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Brandon Coleman | Average to Savage EP159

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This is the one hundred and fifty-ninth episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring the former NFL player Brandon Coleman. Paul Guarino and Aaron Burrell talked with Brandon Coleman discussing his journey to the NFL, how to protect your mental health, and now his journey of being an entrepreneur.   

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This podcast interview with Brandon Coleman was originally recorded on November 17, 2021

...this is the Average to Savage podcast with paul Guerrino, everyone and anyone athletes celebs and much more. What's up everybody. Welcome back to another episode, The average Savage podcast today. Our special guest is Brandon Coleman, I got my co host with me Aaron barrel Aaron, how's it going? Good, how you doing? Good, good Brandon appreciate you coming on, I appreciate it. Thanks for having Brennan. We just want to kind of hop into you know your career first with some uh well started college. I know you went to Rutgers um you got recruited, I was doing I was looking at the timing of when you got recruited to Rutgers, you got there with with luciano and he left. What was that your sophomore year? Yes yeah I would go that was an interesting time, you know you know Sean O'Kane recruited me, he was on you know came to my parents house, he was on the couch and gave us that whole pitch, You know that he was going to stay in the 10 years of his career finish out at Rutgers like a joke paternal almost right and you know just like just like everybody else I believe it and uh committed to Rutgers, not obviously just for him but there was other reasons education networking location, those all played a role in it but then that I never forget that moment when you know we all found out from ESPN that he was leaving and then it was just like wow like this this is a business, right and that was like my first introduction to to business at a collegiate level. Mhm. That's definitely an interesting way to find out via ESPN, but what was the rest of your career like? Uh Rutgers, you know, did you enjoy your time? I know you're Maryland guy being in New Jersey, you're not too far from home. So so the rest of the experience was it was cool man. We had a new coach um that was already in the program, Coach Kyle...

Flood, he came up and it kind of took over as a, you know, that player's coach and rolling for me after that I got injured, had a serious knee injury that kind of set me back. Um and I wasn't, you know, I wasn't the same player since and that kind of set me back in terms of like going to the NFL on my draft grade and but I still had a chance and um I was grateful, but I left Right before Rutgers decided to go and make another business decision to go to the big 10 and my dad had been my redshirt senior year that first season and I made a business decision for myself and saying no, I'm not, I'm not sticking around for that. Yeah, for sure. So we know you went undrafted, but did that did that motivate you more to, to play in the NFL? Yeah, I was already, I've always always had that underdog mentality. So that kind of fell right, align with my personal story and you know, I was like, you know, this is just at the end of the day, this is one of, or better story. I don't know how it's gonna play out now, but I'm here for it. I'm continue to bet on myself and we want to take that, take that leap of faith. Sure, we're big on betting on yourself around here. So, uh, we'll definitely get into some of the post career stuff as well. But now you're in the league, uh, what was it like when you're on the Saints, you're playing with Drew Brees, You know, this is the all time greats. What was that experience like for you? That was a humbling experience to be able to uh, be in the locker room, share locker room with a future Hall of Famer to catch a touchdown pass from a future Hall of Famer, right? And just share that space with all the other, you know, Grace that I played with like Mark and I'm grateful he is able to come back to in the world is now in the show, You know, this, you know, get that Russian title right? It's like, you know, you got the new guys coming in like tomorrow I was able to, to, to play with him, his rookie year. So that's like those are great experiences that you can trade. I wouldn't trade...

...for anything. Um, the relationship that I met got in the locker room, the experiences that I was able to have, getting able to play in London against the dolphins. Like that's, you know, that's an experience as well. Um, and it was all of it and it was, I wouldn't trade it for nothing. It was, you know, a lot of lessons. It was, it was good and bad, right? Because you've got the business side of the political, the political side of the game that, you know, it's not really, it's not really put on tv like that, right? It's not really talked about a lot, but you know, someone like myself who was at the bottom of the totem pole. Um, for the most of his career, it was just kind of like, all right, I got to play this role and in order for me to continue to, you know, have some longevity and a sustainable career. Yeah, no, definitely. I remember, I definitely picked you up on my fantasy team for a couple of weeks though. For sure. I remember, I just hope I didn't let you down. I hope I didn't let you down. Um, but yeah, just like going into another lane, like I know you're a mental health advocate. What, what, what, what is a mental health important to you man? That's a, that's a great question. And for me that's something that I've been, um, I didn't want to admit years ago, I was dealing with that as early as I remember in college I went through my first like, like drought where I couldn't catch a cold as a receiving. And like I remember, um, the, you know, coaches and they recommended me that I talked to a sports psychiatrist and I was immediately turned that down. I was, you know, as as a black man, I didn't allow myself to, you know, to fall into that because it's a stigma that it was, you know, week, right? If you go seek outside help to talk about your mental health, right? That wasn't that wasn't it wasn't cool either, right? And so, and I didn't see people like, you know,...

...you have professional athletes now coming out and talking about it. So I didn't, I didn't have the courage to do it back then. And so I bottled in a lot of that stuff and then that carried over when I got into the league being undrafted. The emotions of not being drafted, right? I was, I remember I was really crying, you know, for not being drafted and I was like, and then I still had to make a decision like within an hour after that not being drafted to go to the wars. But I didn't even, I didn't even get a chance to process, I didn't get a chance to sleep on it and then none of that. All right. So all that's built up and back up. Um, and then, you know dealing with injuries, right? And he really does know you really don't know how much the toll that takes on your mental health until right? It boils over, right? It's opened me that's like at the end of my career that started to boil over and I said, man, I think I really need to uh I need to go see you know, a therapist, right? So I've been seeing a therapist for like the last 22 years pretty much now, and that's been a game changer for me, all the stuff that I've been able to unpack and heal from my mental emotional trauma, right? You can heal, you're from your physical injuries and ailments, you know, all the surgeries actually going through all the concussions that you dealt with, right? And playing a violent game like this, But you put your bodies on the line and you put your mind on the line. So I paint being a mental health advocate for me is so important because I get a chance to use my platform to give that that high school kid the confidence right to to go out and have that courage because they now see someone especially that might look like them to be able to do. All right, I want to seek help for myself, powerful. What do you think people can do more of to protect their mental...

...health. What advice would you give to you? Young brothers, you know, young statistic, whoever may b yeah, I think for me it's really um setting up boundaries for yourself and what that looks like for you personally setting up uh a safe space, a safe space of communication, um, you know, in your circle that you can have open transparent conversations, uncomfortable conversations about something that's, you know, bothering you. Uh, and then, um I said boundaries, that's that safe space and then practice like routines, right? Like for me, I've incorporated mindfulness practices into my uh self care to protect my mental health space. So that's a, that's a part of me on this journey right now that I'm a huge advocate for. Yeah, definitely. Um, and I know you're entrepreneur. Um, you have, you have soul cole and your, your wellness coach, certified breathing coach. So tell us a little bit about that and like what that all means. Yeah. So, uh as I was, once I retired, I realized that I needed to, I needed to uh it was, I was going to have to make a pivot. And that pivot first started off with toothpicks. I don't know, like, you know the listeners who might just catch the audio, they might not, they might not see that. I have a tooth big right now, but that's been my brand For at least 10 years now over 10 years. And so at first as a husband got into a CBD toothpick space and from a holistic standpoint, holistic healing, um, all the surgeries that I went through. I wanted that holistic approach to my process instead of the medication, uh, you know, Vicodin opioids and going down that path. Right? And so that...

...opened my eyes more to the wellness side of things. And then I got into my own journey of you know, self discovery and self care and lead me to mindfulness practices like meditation, like breathing exercises like yoga. And from then I realized, wow, like I see the benefit that this is having for me on my personal journey and making this transition. That's huge transition at the time of my life where you know, I'm I'm pretty much written off um, you know, by everybody else standards. So I said, you know, let me just focus on myself, let me do the inner work that I need and in doing that in the work I realized that and I have a a purpose of helping and serving others. And so so coal is the rebrand of myself. So I call it the rebranded, obviously I'm you know, not too many people can can use that tag, you know, only select your Brandon's if they choose to rebrand themselves. Right? So for me it was, you know, it was something that spoke to me um mind body soul, mind, body spirit and I was already going to be cold anyway, I just dropped to be added so and there we go. So it's an opportunity for me to serve others um, and be um, and be a different, uh, be a different, uh, a different use this platform to be a different representation that a lot of people aren't used to and as well as health and wellness space. Yeah, no, that's a dope. Like, have you been like helping any other NFL players, like have they reached out to you and things like that or any athletes in general? Um, yeah, not in like in my personal circle. Right? So for me doing it myself, other guys have kind of taken notice like in my circle and they kind of asked me like, you know, what's up with this meditation, right? What do you, what,...

...what's this all about? Right? Or this breathing? Right? Kinda just talked me through it and you know, they're more uh receptive to hearing it from someone like me because we walked that same path, right? And it's, it's easier for them to um, it's easier for them to be more receptive to this. Uh, like I said, because you can go on youtube where you can hear about it on instagram. But if you don't resonate it, if it doesn't resonate with you. Um, for whatever reason, then you're, you're not going to be as open minded to it, right? So yeah, I've got, I've got some guys, you know, who are definitely more interested in this because they see someone that, you know, they can relate to that was in the locker room with them on this journey. No, no, no, I know you've you've had a you know, a long journey where uh you've come up through the system now, you're, you know, you're in your second act, what advice would you give to young athletes is a three part question. What advice would you give them to? You know, mentally what if I uh you know physically and advice would you give them in terms of taking care of like this advice, which is I think I can, I can answer all three with with one uh the same advice would just be to set your pounds of um they set your expectations, realistic expectations and continue to prioritize what uh what matters most to you right? I know you know what gets all the glory is the physical aspect. Everybody wants to know how big you are. Everybody wanna know how fast you are. Everybody wants to know how strong you are. Can you lift the whole way from you? You know, run 100 m and nine seconds right? Like that's olympic world time. So people want to know, you know, people only give heightened and and they give attention to that part. But if you, I...

...think the advice is to find balance right, that's true. Wellness is seeking balance in all these different areas and being. We all, we often want to compartmentalize these different parts of our lives and I don't think they intertwined, but they really do right and so understanding how like, like if you're in the weight room, right? And you're wrong, you're maxing out on your bench, press you mentally have to, will yourself to get that weight off your chest. You can physically do it. Like you can only go so far physically, but your mind ends up telling your body that your body can do this, you're in the same way and reverse your mind ends up telling your body that now we can't do this today and you end up not being able to do it right until that ties back into your overall wellness. That, you know, if fluctuate just state of mind, not for sure. And then what are you, what are your goals for 2022 man, 2022 man, I'm, I'm, I'm feeling very excited about uh one golden in particular. I have, I have a project that I'm working on is a meditation mixtape. It's like a BP for example. And I'm in the process of writing and recording that um right now and I definitely want to release that on the top of 2022 and just put a little soul in it, right? You know, change up change up there. The stereotype of how meditation, it's like, oh man, like I can't really get with it. I can't believe, but this isn't for everybody, but you know, I think for, for me and my culture, right? We resonate a lot with music and music speaks to us. So, so I think I'm just add a little flavor in there and put some magic, you know, I've been doing poetry a lot since the pandemic and just turning that poetry into a guided meditation, man. So, and...

...then I think, you know, another goal that I had is to uh lead more workshops, more breathing exercises, more live guided meditations and start, you know, serving as much as I can. I want to be of service as as much as I possibly can to help heal other souls. No, no doubt. Uh quick, I'm gonna just shamelessly plug this if you need somebody to, you know, do a little morgan Freeman voiceover for your for your for your album. I love Yeah. All right. Are you are you going to be singing or you're going to be like talking on it? I'm just I'm just talking All right. I'm just I'm just talking it out at a slow pace, Right? Um you know, I'm just guiding you through a journey, right, telling you a story, getting, you know, getting you in that in that state of mind, relax. I think you'd be good at doing some narrations for like ebooks, audiobooks? Yeah, I'm going to tap into that. I'm definitely wanna shamelessly plugging myself, tap into that space to write. So, whoever's listening to this, you you hear the voice? Yeah, definitely. Uh All right. You ready for some fun questions? Yeah, we're all right. What's your favorite song right now? Favorite song right now? Um, bye. Wes k um, the remix with Justin tim Justin Bieber and towns. All right. That time is of the essence. I mean, I feel like that, that's why my beach for itself. Yeah, that's my jam. Uh, if you could do a jersey swap right now, who would you, who would you swap with? I swat. We're uh, we're Hopkins. Yeah, I'll swap swap with Hopkins. B Hi, I got a lot of respect for his game. You think he's the best right now? That is? Uh, yes. Yes. I'm going to say yes. I think he's the best right now.

All right. Last one. What do you like to do in your free time? Uh, I mean, I got a couple of things. I like, uh, you know, mindfulness activities. I've really got back into to like adult coloring books, doing pandemic, right? Like that's so like peaceful and then takes my mind off of things. Right? I get to express myself that way creatively. And then, um, I like, I like writing poetry. Yeah, yeah, that's dope. Um, well, I definitely appreciate you because I know a previously nobody knows this, but you told us that you were late and you pulled over to Barnes and noble to do the interview. So I definitely want to shout you out for that. We definitely appreciate that. Uh, could you, could you let the listeners know where they can follow you at in uh in your brand, definitely, man. So y'all can follow the brand website is uh www dot so called the brand dot com. And then I g I can follow me at b underscore cold 16 IG would let me change my name, so I gotta stick with that feeling. Yeah, it is what it is that I appreciate you taking the time, man. I appreciate y'all, man, but love okay.

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