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Anthony Hamilton | Average To Savage EP129

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This is the one hundred and twenty-ninth episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring Grammy award-winning artist Anthony Hamilton. Paul Guarino talked with Anthony Hamilton discussing his amazing music career, old school vs new school, and his love for MMA.

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This podcast interview with Anthony Hamilton was originally recorded on May 25, 2021

This is the Average to Savage podcast with paul Guerrino. Everyone in anyone athletes celebs and much more. What's up everybody? I'm back for another episode of the average Savage podcast. Our special guest today is Anthony Hamilton, Anthony. How's it going going? Good man. Just getting in uh picking up the kids carpooling, real sexy R. And B. Stuff. Right, I appreciate you coming on. Uh let's just go back in time a little bit. Like how did you first start getting involved in music? You know what? Uh it man, it started like way before I was even uh here I think before I got into my mom's belly, right, God was like you are music, you will sing and you know, and I never, it's not one day, one moment when I didn't think about music and didn't think about that being something uh that I love to do. So it goes way back for sure. Yeah. So I know you you grew up in north Carolina um and then you were singing there and then um so what happened I saw, I read something that, um, somebody like kind of recruited you to, to move out to new york. Yeah, a guy by the name of Mark Sparks. Uh he had done a lot of stuff with the music industry, He's from charlotte, not charlotte north Carolina, but he was from ways borough south Carolina. And so he come and bring tons of people from, from ways, burrow from south Carolina from charlotte and he took a lot of them to new york and a lot of people got deals. He landed songs on, he did shoot for salt and pepper, he did uh, some stuff with grand poobah and a lot of people back in the day. So he got me a deal over uptown M. C A with jimmy, Jenkins and andre have real from uptown M. C A And from there I've been in the industry uh fulfill its since 92, Yeah. And then like when you were like before that like what were you, how are you recording stuff and like how are you putting out? Because I know back in the day I didn't have like you know, Soundcloud and all this stuff now. Well back then man, you know it was you know, you had to beat the streets. Uh 1 1 cassette tape At a time. 1 1 c. d. at a time. Uh just let your listeners find it through word of mouth and coming in contact with people radio was very important as it is now. Um we didn't have as many podcasts as we do now but you know some somewhere were available but but it was a different, it was a different animal back there and which I miss a lot of that. I missed the real grind of station to station. Hand to hand city. The hand money to see that, you know, all that stuff is missed a little bit now it's so cyber, you kind of feel like you're getting robbed. You know what it was like man, where the money? The money ain't just cyber cash app. No man, put it in my hand. I got so many questions from that. But like all right, so now you brought that up like anything, have you thought of anything about like people like purchasing your music and like crypto? Okay. You know, I'm still learning about crypto currency and and all the the different, you know those corn and bit corn and all this stuff And actually before Nipsey passed away, uh he and I want to fly together. It was a flight. I don't know if you saw it online was just when this guy tapped him on the shoulder and told to turn his phone down. I was sitting right next to Nipsey um we were going, I don't know where we're going from and later new yorker from new york from somewhere, I know if something happened and we were out there and he and I happened to be sitting beside each other, so he was putting me on to uh he had met this young guy, it was really great with building apps and stuff and he was talking about those corn and crypto currency and all this stuff was...

...happening. So now that it's here, I'm trying to catch up because I was listening to him, but you know, I probably didn't get exactly what it was, but he tried to see. So now that I know a little bit more about it, I'm more interested in learning more. So I know if I'm getting paid exactly what does it equate to what I'm normal what I'm what I'm used to as opposed to you know moving forward but I'm you know I'm not afraid of it. If I can buy some food with it and take care of my kids I'll be all right. Yeah. It's funny you say that too because like I just searched dodging my phone one day and then I saw my friend texted me about in like 2018 and I was like damn. Like that would have been crazy if you know we invested them and and then it's the same thing with the Bitcoin thing. I don't know if you just saw like the other day it was like the anniversary of this guy, he bought two pizzas I think like 10 years ago but like 10,000 Bitcoins because it was worth nothing then and then now it would be like like a half a mill or something crazy like that worth a half a mil now for two pizzas wow. You know I wish I wish I was that that um savvy with that kind of stuff man when it comes to investments and currency and and the different you know different times to invest. If I had somebody on my team that's sharp. Yeah man I'd be on it but I'm so busy creating music man. You kind of you live in this musical world it's kind of sometimes it's kind of hard to think of it all so that's why your team is so important. Yeah definitely. Well since we're breaking down the business side of things like have you have you made like other investments like besides like in your music? Yeah man I have a few uh stocks and things like that that I my team has purchased. Um and investing in certain accounts that yield me a lot of great interest without a lot of risk. Um And looking forward to to diving into some more stuff real estate um investing in my own tour company had brand called House of Fedora. Um Big bones clothing lines for sister big bones um and just investing in different things that you know that bit my brand as well. Yeah, there was that one of your hats. No this is not one of mine but I purchased it uh a couple years ago. I just felt like putting it on, I hadn't wanted in a man I think you know what put on my hat, what is talking about? It looks kind of a little cowboy and a little uh what you call it presidential uh when you call it, when it when it's time for the voting? Uh Yeah, I know what you're talking about election. Yeah. It looks a little election. Yeah. All right. Let's go back into your music. Her. What was like your breakthrough music moment of like maybe a song or like something that you felt like you made it the breakthrough when I felt like I made it, you know, being signed. The uptown was a dream to me because jodi she was there um mary J. Blige heavy d um follow them. See all these great routes Horace brown. They were they were on this label and I was dreaming of being on this label. So I eventually got signed to them, you know, and things didn't go as playing in my head. Uh But that was a sign for me that that I was doing okay. But when it really, really set in is when I did the song with nappy Roots and it took off, it was huge poor folks...

...and Jadakiss, why those two moments together working hand in hand, people were starting to look at me different and uh it set it up for for Charlene and coming from where I'm from, And once coming from where I'm from, came out and I got nominated for four Grammys and I was like, okay, I'm cooking with real Greece right now. Yeah, sure. How how old were you when you signed that, that record label to the record label? I think I was maybe 22, 22 years old. 23 top. Yeah, that's yeah, that's uh that was young. Um And then you ended up winning a grammy for uh you got you got to love I need um what what was that feeling like? Man to win a grammy? It was it was surreal. Um And to do it without Green Man, it was like I want a grammy, not just myself but for my mother and father Coulson, you know everybody who loved Al Green who grew up on Al Green, that was for the hood, That was for my neighborhood, all the people who had the windows open playing Al Green loud with the cookout grill in the front yard. That that grammy was fun for all of them. And uh you know, to be alongside of James boys and Questlove and producing and writing this song. Um it meant a lot to me as well. For sure. Yeah, so I know like, like you've been mentioned, you collab but like so many great people and you you did crossovers and wrap and things like that. Um Is there anybody that you really want to work with that you haven't worked with yet? Anybody I want to work with who I haven't worked with yet, you know, uh drink and I, we went in the studio at one time and we never really, we never got anything that night. We hung out, went to see the Angelo and had a great time, but we never got the song yet. And he hit me not so so long ago to deliver some pain. He's like, I need that pain only you can deliver. Uh it's back when the pandemic was kind of ending coming out of it. So to get back in with him would be great, Kanye West would be amazing. Um Chance, I performed a chance but I haven't gotten in the studio with it. Those are some amazing people that I like to get in with. I've done some country with josh. Turner, john rich from Bacon Rich. But I'd like to do more country. Okay. Darius Rucker, it would be great Garth brooks for sure. Yeah, I think that if you do one with drake will definitely be a hit man. Well we'll go, we'll do something silver tired. You want crazy. I don't know how I know about you. How how how did you find out? So I'm a huge nelly fan. So that's how yeah, that's how I know about you because you're on nelly song. Nobody knows. Yeah, no, there'll be trouble. Long way, nobody told me nothing, Nothing, nothing. I love that song too. That was a great, That was that was a good song, I really like that one. Yeah man, how did you gotta tell me? How did you link up with nellie? You know man? I had, I ran into nearly a few times and with with uh Jermaine Dupri and just being out amongst people and he was like he was a fan man and wanted me on the record and he went through my people, they contacted me and he asked me would I be a part of it and I was like yeah man That's nearly 10,000 10 million albums plus that's why it's funny to have a great sound man. Uh You know ST louis, it's a place I visited a lot, tour there a lot. And it's always been a place where I felt well received and they got it, they were kind of...

...country, you know what I mean? Midwest country. So it made it was a good fit. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. It's funny because like everyone always makes fun of me when I say that's my favorite artist and I'm like one of the he's only like I think one of Maybe like five rappers that has the diamond uh album. Hands down and he had great music and some hits. It's getting hot in here man, you hear that right now you go crazy to stop taking your clothes off, you know? Um Down down baby boom, ready to let it go, give me a remake man, he got some joints man, he got a few. Um but I like his music, I like nelly, I like when he did the country stuff, so for sure, going back to you now, I know you're working on a new album, so can you tell us a little bit about that, the new album scheduled to be out in august um man, it's going really well. I got some features on there that are amazing. Me and Rick Ross got one that it goes back and tap into the energy of uh my life. What's the poor one? One with mary J. Blige in my life, That whole kind of vibe that she had, and it's a Bangor uh working on a duet of a classic. Um I may have, I did a song with john Legend, I'm trying to see if I'm gonna put it on this record or the next one, because it's such a big record and then, you know, I'm waiting to see, but I have a few songs, man produced by 9th wonder. We have some great ones, Jermaine Dupri as the first single that's out Now, You Made a Fool of Me, And we have about four more to put on this album, and we went in it straight R and B. No Chaser, No, trying to be new, no trying to be current straight great songs singing my ass off uh and making people feel something again. Um So I'm excited about it. I had a song called White Hennessy that's a Bangor. Um you know I worked with J. Deal and and um all in those guys 1500 and nothing big dog, I got some real heavy hitters who do real good music on this album, kelvin Wooten and uh yeah some singing on that. I got a little bit of backgrounds to think the Hamiltons maybe I'm one or two, I'm singing background J. K. Jack King. So I'm excited about the collaboration of different voices coming to create this whole new old moment again. So yeah. Yeah for sure. What about what is the most change about like R. And B. Back then in R. And B. Now I think R. And B. Back then was more live, it was more live instrumentation. Guitar, drums, keys and uh more melody um More passionate in the lyrics. Um Back then they used to date the girl before they got in bed now they get straight to it. You know it was like oh hello. Don't you want to don't you wanna know your name first? Don't you? Don't you want to you wanna make sure she's all right? Ask you a few questions. She might be crazy. Um I think now you know there's some good music now I listen to a lot of it. That's some amazing cats. Uh Gideon, give me your giddy yard. I think I like what he's uh what he's doing her daniel caesar. He's good. Um Snow Allegra, jasmine. Sullivan is one of my favorites uh colleague B. J. Chicago kid. Um I love what he does, luke James, Rowe James, all the James. So you had some really cool cats out doing some...

...good music, but I just think the passion is missing and sonically things now are more repetitive. Yeah, uh less words, more melody and more uh, a lot of auto tune back then. You had to sing, you have to sing it back then whatever, whatever effect you need it, you better create it with your voice and with your pen. And now I think a lot of the music now they get away with using things that are, is creative, but it takes away from the true essence of uh, the troops down home. Homegrown musical ability. Yeah, for sure. What like what keeps you motivated, I know you've been around for a long time in the music industry. What keeps me motivated, What keeps me motivated as knowing that I was chosen to do it and it's been working for me and it's been making a difference in a lot of people's lives and my passion for music. It's just as big as my passion for people. So being able to do the, Do the two together and and touch and make a difference. Um spends a lot. I've killed a lot of people and I've mended some relationships. Um probably tore down a few, but but for the most part, I think my music has done a lot of good manages traveled the world for me and allowed me to see things that wouldn't have had a chance to see had I not been a singer songwriter. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And what what what inspires you and and what advice would you give to like a young artist coming up? What inspires me? I think life man, I wake up every day and that's something, there's something to talk about, There's something to sing about, there's something to be grateful for, There's something to be pissed off about. Um and that's something that you just don't quite understand and just being in the company of any of that. There is something that's always something to be, to be said, um, questions to be answered. So I think life itself, it's what motivates me and I'll let people know if you ever wanted to be a single songwriter, musician, producer, you know, be passionate about saying something, uh the same thing, saying it your way and making it feel special. Even if it's the same thing that's been said over and over again. Find a way to make, I love you feel like it's the, the most amazing thing you've ever heard learn the business, uh, create your own sound. Have a sound that stands out. A lot of times people say, I know it's you. Even with my mask on, I've heard people say no hat, no hat at all. I've tried it a lot of times without a hat. Okay people, I can slide about a little bit. Um Well people, I think now people are paying so much attention to who's got on the vast group. Doesn't. If I say anything it was it, what's your name? They know it's my voice and that's distinctive and so you want to have a distinctive sound, something that people feel like I can only get this from this guy um and make it work for you. Uh and don't stop. I like that. Are you ready for some fun questions? Let's go. What was, what was the biggest purchase you made? And what was like the worst purchase you made ever? The biggest purchase I've ever made? What's my house, my house, uh Under $1 million. I wasn't gonna spend $1 million dollars on the house. My first house. Uh and it's probably it's worth well over that now. Um which makes me want to sell it and I think I made uh all right now, yeah, it's hot...

...right now. I was like, I was selling and just go rent something right quick, just stack it up. The worst purchase I've ever made, wow. Mm The worst most purchased I ever made. All those damn clothes and shoes and stuff I have now it's taking over the house. You know, I can't think of one thing that was really bad that I purchased um because I'm really selective about spending my money on it, right? Maybe a date. Maybe, maybe maybe a date with one date. That sucks real bad. I had to purchase everything that night and purchase purchase and kept purchasing and it probably bit me in the, in the, in the, in the back. I would say I want to say a date some day. I think a lot of guys can relate to that one. Yeah. And women. Um, out of all the songs you ever made, which one is your favorite? Out of all the songs I've ever made, Which one is my favorite, wow. I think give you a chance as a few. There's a few and, and, and they have different times. I think coming from where I'm from, when I just think about the struggling, coming about the mud man and getting it, getting and how I had to get it. I think coming from where I'm from is the best uh theme song. It captures the emotion and the grind and the grit um that it took to get here and the perseverance. I think that song is is My Once Upon a Time that starts the story and then you have, yeah, Charlene is definitely turned my life around. It's a song that when I'm performing it and people are sitting there looking at me, man, I'm like, oh my God, I can't believe it. They love it this much. Um, another song that I did that I really, really loved, wow, Going to have to say it was something with the guerrillas. I liked it a lot. It was taking me outside of my comfort zone. It's called Carnival Taking Me out of my comfort zone and put me in a space where, you know, most people probably wouldn't allow me to to be able to swim. Yeah. Carnival, Carnival's one. Why would Jadakiss? Yeah, that was, that was a big record. That was a huge record. And Lamborghini doors with rick ross and meek mill. I didn't, I didn't even know you were on that one. Yeah, I did. Uh, maybe I did a few songs to rick ross on that particular project. You put them out different times. Yeah. Lamborghini doors. Yes. Yeah, that was, that was me. Are you, are you a sports guy? I do like sports. I played football. I was a tailback in safety and I ran track with 1-10 hurdles. four x 4 relay. I used a long job like how long jump, how long jump the whole highway. Uh, what's your, who's your favorite sports team? Sports team, football, panthers, basketball. The hornets. I'm just a home team player. Yeah man. I used to be a Dallas cowboy fan for a lot of my earlier years and uh it wasn't until I started falling in love with the panthers that kind of stopped rooting for for Dallas, it's been some years...

...now. But yeah, it was America's team. So I was just, I had to inherit that until we had our own. Well, I got definitely, I got to ask you, what do you think about uh lamelo ball? I think lamelo is raw talent, uh who's on the verge of going into something really amazing and dynamic and explosive. I think he's the great facilitator. I think he's a great team, team leader, He knows how to get people bawling and getting them. He keeps those boys running. Um And I think he's just, he's so young man. What is like 18, 19? Yeah, I think he's a 19 or 20, maybe He maybe 20, maybe 20. But to be that young with so much talent that he hasn't even tapped into yet, I think I think the world we'll see so much more from melo ball. Um And his father, I loved his father, hebrews before and his brother to uh place for the Pelicans. You know, I like seeing them going at it. It's like, you can tell, it's like we've been doing this for a long time. Y'all stay out the way, y'all stay out the way. It's me and my brother right now, we're about to have uh so it's always good to see that, but I'm going to use the UFC fan as well, so. All right. Yeah, man, definitely. If I was younger, I'll be I'll be putting them both. Well, there's a lot of there's a lot of celebrity boxing going on. Yeah, Yeah. Celebrity boxing is good. You know, I'm up in the age now, so I still, I still got some quick hands, but you know, I don't know uh who's your favorite UFC fighter, definitely Jon jones. Uh um Guzman, uh jasmine, uh I like Boozman Jon jones. Um My favorite to watch is uh Nate D. S uh there's a few Amanda Nunes is incredible. Yeah. Um Edwards is good. He's good. There's a there's a lot of great fighters, there's a lot of them. Um Yeah, I don't know if you saw, you know, Claressa Shields the boxer. Yeah, she's switching over. Yeah, I'm in uh in June after June 10, I believe that's the first fight, I think she'll do good. She got she hits hard for sure. Yeah, she gets she gets her grappling and wrestling together. She definitely could do some damage. Yeah, definitely. Alright, my last question, are you going to do it versus you know, what am I gonna do? A versus Yes, I will. Um They wanted me and Music Soul Child to do, do one and I reached out to music a little while back, but he was busy doing some stuff and you know, in a different space at the time. And uh he said, you know, but maybe we'll talk about a little later, but the fans that have really wanted to see the two of us and he has a ton of it. Uh So that says a lot about what they feel about my music. Um I think he's had more radio records. I have a lot of great um album songs that never made it to radio that people play like a single. So I think it would be interesting to see music, Soulchild and myself. Uh but definitely versus is great shout out to uh swiss beats and timberland for being creative innovators. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, that'd be dope. Uh was there anything else that you want to go versus against? I think music was a good one. who's another one that I felt like it would be good? Um mm maybe I think Maxwell could have been something fun. Yeah, uh, DeAngelo, but...

...it could have been kind of kind of fun in terms of R and B and sure, you know, hearing what the fans think about me. I think those, those would be good. All right, well, I appreciate you coming on. My boy told me, my boy told me all the aunties in America are gonna go wild now because of this. Oh yeah, you're about to get all the anti love in the world, man, You might even get some grandma panties, throw that your screen, you might get some grandma panties, man, don't be afraid. Don't be afraid to embrace the grind my panic and uh okay, but cling to the occupant a little little little little more. But enjoy yourself, man, I appreciate you paul, man. Thank you and thank you for your patience, man. I know I was a little running a little late with the kids and all, but I appreciate it, man. It's great interview. Yeah, no problem, appreciate good luck, good luck with the album. I'll definitely be promoting it for you all right man, appreciate it, man. I'll be looking out for you to you're gonna be doing great things as well. Mhm.

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