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Anthony Ireland | Average to Savage EP30

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This is the thirtieth episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring professional basketball player Anthony Ireland. Paul Guarino talked with Anthony Ireland discussing his life growing up in Waterbury, Connecticut, his basketball career from college at Loyola Marymount to his professional career overseas, and his AI3 Leadership Academy! Follow Anthony Ireland https://www.instagram.com/AIreland3 https://twitter.com/AIreland3LA https://www.facebook.com/ai3skillsacademy/ Fueled by K Plus Organics https://www.kplusorganics.com/

This is the average this aveage podcastwith Bal Garino everyone and anyone athletes, solentsand much more which IP everybody I'm back for anotherepisode that Avee Sais podcast Knoer special guest professional basketplayer Anthony Ireland Ou see, what's going on, Erbthn Fr, huit'snd, OfarEthingin, the middle of myseaocontinue to continuin Te Gforsur. Let's USstartyou growin up in Waterbuy. So what was that wha was that, like elpoulation ofnorth of Hunddlfsclalsup,a basketball young age, my father, my father played basketball. We actuallyplay for the same high school team and Samig School Coachortstown, basktball,basketball, football. You know itwas small enough to knowg or the next grade.Ahad of you, Talo of Essonsapart of my life today, an like to say you knowwcigaeme thisasame,you know just kiding out mindset. So Yeah You PICKD! U Basketball, I'massuming you picked it up, because your father, like you just said, and did youplay any other sports grown up yeah growing up up play baseball. I playdfootball. I actually actually a part of my childhood. I was spent outin Arkansas Jonesbor Argansas, my my stepfather. He was. He was himmandedhis family an and he was in the Navy, so he was stationed down there. So Ilived down there for about two or three...

...years, which you know I really got infootball, and so then, but but by the time I went Iwas in, I was going in the fifth grade. My Mom, you know in the Familye movedback to Connecticut, and then it was. It was just basketball from there. Itknow Gotcou. So what was that like living in archetal for how many yearscou o years, a probably about three years? I mean it was it as it was cool man Imean it. Was' wasn't wasn't much to do as a very small town, but bat I meanbasketball, wasn't wasn't big big down. there. T was mainly like likeceerleading there. You know there's a lot of like boy cheerleaders. You knowflip o flip into a bankflip on all this stuff, but down there, my mapols prettymuch football, but I mean it was a cool experience. Tuth the worst part about it was youknow you know I had to. You know the family and I had to drive down thereand come back so that wasn't a pleasant drive at all. So that's kind of themain memory that sticks out of my head yeah for sure. So then you move back upto Connecticut, you start high school and then when was it like? When did youknow you were like elite? I would say I mean I knew I could be good, probablylike after my after mysofomore year in high school. You know I like it. Youknow I made the first sea team as a freshman and I played FORC as asophomore but um. You know I kind of was just you know, just a normal, normal, normal high school.Kid didn't really stand out, and then you know I just you know I kind of just dedicatedmyself one summer and you know I just you know I played playe a Bal, itsConstaly in the gym. You know I can remember times where you know. I don'tknow why. I did this, but like there's certain times where friends were goingto the mall friends were going to. You know football games and I would justfind myself in the gym you know by myself or or with my little brotheractually and then I you know at then I that'sthat following year, Kame my junioryear and then I put up some good numbers andI was you know we went to the State Championship and we want it. So then I was like Mana.You know I E. I can be good at this.

You know my high school coach, you knowmy family, you K, I started getting recruited a little bit D, Tod threelooks and then an then from there. I know Iseen that the work, the work, the work that I put in it it manifested so thenthat, following year s is when I really took off. You definitely feel likethat's a reoccurrent team, with pro athletes of their hardware ethic sobeing from Connecticut. How did you end up at Loyol Amerina, which is inCalifornia yeah, I mean so so after my senior at Crosbe, you know I had likelocal offers like sighard university. Central Quinnipak has some Li Umask,fordam university looks and then so. My perpse Chool, I mean my my AU teamthat I played for they. They got me in touch with this preschool and then soso after the year prep and then that year prep, you know you, I wasobviously able to have play another year Vu so that you season, I did really well played. You know hawLev, a schedule, an travel to all the big tournaments, and then I played inlike the NEP sack Leguea and the WINCHII school, which is a prettyprestigious basketball league in the New England area. So you know I didreally well and then you know, t lmu came and came into the picture. I hadbigger offers like worker SNT, John's University of Miami, but let me Len Yu offered me first backin back. You know like earl, early prerschool season, so you know Iverbally committed to them, and then you know towards the end of the season.Like I said, all those all those bigger schools came, you know, so I kind ofjust you know wanted to stick with what I knew the the coaches. You know reallyshowed you know they really showed how lit they wore to me. They would comedown and see my games. Alle leve from California and en you know, lmu was was the onlyphysit that my that my mom came with me...

...on. So you know I'Mi'm a ConnecticutKid heas coast kid flying fine, four hours, all the way out to La you know Iland in lax which is like a SA famous. You Know Airport immediately. You knowthe good weather hits you and then you see palm trees to thebeach. You know I'm driving down. You know I'm on my physit, so ther's showng,we all the Nice places, Wer Dayo drive hollyoo Boulevard Dennis Bee AntaMonica. So I'm like man. I've never seen anything like this in my life. Soafter that it was kind of like I said my mom came with me, sothey you know they put us in a nice hotel. They made us feel verycomfortable, and so I knew at the EN theday at the end of their visit. You know my mind. My mom was kind ofmade up in my mom. She agreed with me as well so whenc she gave me the okay.It was kind of all right, that's where I'll be never sure Yo. You just told meon Calli right there, too, Yeahi go back. Every summeris is noplace like you, man just did divide the atmosphere, you know just you know,people are, you know free thinkers out there and it's Jut. It doesn't evenfeel like it's part of the US is very, very liberal and just a very differentdifferent area to being how about like going. There did people know like rightoff the bad like the way you talk, Ang stuff, you were from like the EastCoast. It's a be honest man like they didn't.I mean I mean they knew obviously from what my slang and you know the way Idress, but people don't even know whereConnecticut is. You know, like you know, like you know what you know.Freshman introduction at just be, like you know, I'm from Connecticut and thenyou know I'd always have to say it's the city next to it a stay. Next NewYork and then theyd be like okay, okay, Iju know what you're talking about thit.But you know people don't know about Connecticut at all man for sure I meanobviously other than you know, ucon...

...women's Bask boid and you can'. You Kowyeah defnitely, that's funny, so you started right awayat helling you! No! So you know I had a add a juior that was ahead of me, an ina senior guard that was ahead of me. So so I didn't start. I didn't start rightaway. I started probably I started like the last twelve thirteengames, the senior he hande again gettingreleased from the team, but so sof things I'v finished out myfreshman yearpretty pretty well and then ever since I got to start job, butyou know I just continue to run with it. You hid so you kept that Sertin job andyou got. You got a couple records there. Right yeah got a lot of records. I know I you know I don't knowspecifically, but I got like two thousand points: five hundred six fiveinjury bones: Two hundred steels, I'm like third all h time on points right. You know I didn't. I didn't. Ipassed Bot Cimpbell, but I didn't pass hangathers. You know I, the lay hanggathers, he's a he's, a legend up there. You know te Camis called Hanks House, so you know they have a thit thirty onon him. So but he acked it was. It was very hardto pass this record. He everage. I think it was like twenty seven and likeseventeen for like two straight years, so it was, it was going to be tough tobreak denter yeah. Definitely and you justyou just got the whole theme thereright, yeah S. I just got intented to all thefame this past summer and the the ceremonious is actually in Februarywhich which I won't be able to make. You know ss, I still being turne stillbeing season. Soyeah know, I know, is unfortunate. That spoke to the ad and the president, and they you know theysaid they'll. The have a separate ceremony for me whenever the time isconvenient, so that's Somhin t look...

...forward to so cool, and so you finishup your career there and then I know you tried out for the NBA, so anyou try to, I believe, for the Lakers. So what was that whole experience like yeah, so I finished hit my yea. Ifinished up elemu pretty well, and then I got a you knowI did I did you know I did a bunch of workout clippers, Lakers Dallas,Houston Portland, so I has tad. You know afterafter that that my my senior season sign with an agent you know had a had amuch workout setup for me and then I probably worked out for the Lakerstrily three times, and so I was I was on there. ASEMER leagueteam, Dida didssemily with them for about like about a month and then theythey wanted me to they wanted tosign me for their dealy team, and then you know bum. You know myagent was still you know. You had very very good connections overseas and youknow because my resume what I did in what I did in college. I was veryvaluable as a rookie, so so I so I had a deal in PROA France wis. I, which isa very prestigious league, probably like the top four leagues o out here inEurope. So so ias either you know, and then itcame down to just you know. At the n of the day it comes down to business. Youknow, like you, can't really can't really get your feelings and emotionsat balled obviously and be wlse to dream, but it was, you know it was. Itwas like before either either I go to the dleague and with with hopes ofgetting the call up but I'll, be making I'll be making probably point twosand before taxes or take a six figure dealin in France, so of m, so it was kind of you know is kind of no brainer. Youknow I mean, and then so I made that decision andplay my first year ind Pro France yeah. I mean, I think one good thing. I thinkthe deleagues last Jo Legue now I think...

...it's Gettin ben better and I've seenlike even like, I know, probably back, then it wasn't even the same because Iknow the past few years, like a lot of people in P, getting called up not like,like you SA, not really get called up and now, and I saw tha they're about tostar offering like livable wages eventually, like I thinkin like two thousand and twenty or something right I mean yeah, I mean that was thatwas you know. That was the main reason why it was this like. No, I can't Ican't do that. Man I put in too much work to to this craft to settle. For you know.Twentyzar Ollars Yeah was definitely a high risk, one reward yeah for sure for sure, and I know youplayed in you plut in seve several countries. So far, so what's like Wat's,like the overseas experience en like in like, what's been your favorite countrysomewhere, I mean oversas. Experience isdefinitely tough man, it'Sitsyou Knowiwantt Sta.by saying it's not for everybody. You know a lot of people. You know say yeahthat W I want to play overseas, I'm trying to get overseas, but you knowyou have to have very tough mindset to just to survive.You know not on not only the best word but, like you know this, the businessaspect and you know being alone and away from home and in a foreign country,wirh different cultures. You know people move different. No, they act OMcreit towards Americans. So you know it's definitely a culture shock everycountry I've been to, but you know I, like you know for me, you know 'm, I'ma! I have an introverted personality, so it kind of kind of works out for me.You know I enjoy the downtime I enjoy my you know being by myself a lot. You know I' unfortunate enough to havetove. You know I've been able to five some of my family members out here andhave them come to stay with me, but Um yeah, like I said I played inFrance my first year and then my second...

...year I went to I went to Poland and Iwas there for about for two years and then last season I played Lithuania andthen this season, I'm currently in Russia right. You know and- and you know it's a every every year you know I've kind oflive kind of leveled up for lack of a better term. So you ow, then that'skind of like the goal is, you know not only to get more money, but just payplay for a higher play for higher level team, higher level coach in a higherlevel league. So you know that that's what I've been doing, Russia, the VCBLeague, is you know the the best league outside of outside of the NBA. So you know, like Imessed up against. You know great guards. You know teams team with big Buk bigbudgets, an teams that are very recognizedand known across the world.So you know going into I'm in my fifseasonnow, so I'm right, I'm right where I want to beand then right on track to you know, red reach might reach my goals, yeahfor sure and those te that don't know you guys only could sign one yearcontracts. Orright no, I mean Soi man, some guys sign sinside to your deals, but nothing more. Nothing. Never more than two years y could be like a one plus one. I'mseeing my team option player option, but for me I've only sign one. Yourdeals just yeah, it's just you know it's I mean it could be a bad. Youcould look at it in a bad, weird, good way. You know I W im the OU, no havethe mindsat where you been on yourself, so it's just like Oka. I'm gon no comehere for a year and prove that I can dominate this league and then I'll geta better contrack next year. You know for sure. So How d? How do you dealwith that pressure? Knowing that I mean it as it was? Definitely tough man,especially my wooking Yeari, was in France. You know it was I caus. Ididn't understand the business aspect of things I didn't know. You know guyscun get cut guys c. You know if you...

...don't play good one game you're out ofthere and they can send you home without pay, and so I didn't I didn'treally understand but now, but now I'm in a situation where it's just you knowit's normal. You know. So you know, and you know I trusted my game. I put somuch so much into it. So so you' not coming to the seasons very prepared.You know just because the the work I'm putting in the summer time so so Idon't EA. I don't even think about it, think about it anymore, but I had a fewinstants, my rookie year, where it was just like you know: okay, I could bepotentially sent home or you know they don't like how I clake the last twogames, so you they may com me, but but now,but now there's no pressure. Now it's just you know it just comes with it.You know like if you especially if you're an American you they look at youto come and produce you know and and then means for the most replutible inthe hoop. So and you know that's, that's- that'sbeen a part of my game, my whole life, so that that's never been a problem,but you know it does in your at times it can be. You know, because hi itsjust tough man is tough. You know, you see, you see, teammates go through it.You know yourself may go through it with a coast that may not like you. Youknow I've had coaches. You know just not like my game, where the presidentor the Gmmay have brought me in and Wut the coachnnessers and like my game, soI'm not playing that the minutes. I should or I'm not playing the role Ishould be playing. So it's all just Alli, just aouways like a situationalsitting out here and every like you can. You can dominate for first season andthen next year and then next year play eight minutes a game. You know I meanso so its I mean it's very up up and down. You know lifestyle, but but you know Iembrace it and yeah just like I said I know how much work I put in. So it's ITS, it's easy for me for sure. What's the biggest difference between like theAmerican style asketball on like...

Europeans, O Leer? Well, it's I mean well. The Way I cancompare it compare is like it's like watching it like this, likethis, like it's like watching the spurs play. First, Watsh is an like okay C or you know, go stay warriors. You know Imean, like obviously spurs is. You know I think popfitgh has that that rulewere like you either Ou. You Have Tho bought two seconds. You have twoseconds to pass, O shoot it or make or drive, basically make a decision of twoseconds. You know you can't play with the ball. So that's how it is here,it's very methodical which can be a plus positive or negative, but you knowtheyre. You know, and obviously the NBA is more one on one to Manga. Pickanroll or I so situations, but it's just all about like you know the way we're brought up. Youknow, Americans, you know, were clearly more athletic and to run faster jump. Higher oandte thinkthe things that close ar the things that Europeans lack. Obviously the onestha the Europeans that don't lack that during the league, but so so they're brought up differently,and you know it's more like a school system where you learn, you lear,you're, learning the Flix offense at ten eleven years old, you're learning back door, Cuzat, eight nine years old,you know so like your the Europeans Iq is much higherthan you know: An American high school kids. I C you know I mean Suut, like Isaid: There's, there's pluses and minuses, but but yeah, that's that's pretty! That'spretty much. The difference! Ygoti got it and, let's jump into some of yourcommunity work with your Ai Three leadersip academy. So tell me tell me alittle bout that about that yeah. So it's it', a it's organization based an basedin Waterburry, Connecticut, we've been my partner of Belio Vass was, and Ibeen running since two thousand and...

...fifteen Wen disavere fifth annual campcoming up this summer, very proud to say: Tis is we're goinginto our fifth year. But it's like you know, community based,and you know we do. We do camps, for you know nine, nine and fourteen yearolds, every summer you know, thissummer was was a record of record highparticipants what he had about a hundred and thin hundred forty fortytwo, forty three kids, something like that. So so it was a great turnout andthen you know you know we provide them. It's a ten ten to ten to five PM. Soyou know we give them luncs. We Gom. You know gears shorts, jerseys, a bunchof bunch of tshirts bunch of tshirts to go home with it last three days. So you know it's agreat atmosphere. We have you know the D Dj there for the Games. You know youknow. Parents and and just know, people want to grow inthere O. I love basketball. Just that want to come come be a part of it. Youknow they're more than welcome, so you know EIT's it. A very good hapenatmosphere for the kids. You know so so. So that's what we've been doing forthe past five years. You know last last summer we did we d.We also did an Elique camp, so I was ai threeeleague camp and it was a top twenty five players from the previous from theoriginal camp. In my coach, actually coach, good from coash Menlmu came down,spoke to the kids for about an hour and then you know kind of put thim through,like a a college style practice put themToifer. You know various drills that you know they've, never never seendefensive in offensive trills and then and then you know we just we do. We dosome fundraisers. We do do a lot of stuff for the community. You know youknow, like I say this, the summer Wul Ber fifty annual, so you know that thatinformation will be coming out very...

...soon, and you know I love my community,so I'm looking forward to connecting with everybody- and you know playing ona putting on a great summer for Waterbury. You know just just Kancontinuing to provide content- and you know connected with H, connecting withmy community is, has always always been like a joy of mine, yeah. DefinitelyYeah I've been seeing it for a few years. Now I feel, like you've, beengrowing every every every yeah e every year. It's been, you know, steppingstone, and you know kind of like learning from the previous years andand and just continuing the grow. You know.Obviously it's not I'm not doing everything by myself. You know haveformer, you know elit collego players that are that are on staff, fo pros andAr ound staff. You know, like the help me out a lot. You know like tat, mypartner O Ullio. He He's a program director, so he pretty much organizeseverything. Ou now makes it make sure everything runs to run smoothly and youknow without the without the help of him and the guys hat the guys that wehire ther'll be there would be nothing so. But yes, it's a great time and yougot to come down N and check us out this summer. Man H definitely help youthere for sure e Ha be cool, man, Awoulde, definitely be cool, and then Iknow you and Julio just started your podcast, the grind. So what? What do weexpect with that? Yes, you know the grind podcast we putout two episodes, and you know those two episodes are really just you knownow laying down the foundation and putting you know, O r. You knowestablishing our intent for the Fer for the PODCAST, but you know I'm. You knowI'm in a physician where you know I have you know I have I've met, you know,pros proat, pro athletes and, and you know the NBA and overseas. So so youknow I, like you know I want to be able to to share their stories with thecommunity. You know becaue not a lot. You know oversses Basketballisbecomeing popular now, but you know now you when I was growing up, you didn'twant to. You didn't know that you can feed your family and make six figures,seven figures playing over here in Europe. So you know what I want. I wantpeople to know. You know th. You know,...

...there's the guys that that Wen highmajor, even guys an Wen midmajor, lowmators they're making you knowpretty good change out here. So so it's not like NBA or bust mentality. Yeah Imean so. You know this. I'm actually interviewing one of my teammates tradegolden. He went to University of Tennessee and so an interview him thisweekend and just you know, share his story and but it wont Itit's not only going to bebasketball based. You know we kind of want to kind of want t interview likeyou know, enrepreneurs kindit kind of just people who you knowwho go against the grain and you know you know, pay pay their way. You knowwhen I want to introvute interview like really real estate mobils. You knowpeople in finance people, you know that deal with real estate, people that dealwith investing. As you know, the BOSL stops bouncing or you know you can'tyou can't play forever O and I'm learning that every year- and you knowyou know, I'm learning more ways to make my money work for Mak my moneywork for itself. You know so so when you know I've been deavin real scityEve ben Devlin and you know stocks, and you know you know the trumping industry,so you know just just sharing those stories and, and you know puttingputting light on those situations. So, like you know it's not only you know,because in Waterbury and many other cities across the world, it's you knowit S. ethat you play sports or you rap kind of you know I mean so so you knowI kind of want to just show that there are other outlets. You know that youdon't have to necessarily have a degree or you don't have to go to Harvard orYale you know to make to make. You know you know you don't have to go to Yaleto go to make six figures in in real estate. Youknow' saying where you don't have to go to Harvard to make. You know a bunch ofmoney in socks. You know those are just something some some. You know traesthat you learn. You know, and you know so that th t the podcast willwill go going to that as well, and I'm very excited to to you know: Causi havea bunch of ideas, and you know Whoyan,...

I very excited to just to just you know, get this thing goingand and said Shit give out all the information we can yeah. Definitelyyeah you! Don't you don't need o you onneed college anymore in general. Idon't think, but lik you an make, there's a lot of ways to make money nowoun like just making youtube o yeah. I mean that that old. You knowthat old system of just broken. You know you Gott, you got to go to you gotto you, go to go to school for four years and then get a job and work toyou. Retired, that system is over with nom, you know so, with with theInternet. You know I mean it's, you know, you know, you know you cut outthe middleman and, just like you said you put Ou Youtube Idos, you can makemoney from instagram accounts. You know you can you know you are like you, youknow, I'm saying you can become a celebrityy, not celebrity, but youcouldn't come famous, for you know, provide something for the world. Youknow over the Internet. You know I'm saying with just your mindset, so you know- and it is a great I'm superhappy and andfortunate to live in this day and age. Just Liv with with this type of access,yeah for sure, like social media wasn't around, I mean I probably wouldn't havelike anything that have right now. Yeah I mean yeah. I mean same here MamYeah Wut. I was be able to do the basketball stup, but not as it not onthis type of platform. You know like and just getting back to your pointbefore, just like that probably helped overseas, likelook more like successful than like people thought it was like. You knowwhat I mean t o yeah Wili mean without a doubt. You K, overseass growing,because social media, you know you, can you know t', there's guys, you know,like you know, norse Cole, you know just hita game winter last night, but nobody would know if if there wasn't a networkor for you know Social Omedian Network, that that was able to showcase that youknow I mean so so it's just super super doeman 's, you know and then and thenthe ideas are our limitless. You know...

...like Ye years ago. I Didi never wouldeven think of having a podcast its kind of ISA, no brainer, becauseit's like all you have to do is talk and you provide content and you changepeople's ideas and the way they think and their lives. Nd Not only affectsthem, but it affects generations in their family. And it's just it's justamazing man. Yeah. Definitely are you ready for some funny questions? Yeahsure, sorry, you know what you got Aso. What's some things, people might notknow about Yo man. I definitely Welli'm. Definitely not agood dancer, I'm a terrible dancer, but I do want to like I do want to. I dowant to learn how to play an instrument perferably like the piano or thesexophone. I think I think that would be Dobrin.You know just I feel like youow. You Know Rewi, my brain in a sense you knowso think I think thatwuld be pretty cool man. Definitely something I didn'tknow yeahsure man anwhat about bout. Can youcan you give me your Tok fie, favorite port point gards of all time? Point cars eyes, tough, top five Mymya,I favorite player, you know is prite position, Lis Onegoo one one he'seither one or two but Allan Everson, so so AI and number one. I probably go totally different player by probably goJ kid. I definitely pay Steve Nash on there. I put I pos, I Thomas in there, the old IsaTownis man. Then I put the pro I put Lebron in there just because he's a wayreplaye the one position, but e pesen Ma at the for you know you can play iteone, but at the five you know Amfertur...

...what about what are three jerseys, anysports that you have to have three jerseys like okay, Ahany Sports, okay,Shit, Myamalegan, Havea Jersey. I would like Thatt Hank Hank Aran, noway what yeah Hank Aaron was the one who broke the the color Barryer right,Jacy, Roi, Jack Y, Rob M triving, I'm Churmin Jacki robbs, Jenny, RobinsonJackie Robinson. I go with the JUSTA, the throwback Allaniveson Jerseyand they probably like a John Starg Jersey for sure, because Iwas that was like my guy growing up and you know had that done. You know dumpdDon, pretty much whole Chicago Bulls team. You know so that was that was my teamgrowing up in New York, Nick, so Jack Starts Jacke, Rominson and then AAHperfect. What about what are your favorite kicks to? Bon hoka kicks? Damn chukuba kicks, probably Ih. I I wil go witthe penny artaways and her I know ther. Idon't remember the exact the exact like fir like person, Nesack Siger, butthere's a specific one. It has like then then, has like number one. Unlikethe back R, the tongue yeah one of the yeah that one for surethat's definitely a different answery. I woesn't expecting noone Yeah War Thosin college for about two years man and they were most com. LISTENINGHAT IVEhad jappreciate you coming on and whorkang people find you on so for meyeah. So you can find me on on Instagram at a Ireland, three ontwitterEGH island, three La O, Ma facebook. You can find the Infoonicademy a AI three leadershipacademy were on Facebook, were on in...

...twitter, AI, three leader LLC. You knowWer on Facebook, like I said, Anyou, can find the grind. You can find the podcast information update at thegrind podcaston on Instagram and ontake book, So Yeah Tho a let sad that I have.

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