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Buster Scher | Average to Savage EP79

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This is the seventy-ninth episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring entrepreneur, podcaster, founder of Hoops Nation Buster Scher. Paul Guarino talked with Buster Scher discussing why he started Hoops Nation, his thoughts on social media, and his reasons why he didn't go to college. Follow Buster Scher https://www.instagram.com/Buster Powered by CBD for Life Use the code Savage20 for 20% off at https://www.cbdforlife.us

... selebs and much more. Today's episode is powered by CBD for life. Whichever CBD products you need and want, CBD for life has him from rubs to oils. I personally use the products from CBD for life and I love them. Check them out at CBD for Life Dot us. Use a Promo Code savage twenty four. Twenty percent off your purchase. Again, that's CBD for Life Dot us. So up, everybody. I'm back for another episode of the average. That was podcast or special guests? Today's buster, share buster. How's it going, good man, thank you for having me. Yeah, appreciate you coming on. So let's just jump right into it. How'd you come up with hoops nation? Hoops nation came to be because I was a huge fantasy basketball fan and I saw that the coverage that fantasy football is getting, but I never, I never saw any equivalent coverage on fantasy basketball. So naive fourteen fifteen year old me decided that I was gonna, you know, do it if nobody else was. So I kind of started doing that and then merged into a couple different forms originally back then on facebook and and on my own website and then and then I decided to broaden it out to all levels of basketball and actually covering basketball, and that's kind of you're a couple more iterations. How hoops nation came to be got out and I I did some research and I saw that you said your big baseball fan growing up. So why did you pick basketball or baseball like start of paid? Yeah, I mean I think you know, the older you get, the older I got, the slower the game, the baseball, yeah, seemed to be. And basketball is just such a I mean you know, as you know, it's such an entertain and quick pace. You know, high intensity, eighty two games on a hundred and sixty two. You know, m game with some of the coolest athletes in the world's and the biggest brands, personal brands in the world, and you know, indoor during the winter. I just love basketball and everything about it, as well as the fact that the NBA is super, super accepting from a right stempoint, which is how people like myself, you and exist. Gosh, you got. Yeah, yeah, and they'lb. I know had some issues at the beginning of the season and stuff like that. Actually, it was funny that you just said about the baseball just being slow, because I was just listen to a podcast. It was CC's abatist podcast, and he was just like man, I like watching the games like from the Dugout, but I just can't watch it on TV. Yeah, it's too slow because brutal. It's a great came to go to, though. I love going to baseball games. I was just that bunch of the Yankees playoff games. Unfortunate they didn't make it, but you know, it's a great sport to go to and but you know then again, like it's all right if you miss a couple of inags, which is sad it because in basketball nobody has ever said, Oh yeah, you missed a quarter, no problem, miss the third quarter, miss the fourth quarter, nobody ever says that. So you know, basketball definitely has the upper hand to baseball on that. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Actually, I remember seeing something last year. Maybe, and I don't think they were came through with it, but and be was saying they we're going to start selling like a package that you could just watch like the fourth quarter of a game. Yeah, I think they do that and they do it by half quarters to I think, by like five minute packages. So yeah, here, if you're like tuning in at the at the five and in the fourth quarter mark, that I'm going to pick. Make you pay for a full game, let alone a full quarter the final five minutes, which is smart. Yeah, sorry, definitely for sure. I mean it's smart too if you don't, I mean if you're not, obviously you only have your local game. So that's another reason why people would get it too. Yeah, for sure, although lead pass is probably the investment to make it that point you're paying for games. Yeah, for sure. I'm not going back to the HOOPS nation. What year was it that you started...

...it? Well, I started a site called fantasy basketball community in two thousand and fourteen and then I started a site called all nba all day, and then I was help them out with a bunch of difference. Just then I decided I wanted to make all in Gail Day more similar to so hoops nation two thousand and sixteen. In the two thousand and sixteen got it while doing the website. That's you. Were you writing like blogs and stuff? Yeah, and I'm a terrible writer or two. That's the funny part. It is really bad, but you know, slowly got better at it. That's all. Gotcha. And like how have you over the past foods, I guess three for almost four years now. What have you been growing? How did you grow the Instagram page? Almost a million followers. Yeah, so I really like I said, I started on facebook and then I went to snapchat. So I built the snap that audience before I did instagram and I can come to instagram till end of two thousand and seventeen. And you know, it's just about consistency. Like they're probably twenty four, twenty threezero posts on the page. So that's how, you know, just real consistency over it, over the course of years is how anybody builds anything. Now. Yeah, for sure. And how many? How many like post a day do you do? You said a number for yourself. I mean, you know, in an ideal world I'm posting like twenty good posts today, but let's say twenty threezero divided by studing the math you quick. Twenty two thousand divided by three hundred and sixty five times three, let's say. Yeah, man, it's a lot of posts, a lot of perfect day. Yeah, are you planning those out? Like the day before or how do you how do you go about planning it? I mean, I'm on my phone probably ten hours a day and a lot of stuff comes through my phone, whether it's text messaging DM's or just seeing stuff or having ideas for stuff and then going out and getting a designer to create a form. You're creating it myself for video editing other projects. Are you had campaigns? You know, they usually I never don't have enough. I'll just put it like that, just because of the amount of time I'm immersed in it. You know. Yeah, and like what about? What's your what's your thoughts on like the Instagram, like changing their algorithm all time? You know, it's always going to happen. I believe in Instagram in the long term, so I've no problem with it. You know, goes up and down and for me it all fluctuates around the NBA season. So it doesn't even yeah, I think the effect of the Algorithm has so much of a less significant impact on me and my pages than a fly of less significant impact on the in my page. Is Then, you know, just the fact that the NBA season is on or off and has yeah, so obviously it's hot when it's on. Yes, and then you're how old are you right now? Nineteen, unders turned nineteen, so you're nineteen. So what are what are your thoughts? I know you you didn't go to college, right, correct. So what's your thoughts on like college and kids not going to college? Yeah, I think. I think the only like a lot of people go to college because they don't know what they want to do and they don't think they could, you know, support themselves outside of it, which I understand, because it is like this preconceived nation that you can't work for a lot of people if you don't have a degree, and I get it, like you probably can get a job most places you want to work without a degree, unless you're working for yourself, which is very difficult to do and acquires a lot of dedication, which it's impossible that everybody has that right. But my my true belief on college is if you're if you're going to college to master a skill that you you need that skill for what you do, like being a doctor or lawyer, whatever it is that you need to know the law, you need to know where to put the knife in, like the thing, the person to perform the surgery, acculate like that's something you need to know. But to become a journalist, do you really have to sit down in a...

...class and hear somebody lecture, or should you be going to the Games yourself and writing about them and meeting other people that do it professionally instead of people that teach it because they can't do a professional that's where I've always stood on it, you know. So I'm not a believer in college for kids like myself, but for for people that, you know, really see the value, obviously, like top having the schools or what not. I get it. The network is great and the experience is great, but for Seventyzero dollars a year or whatever you're paying, you know, and you don't need that skill set to perform your job, you might as well, in my opinion, probably your passion and do it a younger age when you have an advantage, because people are going to want to help you more because of your age and they just, you know, if you're doing something honestly and authentically. I think people like that. So that's really, really good. It all comes down to you's got to know yourself, though. The any day you I don't know if you can do it or not. Yeah, I mean I went to college and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm on your side with people not going to college side, I mean if you want to be like a doctor, lawyer, like you said, but I think it's the same thing. Like, actually, I was just talking this kid that was making some graphics for me and I'm just like, your graphics are good enough. I see another guy that's does like the NBA ones. I'm like, gears are good or just as good as his or better, and I'm just like he's talking about going to college and I was just like, Bro, you could just go get an internship somewhere and just work your way up from there, like or something like that. Hundred percent free, hundred percent if you have the talent. I believe in talent more than anything. Yeah, because you can have a degree and be fooling less like you. You can have zero skills and a degree, and I will take the person with skills and no degree over you onezero out of one thousand times in the long term. Yeah. So it's funny too, because my one of my good friends a nurse and he saw I posted every post like the Christian all over and all the thing, like he made like, I don't know, forty million dollars on the field and like forty three million dollars in social media, like a doing that stuff, and then then he was like now he now he like gets it, because he was like, you know, that was like a dope post ball ball, like because now they saw her, not a curse y'all were. And although like making money now, he was like, Oh yeah, like you could make some money off thocial media. I'm like yeah, like I've been telling you that, but all right, whatever out. Yeah, I'll take it. They need to see like they need to see somebody that they know big care and then it clicks. But, you know, like it. As far as the college thing goes, I mean I think in general of the landscape is shifting towards kind of how we think, but still is a long way to go. Yeah, for sure. I think I don't know how many years it's going to be, but I think college is going to decrease like dramatically eventually. Yeah, I think most of them are going to go out of business. Yeah, yeah, it's going to be. I don't know it's going to be. It's going to I think in like like the next I don't know, twenty to fifty years is going to be pretty interesting. Pump broke because, like for me, I was the only person in my high school graduating class, out of five hundred and fifty, not to go to college. Okay, I apply. So it's like I'm just so pumped for that. To be happy to me to be right on that. Wait, how many? How many was it? What was the number again? It's like five hundred and fifty and know who? How many didn't go to or how many went to college? Five hundred and forty nine. Oh, that's crazy. And and it was. Well, they're not really doing anything yet because they're just freshman right for flirting's now, but a lot of them are. Most mass majority of them are smarter than I am. But you know, a lot of them spend their nights and weekends partying. Yeah, whereas I don't drink, smoke, party, yeah, anything. So you know, I mean a lot of them are going to do great things out. I'm pump time to see and support that. Now. You made the red decision. I had to pay my student loans every month and I just think about well, I made great friends,...

...so that's how I have great connections from it. That's that's a great justification as well, like the network and colleges. That's one of the reasons I would like, love to like. That's why I like going to college. Is just writing around friends and stuff. I was about to see. You just go there. You just got up, you can just go. You just go to college, like I think you could probably sneak into classes and just be just just to check them out. They won't know, they won't know what I like doing. There is I like like I was in I was in New Orleans, and I think it was more February and March this year for Marty Grah and I went to it to Larn Frat Party, and I don't drink or anything, so as I I do, I have fun here. So I djed three hundred person to Larne FRAT party. That's like, that's my kind of networking. So that's definitely funny. There you go. Yeah, I mean, I mean, yeah, it's kind of crazy too, because I mean the only thing that I think about now is like when I say I look at my store and see store like on my personal page and I'm just like, Oh, like, not that many people from home, like I'm are checking my stuff. I's mostly like people I went to college with. So then that that's when I put into perspective. Ill, like college, but still overall, if I knew what I knew now, I probably wouldn't went to college and just liken entrepreneurship stuff. Super Interesting. Yeah, pretty pretty much. But I mean it was also a different I'm twenty seven, so in two thousand and Twe it was just yeah, I mean it was just different. It wasn't like still snapperend social media. Wasn't he like senior year I had a I think it was called like new digital marketing, like in that was this social media question. It was a it was like a seven year old guy teaching it and he did know. I think what was going to think if I, if I was your age, I would have gone to college to a hundred percent. Yeah, there's nor doubt I would. If honestly, if I was three years older than I am, I would have gone to college. Yeah, yeah, I feel you. Yeah, it's cre I mean that's why it's crazy too, because like even like, all right, this is going to be even funnier to you because, like so in college, when I was in college, we didn't like DM's weren't even a thing get like on instagram. They didn't have bath so like it would have been reckless, like college even reckless with DM's, like I came in. Imagine like snapchat was like the big thing at like senior year, I think, for me. Oh, you had you guys. Do you guys got snapchat? Seen Year? Yeah, but I don't think you could message people off it. I think it was or there wasn't stories either yet. So what was it? You just sent? You just send snapchats back to it and fourth to each other. That's so old. That's the that was the whole concept back then. You just center crazy. Is that crazy? And there was a yeah, there's no DMS on instagram. I remember. I remember this girl told me about instagram and I was like, why the hell would I get instagram? I don't take pictures. Now I got like thirteenzero pictures on the huff. I remember when there were no videos on instagram. Yeah, yeah, that's no videos, and even when they added videos, there were there's no such thing as views. Is just likes. Yeah, and now they completely flipped that. That's how it's good. They should do actually that this could be a good marketing. I don't know why. I just thought about it. They should do like an actual throwback Thursday your phone gets updated in your instagram is just like the old two thousand, like eleven version. I think there's too much money on the line from advertise. Yeah, too much money. That would affect yeah, true, true, true, or something like. I don't know. I don't know. You probably remember, like I don't know how many months ago, was in like instagram was down for like I don't know, like Oh, down a majority of the day and everyone was like freaking out and then it happened again and then I was like I always tell people like get on, you got to get on, just gotta just as a brand, you just should be on at least like Instagram, twitter and facebook. That's what I meant. You've got to diversify. Yeah, always. So that's why I was funny. I was like twitters, like cot right...

...now, because instagram was down. So that's why it's always funny. But all right, back to so what is your long term goal going deep now? Long Term Goal? It's just a build personal brand. Like you said, just diversify and build real, real depth with anybody that cares about who I am or what I do and do right by all those people for the next couple years and then see where that leads. But really just like creating my own stuff, like, you know, having fun, like like the podcast I host and, you know, the shows that our host and that it's going to run in my socials. So really just doing right by people. That's that's my goal. All right. And when did you? When did you start your podcast? We started march. We started march. First one came out and afls every Tuesday. It's going on fun Yahu. So being a podcast for myself, obviously. Like what's your process of like reaching out to people? Do like doing the real preparing for the interview, like so I'm super weird in that sense. I don't have her prepare and I if I know, like I'll just ask people that I know personally that I'm interested in and think would be a good fit for kind of a vibe of the podcast. So I'll just ask them directly in person easily, and I set it up and do it. But I don't, I don't prep at all because I just want, I want to come in. I'll think about them beforehand, always, like the night before on my way to the podcast and thank before we start I'll be thinking about kind of the topics that I want to go through, but I think researching it gets in the way because then I'm thinking about what I'm going to hit and miss instead of actually being present. And if you're present in an interview, it doesn't feel like an interview together person. Yeah, yeah, definitely feel you. Yeah, I've done it a number of different ways like that. I actually my first one I did like literally nothing, and then so actually, sometime, most of the time, when I don't write down questions, then they come out longer and better somehow. So that's kind of weird, but I don't know why. Maybe I just think of something more while I'm thinking, like thinking while they're talking about the question. Yeah, for sure, and everybody's process is different to that's just mine because I'm like super add and dyslexic and whatnot. So everything else gets in my way. Gotcha. Yeah, and even like one person story that I knew like a lot about. Like that was probably one of my worst shows because, like I was assuming in my head that people already knew the story and I wasn't asked right the right question. So like leg to myself. That happens too. Yeah, so that was a bummer on my end. I guess you'd say, yeah, that can happen. Hundred percent. I feel that. What about who? Who? Who has been your like your favorite guests so far? Favorite? Guess I really pick favorites. But Victor Cruz is cool. I really like the one that comes out next Tuesday with a chase be Javascott's DJ chases the man. I don't chase for a while, so it's really fun to finally get him in. But yeah, we we're only planning, I do like forty minutes and then we ended up going NB. I think it's like our second longest podcast. So there's a lot of fun and covered a lot of ground on it. Yeah, yeah, it's so. That's definitely that's definitely different to Travis Scotch D DJ. Yeah, super different. Not An athlete. Yeah, now, I like that. You're yeah, so you're yeah, you're trying to get like anybody, right, entrepreneurs, athletes, celebrities? Right, YEP, everybody, everybody, anybody that's has some sports connection, sports fandom. That is interesting. You know, even if not like if the if they overcompensate on the interesting front. Accept it. Here it's like cool people, mammer, so good energy for sure. Well, what advice would you...

...give to a young entrepreneur? Advice to your entrepreneur would be one thousand four hundred and eighteen is are the best years in your life because you've no overhead for business and you might have like other like time requirements, but I think there's a lot of that. You can be more fishing on and and Allcute, a lot more time to actually being started in business and getting real experience, and that's when you can work for free because you've no overhead, depending on the situation, but most fourteen eighteen yeards having overhead. So I really think that's just like the time to double down instead of like think about the future. You know, how does all come about for you at such a young age? I just like doing it, that's all. That's the only way it could come about. I didn't like doing it a would I'm done it, but I enjoyed doing it. I still enjoy doing it. Saying it's really really as simple as that, I think. But I'm saying like most eighteen year olds aren't really thinking about like their future and like doing stuff that they actually like doing and they're just like just well, I shouldn't even say playing video games anymore because I can make a business off that. But they're not thinking like business mindsets. So I count like what, like, what was the spark that you were like you I want to make this into a business and I want to pursue this and like not go to college and stuff like that. I think you know, just the size just growing over time. You know that that kind of turned itself into a business and then, once I realize that it was serious, obviously filing all the legal corporation and whatnot got you. You want to do some NBA predictions for the year? For the year, I got the clippers in the finals, I got Steph crew winning MVP, I got the knicksmaging the finals, and I have and I yeah, that's that. About about rookie of the year, screen of the year? I like Tyler. Hero. Like tyler a lot. All right, I like tyler a lot. I think Zion, if Zion plays enough games, while win because he's a better player. But I like Tyler. What about? What about John Morant? I've never been so hot on jaw from like a superstar standpoint, but really good player. He was great in college too. I'm super interested to see how he plays at the League level. All right, I'll take it all. Are you ready for some fun questions? Are gonna go from average to savage. Yeah, let's do it. All right. That what's your what's your favorite Song Right now? I was just listening to Kanye's new album, Jesus King. Oh, came out? Yeah, just came out last night. Oh Shit. Yes, I was just listening to before this. That's a herod album right now. But favorite song overall probably star gazing by Travis Right. I like that. It's good song. All right. Top top five favorite past well players all time? Top five favorite like growing up, for me it was Daniela, going Ari, like David Lee, Carmelo, anthony, Tyson Chandler and date Robinson all next always I didn't like anybody else. And then, overall, you know the guys that I appreciate. Obviously the bronze the top of the list. Yeah, Katy, Steph Curry, change the game, D Wade, there's so many guys that I just appreciate. Kobe was one of favorite players still. He's top five people I want on my podcast one day. So Kobe's up there. Yeah, you just answered my next question, which was what your dream interview? Obama? Obama. All right, he's he's he's been my number one for six months. I think I've a I have a master master list of everyone that I want on and I when I...

...get him on, I just like delete it in the next person size up in place. But Obama has been number one for a for a hot minute. Just want to talk groups with them. That's all we literally, that's that's all. I would do a talk basketball with them for an hour. That's it. Is there any in particular question that you're going to ask them? Nope, nothing, just want I just wanted to be super chill to the president. I would I would definitely be listening to that one. That for sure. It would be. So it would be so insane. Yeah, one day happen. With this was a rather which would you rather hit the lottery or the nixt win the title this year? That's a really good question. A lottery buy the team with the amount of money that I won. I'll say you hit the lottery and you'll be set for life. Damned, I'm I'm going to say next title. Whoa all right. Yeah, if it was enough money to buy the next though, and I would say the money, but it's too easy going to say. I'm going to say next title. When I was coming up with that question, actually, I was thinking about saying you get to buy the next or they win like five championships in the next like ten years. I'll take I'll take by the next over that, because I think will win more than that. I know more than that. It's just it's an organizational thing, I think, because once the next organization is on point, every big free agent's kind to come and that sets it up for the next hundred plus years. All right, if you were working in sports, what do you think you'd be doing? I wanted to be when I was super young. I wanted to be a marine biologist, all right, but then I found out you a definitely had to go to school. The had to be smart and see, most of it wasn't even like I like the way I was imaging read. Biology is like snorkeling and scuba diving and just like it being awesome and like being on vacation. Or is in reality it's all like notes and writing and like writing papers and essays and trying to get funding and like that sucks. No, thank you. Yeah, yeah, I know, I know, I know. We yea when you'd say stirling cling. I still got to get scuba certification, although it's a little it's a little unsafe, but I want to do one day. Yeah, definitely the definitely be dope. Well, appreciate you coming on. And can you let the people know where they could follow you at? Yeah, you can follow me at buster or you can text me at nine seven, nine seven other tow choose years your you never had to guess do that before. I now you give their email. Other number, though it's not I mean it's one of my numbers. But yeah, was there actly? You'll see. You'll see what I'm talking about. Is there any cool story about how you got that at Buster name? Not Really. I was at buster share and then the dude that had it hit me up, I guess sue, who I know now that he had hit up every buster first first name. That was verified. I was the first person respond and I was just like how much you want for it, and he's like froming her bucks. I was like I bet and got you actually. Yeah, one thing that I searched, like just your name. Just see if it comes up in like buster only comes up pretty much most of the time. So are you trying to you trying to get that searches out? Yeah, Damn, wait, I think if you type them on Google, people named and you find people named roster. His real name isn't buster, though, which is why it's not cool. He's like look Google people named buster and I come up above buster on me right now, only behind Buster Posey, the baseball player, and Buster Keaton. But I was named after fun...

...fact. And Yeah, but, but most of those guys real names are on buster, like buster Posey's real name isn't buster. Buster Keaton's real name. visit even bus there and I was named after him. Buster Buster Douglas isn't his buster only isn't his name. There are a lot of fake busters out here. So you're the real BUSTA, you're a real bust. Yeah, I'm trying to eliminate all the fake busters. Come on, people with their birth name is buster only listed on Google. Why had the real buster on today so like they could all I don't want any other buster on my podcast. Now get buster Buster Prosey and a Mr Keaton. Please, please do it. All right, all right. Well, again, I appreciate it and yeah, definitely. Actually, I just listen to your Victor Cruiz one today. I'm halfway done and then, you know, I'll be checking it out, so we'll stay in Tux thank you. Thank you pretty once again. This episode was powered by CBD for life. Check them out. It's CBD for Life Dot us and used a Promo Code savage twenty four, twenty percent off your entire purchase CBD for Life Dot us. Check them out.

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