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Amobi Okugo | Average to Savage EP11

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This is the eleven episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring Amobi Okugo. Paul Guarino talked with Amobi Okugo discussing his soccer career, entrepreneurship, and his future. Follow Amobi Okugo www.instagram.com/AmobiSays twitter.com/AmobiSays www.facebook.com/AmobiSays Fueled by Brotein Candy www.broteincandy.com/

This is the average to savage podcast with Paul Greno. Everyone in anyone athletes suets and much more so. If everybody back for another episode of average savage podcasts got a special guests, Amobia Cugo, themobi. What's good, man, thank you for having me. Yeah, no problem. So let's just jump right into it and tell tell the audience a little about yourself. Yes, I'm mob Cugo, twenty seven years old, born in Hayward, first generation that you're in American, the oldest of four siblings, got two brothers and a sister. Born in Hayward, raises Sacramento. Professional Soccer Player, currently a free agent and, I guess, entrepreneur now as well. That's a little bit about myself. I know we'll dive into more as the PODCAST keeps calling. Yeah, for sure. So, yeah, growing up in California. I know you went to Ucla. So how did you decide to go to UCLA? I travel a lot during my durn my youth, just traveling for soccer. So when I was choosing colleges, my parents basically said I have to stay in California. So it was up to Stanford, UCLA, Santa Clair and cal and ultimately, Ucla, with the closest but far this away at all the school, or the farthest away but still close enough, got got so so they did they sell you on anything, or was just like that's what you that's what you wanted to go. Yeah, you see, like they don't have to do any selling once you get on the campus. They say, once you go to the campus, your decision is usually made. I was fortunate enough to, you know, build go on my official visit and once I went on the campus, once I got to hear more about them. Obviously the education the component and then the student athlete component is top notch. But just being in Westwood and around that, around that, it's just it was a game changer for me and I think I made my verbal commitment like the second I arrived back to Sacra. Metal Gotcha, and I know you only played one season there and then you got dropped to the MLS. Was that like plan that you're going to only play one season? To be honest, it wasn't planned at all. You know, being a first generation that you in American. Both my parents valued education a lot, but it just happened where, you know, I just got a deal. I caneris use and the fact that they are offering to continue to pay for my education with the contract or signed. It was just, you know, you got to do it. You can only play soccer for so long, so might as well get as many years as you can while you can. Yeah, for sure. I'm sure not that many people knew that they're going to pay for your college. Yeah, well, usually well, at this time during with the with the MLS, they were offering a generation to did this contract and the base, the basis of the contract is that it did. This will day to entice kids to leave early, they will re reimburse you for your where your education. So I was able to get...

...reimburse my stipends and play soccer at the same time. So so it was a win win for me and my family. Yeah, for sure. I think, Dad, that probably for more sports, probably easier for people to make the students. Yeah, exactly. I think more and more schools and schools and leads are starting to do it, but it's still not where I feel it needs to be for the most part. Yeah, for sure. So what was it like getting drafted in the first round? That no US honor. You know, it's me drafted to be recognized for your talents. Luckily, my school, Ucla, we had a good year. So you know, when the team does well, everyone, individuals start to shine, and I was fortunate enough with my background being with the youth national teams and stuff like that, that I had some that I had some, I guess, some height for some eyes on me and our team was able to go far and a couple teams showed interest and ultimately Philadelphia picked me in the first round. So it was an honor. I was very grateful, especially because Philadelphia have to put their trust in me as one of their first picks for their new team, because they were expansion team at that time. Yeah, so, yeah, what was that like? Did they were they recruiting you before this, before like a draft you? Did you go into train with them work out? No, not so, because there are a new team, they didn't really have any training before. You know, now, if they like, if they have that on you, they might have you come in like the summer before and see how you like Mesh. But because it was like a new team literally, they showed interest at the combine that barely talk to my agent and when they when the draft came around. They picked me. I didn't really have an idea that they were that interested. I'm actually that I was going somewhere else, but they ultimately picked me and the rest of history. Yeah, for sure. So what was your overall experience like playing in the MLS? I know you played for Philadelphia, Kansas, city, Orlando in Portland. Oh yeah, I mean it's the only soccer league I know. So you're like, I've grown as not only just on the fields will off the field. Has Been a great experience. Some of my best friends have come from, you know, soccer and MLS, and to be able to kind of see it grow as I've grown and LS. I remember two thousand and ten there was only like eighteen teams. Now there's twenty two, twenty three, about to be twenty six teams coming into the League. So just to see that growth, see the stadiums and expansion that's being a part of it, all the foreigners that are coming to play, it's been an amazing experience to be part of that. Obviously I'm a free agent right now, but it's been great to see the growth, not only from a personal level but the league is a whole. I for sure now playing Philadelphia. That was like expansive team, and then you went to Orlando. I think they were in their second year maybe when you started playing for them. So did you, like, have expectation going in? So Orlando was also an expansion team, but the difference between Orlando and Philadelphia was that...

Orlando already had history because they were they came from the lower division. So instead of where Philadelphia was just started from the ground up from Orlando kind of already had a head start. Yeah, that was part of the so, when I said, when I when my contract ran out in Philadelphia, I signed a new contract with Orlando and it was to be part of their first another another expansion team or and that was a great experience too, because the fans in Orlando really love soccer. They really make it part of their community and to be part of that, even though for a short period of time, that was just an amazing experience. Yeah, for sure. So even though you're only twenty seven, you played eight years in Mla last so far. So what else is what's next for you? Soccer was so we'll see. You know, got a couple options both domestically and abroad, and trying to Weig him out the summer window is over at the end of August. So hopefully something comes about. If nothing comes about, I'll probably end up moving forward with my life in my career unless something comes out the blue. But that's kind of my mindset right now. Eight years. It's a lot of years, both the average. Obviously I'd like to get to at least ten and I think that's my goal. That's my benchmark, but we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. So you would be open to play overseas or now? Oh Yeah, I definitely open a play overseas. That may not feel like they have played in mls domestically long enough. would be a perfect time to curse my luck or, you know, try something new. They definitely CEN something. Oh Yeah, be a great experience, I feel like it, especially the fans are over there. Probably compared to her, probably just unbelievable. Yeah, actually really just depends on what league. But you know, it's it's ingrained in the culture over things. They just have a longer history of, you know, having soccer as one of the main sports, whereas soccer here's still like lower in the pecking order, even those growing every day. Yeah, for sure. So, so since then you start your own brand of frugal athlete. So how did you come up with that and why did you come up with that? Yeah, so who actually really came about? Kind of randomly? I was watching USC and thousand four thirty broke and after after I watching now, was like really interested to see, you know, they keep talking about all these broke players, to keep talking about players losing all their money. How come there's no players that you know that are showcase, that are doing well with their career when the finances after they retire? So I could do some research. What I can finding were, you know, guys like Magic Johnson, Lebron James, Tom Rady, guys that, like, like we're businesses with the themselves, brands with them themselves, and they really didn't have to worry about their career with the sorry that there to worry about their finances after their career was over because it made so much money, whereas I mean sorry and soccer in America is...

...not at that level. So I couldn't really use them as role models. Yeah, try to talk to talk all my brother, my best friend and just always being interested in business, just decided to kind of started on my own. So started with simple square space blogs and then from there we actually try to build it out and now it's a little bit more organized. We're trying to build out in actual business for me and it's been a it's been a fun process of for yeah, for sure. And let see your reran in the podcast. So what's going to come on? I'm not yeah, we're going to make a cleaner all around. You know, as you continue to try to expand and try to grow business, you know you have time to to, you know, really change things and see where you see where you make mistay, see where you can improve on. So the most important thing is starting and I feel like we did that. Now we have some times, we built some we built some quite a bit of an audience. So now, obviously we hate to take breaks, but with with the reinforcements that we we plan on making, we can kind of, you know, give better, more consistent and more engaging content, because at the end of the day, that's what it was all about. Yeah, for sure. And what is your ultimate goal for a Frugal Athlete? We wanted to be the one stop shop with for at professional athletes and student athletes and the fans that follow these athletes to learn about financial literacy. You know, create a positive atmosphere where you know, athletes are sharing pruiting financial and smart career decisions and just be that platform where you know someone can come on and learn and inspire to be frugal with their with their financial playbook and whether they need a role model through one of our interviews, whether they need some advice by some of our informative research and blogs and stuff like that. We plan to be that that. That's that source. So that database. So we got we got some cool, engaging content coming, both video, audio and, of course, can't forget about their written pieces coming and hopefully we can continue to build out our platform. Yeah, that's awesome. Have have pro athletes been reaching out to you? Yeah, it's going a good amount of pro athletes that I've been able to connect with. Just you in a pro athlete myself and as been a lot of former pro athletes and then current pro athletes. But more formal process that I've reached out, I been like, this is a great thing that you're doing. Keep it up. I love to get involved. So we got two people that we got two people that have kind of rest out in our writing pieces that are current athletes and hopefully we can continue to build that out and create sort of a structure about it where people can kind of do guest blog posts and share their perspective, because everyone's perspectives is a little bit different. Yeah, yeah, for sure, everyone's experiences a little different to example. So let's just jump into some rent random fun...

...questions. So what do you think about the growth of soccer in the United States? It's just scratching the surface, I mean, you see, I mean I think, I don't know. I don't know exact numbers, but I know studies. There's been select studies that show you soccer is one of the most popular sports. I feel like even if you don't play soccer long term, everyone starts off playing you soccer. It's just a sport that everyone can play. All you need is a ball and some gear, whereas other sports you need all these different regulations of things. And now with whether it's football or other sports where you see the head injuries, soccer, soccer is kind of a sport that, all those physical sport is not as dangerous or as time consuming as a baseball or dangerous as football and as exposure in the states continues to grow. With TV as revenue and more games on TV, it's only going to be more prevalent for the younger kids to kind of aspire or have people to aspire to when they're playing on the use soccer and hopefully can translate long term to Ben playing, you know, in high school and then in college and then have aspirations to play pro. For sure. Yeah, I know, especially, like you were just saying before, with the MLS expansions, and I think the Miami team is coming soon and yeah, they're coming soon, nationals coming soon, Cincinnati's coming soon. So these are all different markets that soccer is now, or I want to say now. But I have a bigger, bigger opportunity to reach different markets whereas you know, before I was just like, you know, bigger cities, La New York, where there's already a multi cultural base there, so they obviously know about soccer. But now you have the ability to reach way more people. Yeah, for sure. I'm talking my friends about it and I was saying if we all had enough money, I think the best investment it would be to buy like a sports team, wise to buy like an MLS team. Yeah, whether it's even MLS USL, whichever one. You know, a lot of a lot of people, a lot of investors, are investing in USL because durings that expansion fees aren't as high and you still you're still reaching some markets and their expansion as is just as fast, if not faster, than MLS. So it's only going to continue to expand. And MLS would be another wise investment too, because with the World Cup coming, amount of form players that are coming in Moose League, it's you're just scratching the surface of the potential. Yeah, for sure, moving moving into foreign players and stuff, would you think? What were your thoughts on the World Cup this year? It was amazing, besides the fact that Nigeria didn't getting to go through, not they had it sited for them, but Argentina ended up taking it. So it was a good World Cup. You know a lot of people will worry because us wasn't in it, but this was actually one of...

...the most exciting world cups in a while. So excited to see what happens in the next four, four and a half years and how Qatar kind of tops this one, if sure. Well, Nigeria definitely had the freshest Jersey game. But sure. And do you think us is going to make the next World Cup? Yes, they should, I think. I think that was a wakeup call, the not qualifying, and then the younger generation kind of got a kind of kind of golden generation on our hands. So hopefully, you know, people are ready to perform, for sure. So what is what are you listening to right now? What's on your playlist, music wise or like like audible podcast? Let's go with both. So right now I'm audible. I got good, too, great, and then I just and then side hustle. What else I got and a pound foolish. So those are all been recommendation. So I got use some some credits that I got from my birthday or of those up. So that's on the audible. On a PODCAST, I'm listening to JJ REA podcast. You just had recently had a good episode. It was like a quay. There's a good episode that I got like saved Bill Simmons with Jay Williams and apparently as another one with Don Gil Washington that I was supposed to listen to. And then music rotation. Oh, I really my brother got me on. He's bookie. I've been listening to him a lot lately, and then drink's album obviously came out, so I've been listen to that and I think I'm still playing some missy hustle because his album was fresh. And and try to go with my dad push the tea, because I like, I've always liked that's that's what's currently in the rotation right now. Then we're going to push her to injury. Yeah, yeah, I'm like Switzerland, I man, I go both side. Got Yeah, that's all. I didn't know Jj Reddy kind a podcast. I'll check it out. All these athletes at podcast now. Yeah, we're all really good too. That's the things. Yeah, they got a good setup. So so what other entrepreneurs are you following? Oh, everybody, to be honest, there's a lot of entrepreneurs that I like to follow right now in terms of athlete entrepreneurs. Paul Rabel, he's a really, really good guy. Connected with him a couple times the email and social media, the things he's doing with his whole he's trying to build a little conglomerate. I shouldn't say little, building a conglomeer. He has a media media avenue, Investment Avenue and he has as a own business with this, with this camp center. Also have a charity foundation. So he's a good example that I followed from a far. Who? Well, that would be that. She's the main guy. There's a couple other ones. I'm trying to think see. I think what he's doing. Players are building out different...

...cool things with whether their media companies, and I saw Derek Ross started scholarship thing today for like you, sorry, with for K or something. I don't know if he's doing per year or something like that. Oh, yeah, I mean pretty much. Yeah, I looked up that too before, and his contract, like his boys, are just getting like paid like K, hundred k just to be quote unquote, consultants instead of his own paycheck. You know, is leverage, able to use his leverage to help out, you know, his his closed circle, and that's what it's all about the end of the day. That's what it means to be a fool, was to be honest, Leverager, leverage or work? And how about your people? Yeah, for sure that's a I'm sure that's keeping a motivated to stay on the DUB and the NBA roster. Yeah, you, I know you listen to Geary v Right. Yeah, I listen to him quite a bit. You can't, I can't. I only takes, though, but yeah, and I follow him on Youtube for sure. So what else do you like to do in your free time? To be honest, see, I I'm really close to my family, especially right now since I'm trying back at sacramental hanging out with a family, my girlfriend. Like to do some fun things, whether it's, you know, being out, being outdoors or, you know, have US trying to get my golf game up. So I've been golfing a lot. Yeah, and that's basically. Yeah, I'm a low key guy. Got Your UN's video games or not? esports that really I mean, I'll play people every now man, but I'm not going out of my way to go play people or play video games. I haven't even played the fortnight. My youngest brother player, but I'm not really on it. Yeah, I couldn't really get into it either. I'm really like those type of games. anyways, what are you doing? Numbers, number, it doesn't I mean it makes sense, but like it's just doesn't make sense to me. Like you know, growing up, your parents always like Yo, you gotta get off your video games. Well, yeah, now all of a sudden, like people are making millions of video playing video games exactly. It's like, let me playing, you guess. You really never know, like, like stuff just happens. That wasn't an existence to make money like you're a couple of years ago. Yeah, and I think it's only here to stay. That sports space is only going to grow. That's a good thing about it, for sure, for video game guys. Yeah, I mean it was even. It's even like televised on the ESPN. I saw they were drafting for like the K League, for NBA, going for yeah, it was crazy. Well, they literally had a draft is on like ESPN too, and they were drafting the players for because the teams like own, like the NBA team's own, their own teams. Okay, that's more business on their part, if, if, for sure, and it's pretty dope what they did. They made the logo. They use their logo but like altered it and it looks like cool. Actually, probably, I'm thinking they're probably make like some jerseys, make them like Alternate Jersey and where them there in the season or something cool. Well, appreciate your time...

...coming on and let everybody know where they could find you in a frugal athlete. Okay, yes, so my personal accounts. Twitter, instagram, facebook, all that. Amobi says, Amobi says for lackleet. Twitter, instagram. What else are we all got? Twitter, instagram. You for Laslete, and then check us out on our website, wwwa for Glascom podcast, wherever you get your podcast while on spotify, apple anchor Google play, all that for glaste podcast. And that's basically it, Ma'am DM's are open for serious inquiries only. So I'm very open and yeah, that's it. Yeah, for sure. I appreciate you coming on. No, thank for having me stay in touch. So I appreciate your having me. I know your busy guys well and look forward to here. It's alive. Yeah, for sure.

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