Average to Savage
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Brandon Copeland | Average to Savage EP1

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The first episode of the Average to Savage podcast with Paul Guarino. Guarino talked with New York Jets linebacker Brandon Copeland discussing football, social media, real estate, and more. Dedicated to Evan Pittman Powered by Training Mask https://www.trainingmask.com -- PG Sports is a digital sports brand that has been Everywhere & Anywhere since 2011. With a rapidly growing social network, we are dedicated to designing fresh apparel, breaking sports news, and connecting athletes to fans! ---- Follow Us Online Here: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pgsports Facebook: http://facebook.com/pgsportsct Snapchat: http://snapchat.com/add/pgsports Website: https://pg-sports.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/pgsports

This is the average to savage podcast with Paul Greno everyone in anyone, athletes sets and much more. Brandon and I would like to dedicate this podcast to the late Evan Pittman. All Right, guys, I'm here with Brandon Copeland, new linebacker the New York jets brand. How's it going? Yeah, for sure. You're the first guest average to savage podcast, so hopefully I will run you out of business. I don't think so. Now, I'm excited to be on. Thanks and no problem. So let's just jump right into it. Let's sell the listeners a little about yourself. Brandon Copeland, originally from bottomore, Maryland. I went to university Pennsylvania, which is a to be confused with Penn State. How many times people got so excited when they heard in college? You know who. I walk up to him as a college football players here get out of here and now entering into years six, six infel drafted out a pain play with the bottom ravens my first year, second year playing to practice for over the bottomore Ravens and the Tennessee Titans. My first year, two weeks at the squad with the ten to see titans. My second year and then got cut, told I wasn't good enough good I was a scrub. I mean, I'm just being hung joking, but basically that's the way I look at is fired and out of a job for a year. That this being called a vetcombine and had an amazing day...

...at the office. Ran a four five one on. Went from having no office until get on teams in the NFL to having sixteen office all to get a change back into the NFL. The last three years I've been with the Detroit lions and just signed with almost two weeks ago. Where we go now with the New York jet. So we can have ago. So it's for the new chapter. Excited to to play and in this New York City market here. Just looking forward to the opportunity to get back out there on the field, coming off of a peck injury last year. So I'm literally just bowing at the mouth. Just been training and training and training some more, trying to lead the savage, you know. So, yes, we so. Um. So your journey has been like kind of a little roller coach there. So I was going to ask you so one. What was it like? was that like a dream come true to like play for the Ravens for that short time. Yeah, for sure. I mean I was so people that playing with the Ravens was prior to closest I'll ever feel to being drafted, just because playing for your hometown team you get your friends, family and obviously what you're doing where you're at. You have particulars, which is, you know, a blessing indication, but also they've also you know, I don't I'm not the guy that you know it's going to make it seem like a negatively. Also hit you up and embrace the positive parts which you so you make a play in the phone at the game or practice is blown up. You know, it's a beautiful thing to have. Is it was beautiful to be able to share that time, especially being a person of felteam.

You know the team grow up before on Sundays, to walk in the locker to You Jersey hanging in a locker, see that team Jersey hanging in a locker with your last name on the bag and then that, because it's been customized, Jersey that you ordered offline. Anything like that is treating special. It was a great experience for me. Bottimore a great place to start a career, especially because you know in bottimore and known for work at and work habots. You rather come into the NFL and work to tail off, and I mean you. I'm still working my tail up every single day, but the different work ethic and work hat is that I saw around the room from the other guys, from the way you practice and everything like that. That's definitely carry with me throughout my point my NFL Dirney thus far. So it was a blessing. So, yeah, it must have been crazy experience at first. So the other thing I saw that when you were what, you were out of football and then you joined the arena football league and then you got back into NFL. So how did that come about? In like what could you get? What advice would you give to like some players that are like struggling, maybe going to arena football, arena football like the CFL, are trying to get back into the NFL? Yeah, I actually to play arena football with the Orlando creditors and remember blew down and you know, I don't think there's too many players who have grown up dreaming of playing arena football. And you know, I think that you know, hopefully no one takes us effensively because maybe there is somebody to go up getting a player ring football. But, you know, but, but I think for me and my time, it was you know, I wanted to play in a so...

...arena football, Canadian football. I two up for two years a reading football gave me a one year chance to get some film, get some kaping and get one more chance to the NFL. I remembered that January I gave myself one full year to get back into the NFL and if it wasn't meant to be there, then wouldn't happened and now I would move on with my life. So I signed up to play with the random predators. I was down there and literally for three days. The first day I flew down there, move, check into my hotel room, all of this type of stuff. I was waiting on an invite to the veteran combine that I got, but I literally landed. I remember checking into the hotel, bold of my clothes, putting them up in the drawers and everything's just getting ready to be there and go through a training camp with the Pavia. And then email came through and it was a you've been accepted to stay in the ECOMBA and I'm just like wow, that's pretty funny how to happen. So immediately I talked to the GM, who was very understanding. He understood what my big goal was and, you know, I spoke with of US said Hey, man, I really didn't do this to you, but I got this invites his bet combin, and I've been saying in my tail well for this and I know what I can do out there. I don't want to go through a training camp right before it. It was like two weeks out. I didn't want to go to a train can like before and bang the shoulder or bang the elbow or thank he that slows me up from the numbers that I could put up at this combine. So be understood. You know. I stick around with the team for a few days and then, you know, went out to the the combin and the rest has been quote unquote history since then. But it's I guess it's the biggest. You know, I wasn't doing it long. So I'm not going to sit here and I like I know what it's like to be arena football player, but I just know the feeling that I had going down there and meeting the guys and all that type of stuff.

You know, I'm here for my bigger goal and my bigger purpose. You know, obviously it's fun to play football's fun to still be in the sports competitively and stuff like that, but I know a lot of guys are down there and they're just care for their opportunity and, you know, my only advice is continue to do what you do. Don't give up on yourself, obviously, but at the end of the day is making sure that you're willing to do what you need to do on the field to like stick out, and that's one of the biggest things that fell young guys in the NFL as well. It's like, you know, especially on that the guys you trying to make the team, you know, be the defensive line and that can that jumps out there on scout team kick off and show ride the time up to the kickoff, so that you're one of the first ones down the field. Why you probably never be playing, you know, starting to kick off and the team. But if somebody's watching film doing the Front Office with watch the film and they're looking and they see this big Goldie line and then he's like close to one of the first people down the field or second of dirt, that sticks out. That's that's just one thing in their hand, one positive check mark for you in their heads. So the biggest thing is, you know, I think sometimes people go in and say I'm a wide receiver or Pan I'm just going to play then type of thing. When you make it in the NFL you have to stick out on paper and when you're coming from the, quote unquote, bottom rungs, you have to do multiple things to be able to stick out on paper. So just to even get you that first shot, then once you're the any better perform every day. But biggest thing I got to say is, you know, humble yourself and find ways to do multiple things at a high level sort that you can get...

...that shot that you're looking for. Yes, you got you. So going back to the you went to pain. Do guys in the NFL like rag on you for going to Ivy League? Do they like kind of like make fun of you? Now, this is good those, this sort of those. You know, it's respect thing. It's a mutual respect game. was also a badly jokes Jo, you know, saying man didn't go to hear, look around, coaching, all that type of stuff. For you know, you talked about what teams would have done to us, and I was always a lot of time the jokes man blowing out about twenty one or something like that. I'm a dude, went to bad something like that. So sure you're so all the day we recognized for sure there will be a contacting you for a financial advice and stuff like that. I mean I see all your posts. I know so so, yeah, with the New York jets now. So what are you looking to get into? Like, Position Wise, are you going to are you going to be competing for like a starting job, backup job, special teams, all, everything, anything. Yeah, I mean competing for starting word boy. So looking forward to going out there and I think for me I say yeah, I got I said it last year and then to day. I'm a competitor. So I don't show away from from that. You know I'm going there and I'm trying to start at whatever position I can, whatever position at wherever I help the team, that's great and I'm all in and humble enough and would love to do that. But to do like me, who set out lessure, but I said I'm home at the mouth or opportunity. But I'm also wanted the ultimate competitors.

So at the end of the day, I'm going in there to start. Anything less than that is failer in my book. Might not be failure other people's books, but anything much, and I'll go you, is failure in my book. So at the end of the day, whatever I can do to help the keys is is. We're looking forward to making an impact on the field, God will, and that will be on Sundays, you know, lineing up in outside back or, you know, also special teams and wherever I need to be, and then just being a problem to if they word quarterback. So, like I said, I'm going in there as the focused and lock the loaded and ready to ready to make an impact. So so one have you moved into somewhere around New York and too, is it going to be exciting again to be playing closer to home? Yeah, maybe that would be, since actually punny my wife and to the jure anybody here and a half of she works in the city and she's from New Jersey. So fortunately, you know, the way works is beautiful. Everything coming for circle this year's we you know, not too far from the facilities at this point. So I'm already homes pretty luckys. So many layers to have this being worked out perfectly. So, you know, just add another layer level of excitement. And her family, you know, obviously going to be chaged weekend and weekd out. Is a lot different difficult things going two thousand and forty thirty three hours of the road to check out, you know,...

...son something, brother, cousin, etce, nephew play a game. So I'm excited for it. I'm very excited. At this point in my career. I'm vettering and excited, like I said, this new shacket. Very excited for my family and also enjoy this chapter as well. So, yeah, by the way, congrats, are getting married this summer. I meant just past follow me and did your wife Robber jets fan? No, no, that's a great question. I fotball, basketball, basketball. Now I guess she's just now. All right, so now we'll get into some more fun questions and semi non football. So so I know I know you're, I'd say, in between with social media. I say you post like in the middle, like the solid amount. You're not like I know you're not against it. So I just wanted to hear your take on social media with athletes, and now I mean it's pretty much everyone's tweeting and stuff, politicians, everybody. So I just want to hear you're taking social media. So I think that's biggest battle with it. Myself, is social media cannously enhance your brand, put in your pocket. It's another leg of free market exactly.

But I think they also, you know, it kind of also there's a social media. There's also the negative with social media, forsitive everything in finally, and right balance, I think that, you know, sometimes the negatives of it are people being, quote unquote, slaves to social media, slaves to like slaves mentally to you know, how many postings to do. You know, one of the things I'm always I'm always thinking about trying to do more, but I just can't bring myself to doing certain things for the camera and stuff, you know, like whether it's even if such something as simple as me working out to day and, you know, adding it to my story and always pouring out my camera before setting all that type of that's not on. Anybody that doesn't like you can do it. That's great, but for me, my pincer zone, I really can. So, like I said, I think that social media is great. It has a lot of power to to connect people, along with connecting things. To athletes. The biggest issue as well those you know, you just got to keep your mental and check, because that even a day, like I said, it has some negatives and you if you get caught in a bad moment or impulsive, impulsive moment, you can also say the wrong thing, like some like they say, or the quote says. You know it takes forever to build, you know, a legacy or name, and you know it takes a second to totally that track and attract from all that completely. But ch quote snap. I mean, just like anything in life, I think everything has pros and cons to it. But about social media, yeah, I mean...

I love socal mead. If I didn't have social media, then PG sports want to be you a PG sports is today and I want to be talking to you right now. are either. Yeah. So, I mean, if you really think about it, kind of crazy that. Look, before twitter, no one, no one, no athletes, were like on social media engaging with fans, and so I think it's a great thing for that. Well, was obviously for like Paparazzi and like people like kind of like ratting people out, like the other day when the clip came out of like Odell getting like punch at the club. I don't know if it was really him or not. Still, but like that's just like it just sucks, sucks for people that just can't like you guys, can't go out and enjoy yourself. I supposedly it could have been so it's even some other guy with blond here and so, yeah, so, and then another thing that I'll really like about you is the understanding of that they're there's life after football and you're still like young and you could still do stuff. Like I know a lot of people have trouble with like transitioning from football to like regular life. So and I know that you. I seen that you had the article where you were working on Wall Street and stuff, and obviously your kind of different since what Ivy League? But I mean obviously all these other players want to college suit. Like why do you get it versus like some other people? I just don't get it. Yeah, I mean I think it's number of different things. I think a lot of guys, a lot more guys, quote unquote, get it. Now, I think I've never tell people that...

...it's wrong to not focus in on football, because football is one of those things where, if you do it right, you know to make so much money in such a short standard time that, if you do it right, you literally and you pour yourself into it the right way, so that but if you if you capitalize on to make the plays you can make, you can, you know, really create a multi million dollar industry brand name in your personal will. For me, what that what I always kind of think of is, at the end of the day, just because I'm doing step off the fit and people look at that as distracted. Some people look at that is like, and that's why I said I won't say the word poor myself into football, because I'm clearly, you know, other beliefs, that I'm pouring myself in the football as much as I can. But however, at the end of the day, like, like I've worked out six, seven hours today, but I still have a plenty of time to do something else. So instead of me, you know, sleep in the rest of the day or planting video game, which is nothing against video games, there's some times where I get my maddy streets and I'm playing guys man and stuff like that. But but at the end of day I also know that there's other things that I can be doing that can get interest me, you know, just general interest hobbies. It's also stuff that like, I know we've got a bit football was over for me tomorrow. I'll be bored as hell the rest of my life if I didn't have nothing else to do, you know. So it's looking I use, how can I use this platform now to set up the life that I want for myself and my family get for the rest of their lives, you know, for our lives together and type...

...of thing, you know, and that's that's I get the difference, Sy but the system now, I was going to say better watch out heating on the UMERS now, because I don't know if you've seen that Guy Ninjay. He's making like a half a million a month now on twitter. I mean, I mean the esports industry all suff rolling like crazy. See a bunch of players jumping on home now and and you know, it's it's a beautiful thing and getting wrong. Yeah, it's funny because obviously say yeah, you know that, and that's great. I just you know, my biggest thing is I'm just always trying to I've always been interested in entrepreneurship. I always been interested in on my own so, while I have this platform, while I can, quote unquote, do a bit of trial and the air without necessarily feeling it as quote unquote, hard in the pockets, you know I'm gonna go ahead and do that. And you know, for a real life example, I used to always be of the belief, ignorantly, and I'm going to truly say there's I was of like, Oh, you know, you get what you put into it, you work hard and you can make whatever you want happen. Happens on the day. But now I'm after a year of my wife and I started to real estate companies want, parentals want for flips. After years doing that, now I'm truly of the belief like, it takes money to make money. So, and the reason why I say that is because there's a lot of stuff that you'll come across while you're learning how to do something that if you don't have the pocket or the financial backing to kind of alleviate that issue, then you'll never you know, you'll never actually be able to get off the ground and withstand, you know,...

...the little mishaps that occur as you're trying to start something special. Right. So that's that's one thing. The one of the biggest lessons, you know, and slices of humble pie that we had this year. Bulk the beauty is God is blused us with a primary income and we're trying to do this and build this this thing off the field per second day income. So it's a lot easier to for us to manage and maneuver stuff while we're not financially dependent on this to work. You know, like I have houses that are under contract now and it's like, you know, or houses and to that are on the market now. Like, at the end of the day, it's like, if that was all my money was tied up and do it, then it's a totally different story versus. You know, and I'm really fighting my nails. Wanted to show me, I wanted to sell them by my nurses, because I'm a competitor and I love it. You know, I love what I do and I love the different hats that I wear, but at the end of the day, if all of my sayings and and you know, we couldn't pay our bills until these things were sold. You know, my conversations with my realtors, contractors, everyone will be a lot different. Id Be operations on a place of stress rather than the place of learning understanding. Its a little bit of stress, you know, and so you know, I know it's kind of really asked for all that, but just kind of jump up a little knowledge might get might have a little third thing for you. Could start a little Vlog of you and your wife flipping houses and stuff, right, Vloody, all these? Yeah, why not? So another I got a random question for you and then I got one. I got two more last ones and then we're done. So how do you feel about what lave our ball and big baller brand are doing? Awesome.

I don't personality. I'm really talking more about like them free in the brand and stuff like that. But yeah, no, no, no, when necessarily you love a personality. Some people are, but I think it's also a marketing just sell, you know, a gimmick. Some of the barball you know, I don't think he believes has there. You know, at the end of the day I respect the Hustle, I respect the entrepreneur shift the empire building and there's for me, I'm always trying to learn from people. So there's I'm sure there's plenty of lessons I can take from him and how doing. It might not be how I would actually do but it's still a lesson. Whether you know what you look at something like I'm talking about brother the other day, you know whether there's certain things that I've done in my life and I've just done them just to, quote unquote, figure out whether I didn't ever want to do them again or not. You know, I'm talking about internships and jobs and all that type of stuff. There's certain things that you do just to kind of cross up your list and that's a quote unquote lessons that I'm talking about, you know, and so I completely respected. I'm always looking at guys. I haven't forget about ball interviews at all, but I watch a lot of people's name views and stuff and just kind of see how they think. Jay Z, Kevin Hart were embusting guys just from all different walks of life and stuff, and I really take a lik into respect people who are just out of how her husband, you know, and it doesn't matter what would level your husband that, but I'll hear just just trying to put it together and and create something special and really...

...the one thing I do value and like about him is the fact that he's not putting limitations on itself. You know one who when we grow up, we get older, we get more cynical, we get more you know, that's Fart because so I can't really do this or all. You know, they did that Disney imagination. But if we keep that we can we beat pretty surprised about how much we actually are able to accomplish. A lot of people kind of kill their own dreams, you know, hands before they even like get a chance to fill them out a bit, just because they kind of talk themselves out of it. So I really respect the fact of what he's trying to do, any of what he is trying to do and accomplish, for sure. I mean I in my head I gave him a marketing man of the year. Two thousand and seventeen deserve that and I see like I really like it, obviously because I started pg sports and stuff, so I kind of see similar to like what I did, but obviously they're on a whole other scale of obviously three boys and potentially to be an NBA. So anyways, my last question was or no, actually, so while you're talking about the bar, I forgot that I actually made you know how he was on the practice squard for the jets right. So he was. So I made a shirt in the New York jets on it just as New York. So I don't get copyright, you know. So just says New York right, but the ninety nine, but the the ball on the back. So I'M gonna have to send you one of those, maybe to rocket the first day camp. I think that would be actually really funny. And if someone like I'm obviously I think he was still be in the spotlight in a couple months. So I think people still get it right. So I pulled...

I just I just put it. I just put two and two together because I have it on my store and stuff and everything. But anyways, so yeah, I'm trying to like wrap things up. Want to know if you want to shout out anybody, and good luck on the season. Thank you, but I appreciate you first episode, Good Luck and all that stuff, and I want to shout out woody for putting this together.

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