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Baffmasta | Average To Savage EP151

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This is the one hundred and fifty-first episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring comedian Baffmasta. Paul Guarino talked with Baffmasta discussing how he got started making content, going viral on TikTok, and what's next for his career.

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This podcast interview with Baffmasta was originally recorded on October 7, 2021

...this is the average to savage podcastwith paul Guerrino. Everyone in anyone athletes, celebs andmuch more. What's up? Everybody welcome back to another episode of the averagesavage podcast? Our special guest today is both pasta. He's a content creator,he's a comedian, he's a Tiktoker, he's a Youtuber, You gotta check out hispages. He's hilarious, bafta, appreciate you coming on the show man,I appreciate you having me. Yeah, for sure. Let's just get it started. Umactually the first question I should ask you, do you like the term socialmedia influencer? Uh that's funny. Um I'd rather like,it's become one of those things that's like as you create content, you know,you kind of get used to it, but I don't really, I really don't like like it asmuch. I'd rather I'd rather, I'd rather say I'm a creator, um, entertainer,actor, all the other other labels, but you know, I definitely, I don't, Idon't take it as disrespect if someone like says, oh man, your social media,you know, because I'm like that's, it's still, it's still coming from a goodplace. I'm like, hey, I appreciate it and take it out of me. So no, Yeah, no,I feel you. Um yeah, I don't, I don't think people, I totally get it, but Idon't think people should be like get mad over it. Right. Exactly, exactly.So so I saw like a bunch of your videos and um, things like that, You have likea ton of videos, how do you like your, your, basically your, your acting thanthem. But when you have like a bunch of different like setups and things like,first of all, how long do some of those take, Second of all? Like where dothese ideas come from? So it varies, man. Like, so a lot of the, I'll answerthe, where the ideas come from, some of it is from just like real situationsand we've, you know, me and my team have elaborated or exaggerated thestoryline. Um, a lot of, a lot of like content, you know, comes from meetingpeople are hearing people's stories. And so a lot of this stuff now I'vecreated over, over the last 56 years or whatever has been uh loosely based onreal life experiences and some things just kind of like, okay, I'm gonna justdo a parody of, of artist or somebody that, you know, something that I thinkit's funny or just trending trending ideas. Um, so it varies. Um, but Iwould say like, as far as time wise man, it depends man because there's, there'sa few, there's some concepts that back when I originally started with wouldtake 4 to 6 hours. You know, it, you probably would look at it 30 yearstaking a video and be like, oh, they don't take no time. But I think overtime kind of getting in the groove of things and seem like, okay, this iswhat I need. This is what I don't, um I've kind of cut my time as far as likehow long it takes me to produce? Uh maybe a skit or uh Tiktok or real orwhatever. But I think like from the quickest videos, man, it's because Idon't want to say some, some of them take like Maybe say 2-3 hours to shoot.And if I go edit it might take the same amount of time. But if the video isover a minute And depending on how like cinematic and everything, man, I, Ilike to get in, I like to edit like I like to get in there and start editingand messing with sounds and stuff and visual. So man, a project that may havebeen like a minute. Two minutes might take me like eight hours or 12 hours,depending on how much I really like, you know, want to mess with it. So itall depends. But yeah, it's just one of those things you don't really knowuntil you start messing with the edit as far as how long it's gonna take.Yeah, yeah, definitely. I mess around with some of that stuff sometimes and Isee like cool ones on Tiktok and I'm like, oh, I can do that too. And I'mlike, and I'm just sitting there for like two hours. I'm like a ship, likethis is gonna take, let's take away...

...longer than I thought. Yeah, it's tough.It's tough. I did a lot. I mean I'm sure you did too, just like during thepandemic. So what has that been like? Um just like from a creative standpoint,like I think probably I'm sorry, I'm sure you thought of some ideas that youdidn't think it would have thought of. Like if you weren't just like being athome. Yeah, so with the pandemic man, it kind of, I was I've always been likevery uh like strict on, I would say straight, but I always like one of thethings to be perfect. Like my idea of like what I thought was good for socialmedia is always, it's always the point where I'm like man, if if if I mess upon this or something that people, other people won't notice, I'll look at itand be like man this, this is trash and I can't put it out. And once thepandemic hit a lot of the people as far as having camera people that I couldreach out to and and you know, we have to lock down for a while socialdistancing so crew members and everything, we, we couldn't, wecouldn't operate the same way. So it kind of, it kind of humbled me to makeme be like, you know what? Hey, as long as you can, as long as you can dosomething like put something out at the end of the day, we were in a globalpandemic? Like what what is anybody going to say other than man this guy isstill making content like during all this. So I think with the positive thatI took away during this whole pandemic is like, you know, some of the contentthat I would originally be like, man, you know, that might not be funny or Iwould have, I looked out grade myself a little too hard. I kind of let up alittle bit and I kind of started focusing more on having fun again. So Ithink like we, me and uh, one of my, my friends, his name is choco, we, we didlike a little, we started doing like smaller parodies. Um, and I've neverbeen a fan of Tiktok until, until the pandemic and I was like, man, let meget on Tiktok, let me see what's going on. And I went on Tiktok and I startedseeing like trends and stuff and things. I was like, oh, I don't really, itwould be nice to have a big crew and you know, filled with a bunch of people.But I could actually finesse this and make some other smaller skits and stillstill get engagement from my audience and my fans and stuff like that. So itreally just opened the door for me to be like, hey, you, you can be creativein any situation, you know, so that's, that's pretty much, I think that wasthe benefit I got from, you know, filming and creating during this whole,this whole pandemic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's funny you say that too because Idon't know if you know that uh, your Tiktok, you have the most following outof any social media platform. So you said, did you just start Tiktok like,right, when the pandemic or you had it, you just didn't use it, bro. So it'scrazy because like I think before Tiktok was Tiktok, it was musically andI had, I had, I had an actual like the alias and stuff was already reserved,so I had it, but my actual following, I wasn't using it and it was like, Ithink before the pandemic, I probably had like three or 4000 followers. Andthen, and then like really, I've seen people start using it more and more andI was never, I've never been into like, oh, let me see how many numbers I canget, but I was just kind of like, okay, my friends are on it, I have some ofthe other influencers and content creators. So I really, yeah, my, myfather was like almost, you know, it was very low, it was low thousands andyeah, between March of 2020 and now I grew it um from really, reallyrepurposing some of the old content, I've already, I've already done andthen just like making new content. So it's one of those things too where I'mlike, I've never been with Tiktok. You really got a, yeah, the creative there is creativitythere, but it's a lot, it's a lot to do with trends and so people recreatingtrends and it kind of, it was like one...

...of those things that goes against mynature of, you know, doing stuff outside the box. But I was like, youknow what, This is fun. Like, like right now I'm trying to have fun. So Istarted finding creative ways to like, you know, do Tiktok videos and add myown twist of things. So that, that's, yeah, that's, that's great. I can'tkeep forgetting that has more of my following on Tiktok and not, I'm noteven on there like that. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, the same thing happened tome too because I just started using, I was like, all right. Like everyone'susing it. Like I see the organic growth and then like I just started postinglike the same thing. Like you, I just used old content just like edit it upto, you know, make it, make it like vertical and things like that. And yeah,it's just crazy how like it was so much easier to like grow on their versuslike instagram And um, like what, what you have 300,000 on Tiktok, like whatwas your most like viral video? Like what was your, what was like one ofthem that like hit really crazy and, or like, or like, or give me example tolike what one maybe you didn't think that was gonna hit and a hit. So thereis, um, I did a video as frozen to Chris Brown's go crazy song and, andwhat the thing was, I had done other frozen stuff before and for whateverreason, I don't know if it was just like now where you know, pandemics now,everybody's looking at the phone. But I was like, bro, I know I posted thisalready. I know, but I was like, maybe maybe I did, but I had posted someother previous frozen stuff, um, army dressed as frozen on dancing andeverything. And like when I did this one to Chris Brown's single go crazy.Um, he, he reposted it on my instagram and I, and I, and I didn't like, Iposted on instagram and I posted on Tiktok, so it went viral on instagramand then like, it was probably like a couple of days later, Tiktok, you know,blew it up and that went viral. And then I did another, uh, I did anothervideo dresses frozen to a random song. I don't even remember what it was, butrandom song I found do Tiktok and I was like, okay, it's trending and then thatwent viral as well. Um, And I think I had, I've had some other videos medancing in the 70s outfit. Um, so some of these videos, it's crazy because I'mlike, I post on some of these videos go viral on Tiktok, they don't go viral oninstagram versa. So it's really like the audience, the audience algorithmand all that, you know, just, there's a different reaction on differentplatforms. So, uh, and of course, like as a creator, usually like, you postthe video, sometimes you feel good about video, you're like, oh, this,this is going to be entertaining. A lot of people will like it or, you know,enjoy it. But some of those videos that went viral on Tiktok, um, that didn'teven go around instagram. I was like, oh, I didn't really, I didn't reallyknow like people like this stuff the way they took it, you know, so, um,this is deadly surprising. Yeah. Yeah. It is funny how like the same thinghappened to me just like, not even just like videos, just random content I poston three different channels and like one of them does nothing and one ofthem like blow to all right like that. So it's like, I don't know, I don'tknow, like it's like anything could happen like sometimes, and sometimes Idon't know if it's, I don't know if you think about it this way, it's like,sometimes I make a video or something and I'm like, no, like, I know whichone's gonna go sometimes, right? When I get that feeling too. There's, there's,there's been a few of like if this one, if this one doesn't go like I'm like,yo, somebody's hold me on this bro, like there's been a few that I've justbeen like bro like this this should have popped and and most most of thetime the ones that I actually think are going to be good most of the time toactually do good. But there's been a few where um they didn't they didn'tlike blow up but later on when I re...

...posted it actually caught you knowcaught engagement. I was like man that's crazy. Like so I've I've I'vereposted videos from years ago that I was like man at the time I thought thiswas it, it didn't work and I posted again and you know people are you knowstarted to get engaged on it. So sometimes it's like man you can haveyou can have some fire content but just the way the time of day you know thealgorithm you might you might get screwed engagement. So Yeah definitely.Yeah even with like podcasting like I do these all the time and it's justlike like I can't I don't even look at the numbers anymore because then Likethey just blow up randomly because like maybe something happened with theperson or whatever and then they get searched and then they like see that Iinterviewed them like say I mean obviously have a large following nowbut like you blow up again, you get like $1 million dollars and like it'sgonna go back to this interview and then they're going to check it out moreviewers so it's like crazy, so that's why I don't even trip about like thenumbers with the podcast because it's just like it comes and goes right umAnd then the froze oh thing what what is that? Because I don't I don't knowif it's the same thing but isn't there a guy that runs like isn't it at theAstros game or something or so? So I've seen that, I know you're talking aboutthere's a dude who I think his his character, it's either the freeze, thefreeze, there we go to freeze. So I think they're trademarked, I don't knowif he's trademark to the Astros or 7 11 I saw he was recently in a commercialUm for I think 7-11 slurpees or whatever. Um but the frozen characterand it's like I say frozen because it definitely it's definitely like basedoff of frozen from like Incredibles. But the thing about it is because it'slike I can't I can't choose the face that I was born with. You know, it'slike the people from people from like in my past before like they made Ithink after they made the first one years ago for the first Incredibles hada whole bunch of my homeboys. Like bro you look like the look like thatcharacter, you look like frozen so fast forward whenever they dropped thesecond Incredibles. Um I I was like really reluctant to dressing up in theoutfit, but people were like, people with my colleagues were like, yo youneed to do a video because I guarantee you do this video dancing, do something,it'll go viral. So I ended up doing um I ended up buying the whole suit andeverything and dancing and and that took off and so like fast forward, likeI've been every once in a while, I'll do uh an appearance or do some sort ofvideo incorporating that character, but it's just the fact that I look sosimilar to the anime animated character. Um So right now, me and my team, we'rekind of in, we're basically trying to come up witha different character that will kind of uh still have the same like quoteunquote abilities, ice power and all that, but just to pull away from nothaving to be associated with Disney since that's their whole thing. ButYeah. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I know um likea lot of your videos, you um I don't want to say make fun of, but you likeimitate like growing up with African family, like, have you, have you gotlike backlash from that? Or like a lot of positivity? I've got, I've got more,I definitely got more positivity in the backlash. It's like, it's loosely it'sdefinitely, I exaggerate, you know, as far as the character goes, but it isbased off of real life experiences I'm I'm african, I'm Ghanaian born in theStates, my parents born in uh born in Ghana and so like, even even as far asthe african culture, a lot of uh a lot of other Africans will hit me up and belike bro, that video like man, that...

...reminds me when I was in grade schooland all this. So at times, at times, most of the times I get I get verypositive feedback. There's only been a few times that I can remember. Um welleveryone's while to be somebody that be like, you know, they'll be like, man,like this is this is racist, man, this is not how you portray the Nigerianculture and I'm like, I'm like what? And it will come from, I mean it'salways just a random, you know, a lot of people, you don't know a lot ofpeople that follow you, you just have, you know fans and so, but most of thetime, most of the time it's all positive, all of um just a few times ifI do or I've done videos where I guess, I don't know if it was just because itwas so it went viral that when you get when stuff goes viral, you get allevery audience. So I think the ones that go viral that I've done as anafrican dad character, there's always like a percentage that will be like man,that's not the way real Africans are or and I have to like I used to be thetype of person that would reply to like a lot of these comments and then aftera while I just realized, you know, that that just comes with it. Like it's thepeople that are my fans and my true fans and people follow me. They knowlike there's no like bad intent. Um, it's all company. It's all just to putsmiles on people's faces. So yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. No, definitely. No, it'sjust like obviously everyone in general experience experience is differentthings. Just just like when I watch like I'm italian and I watched like theitalian ones like that and I'm like some of the stuff I can relate to andthen some sort of like, no, that never happened. But like obviously sometimesthat, but that's how it is. Obviously everyone is not exactly the same. Nomatter if you're the same from the same culture race, whatever, right? Um, andthen you talk about like built like you have a team and stuff. So like tell meabout like building that team around you and like finding like the rightfitz. Yeah, it's been, So I've been doing this since 2016 s officially whenI did like made the Bath Master name and I originally just started reallylike I didn't really have, um, like nobody had like I don't have a guide oryou know, figure out like I didn't know how to figure out how did how to getcamera people, how to um how to teach myself how to edit all this stuff. Soum now I've gotten to the point where um I have a couple of different likevideographers and photographers in Houston um that are available to shootum or make time to shoot my content if most of the time um if I'm unable toshoot my own, but most of the time I have them shoot it. Uh and then I havemy manager, um I have a at this point like writing assistant, I basicallyI've gotten to the point where I'm like, okay, I want to do this long term andI've realized that as much as I like to do or would like to do everything I can.So times where like, I would like to focus on building my brand up more andmaking it more professional and presentable. Um I have like, I'll haveto take time from creating and and so over time, I was like, man, I reallygot to find a better way to do this because even as I'm doing all thevideos and stuff, I'm still working, uh I'm still working outside of theentertainment, doing corporate stuff. So right now, yeah, I have likevideographers, I have a manager, creative also have a uh not a creativedirector, but creative strategist. Um uh and just tons of people even call it,say colleagues, but other creators that I work with daily. So it's been one ofthose things where I know you can get you, I can I could do this, but I can'tdo it to the point of as what I'm doing...

...now, if it wasn't for the people thatI'm surrounded with, you know? Yeah, Yeah, for sure that that's a greatpoint that you made to, like, I think like, even like I got to, like, I wasstill doing like I do sports marketing and marketing and things like that, andlike, I still had a job like on the side and was doing my own thing. So Ithink like, that's important to tell people that, like, you know, you stilldo that. Uh and and do that. I think sometimes people are afraid to say that,which I think it's pretty normal to like, man. And it's one of those thingstoo, where eventually, like I'm the type person that eventually I do, Iwant to transition and be like, Okay, I'm out, I'm out of corporate and I'mgoing to do this 100%, you know, to make, to make a living. Um but becauseI know that some I have some skills that allow me to, you know, make incomein other ways, I haven't I haven't got to the point where I'm ready to justsay like, okay, you know what the social media is making enough or doingenough for me to where I can just be like, okay let me stop doing the otherstuff. So it's kind of like one of those things where I take the positiveand the negatives but I do have I do have a lot of friends, entertainers uminfluencers um that will be like bro you need to leave, you gotta go fulltime and when once you put those full time that's when you know you're gonnastart to see and I agree but yeah I'm not at that point yet, I've been on thetype of person where I'm like man you know I gotta I gotta step by step umand I still like to have like multiple other sources of income right nowoutside of social media and entertainment and all that so but yeahI feel you on that man, it's one of those not everybody, a lot of a lot ofpeople that I think the perception is the big perception is like definitelygoing after your dreams going full time in it and I think that's true. I justfeel like there's different ways to do it as well. Yeah. Yeah definitely. LikeI think it's just like you know when I when I quit my job like I like I wasn'tI didn't just out just quit it like randomly one day I got like mad andjust quit. Like I had a plan like I already was planning on doing it likeover months of time and so I'm planning on So I had like ideas of what I wasgonna do, what, what money had I had coming in once I quit and things likethat. Exactly, exactly. So yeah, I think that's why I think it's like aweird stigma when like people, I don't know how to explain it, but it's like aweird thing going on. But yeah, just going uh not into in depth into likethe business side of things um to like obviously you must make money off likethe Youtube side of things, but how else do you do you monetize your videos?So between um you know the Youtube facebook, facebook has monetization orit's been having it for a little bit now to where similar to Youtube videosover a minute. Um you can monetize and for a while I think um facebook wasactually for me like making more income than Youtube. So I really, I reallylike facebook, I think in my opinion, I feel like facebook, uh either they'retrying to get people encouraged to post longer content and stuff, but at thetime I was like, okay, facebook um is also a great stream of income, but inaddition to just making it from the platforms. Um I do a lot of uh I wouldsay like sponsored sponsored media influencer campaigns. Um I would say, let me see, I've done inmy recent or past uh doing things for MTV uh performing at the EMAS those areall like I guess situations where, you know, we get revenue from, but I thinka lot, I think most of the revenue um...

...from social media seems to come fromlike just corporate are not corporate, but companies that reach out andthey're like, hey, you know, we love your videos, can you make a video forus, can you make a video advertising this? Um you know, could you do a video?Um and it will be from like I said, the reference, a silly dance video will belike, man, we really love your character is this, can you do the samething, you know, for this brand, for our cheeseburger or for you know,whatever whatever product they have. So a lot a lot of it um and it wasn'tuntil recently, al Hussein, maybe the last two years before the first coupleof years I've been doing social media, I was making zero money. So I think, Ithink that's another thing that some people may not no, or or may notunderstand, but you know, you might, you might go four or five years justhelp posting content, posting content, you know, trying to really, you know bea creator and you might not start to get recognized until that that timewhen you're like man, I'm about to quit. So it's it's one of those things whereI really didn't start making any sort of income until until right before thepandemic of last year, I was just posting content, growing my account andin my head I was like, well I still got my corporate, my corporate position andeventually hopefully, you know this youtube pops off and other things, butuntil like, until I really was just like, man, whatever, I'm just keepcreating content. That's when all of a sudden these opportunities started toopen up, you know? Yeah, I think that's the way you gotta go, just like bill,just keep on building the following in the community and then he'll eventuallycome. Um and that leads me to my next question, what advice would you give toa young creator? Uh so I would say if if somebody young going, you know,trying to create content, try starting out, I would say men to be to beconsistent. You also got to be a little bit fearless as far as um and I thinkthis is where I messed up when I was creating content um but not really notreally focusing so much on the views of the engagement and the comments becauseeveryone who starts out doing something for the first time, at least mostpeople are not going to be good at it. So um the only thing is like when youput yourself out on social media, like you may not get that same grace fromsomebody that's just watching it. Um watching your account for the firsttime. So it's kind of like having to have a little bit of thick skin and befearless and just be like, okay, you know what I made this piece of content,it may not be the greatest, but I'm gonna put it out because I feel like alot of, a lot of the times where I think I could be growing bigger orfaster, it comes from times where I look at stuff and I say it's notperfect enough or I compare it to somebody else um without really justthinking about, you know, this is me, this is how I do things, you know? Soum yeah, I would say being fearless um being consistent, not, not not gettingin the trap of comparing yourself to others um and then allowing yourself toreally just grow. And uh basically if I feel like if you do all those things,oh and I forgot to mention if you can find something to to post or somesomething that like theme wise that you're, I don't know, maybe you're goodat doing if you think you're good at doing. I feel like if you If you areconsistent with that one thing or make it re occurring, you can grow afollowing or faster because even if you just like if you're the guy who talksabout like trash cans, like as...

...eventually you're gonna grow thatfollowing people that'd be like, man, you know what this guy talks abouttrash cans and I like trash can, so they're gonna come follow you. So ifyou can find a niche where you can like just keep it a recurring thing inaddition to everything else you do. Um, it'll help you like grow a lot quickerthan, than just doing random stuff in my opinion. Yeah. No, I like that. Yeah.Even just like, like I said, I do sports stuff. So like I createdseparate pages for like, you know, each sport and it just does better becausethen you get those people that actually like that sport Instead of like postingall sports on one. But I still do both. But, and the other one, you were sayingthat it just reminded me of the kid on Tiktok that just shows what he eatsevery day. Yeah, I'm just, it's just so funny because I watch them and I'm justlike, like, why do I watch them? But it is just like, and then people challengehim, like eat 7 11 the whole day, eat pizza though. That like, it's prettyfunny. It's social media. So you literally, that's why that's why it'seven funnier when you said, you could literally talk about trash cans everyday and you'll build some kind of like following. Like, I actually, it's funnyyou said that too because I actually do social media for a dumpster company to,uh, which I had to learn about. I had to learn about like dumpsters. I had noidea about dumpsters started doing it, like I feel like we're just in thistime, this timeline where Like so many you just, there's so many possibilitiesand advantages, compared to you know, 10, 20 years ago. So it's it's one ofthose things where I'm like, man, even even when I look at my own content andI'm like, I I know I could be doing more and I know some of the advice Igive, I need to I need to take my own advice so it's way easier to tellpeople what to do and do it yourself. Exactly. Exactly. That's why that's whyI'm like you hire me as a consultant, somebody like tell you what to do,right? Right. But yeah. Oh yeah. Then I also saw like why why don't you usetwitter last social media question by the way to it's really embarrassing man,but I don't understand it. I really and it's not it's not because I'm likebecause I know I I know, I don't know maybe because I don't I haven't takenthe time to really understand it, but I really don't uh I really don'tunderstand how it works as far as I understand the tweets, but as far aslike the re tweeting and everything. It's something that I'm like, man, Ireally gotta pull up a youtube video, like, you know, twitter for dummiesbecause because because of that and I think once when twitter was a thing, umI didn't take any time to get into it and then by the time my friends andcolleagues were in it, I was like man, I'm so behind the curve that you knowwhat, I'm gonna just forget it, I'm gonna just go to the other stuff and Ithink I was the same thing with uh when vine vine was a thing before um and Iwas like man, I was so late in my opinion, I felt like I was late tosocial media, so I was like oh you know what, I'm not gonna mess with that, butyeah, so twitter twitter, like I have a twitter account but I don't know if Imaybe I just don't see the value enough to learn it or it's probably that aswell as like because I know I'm so bad at like retweeting and it's like Idon't understand that, I just don't understand how people post like it'sjust, it's just so different so it's really like an old man syndrome whereI'm like, you know like where you know parents are like man, these computers,I don't know how to send an email bro, I feel like that's that's what that'swhere I'm at with twitter, so but now that you brought it up right now, I'mlike man, you know what I need to get, I need to, I need to learn this thingwe're going back to what we were talking about because sometimes thesame thing happens on twitter because sometimes the video is just like popoff on there too, right? This randomly and you know, and, and that's where I'mlike, because you have so many different tools with social media andyou really can't sleep on any of them...

...because you can get, you can getdiscovered from all these different ways. Even I never, I never reallythought like instagram for instance, um, that will, I am would reach out oninstagram and all of all the places. I was like, man, this is where I justpost content. I post content for fun. And so I get uh people reaching oninstagram. People reaching on facebook, uh people re posting stuff on Tiktok.So I definitely, I definitely agree with like with that. Like twitter,twitter should not be slept on and I feel like, I feel like they'redefinitely community out there. So I'm gonna, after this uh put out myself tolearn and get on there. Yeah, yeah, I think people took notice the other dayand you know, facebook and um instagram got shut down for the day and theneveryone, everyone was on twitter and then, I mean Tiktok, but you have theTiktok, so all right. Uh, but it was funny just to see you like, no, I thinkit's weird sometimes when like, like you have like, because I see peoplethat just have like instagram only and I'm just like, I don't get why youwould do like you got to at least like two of them. Right? And even even thatwith snap with Snapchat because I used to, I used to before it ramped up a lottoo and that's yeah, so I'm like, I'm trying to get back on it because I have,I mean this influence their chat with all the other creators and stuff andlike even they got Snapchat has uh incentive programs, uh, to pay to paycreators and all that. So I was like bro, last time I was on Snapchat, itwas not like this, it was just people were posting stories, but I think wheninstagram took the story, the story setting and put it on, you know, tookit from Snapchat and put it on there. I think I kind of fell off Snapchat aswell. But like these are all like definitely great tools to, to like usebecause yeah, you can, you can, you can, you can pop on one, you know, and getdiscovered on one as well. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I don't know what, Idon't know, don't quote me on this, but I saw this on, on saturday where it'slike, I think it's like each day like the top 10 videos get bonus like bonusmoney and like you could get and you could be in it multiple times. Like Isaw and I was just like, what the heck is that? This is nuts. Yeah. Yeah. Ihad a friend, let me say distant friend. But he made it to the top 10 and Ithink from the text message that he was saying like that he had made over like$10,000 making it on the top 10, I was like okay like that to yourself. So All right, you ready for some funquestions? Yeah. Are you, are you a sports fan man? I say I'm loosely, I'ma cowboys fan. You're in Houston. Yeah bro. Hey, that's it's hard out here,bro. It's hard one of those things to, you know, because I'm originally fromDallas, I lived in Dallas and then I moved out after after college. So yeah,I've been, I get I don't I don't have many friends in the sports industry outhere. What's your, what's your favorite song right now? Yeah. Oh man. That's very man. I'm trying to think myfavorite song right? It's crazy because I do so manyvideos with music, but it's all like old school. Um you know uh what's yourfavorite song right now? Because I'm drawing a blankand I can only think of my video something I'm like I'm thinking on uhlet's see man, we did a the song with Hall and Oates manbecause I can only think about my last video, we did a video with hall ofnotes. Uh Me and my friend Coco and it was uh who is? You know what scratching?I'm gonna say earth, wind and fire. I'm...

...gonna say september and I'm gonna justgo with that because I'm drawing a blank. But like, man, I'm, I'm so whenit comes to music, I really don't um I don't, I don't listen to a lot of thetop trending music really mostly listen to like old school stuff. And I say oldschool, like I'm talking like early 2000's and you know, but but a lot ofthe stuff I'm used to listening to, it's like, like dance stuff that I'mgoing to do with videos with. So I'll be out of the loop until until someoneis like, yo you should do a dance video to this. And then I'm like, okay, letme listen to, let me listen to a trend in hip hop song. But most of the timeI'm like listening to like old school jams. I get, I get disappointedsometimes. Like the tic tac Song is fire. Like the, it's only like, youknow, 10:15 and you listed the whole song, you're like bro. Like it's ruinedit for me bro. Hey man, hey Tiktok, Tiktok is bro. Tiktok and all theseshort form media. It starts, its good and bad because at times it takes awayfrom, well the bad part is like, you know The attention span and you gethype off of 1, 1 part and you're like okay and that song ago trend, but thenyou listen to the whole thing, you're like, well, you know, that was that waswhat it was good for definitely who are like uh maybe say like three creatorsthat you want to do a collab with that. You haven't uh Let me see. So I would like tocollaborate with or or like us or celebrity, whatever, anything man, Iwould say, I'm actually I don't I'm not friendswith this guy, but I would say let me say we're not enemies, but I don'treally know him like that. But there is a creator named Marlon Webb. Uh We'vetalked about doing videos in the past. He has he's been on I mean he's been onsocial media for years, but he's a he does a lot of comedy videos, I feellike he's very creative. Um I'm trying to think who else uh comedians that Iwould like to collaborate with. Uh man, I'd be drawing blanks on names, I'm sogood with Faces. And then when I think of them and I know their names, uhthere's oh there's a there's a comedian actually Craig Robinson uh right afterhe's man, he's so he's really cool. Uh I actually got a chance to meet him. UhHe messaged me personally and during the pandemic, telling me like he was afan of my work and met him, met him later on in the comedy show, but Iwould definitely love to work with him. Um, and then I'm trying to think of when I say workor like, because I mean one of my favorite comedians of all time is Davechappelle. Uh, and hey, we're putting it, we're putting it out there, right.I'm like, I'm like, I'm trying to think, could I even fathom you know, thatwould be ever happening, you know? So, so I'd be like thinking like from a fan,I'm like thinking from a fan base, like I'm like, man, I really, I really, uh,I really liked his work and, and, and, and really my, I know this goes abovethree, but key key and peele their comedy sketches. Uh, man, have me intears. Like if I feel like as far as when it comes to sketch comedy, um,they're like a really great example as far as like, you know, that sort ofplatform and obviously they got accolades on accolades, but I think, Ithink, I think it would be dope too network, collaborate shadow, learn fromany, any of those, any of those people...

Yeah, yeah, definitely. The last one.Um, what are your goals for the next, like you say a year for the next year.Yeah, so I've been, uh, and this is my, one of my goals is like, and I don't know if this would be, Iwould like for it to happen in the year, but like I would like, I, I envisionedBath master, you know, the creator, I envisioned myself not only making like,um longer content. Like I'm really, I'm really trying to get to a place whereI'm making content that is um, in the same realm of like a key and peelesketch with the ridiculousness with the production with the actor is all that.I'm like gearing up for that and I would like within a year from now to bedoing that consistently. Um uh, and so this, this is what I've been working onreally, it's just like, I mean I'm taking, take an acting class becauseeven though, you know, I mean, I don't, I don't think I'm like the best actor,but I know like being on camera, I've gotten comfortable with it, but I knowpersonally that there's things I could be doing better and things are not goodat. So my whole goal is to really get into a place where I'm also auditioningfor tv for film for uh just bigger parts outside of social media. But Ithink, I think realistically when I said when I envision within a year, Ifeel like all the things I'm doing now, I would see myself doing more biggerfilm, bigger short films more consistently on youtube and and eat andeven, um, uh, if not it's not collaborating with with uh more comedicactors. Um, you know, hopefully landing a couple rolls if it's not a big role,small a small role, but I'm really in that trajectory of life, just elevatingmy whole content and my whole acting experience. Yeah, yeah, definitely, no,I feel like that's always the next step for, um, content creators just gettingto like acting. And I think, uh, you know, king batch, yeah, like his comeup was like crazy because I remember just like watching him on likeinstagram and then like, maybe like a year later, I'm like dudes on likenetflix and I was like, what? And I didn't, I didn't even name him uh, justbecause there's so many, there's so many. Yeah, there was like, it wasbecause I would love to work with, but he's definitely like one of the guysare, I'm like, uh, man, yeah, he's a great example. He's gone from fine, Youknow, he's killed on all platforms, you know, he's just similar. But yeah, he'sdefinitely, I've seen him too many times on netflix. But yeah, I feel likehe's definitely a great example of creator, um, have strong actingabilities and he's elevated, uh, to where he's at. But yeah, that's prettymuch where I see myself. Um, you know, I would like to leverage continueleveraging social media. Um, I know it helps when you go into auditions andyou can say like, hey, I got already have a following, I already have peoplethat love to see me. So, you know, if I have a chance to do a good job in thismovie, it will still bring, it will bring more more eyes and everything. SoI'm trying to leverage, I'm trying to leverage everything I have and alsolike work on my craft because I definitely, I definitely don't want tobe a bad actor, definitely. Well, I appreciate you coming on and can dowhat the followers know where the kids can. You let the listeners know wherethey can follow that? Yeah, for sure. Um, you can follow me at on instagramfacebook, um, and tick tock. Uh, and youtube with the alias Bath Master.It's B A F F M A S T A. Um, and I really appreciate uh, the time you haveme on here and, and it's been, it's been great man. So thanks for having me.Yeah, no problem. I can't wait. So, so...

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