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AJ Galante | Average to Savage EP140

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This is the one hundred and fortieth episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring former Danbury Trashers GM AJ Galante. Paul Guarino talked with AJ Galante discussing the Netflix documentary Untold: Crime & Penalties featuring his team the Danbury Trashers, getting a Trashers jersey to Drake, and his boxing gym Champs Boxing Club in Danbury, Connecticut. 

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This podcast interview with AJ Galante was originally recorded on September 16, 2021

...this is the average to Savage podcast with paul Guerrino. Everyone in anyone athletes celebs and much more. Today's episode is brought to you by b usr dot com. You know, everyone always asks me where they should bet and now I got a solution for them. The U. S. R. Dot com slash paul. You deposit $100, they'll match your $100 in free bets. So you basically get $200 Go check it out be USr dot com slash paul. So if everybody, I'm back for another episode of the Average Savage podcast, our special guest today is a J galanti A J How's it going? Good paul. Thanks for having me bro. I appreciate you coming on. Uh Yeah yeah I know. So you've been doing so let's just go into it. I know uh so a little background so for the listeners that don't know the documentary, many doc, whatever you want to call it untold stories, penalties and crimes, crimes and penalties, Danbury Trash Ear's you were the GM at 17 um how much are you sick of doing interviews yet? Hey, you know what man? It's it's it's such an incredible story as I'm learning to appreciate it more and more as I've gotten older. You know what I mean? So it's one of those things where I could talk about it all day in a weird way not because not because it's like an ego thing just because it's just um I'm just so humbled how many people are just so interested in in the story itself. Yeah. Yeah for sure. Like I I knew about it, but I didn't know like the full details about, like I'm 29. So back then I was like what? I don't know really young. So yeah, I knew about the whole story and things like that, so it was dope to actually see it and just being from Connecticut is dope to see like, you know, put Connecticut on the map and things like that. Um and then yeah, you're going to the interviews that you've been on. I know you've been on big ones, like you just were on the bar stool one, you're on dan Lebatard, you're on Pat Mcafee show what's happened like just to be on like national shows,...

...you know man, it's, it's um treat, look, I'd be lying if I say it was, it's not a cool experience, it's definitely a cool experience, but you know what man I mean, talking to you is just as much of a thrill to me, you know, I I tried to always always raised that way to treat everybody equally and you know, there are some people with bigger stature or whatever, but you know what, it's, it's uh it's just humbling, you know that anyone is so interested in in the, in the dock and the story and the and the team. Yeah, for sure. What, and then like when did netflix, like first reach out to you about it. So the way Brothers Mclean and Chapman Way are the producers of the whole series for netflix, the untold series. Mclean emailed me, I want to say it was like Around Thanksgiving time in 2018 actually and it's crazy to think how different the world was back then. But they reached out to me and uh honestly man, I've been, I've been so tired of talking about the trash is up until that point, you know, I mean it was kind of like, oh God, like what is this guy talking about? And he kept hounding me and I kind of was putting them off, putting him off. He finally, I don't know how he got my um, he got my phone number and he called me and I listened to him and he pitched the whole series and he, you know, explained, you know how he's got mouths and you know, Caitlyn Jenner, you know, all the other episodes, like we really were really excited about adding the trash is to the mix and I thought he was insane because I'm like how are we going to like, how are we gonna like be an asset to a series when it has such big stories already, you know involved And he's like, no, no, no, trust me, we're gonna make this, this is gonna be crazy, I'm telling you so we molded over me and my father spoke about it and um you know, we, we were, we were on the fence at first, but you know, we said, you know what we, since he's been home, we haven't really sat and talked about it together and kind of done a collaborative, you know, collaborative effort together. So he's like, let's just, you know, we decided we're just gonna do it like, you know,...

...let's, we thought put this story to bed and it's kind of like been, it's kind of been like a fricking resurgence now. It's it's it's it's insanity. Yeah, Yeah, for sure. Yeah. What, what kind of response have you got to know? You had like a grand premier at the, it was at the arena, right? Yeah, I was at the ice arena where we played and you know, that was another thing, that was another thing, I mean it was a Tuesday night, you know, school was just starting, you know, it was kind of a cool thing at first we're like, yeah, we're gonna do the premier, it's gonna be dope about. And then you start remembering like, hey, we're not the trash is aren't coming back for a game. So it's like how many people actually gonna come? You know? And it's, it's like as we got closer, I mean we weren't gonna pull the plug on it, you know that far? But I'm like, oh man, this is, It's gonna be tough, you know? And the producers from Netflix, we're coming down and I'm like, Oh God, I was like that's gonna be like 20 people that show up, you know what I mean? So you know it was dude it was nerve wracking man and dude like 700 people showed up I mean on a Tuesday night to watch a netflix documentary, they could watch in the company of their own home or something. It was you know, super humbling man. The whole experience that I just keep using the word humble and like it's just uh it's unreal to see how much the team has impacted people, especially locally, you know, here in Danbury Connecticut as a whole and now it's like it's touched people from all over the world which is it's crazy to make it really, it really is. Yeah, for sure. What about like when you watch it like the first time did you get to watch it before it came out, nope. And that's the thing, a lot of people. Yeah, so you talk about like, like no we weren't, we contractually weren't able to see it you know, first you know, so it didn't hit me this whole experience didn't hit me until the individual trailer came out for treasures and I was just like oh my God this is...

...actually happening, you know? And then it was like they debuted the trailer like five days before the doc dropped I think from that point forward it was like you know christmas eve like you go to bed and you can't sleep, you're like you just want to wake up and let it just be there, you know what I mean? And that's, it was like nerve wracking bro. I was like as we got closer, I'm like, oh God, what's going to be on this thing, you know? And look, I've gotten really? I got super close and super tight with the producers. Um you know, they're younger than me, obviously actually you're 20 what you said 6, 20 nine. Yeah, so one of the brothers is 29, the other one I think is a year to younger. So you know, we've gotten really close and they're like, no, no, no, you're gonna like it, trust me, I'm telling you're gonna like it and uh it was just nerve wracking because you just don't know what's going to be, you know, they could just be playing me and all of a sudden they have us looking really, I mean, insane. But overall I got to tell you man, I was I was beyond um happy with how it came out. I mean, the production was insane. Uh you know the visuals, the audio, I mean, it was like super cinematic and I, I don't know what I was expecting, but I definitely wasn't expecting that. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's definitely hard to capture like a good documentary and I like I already watched like three out of the five so far, I'm probably gonna watch the other two and they all been like pretty, they all been like well put together and like, even though like, for example, like the malice in the Palace of course, like I knew about it and stuff like that, but you know, more details of everything always. So that was like, cool to see. Um did you watch the Cristi marin one? Oh yeah, I mean, I've watched them all and that's that, that's what made me nervous is we were number four of the five. Each one seemed to get better each week and I'm like, oh God, don't let the tractors be like a flop, you know what I mean? Because it was like every single episode was really good and each week it seemed to get better and better. And I was just like, I was so nervous. I'm like, oh God, I wish we would have just been first. You know what I mean? And...

...uh, they set the bar high and thankfully, you know, the reception has been pretty good with, with ours, so hopefully it'll just keep going. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Um, and then just going back when you were 17 and your dad names you as the GM and president of the team. Um, like, I know I watched like other interviews and things like that and you're still in high school and then you go to college, but my question is why, why did you even go to college? My mother? You know, my, my mom's like, you're going to college and that that's, that's that's it, you know, I mean, you know, even without the hockey team, I mean, I I just I was just going to go work for my dad anyway, you know what I mean? So it was kind of, I agree, it's kind of like why, you know, and uh but no, she's like, no, you're going to college and you're gonna get your degree and you know, you gotta do what mom says. Yeah, for sure. And then how was that? Just like balancing like one when you're in high school then you were in college, like with the team and doing school work really hard man. I mean, it was the adjustment was, it was tough. I mean, you know, you're bouncing around, I mean, you know, college alone is hard, especially the first year you're kind of finding your bearings. I was I was deworming there too. Um you know, where I was was only like 45 minutes from us, so it wasn't too far away. But you know, it's like I had, I had a girlfriend at the time that was home, so you know, you're balancing your social life, you're balancing school now, you got this whole thing, it was tough, but you know, we we um we had a good team around us, you know, and it didn't all fall on me or my father, we had a good team and uh, you know, I get a lot of credit and I appreciate it. But we, we definitely was a team effort. Yeah, yeah, I think a lot of people don't realize, I mean in the doctor, you guys obviously made the championship, but you guys are like actually good and like, so did like anybody ever hit you up after like two to hire you? Like NHL wise or like any other leaks, You know, it's, it's so weird you say that...

...because so many people have commented and said that, oh, agent should be in league now or something. I don't know man, I just, I don't know one ever reached out. I don't think I was going to get a call from the NHL that's for sure. But you know, I mean, it was one of those things where, when, when the team was gone, it was like, I was telling people, I wanted nothing, nothing to do with hockey, you know, after we lost the team, it wasn't the sports fall, it was just, I didn't want to be around. It was like PTSD, you know what I mean? It was like, we had this run and as quickly as we got up there, it was just just flamed out and no, I mean, I never, I just figured that was it. You know, I was just like, that's it, you know, we peaked and that was it. Yeah, for sure that one of the funniest parts of the doc was just like the wrestlers coming to your birthday party just like being huge and you guys are just being like small. It was just funny. Um, and I know they weren't like what they are today like now looking back at it, isn't it? Is it like crazy to you? Like how, how big they became. Listen, we have some good luck rub on some of these guys. The only restaurants I've ever met on that capacity for whatever the reason like within a year after Dave blow up beyond it. I mean the rock wasn't even the rock, I mean tripling all those guys and china that came to my birthday. They were literally like, they were big but they weren't like what they became like eight months later and beyond and um, even john cena when he came to the game actually posted about john cena today on the trashes account when he came, he was you know, big wrestler. But it was like after that he just exploded. And I like to pretend like it was all because of us obviously. But no man, I mean it's, it's to this day when I see the rock on tv every other commercial, I'm just like, that's so weird and my mom says it all the time. Every time she sees him, he was in our backyard and I'm like, I know it's so it's so, it's so crazy and they just, they became larger than life. No pun...

...intended. They just, they just blew up. Yeah definitely has has a rock reach out, has he seen the doctor? No I don't I have no idea. I'm open the season because you'll probably die laughing. I mean you know Lord knows if he'll ever see it. But you know I have a feeling Triple H. Might have seen it. I hope he had and uh you know I mean he lives right there. He lives right around the block. Exactly. So I'm trying to get I'm trying to get my uh my my W. W. Debut one day just I just wanted one and done. That's it. Yeah that'd be cool. I just saw like yeah they just had like trae young on just like trying to randomly in the garden. But that's that's what I want. I want to be a pro. Like I want to come out. My dream. My dream obviously was you know that was my first love. My dream was to obviously be arrested. Seriously I really thought I was gonna be a pro wrestler. That was that was it. And uh I'm a little older now. I'm not, I'm not a big guy so I would love to be a bad manager. Like a bad guys manager come now stir it up. That's what trading did last week is exactly the moment I want that's it. I just want an asshole chant and go on my way at this point could happen like you're blowing up everyone Dude. All I really want from this. I I told people, the only thing I really want to come out of this netflix thing is to bring more attention to, you know, uh the boxers I deal with and my gym and trying to build something special here for these guys. But the main thing I want, especially as I just want my W. W. Moment man, that's it. If I get somehow got big, if this dog blew up big enough where they thought they could bring me in for a little heat. My life is I don't I wouldn't have to work again. That that would be it for me. I was everything I needed and telling, I'm guaranteeing you that people at W. V. Definitely watch it. They had to uh I'm going to keep pushing it, I'm going to keep putting it for sure. And then again uh blew up, you tell me the drake story, how he got your Jersey...

...man. You talk about surreal. I mean I'm sitting exactly where I'm at now in my my house. And uh So it was the day after the documentary premiered. So it was Wednesday. I want to save September one Wednesday. And I noticed he started following me on, you know him or someone who's handling the phone from ended up following me on instagram and I was like that's weird. And then he ended up following Nigeria. I was like what? That now that's really weird. So I kind of left it alone, whatever I was busy doing whatever, and then finally like it just was bugging me, so I d. M them off the trash er one, and I'm just like, hey man, thanks for the follow, you know, that was it. And um you know, he responded and I was just like this camp, there's no way this is uh there's no way this is really him. Long story short, we end up on a, you know, video call and you know, his face pops up and I'm just like holy shit, it was it was so weird, like It didn't hit me to like after I was just like you know, we we talked for like 15 minutes or so and super humble guy. I mean, I can't even tell you, like super humble was telling me how we watched the documentary, he really enjoyed it. Um and I was just like this is this is insane, you know what I mean? So then he told me he's like, hey man, you know, I got this album and I live under a rock now, so I didn't even know he had an album coming out. So he uh he's like yeah I got this album coming out, I leave for Houston or text wherever he was going, like he's like can you get me something tomorrow? I'm like Damn, I mean we haven't played a game in 15, 16 year, I was like I don't have jerseys. Just, you know, contrary to believe people think I have like a war chest of jerseys over here and everyone's hitting your jersey. I'm like, I don't have him. So he's like, and what to make it worse was, he literally said like, I want the one with your name on it, if you have it. And I'm like, oh...

...man, I was like, I don't, I don't have the, and I didn't play, you know what I mean? But you know, sometimes something is in front of you every day. You don't even remember it's there. And I remember, I'm like, oh man, I got my jersey, um, the trash of prototype jersey, the first one they ever made um framed in my office at the gym. So I'm like, screw it, I went in there, I broke the frame, I was like, fuck it. And I got it out of there. And it was funny because it was big because back then, you know, I would think so big. Obviously we all did deep down, but it was a big jersey and I'm like, you know, it takes a big guy, but he's not that big. I'm like, oh man, it was like, he probably won't even wear this because it's pretty big. So I had a guy, I know and a buddy of mine and he was willing to drive it up to Buffalo, There's a casino up in Buffalo. And he ended up sending someone from Canada, which you know, right over the border there, like an hour and a half or so. Guy gave him the jersey, I figured, you know, maybe he just wanted it or he wanted to take a picture and send it to me. And then dude, saturday, that saturday morning, you know whenever his album dropped or whatever. I mean my phone at like 23 in the morning, it started like lighting up like, like I can't even explain it. And the first thing I thought is something happened, you know, something that early in the morning. I'm like, oh God, don't tell me, you know, first thing I think about is, you know, someone pass away. There's something happened. There was messages coming into my phone so fast. Seriously? No exaggeration. I know this sounds like dramatic but dude, I couldn't even operate the phone because it was like, I was trying to press like the, the text icon to like see, but I couldn't because there was so many things coming in. I literally, I just put the phone, I'm like, I don't know what's going on. I thought there was a glitch or something. Like I literally can't operate the phone sure enough I was able and then all of a sudden I just started, people started sending screenshots and tagging me with him with him and he posted it 23 times. I was like, this is crazy man. I was like,...

...this is insane. And uh it was like one of the most surreal moments I ever saw him in my life honestly. And uh it was a gift and a curse because then these orders started coming in and things I don't even have ready. And it's just like, you know now it's like I've become like ups over here, I'm trying to figure out shipping and like how to ship international. So we're gonna have thankfully we're going to make an announcement tomorrow but we're going to have a jersey pre sale next week and just start, you know, the vendors are like, dude, we, you know, we can't keep up with this right now. It's like, you know, hockey jerseys are hard to, you know, uh, manufacturer with the stitching and the tackle twill. So we're working on it. But it's it's it's it was a gift and a curse because man, people just, they don't let up man, they want their jersey like now. And I'm like, well gotta wait a little bit. I'm figuring it out. Yeah, yeah, for sure. How can you tell me like how many shirts you guys sold honestly since the documentary dropped? Probably probably just t shirts just t shirts. Oh, probably pushing 1000 at this point. Like probably 1000 t shirts. And you know, and honestly I stopped even advertising that we have merchandise because we can't keep up with it right now. Like I literally have to like hire people right now to help me with this because it's with everything else going on. Like I don't have time to like didn't put these in, you know, so we're working with different vendors, we're gonna start simplifying it, but had I had any more prep time for this, it would have been a lot smoother. But you know, sometimes when the opportunity comes, you just gotta, you just gotta pounce on it. Yeah, definitely. What, like for the jerseys, like, are you gonna, well, are you coming out with just the black ones, the blue ones or what colors were going to give them all? I mean, we're going to start literally, people are literally because of him asking for the 17 Galanti Jerseys, which is, it seems to me, you know, it's like, it's like, I'm like, dude, I...

...wasn't a player, you know what I mean? And it's like, but people are literally asking for that one specifically. So we're gonna start off with a pre sale on that one. And in the meantime we're also going to start working on, you know, the other jerseys are away white ones, The alternate blues. We had a couple of specialty ones that we played. You know, we had like a caMA one that people wanted a ST Patrick's day one. Um and what we might come up with some exclusive, like limited, we might collab with other brands maybe do like a limited. Well listen, I, I kinda I kind of like planted the seed there, so maybe maybe in the future but you know uh you know like I know people want the Wingfield jerseys who played for us so we're gonna have like customer options if people want their number of names on it. So we're working it. But literally it's like it happened so fast and I really had no expectation of it being being like this at this point. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I don't know, I I checked on Ebay, there's a brad Winfield jersey on their guess how much they're trying to sell it for five grand. Yeah, 5000 there by now for 7000. Please don't buy that, please just wait a few more weeks or something. Like don't do that. People get themselves jammed up please be and he would be pissed if he knew someone paid that much for, for that, you know what I mean? But hey, you know what, you know what, listen, you know, there's people, you know sometimes you don't know where you're sitting on gold. I mean a lot of people bought those jerseys back then and uh you know what, sometimes you're sitting on, you know, you know one day it's just sitting in your closet the next day, it's worth five grand. I mean it's crazy how fast things are nowadays. It's insane. Yeah, I think, I mean, I think your jersey is basically gonna become like the whalers one like that. So that's like one of the most uh like famous ones now. Like everyone has, it's so ridiculous. I'm like, I didn't even play, you know what I mean? But I...

...think people like it because the logos dope. I think that's the thing too. Like the logo is crazy. I mean it's it's it's insane. It's just um it's gonna be interesting, but it's cool. Like how, how long like, Like you would, if you saw it today, like you wouldn't think that was made in 2004. Yeah, I think that's what it is too. It's like, it looks like still, it looks modern. Well, I tell you a story that not a lot of people have heard before, how that logo came about to be honest with you. Actually, there's not many people who know, I don't think I've told this story to pass podcast. I've done was so, believe it or not when we came up with the team, you know, my dad came up with the name trash Urz. I hated it at first. I'm like, oh, that's a stupid thing. I didn't like it. You know what I mean? I just, I don't know why. I just didn't like it at first, but you know, he's the boss. So that that's what I was gonna be trash is so, You know, again, it was 2004. It's not like you can go on logos dot com and have like a dope logo made within a day or something like that, so we didn't, you know what I mean? We, he ended up like we had this corny logo to start like it was like there was no trash, it was like literally just spelled out trash is it was a horrible logo and it just made me hate the name even more. So before we go to a press conference to announce the team on April Fool's day of 04, you know, we're getting ready to go, we're in my dad's office on White Street, we're going to head to the rank and uh you know, I'm just thinking to myself, man, I hate this logo, I hate the name is bad, you know, I was just like this is gonna be horrible All of a sudden someone brings in a piece of paper or two pieces of paper. one was a letter and one was like drawing. So the letter, this guy, his name is Dominic Alessandro. He lives in Danbury but he owns a believe it's a marketing firm in the city. This guy I heard about you know...

...us doing the team and on his way to the city on the train from Danbury, he sketched out the scrappy logo, like the logo, you see now he sketched that out on the train and he wrote us a letter. Like I'd love to work with you guys, I'd like to present this as a logo. Had we left 15 minutes earlier and we never saw that facts or something went wrong. We would have never had this iconic logo at this point. We would have had this horrible, but when I saw this logo, this like sketch of the trash can, I was like, oh, this is it man. I was like this. Now, I like the name, this is this is um, Now I now I see it, you know? But it's crazy because I'm telling you if we would have went to that if we would have left like 10 minutes earlier and never got that facts and we unveiled the logo. I know my dad, we would have never went back and changed it then. You know what I mean? So you talk about by the skin of our ass. I mean thankfully that guy got us at facts. I mean back when people facts things, you know, I mean, it's uh crazy. But he, he saved us because if we would have went out with that logo, it would have been, it just, it was, it wasn't good. Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. I actually, I actually was randomly strolling through tick tock and I saw the guy, I don't know what his name was, but I saw the guy that created it. Yes. Yeah. He, I mean he did, he did an amazing job and I believe I believe he's created all the logos for all the hockey teams after, you know, after us, You know? Um I know, I'm pretty sure he did the hat tricks one, the current team, but I mean he and his, he and his team do a tremendous job. Yeah, for sure. And then just going into boxing. Uh, I think you might know him in the boxing world too. So I've been following you. Um and um, so was it a combination of the hockey plus the wrestling and then that's how you got into the boxing. Yeah, Dude, honestly, the same thing with the same thing, like it was with the trash I got into boxing like total fluke. I mean, literally it was, I mean, it's like a two hour long story how it happened, but it just happened. Next thing I knew...

I woke up, I was in the boxing industry. I mean, I wasn't a boxing fan growing up. I mean, the only thing I know about boxing was like mike Tyson like everyone else in the world, but I didn't know anything, nothing. Like I don't, I couldn't even, I couldn't even tell you people, you know what I mean? So, you know, I just, I took a leap of faith, man, You know, I was just like, you know what, when we lost the team, I felt such a void. You know, I just something was missing and I don't know, it was something about getting involved with boxing. First of all, boxing so crazy that someone like me shouldn't have been able to get into boxing, you know what I'm trying to say, like boxing so insane that they let anyone in the sport you pay your license fee and you're in. So I was like, the fact that I can just get into professional boxing on like a day's notice basically is insane, but I'm like, well maybe we have something here and you know, I just started I have a very obsessive personality, so when I start getting into something, I get into it. So, you know, it's kind of like I'm gonna help this fighter out for a few fights and then just whatever just into now, you know, I want to work with this fighter and I want to work with that fighter now. It's like, I want to throw my own show now, let's let's open a gym in Denver, So I've been in boxing now 10.5 years, I mean, I don't know how I still have any sort of hair, but it's just a crazy, crazy world, but you know what, you got to be, you got to be a little off to be in it. So, I mean, I mean, I think a lot of stuff with the trash is actually prepared me in a certain way for certain things in this industry. Yeah, for sure. I mean, yeah, you're just being thrown in at 17, like you probably learned way more stuff than what you were going to learn at college or anything else and then I know, you know, I tell people, I tell the kids that at the gym all the time I deal with so many young kids. I said, listen, I said, if you have the opportunity to go to college, if it's something that you like, I said, look, if you want to be a doctor, be a lawyer, I mean obviously got to go to college. I mean I tell kids there's no...

...getting around it, you know? So I tell kids if you're in a position where you can go to college and you're not going to be in debt for 100 years after, you know what I'm saying? You got to explore your options. I said, but I tell these kids all the time, I'm like, look, go to a trade school, learn a trade. I said, um, the best experiences hands on. And I tell people like Whether people want to say I was, I was spoiled, I was given this opportunity, this standard, 3rd look at the end of the day, I took an opportunity and you got to run with it and that's how you learn, you learn, you get thrown in the deep end and it's sink or swim, that's all there is to it. I mean it doesn't matter how much money you have, it doesn't matter if look when you're in the deep end, if you can't paddle, if you can't doggy paddle or something, you're, you're, you're out of there, man. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And I know you got Mike marshall fighting on the Tyson Fury wilder card, uh, how did that come about in? Like, how excited are you for that? I'm so happy for him. Mike. I knew Mike, I was managing a kid out of Brooklyn frank Galarza back in 2013 for like, God, we were together like almost 10 fights and uh, you know, frank used to train out of start city boxing in Brooklyn and I would go there all the time to watch them train, you know, see the guys and Mike used to be in there as an amateur, like £180 soaking wet and he was in the golden, I remember he was in the new york golden gloves. Um, you know, you walked in that gym, you knew Mike was there, you know what I mean? And not gym in Brooklyn, I mean, you, you to get noticed, you have to, you know, you gotta put yourself out there. So I always saw Mike and he was living out there obviously and always cool to me, always, you know, I really liked him and then, you know, that was kind of it, you know what I mean? So next thing I knew like flashback, like 4.5, 5 years ago, I'm in the office at my gym and mike marshall walks in, I'm like, what the hell are you doing here? He's like, I met, you know, I have a girl down here now, I moved to, do you know, I moved to Denver, I'm like, you moved to Denver? I was like, that's super random. So uh he started training, you know, he started training here, um he took a...

...fight on a very short notice he lost, I think it was back in 2016 or something, bad loss, bad knockout, But I gotta tell you something, man. I mean, if that was, if that was most fighters, they probably would never lace up gloves again the way he lost, it was a tough fight and he took a four year hiatus, but he was still in the gym, he was still trying, he's still working. And We got an opportunity, last November, um last November of 2020, we got an opportunity to fight up in New Hampshire uh big promoter, chris try it up there and uh he won the fight, he four years off, he wins the new England heavyweight title, it's insane. They brought him in because I know they thought he was on the couch, so they were like, just bring him, you know, and he's not a natural heavyweight. So then I'm like, hey mike, you know, you know, he just didn't want to keep going, you know, fought again, one fought again one again, now we're sitting here, I mean we're gonna be on one of the biggest cards of of the year in october in Vegas. I'm very tough fight but he's a lot laser locked in. I mean this is like this is a super bowl for him so he'll be ready. You know he's gonna go down swinging and I think we're gonna have a I think we're gonna have a good night the way he's looking right now and um our opponents tough but mike mike mike mike give this guy some problems. I really believe that. That's why we we agreed to do it and hopefully we can put on a show. Yeah, definitely. All right. A j. Well I appreciate you coming on. And could you let the listeners know where they can follow you on social media? Yeah, on instagram you can follow me the I got the DB trash ear's um that's the trash is and then just champs Danbury, that's that's the gym. Um I don't have an individual one but yeah and on twitter you can follow at dB treasures. Alright then appreciate it in the best of luck. I mean I can't, I'm ordering one of the jerseys too and when they let me know I'll take care of you man, don't worry about it, we'll figure it out. I appreciate it, appreciate your paul. Thank you man. This episode has been brought to you by...

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