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Anthony Marsella Jr. | Average to Savage EP2

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The second episode of the Average to Savage podcast with Paul Guarino. Guarino talked with professional boxer Anthony Marsella Jr. discussing boxing, business, giving back, and more. Powered by Training Mask www.trainingmask.com -- PG Sports is a digital sports brand that has been Everywhere & Anywhere since 2011. With a rapidly growing social network, we are dedicated to designing fresh apparel, breaking sports news, and connecting athletes to fans! ---- Follow Us Online Here: Instagram: www.instagram.com/pgsports Facebook: facebook.com/pgsportsct Snapchat: snapchat.com/add/pgsports Website: www.pg-sports.com Twitter: twitter.com/pgsports

This is the average to savage podcast with Paul Greno, everyone in anyone, athletes sets and much more. What's up everyone, I'm back for the second episode of the average of savage podcast. got a special guest today, Anthony Marcella Junior. Anthony, what's up, what's going on? Brother? Yeah, so what's this? Dig Right into it and tell us a little about yourself and how you got involved in boxing. How I got involved with boxing. Story when whenever I tell people it happened back and laughs, we mean a half back. But I got a had a late start in the game. You know, when I talk to people outs out of the sport, I'm like yeah, I start a box on our like fifteen, sixteen years old. Wow, you were young, young age, like all experience that I had like eighty eight am fight, like wow, yeah, start gives. I'm like not, like when you know the business, you know that. You know that's a really late start in the game. But what I mean by happened, my accident was my father just want realize UF defense. Actually had gun to a fight sometime middle school. Nothing Major, but my dad's wanted to know how to defend myself in case I ever needed it and what's a local gym? And I really stick with at first it was kind of like a boxing class us and just kind of Corny, you know. And I think after maybe a year went by and I had went to a local fight. Want to pick me a favorite fight and I was like Dad, I want on a box again. And we're back to Jim and it was a little bit more want on, want work. They put me in the ring, smart a little bit here and there, but I wasn't really consistent guy. I was just in there just for fun learn how to fight. And one day I went to the gym and everybody from the gym was getting ready to go to this local tournaments supermitten and people laugh. I say that was the summer blug the remains local torner up in Lowell that I ended up winning like to two years PAS in a row. But the first time I went, when I ask you to go, they just asked me to watch. Anyone can watch the fight. Yeah, I wanted. I never see any image of boxing before my life. I was like, Oh, kids my age fight and I was that was interested to seeing what it was like. So I went and when I got there, as I was strick man. So let me have back and it tricked me. It's I met up. They were like Oh, you want to fight, and it was more like I just might ego, and I mean I always a competitive kid and I didn't want to say no to a challenge in a way, you know. So yeah, yes, I'm up, let's do this. I didn't. I didn't have a mouth piece, I didn't have boxing shoes. who was just I just went in there and I fought on pure balls and I actually lost my first fight, my first image of fight, and and I think that's really what what sparked everything, because that just a few of the fire inside me. I start taking after the real serious cannel, the road work in training, you know, every day, five, six times a week, and ended up entering the first couple of local, major local tournaments, silver gloves the junior Olympics and they just took off from there. Ended up winning the New England's almost every year, regionals, going to pan at the national level. And here we are. Got and grew up playing any other sports. Yeah, I was big in basketball and baseball. Year I started boxing. All that started football, but I actually I had broken my thumb, which is not involved in any sport. Actually fell the beach, had a cast. I ever you do embart bast out the beach, which I gotsually have a screw my doumb till the day had to be putting in. The doctor said that the way it was broken, that's I was going to continue to box. You know, if it was it was something else, there's about that, I should get the surgery because it would probably keep breaking in boxing way way use my hand. So we had the screw put in and that kind of that point I left was when I was like decided that this is going to be a long term thing and that's when I put down the rest of the sports. You know, I was a freshman in high school and I love basketball. I want to play that. I want to join the high school team and I remember going to try outs and talking to the coach out hey and what's hops? Practice every day and they got every day five o'clock, like that's them time, you know. So I kind of face you know, I'm not, I'm not gonna not going to the NBA by any means of five nine, three points and all that. So I was like, you know, I put everything out the side. And like full force and boxes. So what about like what did your classmates say that you were boxing, like in they're playing like sports in high...

...school? Was that like weird? Did they like what they think about that? Yeah, I mean you got, you got both both sides of the spection. You got the guys who who think it's real cool. You know it's not. It's not like a typical sport. You know, not everybody's a boxer. People might take classes and it's like that, like like we talked about, but for me to actually compete, you know, you definitely stand out as athlete and as a person because it's just this is a unique sport. But then you got the other guys who who kind of look at you like Oh, eating, took back as the boxes, which was never the case with there. Without boxing, I wasn't soft spoken Specialty Young Age, you know, to like grew up in matared. You know, I threw my weight around. But but I mean it had it for had it pros and con because, you know, you get people ask you it could it can make you look good and they can make you look bad. You know, if it's at a young pet beginning of the people want. People want to test you or to people want to support you in gratulating on my achievements at the time, but that comes as the territory and the support. You know that, and even even now, as an adult and the pro league, you still get the same thing. Yeah, for sure. So what about what made you decide to go pro in two thousand and sixteen? So I actually another another accident. Not having much of an amateur background, you have at least start in the sport. I started when I I start comping at fifteen, tifteen years old, you know, seriously competing, and I remember going to Nahale. I had I had around like less than twenty fights and I'm fighting guys with a hundred plus fights and bomb compete with these guys. Now. Kind of hype about me at first, you know, want to on the minority in the sport, you know, being away, going the sport dominated by, you know, African Americans and Mexican talented. You know, they dominate the sport, they down with the sport, you know, and I was a minority and and and even outside of that, just going going to the national level and again be at my remember my first time at the national scene and I think it was. It was a Kentucky. I'm saying the way. I think was not like a Tucky, but oh so sure. I I'm being there and everybody knew each other. Yeah, I'm lighters, everybody seeking each other's hands. What's going on all you? You know, I remember your last fight over in Michigan. You know, good fight, local blood. They robbed you to this say that. You know you go into this tournament next month. You know, they got they all knew each other. You know, and I'm said, I end up learning the business letter on that. You know, you need these kids grow up with each other. You know, I didn't compete, and you can compete because start competing at eight years old and the Amish Competition. So you got guys who they've known each other that long. And for me I was like a dare in the headlights my first time compete in the national you know, I remember I gotta Buy, going to buy and I get to watch my competition and I was I was real confidently, you know, I could beat this guy, this guy, don't remember his name, but I remember watch them fight, you know, and then when I went it was my turn to compete, they I described me as a dare in the headlights and as I did nothing, you know, it was like, you know, who is that? Who is it? It's kind of froze up. But it was a good experience and I think that's what helped me propel in the sports fat is. I got a lot of experience in a small amount of time and me and my father, we traveled every tournament that we could afford to get to. We fought, you know, every local show that we could in the beginning, and that's why I was able to almost wrap up a hundred fights and the short spare time that I did in the amateurs. But going pro I wouldn't know rush. So he said the two thousand and sixteen one pro, I want pro on on the Debella show. It was supposed to be and it's why I was an accident. It's supposed to be to keep theirman showing port price, the first one before Durman. Guys go cars and it. And I remember going to New York and I met Luda Bella and, you know, both of us has to hit up immediately, being Italian, and he was like hey, this kick, the place is good. As you look, you's like we're in business. So he put me on that card and when there was an accident they moved to date. Smart of me backtrack of it then's that's why I was certain pro. It was like it was like a short, short notice. I think I had maybe three weeks to prepare. I was always the shaping with in the jyms, no offseason in boxing. I had originally intended on, you know, buying my time. I was like, I'm gonna, I'm going to train for the year, travel, will get different, get different looks all over the country. You know, we could talk about them. Maybe with a meet, travel out to Vegas it. We can get to that, because I had already been out there at this point. But I had intended on bouncing around and he's getting the experience and getting in there with different guys, as I had done the amateurs, but, you know, with pro and it would have been smarm but it still would have been a good look and to get in there and experienced it. So that was my plan.

I want to put me in that card. I was like my pro debut on a world pedal under car and I'm like absolutely, the was a show sign car to believes. That's why I agree to it. Signs Up, sign the contract and keep them going. An accident ended up moving the date a little bit, but ended up being a Guy Russell car. I can't remember who we fought, but still a big card complete that was still on showtime in my fight with actually my debut was was aired on Sky Sports, so it was a good day deal. I was t happy with my performance and and yeah, that's kind of why why I turned frome in two thousand and sixteen. As if I if I didn't, I'm not really sure what the if I'm going to follow the plan too. See, as I said, I wanted to buy my time in get some expolier all over the country and get them work with different things before you turn through. You didn't. You didn't go out there till after I was ill. I was actually training for a feel and national tournament at the time, but it was when when floyd stay for the packet. I was the first time I had been to floyds Jim. I had a friend of mine out here called big Bro we were sitting down having lunch one day and I was saying how I need to I need to get out here, and another I need to get out of here. You know, I get great work here because, like any different looks, you know, these a secret that the boxing scene isn't as active as it is elsewhere. Not, not, not the town we got. We got a lot of talent, but just a boxing see it feel like boxing is his live as it is in per se Vegas. And Yeah, I got out of here. Want to get different looks. You know, a big, big believer and you've become, you know, look on the average. If you leave, surround yourself with a stat right. So there I well, I want to be great on surround myself around the graze. So I a I talked to him. Yeah, I want to get the Vegas because I think that's a great idea. So he actually he booked my flight. My father had a friend in Las Vegas who let me stay and spare room with his. I went with the buddy in mine, but his name Scotty. He's actually still out there. He came out there with me within two days. He's like you, I don't want to leave, and he got a job and stay still. They know. That's that's why I went out there and I just walked in into the maid of a boxing club. I didn't didn't know anybody. My coach at the time, Jose Santos, from what islands for one boxing and Cranston. He he was close with Eddie Mustafa, trains, you know, trained, or trained at one point at least translatifiers and they with a gym and he links me up with him. So I went in there just asking for Eddie and Eddie's doing people and I started training. I was it. I didn't know anything, but they know kind of what to expect when in there and I was as we were asking for work. I was like yeah, I can need to sports barn and I don't think that they kind of knew what I was capable love at the time. I'm some white boy walks in the gym. They're like I probably look like not even like an average of the prize comes to get a look at the boxing the glasses. HMM, but I mean I need some work and he's some work and they're like we'll get to that, we'll get to that, we'll get to you know, we need to work on some things. I'm work on something. I'm national tournady to work and that put me in there with someone. I I don't know who his name was. Remember the first time I spart in there, everybody came out kind of like you see on TV, banging the ring, you know, and book in fight. Okay, okay. So I heard my strikes, you know, ran at the box and that's just kind of what happen. I was there for three weeks the first time and I remember going home tell my father, but they experience and you know the amount of work I was getting in the type of training and quality training I was getting. A Guy, think my father, as I've always in a flood MENA with a fan. I think my father thought I was just star gazing and, you know, he kind of just wanted to be over in the line, might be around, be close to Floyd, type of the deal, and I'm like not, yeah, I know, it's like I need the work I'm getting out there and because for a while, you know, for me being out there alone and I was only maybe what eighteen, nineteen years old, what's point blast right now? So he was, I think, a little worried about, you know, young son being being in Sin City, but also worried about, you know, my wellbeing in the gym, making sure someone was looking over me whatnot, and that's when I end up getting close with my coach, now, Chris, hasn't been a lot of pros. Last name. You can type it up later. You got to see that. Nobody can see that. You know. He took me under his wing, you know, and he trained jailing love and a handful of fighters over at Flo Gym as well, and we saw it again. I started doing track, track work with them, train conditioning with them, as I know, send the clip step with my father backs. I ended up going out there probably two, three, maybe four times of course of the year for a week, two weeks at a time, just, you know, whatever money was in my pocket and my dad's. My Dad did supported. So I went on my own time. Every money had staved up whenever I was doing on the side and kipt tunnel. I not. I got need to be there and my dad just wasn't. He wasn't buying it. He wasn't buying it on my dad. You came out there with me and soft yourself. You understand,...

...like it's where I need to be. After I made my pro debut. But there's a mute a little bit on the business side of boxing. I was October one to say, but tops number of two thousand and sixteen, where I had gone back to Vegas. I was staying with Floyd's bodyguard, Greig Larosa, another game. I hit it off with him. Actually poorly. D introduced you to greg when I went out to the first time of the pack. Ye, I can't. I don't know how they knew each other. Bunch of Italians, just you know, and he introduced the Greg in the gym. Mean Gregor was touch Greg as looked out for me. He's probably down my biggest support out and in Las Vegas, and he told me that if you're ever out here and you somewhere stays, I got to spare room and more than welcome to just stay for a week or so. You know how long you need. So I remember hand him up and I'm like, yeah, I got might come out there this weekend. I'll then we're fall on Sunday. He's not come out on Friday. I was there was a boy got some fight you, so you should come check them out. He's like you can come hill with us. You probably going to go out after and I was like I was that's all I need. The air, the way I can go out with you, Floyd, like hang on floor I guess these they'll be any other biggest boy friend the world, young kid, and I was like, I'm in there, you know, I mean to take it was like an extra two hundred bucks, but I was like, I don't care, book that's like. This was on a Thursday night. I left, I booked a flight and I was back. I was on't playing with the like full five hours coking up the airport when I had that fluid a few times. I remember we're from the airports. The cousin polity with the fights were at he you know he's on, he's on, he's on the job. So Floyd pulls up and their sport, Floyd inside, but before you get out of the car he recognized me from the gym. But also here s did a Gig in province one time where we know we we were chatting a little bit, we took a picture and here's a fighter right back on. Sold a little bit about me. So I was kind on his radar from there and would actually help me out. He took care of me a little bit, put me up for a while whilst my second pro fight and put a couple of dollars in my pocket. You told me you know he's like this is, you know, the game needs. He's been through it. You know he takes care of his fighters, wants to make sure that they're comfortable, make sure that they can focus on the task in front of them. Some times, you know, money, even a place this day or transtation, is a big burden on a fighter's if we're not in a comfortable situation, because a lot of us aren't. So forlid, make sure I was comfortable. So it was. It was square, a rolls, was a ride and and it was actually, you know, I remember my father, who again wasn't wasn't sure about me being out there. Remember, remember give him that phone call, like a lot this what did death for me, the way they what fluid, like what you were fluid. I flew my dad out the following weekend and we had dinner with fluid and I just told my father that looks like they don't want a chance. Tomb all right, so don't make sure he's comfortable. That's it. That's kind of what would embedded me into a lot of videos and basically being me, a resident, have a time of got my legnship, but now there for two years. I need to I pulled over once and they'll like you've been at I guess I'm supposed to get my residence deal with it. But yeah, that's a lot of Vega story for you. Yeah, there is a lot more to go into it, but that's for sure. Were some like the top guys you starred with her at the May weather gym. Actually, funny story. That top guy almost was floyd sport fluid one day, which I was heartbroken that it didn't happen. I was I was answer another time where I kind of just got back back into the gym. You know, I've never floyd with there. He wasn't saying for nothing. He just some reason jumped in the ring and he sparred with Thomas the Loreme. But he looked at me. He was a looking like you got to get and this is all actually, I'm sorry, rock story. I didn't just get back in the camp. I was doing my last week over training. Can't around that same time actually put me up. He told me to go to get out gear, but I had just got blood work that day because I was leaving in like two or three days for my fight back home with my second, my second prof fight, My last that barn. I had a resport that day adding here to go to. I don't Care Saps Barn. They're this opportunity to getting one of the greatest ever. I ran after the car, literally threw my gear on. I jumped in the ring like do this, you know, and close the put. You're going second, you're going to seconds. Won't small him for so he went. I want three or four rounds. They can't get here. A low blows by the little bit and then I hit him with it like this, another big little blow of what I was like. I just rolled out the ring like I'm good, like to many little blows. I don't know. You don't even can't even being there. Kind of just want to, I think, I don't know what's going on with the little time, but you want to see what he was all about, and I'll probably the same reason. Why yet spoil? I want to see what I was about. Its heart broken. Man, I was heart broken that day. But Floyd, that's the almost spar floyd story. But as far as big names go, the first time I was in Vegas the pack of camp, I sparked with Francis...

Bartolomy. I've been the ring with your contact Davis. You know all the flood guys, Ladarius Miller, real good south for he actually Jamal Harry I was a great fight live. Yeah, the biggest. Yeah, deny actually be a pain to this business. Doesn't many more names? Some big names out there. I mean you name maybe every pretty much everybody in Floyd's Day, Bernd my weeks been in the ring with yeah, but Ryan Guar see it. Other said the names outside of the gym was Ryan Garcia. Obviously Golden Boys or one of the biggest process right now. How is that? I don't remember too much of it because I know excuse about a stick of the dog that we got. I don't know. I think that's food poisoning at the flu, but I think what food poison some Sushia something that over on the Strip and I was like I'm throwing up that week. But it was my last week. A can't another I've had. I think I've ever had a good training camp. But be honest with you, like a talking to somebody recently, I'm like you lot goes down behind the beans. You see, you see the stuff we post and what's on the surface, but then realize, you know, any times fudders are and we go into the ring with a broken, broken hand or you know whose shake or whatever. You know. But but I yeah, where Ryan I didn't know. I didn't know who Ryan was. That was the funny. So I know who Ryan was and I'm going at the gym. Coach know or stick again, we've got they got a kid from east, from California, the like. You just have a golden boy. I don't ever get to the gym and I see him. It looks like a little kid, because I mean one, and this would probably almost two years ago now, so he's maybe, but yeah, young. I'm like, yeah, little boy got in there. I'm like any strong I tell everybody. I'm like, I'm like, you know, people look at him like you just lot kid, and you know, they you see it for themselves now. I was the based on this fight and almost all his fights and knocked out. We got pop. You can fight, you can fight, you can hit. I just remember yea, I said it was a real defensive fighters. So I didn't really have much of my tank that day. So I was just kind of doing m defensive thing. Pop sign just surviving, basically, you know, trying to get through the last week and can't you know how to get the work in? I wasn't going to not spar the last two and a half weeks before my fight, so I got it in there. which funny stories, though is could you probably seen some of the some of the DEF online? The other person I sport with that week was was Rollie, wonderfully fighters, and they have like this ongoing beef on social media from one of the smarting sessions. I spared him that same week. So it's fun. I can people ask me about my my my opinion on them all the time and I like both on cool. Both all my I'm closer with Rolie because he's in they can we work here at all the time. But I know people who do business for Ryan and and I definitely difite support Ryan's the way he's got going on. I understand the business and what he's got going on behind the scenes and I definitely commend him on all of his accomplishments. There's a lot of money that I can't remember right now. Let's move on to your most recent play, which is may eleven. Good. You're a tough fight. You won my s with decision, which is definitely a tough fight. I tell it's like a date for me, and that's, you know, taking the concentration my fourth part, where I actually got dropped in like a fourth or fifth round, which, again, I mean my opinion, flies knocked down. It didn't affect me in the least. Placement and dropped the hand, you know. But yeah, no, this that this fight. And again, you know, I haven't spoken on it too much. Different because, like it just sounds like excuses, but me knowing what kind of went on during can't got a personal issues and health issues coming off an AEMONIA. I had the worst camp of my life going to this fight and I knew, I knew this do with stuff. That's it, I said. It's not, you know, not not take ain't away from from my phone, because I knew he was tough. You know, I just love on my career. You know, we're not fighting. You know, we're not. We're not fighting. We're not looking to fight process of world champions. You know. I mean that's why you don't see you. I'm going to see a guy on the ten flights calling out, you know, the four mayors of the world, percent enrage, crawfords, you know the WHO's. Are you even the guy who know the Devin a either or the Ryan Garcias, unless you're rolling, actually really going to call him on a daily basis. But I actually wanted to fight a guy who was nine and one or tending one. They turned to fight down. I wanted that fight. I mean me, as you know, guy, find a tenant, know, attendant, ten one guy, whatever he was, would look real good. Okay, bre you know. I mean. That's and that's how it is work. A lot of people don't understand the business. I'm sure you do, but the people listening, I wonder to find this guy. He said no, but then one of the mate to call me said this guy said that he will fight you, and it was. It was the guy who beat...

...to ten and one, guy that actually fought twice. He lost in the first time, beating the second time. And there was Rolando, the guy, but I thought he being a second time, though he is in factor a and seven going to this fight. I checked him out all the absolutely. I I don't think that's like and I'll be I thought this was going to be my best performance yet. Personally, Rolando, it was Taylor made for me. You know, come forward, guy. You know again, I don't. I don't say this to then we saw anybody, because he's a tough, tough fighter. And look what you did against me, you know, regardless of my condition and our last sight. But keep it straight forward, like you know, no special effects or come forward guy. And that's he. That's my wheelhouse right there. You know, I could I get I'm a counterpunch my boxer. And again, for the guys who no boxing or no me, and if you look at that fight, but who the hell was in there? And I didn't box at all. I couldn't get out of my own way and I never get hit. That's like that's my forte is is my defense. You know, I'm I'm merelusive and I was. I was just I was there all night. I had nothing in my legs, but I made it a dug fight. I concrasually my opponent. I know there are some people were were upset about the decisions. I wasn't. I wasn't surprised that I want because it was a hometown decision or a hometown fight. That's a lot of people need our and is I'm not. I'm not hotun fighter, but I'm not a CS fighter, not signed to see it, you know, they have no reasons to protect me other than I mean, if anything, it would have made more sense to them to go the other way, because now the next fight would sell out because obviously wouldn't want the rematch type. I think I'll touch of a loss. Yeah, for that. For the critics who are like, Oh, you know the self check your better, I mean it's I'm not there fighter. I can walk away tomorrow. I can go pay for something else tomorrow. If every reason to want to keep me there and to want to sell more tickets by giving me a l and now my egos going to say, I will give me the rematch and I don't care if you don't look me, you like me, you're going to come to that next fight you want. You want to the rematch right now. Unfortunately, you know, it's just not that. We're not that at that caliver yet where you know, and I heard that the kid want to rematch, and you know this isn't TBC showtime, pay per view. You know I'm not getting paid any more money to get him or rematch or fight him. So that for what we're running. I got at their proof. I got the w you know, you got to kind of you got to earn that stuff's people are gonna so it's a business man and I'm in this to make money. And the people frowned upon that. Listen, if you're in this sport, taking the Pun of it, but I split my eye open a head me wrong, but you know the punish me. You taking this core man, if you're not getting paid properly for you're a fool. Your fool. You know I'm not. I'm not going in there, put my body through what I put it through in training camp and in those fights and is barring to not get paid. You know, there's all I do. I'm working on some things in the back end to pay my bills and take care of myself and my future family. Or you can just my father. Now that's my biggest motivation and we could talk about that ass and but but I'm in this monument and if it don't make sense, the dollars so much sense. If it don't make money, don't make sense for sure. Like, yeah, I don't think people realize sometimes boxers have to like live regular life, to like everyday life, not like everyone just sees the match of that night. You know, and I like they go that. Yeah, so they don't get it like stuff like that. So that's one thing I like rolling a strata. It's done jason big six, shuttle with an Olympian. He says some all time. Is there really take my hat off to you. Taken off on your own, going across the country. Know what it takes really to be out there by myself. I realize boxing is more of a mental game than physical and it does, it does take a lot, and that's why I talk about you know, I don't want to get into the details, but you know, my with my last fight was what I was going through, physical and mentally, you know, on top of the again, some of the situation that were going on my life, on top of the fact that I'm already by myself on the other side of the country, kind of putting myself you know, I got to do everything. I'm going to turn to you know, I don't a family to talk to, you know, help me, you know, drive me the gym, you know, make sure that I'm fed properly. I'm doing I'm doing everything on my own. I don't you know, I make you look good on social media, so I'm doing it all my own. Little money out of my pockets. Isn't daddy's money. You know, people think you know. I don't know. I know a lot of people. Thank you. What White was Italian kids and that, like, I don't got my dad needs on his hand. INNIS. He's a Kyle Telefoi better kind of puts, you know, and is after my futhers. I guarantee I got my money. I've been counting him. You know what I'm doing this for us. I lost my mother when I was when I was seven years old, to cancer. A lot of people don't know the stuff because I don't talk about it. And I said me and...

...him and me and him against the world, and that's why you see team Marcela. Most of the Times it's just pictures of me and him or, you know, the only guy really have. You know, we don't even have paperwork. But Guy on my team is my as my attorney, and that's to make sure that the contracts are are are right, because I know I'm no lawyer. You know, I don't. I don't know. It's all different language. When reading that paperwork, I guess I keep a small circle, but I get a I get a big plan. So far it's it's going smoothing? Yeah, for sure. I think maybe you should just vlogged the whole training camp one day. I needed it. That's again that everything caused money to get it done. You know, I have a lot of ideas that my situation is a little different. I think people would be going away, but just like be on the scene stuff like. I don't think people realize that you just have to watch like everything you eat and stuff like that. It's crazy and I've tried to do some things, but it's kind of you know stuff and I don't want to. I don't want to put out low quality. Apparently. I mean I for myself on being the Rose Royce. I don't want to Stot it's an obviously another thing you do well is just marketing yourself, posting good stuff content. I definitely think that that's the difference as any fighter. But mean, a lot of people is like you. You and another and I don't know. I do my research. I know I read books like that. I read book into the day. You know, I make sure that I am have a good understanding whatever it is that I'm involved in. I don't just jump the gun. I do my due diligence. I make sure I'm educating on whatever is that I'm getting involved in. I don't want to, I don't want to rely on anybody. Sure that's why I can. I can. I can do it myself to pay someone to do it for for sure, as stuff goes fortunate that I can't hold the camera and punching bag. All right. So what about what is the future for you know, your short term future for like, what's what do you think when your next play going to be? Are you trying to fight anyone specific, like you're just telling me, and I remember one guy and he's maybe that he's tired. He said he's tired. Okay, hired, whatever, whatever. You know this level. You know, maybe he was just a point level guy and just having a conversa. Don't know his story, but at this point in time specifically, I have nothing on the table. I have a lot of conversations that have been had with with all sorts of tests of people. I know Jimmy see as boxing. Their next show, I want to June second at Fox would and then their next show at whine river, I want to believe, is sometimes our August, which I think I'd be capable because I have them made a tour stick to day, specially because of the cut up my eye. Yeah, nothing's been talked about yet. I have I have no date, but I'm also in no rush. There's some things that I'm working on in camp and strength train that you know, I'm going to rush to jump into the next fight. Yea, as far as opponent to be my tent fight, so tend to know it's kind of a kind of a monumental mark for a lot of fighters and things on TV and you know, potential bodies you start can rank, which is all on the conversation that we're having right now. So I wear no rush. So the text fight, I think it's going to be a crucial one, performing as far as we're places me on the boxing seat and that's all. We're in no rush and it maybe, if not, you know, but what we're going to conversation started even the next day. Just another fight. Yeah, either way, I plan on putting on a show as as I always do. That's one thing. I definitely I laughed because you know, first couple of fights and a couple of first round knockouts and things like that. You know, people complain you can knock out and they complain you don't knock them out, they can planet guy and I got you're in. You're in. I want to see a fight. I want it. They want to see that. You know I had a hun your run style. But all right, so my last fight, I give you a fight. I was a dog fight that you can't say you weren't entertained in that fight. But the last for fright, you got everything. Got TKO knock out. You know, in decision, decision, I think I'm doing my job. You know, as far as if I'm trying to Dan you guys, you know I had had that cut over my eye and I was a don't fight that. I'm dropping them in the fifth round with a solid left book, which they can't believe. You got up. Take my hat out and Begeta about so bad that he got up. Funny Man, you know, this sport being such an a communitive sport and you know...

...you can have biased fans and it's been that a man's like. They never happy after I learned it. But you got to you kind of have to get a block that stuff out. You can't let that gets you. But you know the fans and never had you don't matter. If you knock them out, you don't knock them out. If you give them a dog fight, you give them a boxing lesson. It's always so there was gonna have something to say. Always, always, always, and kind of feels me though, I kind of like a get the point where now, under saying I'm enjoying it. It's with conflict with some of the things that I read, but I had, I gotta really people who support me and I got nothing but love. It really is. It's quite the feeling to see the kind of kind of love that I didn't even know I had. It was the worst that people think that I see people to hand about me as a great feeling. It's a great feeling to have that kind of support, specially back home. But I'm just back home. All over the country now em all the world, at all the countries that reach out to be a regular basis. Yeah, you Gonda Right, you see that book. took a picture once. The fight is you hold up the signs. Cool, and it really is cool, but also even just don't being in the line like definitely makes you aware of, you know, who's who's that are around. You know you see people that the closet, the cause your friends of the post stay. Who who went up the bag comes out. You see that, you see the true side. You know that your side of them, the faint. You know. I think this is I had people and that last fight when people are telling me again and nothing against my opponent, and I think my hat out. We didn't talk too much, you know, we came. We came to the fighting that he had it out to do. I get that, you know, I get that stuff. As far as the fans, a local fans, it's I mean, you got the kids from I don't know, way he's from outside of the country, you don't know. And it's people in the crowd, you know, yelling, you know, yea his name. You know they want him to win. You know what town hater like that? That I got that much. I'm not saying I got more, maybe that, but people my own home town really want to see you lose. That's a crass incredible to me. That really is incredible to me. But but it's motivating the same. No, I think it's a good thing. On the below, I guess you're off the people that wanted to see whatever actually so. Or do you want to fight in Vegas? Absolutely definitely. I know on there another again, I understand business and marketing and is while I'm from, and they sent to US brand here and build off of the hair. I already had a falling size. It's I got a whole nother thing. You know. Again, you got these people, Bro who he just a local fighter like you. Look just a local fight on you. You think I don't have the opportunity to fight anywhere else and whenever I choose to fight here, I have a great thing going with Jimmy. We do a lot of good business together. But I've been off with things out here. Right. Choose the fun here. Why? Because one make more money here to it only makes sense to build off my phone here. If I going to fight, it's going out the back yard one again. You got the chance where if you're funding a local God, cough, for decisions, making less money myself tickets there, and let's I mean the people there. I mean there's there's a one pro to fight somewhere else. Maybe I get a few fans, but if I am big card, what am I going to you on? Make people going to go out of their way in Google me, search me, follow me. That supposed to media. You can with a couple of hundred. What is that doing for me in the long run? Look at next a couple thousand dollars different that I'll make playing at home. That makes a difference to me and with them playing my bills and put food in the table and reinvesting into myself. You got me to the point that that I'm at now, that this is funny, and I think if I didn't fight local, you know everybody like well, when you fight me Onny, I only get when I do fight local. You just a local fighter. But I'm just going to keep doing my thing and I'm going to keep protecting my brain and building my brand the right way. I'm twenty three years old, man. I have less than have to experience a lot of these these guys have a lot of these prospects have that are my position. I'm pulling good money in my pocket. There's a business and it's one that I that I understand, that that do well. So to keep staying in my lane. I'm not going to make any moves based on other people's opinions. That's not going to do nothing for me, for sure. What advice would you give to younger kids trying to get into to boxing because I like about whether, whether whether you do something with it financially or not, the things that I've the doors that boxing...

...is open for me, not just because of the relationships that I've built, but because of the skills and like the values that it's been stilpen to me. You know, our work to discipline patients, you know, person verance, things that you know, the things that I have. Would it in my life? You know, I got, I'm not. I've never put your truck my life. I don't drink, I don't smoke, and things that a lot of kids when they were younger might have dabbled in because they had no reason not to. You know, maybe maybe I would have if I if I didn't have boxing. You know, I walk away with a lot of things in your high school and will people start experimenting because other now like I got, I gotta fight, I got to see right physically as they can't alter anything. It just it tout me the whole different mind space where again, it just not even just that. That's just one example, but even just again, the being able to avoid anything, you know, being able to, you know, not go out on a Friday night. That I have a fight on Daturday, you know, just being able to sack, you know, sacrifice as another one. Being able to sacrifice, you know, something small for you know, the granted good, and those all skills and values that I gained through boxing. And then again, the thing is that I've learned in boxing for me, the people, the really things that I've built through boxing that put me in a place, you know, to me to make sure to make money and take care of myself and I'm my family. Advice to the younger generation game involved with boxing. It's you got it all in nothing. All in nothing. That's it you got. It's got to be all in nothing, because you can't. It's not a not a part time sport, and if you're not all in, you know, you're not going to learn those lessons that I was saying. I learned I was all in. You know, I didn't even know what I was going to do a boxing and I didn't I wasn't always the fastest guy, the strongest guy, I think you know. For me, PC fully actually says a lot is you might be fast in me and I'm stronger than me, but there's no one this this sport that's smart as than the mental side of this game is important, but you know, all in you never going to really learn those values because again, if it's a part time sport, you might you might miss those days in the gym's to go do those of the things that I was talking about. As far as the guys who were serious about the sport, you guys are serious of the sport. Who would I really like? They're they're in that, they're all in and you know they got the physical side down. Mental side is this is you want to learn in their life, skills really, not even just boxing. Learning, when I said the business, because business is business, is all the same what the business is. You shall learn the skills. You'll learn. You know, how to how to communicate with people. One of the books are right in high school is how to win friends with others. So when you're trying to build relationships, you know you want everybody to like you. You know, and even in the amateurs I made sure like everybody like you, don't care what state I was in. You know, you shake you or shake everybody's hands. Make sure everybody likes you. You never know when you get to need somebody, you never know. I would I want something I pride myself on is not burning bridges, because you never know when you're gonna have to cross that bridge again, for sure. So things like that to me our port, you know, not even just like talking about like Karma, our color around, but I'm going to believer in like do good get good. So just, you know, understanding life, life skills and applying them in the sport is key. Is Get k everything. But for the young fighters, get involved the game. Definitely, definitely. You know, know that that boxing is bigger than boxing. You know, it's more than just fighting. Is a lot more that goes into it and and that that's why I've been real successfuls because I don't think I'm the most talented or the most skillful the strongest fighter in the game, but I will make money in this sport because of the things I bring to the table outside of fighting. Yeah, for sure. One more boxing question and we'll get some fun questions. What would you be doing if you weren't a prolactor? Or what do you think you doing? No idea that this question. The other day I used to I've said this a few times actually, maybe be youtuber if I were, if I were boxing and I was like in the same mental face that I was, you know, coming out of I sachool. I probably be, probably do something like that. I've always liked envisioned having my own brand, like being my own commodity name for war from boxing. I don't, I wouldn't I saw, I don't, saying I don't dance, I don't got. Don't really know where I would have went. But the more I learned about this social media world where you don't really need to have a skill, but you know you can build, build the brand around yourself, I probably would have done something in the social media world for sure, and I'm trying to do now. The more I learned about it. It's a lot of money in it. There's a lot of money in it, but stories. If you ask my father in high school, you know what's gonna do. High school he was telling everybody that I want to be like a detective. They're all cop and in the reason being, though, was because I used to tell him I was like, I want to be at end of the name. I still like a drug detective in our car ex...

...detective, you know, they like a cop who, you know, studies drugs, and this net the reason why I used to say that is because I used to love the movies bad boys. Yeah, will Smith, and I only love that movie because he had a Ferrari that scene. What he like chases attract the trailer truck, the car trailer on the highways. So I was like in my head, I was like that that that's what in our card does. I'm like, that's what I want to do. I really want to do that, because that was really what that kind of learned that I was stay, I was out of the window. Huhun and I don't know as probably because they know specific business. I just I like building things, I like creating things, and I don't know what the business would have been, something that's my own, like I said, I would that a passion for my own brand, like making myself, building a business around it, whatever it may be. I like creating things. Yeah, for sure. All right, so let's go to some quick jabs. What's your favorite social media platform? In favorite boxer? For sure, favorite boxer, favorite athlete, favorite because I didn't even want I never watch bass, not much basketball, but Michael Jordan, I is always had a thing for Michael Jordan. This simply, I think, because he was like known as the greatest, you know what I mean, like like he had that label as like the greatest, and and I couldn't even have pulled you why? Because I didn't follow like basketball. I don't think I've ever watched a game on Youtube Michael Jordan. I might like highlights things like that, but if I think I've always had the passion of like just being the best, I mean it's I like, I guess why I fell up would so much because he either comes up TB and so people criticize them for it, but I don't criticize him for I'm sorry, I don't blame orize floyd because he is or isn't Tbe. But in mind stay is what I love, you know, saying like I got the same mindset, like I'm going to be the greatest, like I'm going whatever they do, I'm going to make sure I'm the best at it, and that's always been my mindset. So I think that's why I like what I mean. I think my Gol Jordan, was in that. It wasn't a running for that. Actually I said when I when I'm moving, my father bought on first house. My mother packed away in the field where my grandparents in my live. So they helped the care of me, help raise me. My mother passed away and that would let me get a dog be so there's too much work. They take too much main is, you know whenever I'm never home is that you're not going to care. So we bought two cats. I need one of them. I need one of the cats Mikey and the other cats Jordan. It's funny. Jordan still don't adn't want basketball, but I had like every pair of Jordan's when I was a kid. Yeah, for sure. So I guess your opinion would be Mj over Lebron, the being a numbers guy in a sense, you know, as far as knowledge and it's the BACCO as far as numbers go. You know, from what I read. I don't do some research on I'm not, I'm not really a fan, but from what I've seen it looks like Lebron numbers are you're passing, Michael. You know, I don't know. You know, I gotta. I'm also kind of like an underdoor kind of guy and like what people just want. Bugle Jonah can be like, you know, the greatest. I think it is the same way of Floyd actually like they're going to appreciate Lebron after he's gone. Yeah, the same thing when we talk about like Ali. You know, you me talked a lot of Shit. You know, he was a cocky guy and it was people who criticize the fort when he was in, when he was relevant, when he would active. As time passed, he goes down as the greatest ever live, and I think that the same, same, same thing, like happens him or what happened to the front. Appreciate you more when you're gone. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, I mean in Mohammad Ali got recognized for his for being activists. Yeah, after, especially after he passed away, they were talking about it way more. Back to the quick jabs. What's your favorite food? Everything, Bro, but I'm Italian man, so you name it. It's like it. Oh, I got I got a better one. Where's the best? That's the best pizza spot. And Tony Pizza Providence. That you know. Did that be? Have you had New York Pizza or Connecticut Pizza? I had real, like New York Pizza. Now you gotta call it. I like it, though.

Screw Newta, like the top. Yeah, I got it. It's crazy. Yeah, you pet. You never heard of peppies? PEPPI's, Sally's nothing. Oh yeah, so actually they just they just open to peppies and Rhode Island. You'RE gonna have to go they Monday, Monday town. What about your favorite movie, Bad Boys? Boys? Yeah, bad boys, and I think they're rumored that they're making another one. I think it's saw that. Yeah, what about favorite singer, artist? You want to call them anger, singer, rapper or are I guess he wraps an artist, singer, drake. All right, so it's about wraps it up. Is there anything else you want to say or shot out anybody? Thank you, definitely. Thank you. I want to thank everybody who's supported me US far. Definitely, look a here, I'm doing a lot of things outside of boxing. Might see in the video I do my uncle and you do. It's called bigger than boxing and we didn't get too much into it because we're just kind of getting our feet with but my uncle, Alex know, he spent seventeen years in prison for second to Queen Murder and I got you know me, he's uncle with me. I mean he's not literally my uncle. I mean it's three hundred pounds, six foot five, black dude who obviously my cousin, but but he's he's family. He's more family than a lot of my blood family and in when you in prison, you know, he obviously had a lot of time to think buck choices made in life. He made a good one hundred and eighty could one hundred and eighty. got a degree in there, did a lot of work with the kids, a lot of schools come in and he just get a lot of work to use and he carried that, you know, outside of the outside of those outside of that cage we do we're doing together. When we're together we do it. You know, Yell Youth Outreach Program Mom him more than me because, I mean he's just his what he's been through, his life experiences. Obviously I can't even scratch the surface. But why he likes having me part of the team is he doesn't like to tell people, you know, feels wrong for telling people to two things that he wasn't capable of doing. So he likes having me at the table because he's an example of somebody who need all the wrong choices and he can definitely show you the result of that. But me, I'm going to example of someone who's always made the right choice of my life and I think I can show you the results of that. You know, being able to kind of being aligne like make money and, you know, just do good, get good, do bad, get get and get get that. You know I mean, don't wants to spend more than we don't want any time by bars, but let alone seventeen years. You know, that's pretty much my entire life, as you know. So so to get there, were doing a lot of work with the kids, trying to obviously different areas. You know, my top with different things, but from from from gun control to you know, or sorry, gone control, because that's a very touch subject subject. But speaking of if you see a gun, you know, things like that. Obviously drugs, drug use, but even right down to choices around problem. You know what I mean? Every every level, because to me just like business, when I say, you know, businesses all the same. It's might have a different it might be a different type of company, maybe a sports maybe it's coldly, maybe it is whatever. But for me, when it comes to that set of stuff, I don't care. And what when it comes to choices, don't care if it's drugs, guns, gang, violent bullying, it choices to me all the same. It's just got a different face, just like in business us. So we're really we're doing a lot of a lot of work with a lot of schools and I'm excited to see where that can go, because that's that's something that I'm definitely passionate about. Like you ask me what I've done for the boxing. I don't know when I said it's my all time because I don't. I don't enjoy a lot of things. So I don't even like boxing, but the guy, but it's a lovely relations. No quote me at that, but it's not a lot of things that I enjoy. You know, like I have friend of mine like ego, shooting all the time. You look going the range like I don't care. I've been to the right I don't care about going shooting. I don't. I actually basketball and I don't care about playing basketball. I don't. I don't go well, I don't drink, I don't. I don't like going out some bars and clubs. You know, I like thinking up six that's that's like women. You're like women, but but I camera. They can busits of that. I mean not not not a respectable while, but as far as...

...they what I enjoy. I love getting back, I love doing for other people and the stuff we do with the kids. You know, you're some of the some of the things that you know. Kid have tell me about whether you know I would change their life, things like that. I love. I love being able to affect somebody else like it changed your life for the better. So what I do with them I'm definitely I'm super passionate about. I'm super excited to see where it can go. Definitely keep your eye out for what we're going to be doing. Your Michael Closes, is before I was involved instinctive choices. It's just that definitely hits on me because I've always had like a moral compass. You know, its choice. As I mean, we're always instinctive. It was easy for me to pick the right choice. Of people just they don't have them more accomplishing. I mean they do things on impulse. Then they great it later, but it's not clear tone when it choosing it. For me, my nickname being a one, I was like a one choices I picked. Can pick the name a one for uncle Gerald. He called me a one. Was A one. Anthony, my fella. I liked it because I mean what they want. And when you talk about a one, and if you look at the definition is it says, you know, great or well, very well, equipped to the highest standard. You know, would like the definition I saw and I love that. So like making the greatest choice and we want over one choices, and that's why I like I like the nickname for me as a fighter, being clipped to the high standard. Anyone choices. Think of choices, youth outreach, Aunthony Marchella, junior Alex though. We're looking to do great things. I'm looking to do great things in boxing. I'm excited. Take tg sports to the ride with me, for sure. Maybe we could hit up a one sauce for a sponsorship. Perfect. Just guys, you can keep on posting like you're using it on your stuff. That's fact. All right. Well, I appreciate you. Appreciate your time, cool man. Appreciate you for.

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