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Carl McDowell | Average to Savage EP29

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This is the twenty-ninth episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring actor and musician Carl McDowell. Paul Guarino talked with Carl McDowell discussing his life growing up in Chicago, how he got into acting, what its like to be on HBO's show Ballers, and traveling the world with the band he is currently in. Follow Carl McDowell https://www.instagram.com/CarlDMcDowell https://www.twitter.com/carlmcdowell https://www.facebook.com/TheRealCarlMcDowell/ Fueled by K Plus Organics kplusorganics.com/

This is the average to savage podcast with Paul Greno everyone in anyone athletes suets and much more so, up everybody. I'm back for another episode of the average savage podcast. Got Another special guest today, actor Carl McDowell. Carl, how's it going? Great, man. Thanks. Yeah, thanks for coming on. Appreciate it. Let's just jump right into it. Could you give us a little brief summary About Yourself? About me, I play TPD on HBO's Ballers on the basis for the band left goal, or also known as the previously known as the Sun. That's it. I had a couple movies coming out rim of the world with King Badge, and I'd like to be alone that at this dropped on video on demand. Look bit about me and I know you grew up in Chicago. So what was that like? CHICAGO RUS and it was rough because it's like a such such a, like a violent, rough kind of town, and then it was also cool. It was just rough to grow up, as I feel like it hard and here as a person. Chicago does, but I'm in La now and I'll softened up a little bit. Yeah, for sure. Where you really hard growing up? The cubs fan or white sox fan growing up. So I hear that you can only be one, but I'm both. I would, how nice to live a off the street from Chimiski Parks, where White Sox did, so I would always walk over and go to White Sox Games and I love that team. But I would always watch the curves on TV and I always wanted to go to those games. A little greekly field and the Dolphin. So I love both teams. I'm a fan of both teams. When they want, I'll go back foot bath, especially the windy city classic does like my having right there because I get to see the sox and the curves. Like yeah, for sure. How far apart are the stadiums? I really far. So the white foxes on the south side, yeah, study, sifting state, and the Ridgley fields on the north side, Addison, yeahs like they really follow. They really far apart. And like growing up, like what made you want to become like an actor now musician, I mean watching TV. Being as a kid, I used to think like I want to be inside the TV watching a lot of TV and listening to a lot of music as a kid. Also, I just learned like every every song on the radio just so I wouldn't be bored. I've learned everyone of them about it. Is like musician anything. I would just like single tool. HMM. I never thought that I'd be an actor or musician, especially musician part. That just happened like three years ago. Yeah, but I didn't think. I didn't think. I thought I'd played football or some sort of sport. But in college when I messed up my knee as well, prompted me to go to actor after like, how did you break into the acting industry? Well, when I was in college they gave us a class and it will get a practical and I never really went to this class. I would always like dish. I just stritterly every day. Never went to the class. So the teacher called it said it would be able to give me a grade if I didn't do a play for them. Yeah, and he wanted me to be cooks other than mice and man of mice, admit. And I didn't want to do the play, but my coach started to be funny if I did the play and he brought the team and so they made me do the play. I didn't and I loved it. But even after like doing the play. I was still playing football, so I just like that was not even an Apid thoughts to meet football with it. And then I guess I hurt myself my last year college, like well, I did like that acting thing, was trying to and so I came in La Asu. So kind of just like happened. Just happened. What was this? Rolling it? Yeah, for sure. What position did you play?...

I played quarterback, running back, while I received a cornerback, safety, home her return and kick return. So everything. Sorry again, Gotcha. Can you break down what it's like to go into an all addition, the whole process is that you go in, they'll have a reader there with you. Now have somebody taping and and that's pretty much it. So you'll go in and you prepare your lines. You prepare you just and you go in and they'll read if you put it on tape, and then you're probably get it. If you get a call back, then you'll going to your read for like maybe the director or produce or something like that. If if few more people there and if you get the chemistry read, the person that Sup scale screen it will be there, along with the directing the producers, and then you guys will do the same for them and and then if you like, if they like you, did you probably get the part? Yeah, sure. So how did it come about that you got the part for tgd on ballers will? At first I went up for London rounds are fat Reggie. Yeah, so I was. I went in for that when I read for that a couple of times, I think like two times, two or three times, and then I didn't get that part, obviously, and they get me the side for ttd and it was just like the stoner and he's talking about the movie, He's talking about the movie her, he's critiquing it, and so I got those sides and I got really stone and I watched the movie her and I critiqued it and I went in the next day and that was what you got. But I did that. I did that to do that a couple of times that they like maybe two or three times, and then it was a was a long layoff, probably like maybe four or five months before I heard that I got the parts. I forgot about him. Actually, it's crazy. Didn't even think about anymore. I'm manager called me was like Hey, you got that part I'm talking about, and they everything with the Rock and I was all right, so that would have so that's cool. So how often does that happen, that you go on in audition, you just you don't hear back for a while and then is that how it? You do every list, every audition? So I mean, I don't know how other actors do it, but like a soon as I'm finished with an audition I kick it out of my head until he's I get a call back or something like that. So you go in an audition, like I get the audition piece, but work it out, I get it to memory, I'll play with it a little bit and then I go and do it and I just kick it out of my head. I don't even think about it anymore unless I hear something back my hes. I'then back, then I'll get back into it. If I don't, which is often, like you rarely hear, they don't call you. Is You didn't get it? Yeah, just don't hear anything. You just don't hear anything. I kind of how about balls was. I was like, must have gotten that part. Yeah, five months down the line you got the part. Yea Hey, yeah, I feel you on that, because I mean I applied the jobs before and it was like sometimes I get back to you and sometimes I just don't email you back at all, or the email that you back months later and say now you didn't get it. This one it was of one movie I went up for and it was and they normally don't tell you that you didn't get the part. Yeah, so they so this company they emailed me and said, hey, we're going to go and we're going to go in a different direction. Yeah, so we're sorry, whatever. And I was like, okay, I got the email say, and I didn't get the part. Then I get a call from this production company and I'm not going to make mistake. They call like hey, did you get the email that cassie? I see why they do it the other way. And now I just don't ye kind of hard anytimes. One. Yeah,...

...yeah, that. Yeah, it's a little brutal. Yeah, I mean, I rather just get an email, but like, yeah, even I even I got one phone call and I knew it was the guy's number, like from the job right, and then so I thought. So, I thought I got it because like they're not going to call you to say you didn't get it. Yeah, so they called me and said pull you didn't hit the nail on the head. I was like, Oh okay, I was about to throw my phone across the hallway that day. Didn't hit. Yeah, you Didah, he said, you just you just didn't hit the nail on the head. I was like, all right, you're calling, you tell me it again. Yeah, I was like all right, cool, I guess a little talk. Yeah, it was creat I was I was feeling some some type of way. That that's all I know. It was word fuck, I'm credicivil. Yeah, it was like, yeah, okay, I'll I'm on to the next one. That was that was the worst one for me. I'd rather get the rather get the email, like you just said, or nothing at all. or nothing at all. So, yeah, and I know you, like you just said. Yeah, back to when you said you didn't get the part of Fat Reggie. So did they? So how did that work out? Did they say like you didn't get that, but we want you to try out for this part. They probably talk more to my managers and agents about those. Yeah, they hear anything about Fred Reggie anymore after the third time on you, after second or third time on here. And so I just assumed that I didn't get the part and then and then they said they sent me another one. I was like, Hey, these guys was really like you. They want you to come back in this role. And I was like, okay, all right, just send it over. They send it over and I'm looking obviously, Gosh, you got I'm sure you get this a lot, do does anyone ever ask you like, are you like ttd? Oh, yeah, and I am. I'm exactly like so weird everyone a while. You see, like the perfect marriage between park person. Yeah, and this is it. Like, I mean I think I am TPD. Hetd is me, with the exception of you, where's a lot of jewelry. I don't wear any jewelry or watches, anything like that. I'm not flashy. Yeah, but any drop and t cars. I'm not that guy. Other than that, like, I mean, I'm all m all from our friends. I'm always about helping out. I'm always quick with a joke. I'm always, you know, wing cool t shirts like the PG sports. Wouldn't getting stone like all of these things you can tvd is pretty much me. Yeah, for sure. And what what is this? TDD stand for something? I mean it's this season. J glazon named them tears tyrone Darby, but other than that it doesn't stand off anything even to a think somebody asked in the in this show, like in one of the episodes, and he said it was time to dance. Yeah, I was told a story about a football player who this is the real story of TTT. Yeah, there's a football player and his girlfriend and she did yea and he went to her dorm and say come out, it's time to die, and his teammates heard about it. A makeup, come time to die, and then it showed up. The TTD Gotcha. So that's that's crazy right there. So that's crazy right there. That is crazy. So what about when people run into you in public? Do they? They run up and say hey, what's up? TTD? Oh, yeah, TPD, Ricky, jared boy T, they go. They called me out of kinds of stuff. So is it like? It's like normal now, like you, you're like response to it. Yeah, I'm responding to it. A lot of people like points you, like I know you from somewhere and they do us bowlers. That happens to I'm really something about it. I'm kind of just weird about nature's lover. Somebody looking at me and I don't know who you are. I'm kind of...

...like this, the Chicago and me. I think I've gotta right. You looking at where? You looking at me like that? Yeah, and then, Oh, you that guy. I think my weird is by nature's kind of putting. Once we figure it all out, I'm really restored to it. Yeah, yeah, so when you go back to Chicago, like, do more people know who you are? Now? I've been Chicago. Yeah, I've been since this is all off. I haven't really been home an bears game, and I mean I got a lot of love at at the game, but I may just walking around Chicago. I haven't done it yet. Got You. What's it like working with the castle balls, the layous? It's fun. All of them good cool people, John David, Rob Corny, the Wayne, everybody just really cool people. It's so much fun to go on our set. Like you supposed to be working now and I'm like, I'm like restless right now. I just want to go back to work. You don't start back until a this year, but this is normally around the time we would be going back and I can't, I can't take it. I need to go in, I need to go to spack for sure. And do you? You Watch the show? Like you go back and watch the seasons? It is one of my favorite shows the point where when I get the scripts the show, I'll read about part. Okay, I don't want to. I don't want to know what happened. You know, I watch it, Gosha. It is it weird? Yeah, weird. Watching yourself. It is weird. Hope I get used to it. Only maybe like once, maybe twice. It's like because we have to like lave tweet or something like that. Yeah, I watch it those two times and then I'm done with it, just because I don't want to look at myself anymore. Gotcha. And what about like how long does it take to film like a whole season abolish? Three or four months? It's kind of like, okay, at ten days for one like ten days for twenty two minutes. Yeah, wow, that's crazy. Yeah, it's normal. Is Normally sketched out about ten days per episode. That's pretty much with every every show. Really, Gotcha. And I know at the beginning you mentioned your your got some new movies and shows coming up. So you want to talk about what those are? What came out called? I'd like to be along as Jack McKee, mindy, Sterling, Sam Levine, David just a bunch of cool actors. The nestling, he's a Christopher and his last name, but it's just a bunch of its. Sam Levine's character is wife and kids in the car accident and his whole family and I'm his I'm one of his best friends. We go over to support them, yeah, and and support them. We just get in his way and we just flocking up everything. It's a dark comedy. It's serious and it's funny sometimes, but we just get in his way and he'd like to be alone. He just want to be alone and we won't leave me alone. So he nails himself into a room. He just wants to get alone and it's a cool little movie. It's a cooler movie. It just came out for other day and we have the rim of the world coming out. This is also a cool movie. Is McGee wonder land productions. They get the babysitter y us all this group. Yes, pretty cool. So it's to say to people that did that movie and this is kind of like stranger things because as four kids is the lead and it's kind of like an aliens something like that. It's been a good monster. So and then me and Andrew Bachelor or King Batch, we like camp counselors and we kind of every kind of just like super stuss the...

...whole time. Yeah, just a stupid things, and that's what that's going to be a good coming out from time this year. Yeah, that's going to be on Netflix. That'll be of Netflix. Yet. Is that your Netflix debut? Maybe citizens on Netflix. I got you. Got You. What kind of like I want to say, like Dream Roll do you want to be? Like you want to be in like a bigtime movie or like, what's your goal? bigtime movie, TV series? Didn't anything is but yeah, I'm thinking. I don't know if you know who is. I'm a big old if I'd like to do her biography. Okay, that would be for me. I think I heard of him. I'm just not really sure about it. Yeah, he's like an old singer from back in the babe. Okay, this one show in his whole entire life and then it was because his plane, air craft. Okay, school, maybe, just like really good music. He's really fun guy and he's like God to bring his knife to screen. Be Dope. And before we get off the subject acting, going to musician ship. What advice would you give young actors or actresses? Love the craft? Like, love the craft more. Do you like money or fame? Yeah, be patient and invest in yourself, like investing yourself. Nobody will, like, really take you serious if you not. Will you invest in yourself? I'm sure actually want it takes time to because I know that patient nothing happens overnight. Yeah, for sure. And one last question about the acting stuff. The ballers like Change Your Life? Yeah, totally. Did just open up like more doors and stuff. First the first season, just being on that first season changed. I don't know if it's this show of this acted like being with the rocking on David and all these actors. I guess if you'll screen with them, people started to put you up there as well, and it really does just change your life, like yeah, for sure, for sure. So how did you get into your band? Left on, Laurel. Let's go the sandwich. Okay, to assume. So I play sports. Of My friends, Michael Rosenbaum and one of them, and so we would play sports in the Saturday and he would I would say we should go on my basement and jam, just like just JEM lets. Let's play some covers in my basement and we had played guitars. Best for reality, his restaurant Tom Lally of thirty years is also play guitar, so he's in the band. We have a friend named Rob Danson. He played with us. He's a great guitar he's in a bunch of bands before. And then we had my friend grant coolidge, who wrote ride alone. He was our drummer at first, or he was the drummer at first and then he couldn't. He couldn't he was writing movies and stuff, so he couldn't hang out all the time. And then our friend can't started playing a drums. He didn't he never played the drums before, but he just started playing the drums. And then they told me if I came that they would teach me how to play the Bass. We'll go over then hang out with them and they would teach me how to play the Bass. At first I learned like every note on the on one line. So on the EAD court he can play literally every note. So I would just do that on their one court and they start teaching me like how to move around and like what would sound good while we playing. He staying and so they taught me how to play the Bass. Obviously, three years ago,...

...and here we are now. Were about to put out an album. In February, the tour Germany two times and we played the Troubadore Love Street Festival and Hotel Cafe in La Paz. I said that's crazy. No Internet, international already. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we invited back to go to Germany again next door this November. So going to go play on a festival out there again and it still but what was Germany like? I'm sorry, what was Jeremy like? We went twice. The first time we tooled, so we were there. We went to Berlin, we went to Cologne, we went to Frankfurt. We played four sols and three different cities. Yeah, and each city, each city was his own thing. Like Berlin was the first city went to. We they just like the city that a sleep. It was like the New York of Germany. Yeah, Frankfurt was more bearsness, he way. Yeah, Frankfort was more like business. He's like all downtown kind of. In Cologne was all party. So it was like, I don't know, Ba New Orleans. So you can walk down the street is all bar. It's kind of like a college town. Yeah, and they all had their own different fields but, like the show's all different, and they were, but they were all fun. And then this lasting we just did with the Frankfurt we stayed in Frankfort for four days and we just did the festival there. But it was really fun. It's like a lot of bars, it's a lot of history. Obviously it's a lot of history, but it was really cool. Yeah, definitely, definitely sounds interesting. And you be an actor in musician. That's kind of crazy. You got a busy schedule and stuff like that. So you ready for some fun questions? Yeah, so what do you do like to do in your free time? Watch movies, play video games, learn the base, watch sports, got concert video game playing. Now I've been playing at NBA to k lately, but also got that MLB the show up. Only play, really only play the sports game. Okay, yeah, and spider man and all these other games. I tried every once in a while, but, as I mentioned, to get back to the sports game. Yeah, for sure, that's that's that's how I am to yeah, for sure. What do? What's something that people don't know about Carl? Something that people don't know about call. I don't like breaking news. Carl does not like twerking, like everybody loves working. Okay, all right, I'll take it. How is one? If you eat one sandwich for the rest of your life, which kind of sandwich would it be? Okay, so I'm pretty much eat the Sawa every day. She's and Miracle Whip every pretty much every day. Oh, you make it yourself. If Oh man, what about top three movies of all time? Top three, yeah, if you want go top five. I don't know. The doors for dump and I'm going to find Friday. Right, there's put down Netflix. They said they just put that on Netflix the Friday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've definitely one. What about? Yeah, are you movies? Yeah, it's just you know how to give you that question. What about? Are you watching any binge? Watching any NETFLIX series? I'm watching arrested development. I've never seen that...

...before, so I'm like one that'll throw back to come back. Oh, yeah, for sure, I haven't. I haven't really got into that. I try to get into others. I might try to get into that. I haven't really watched it before. I watched a couple times. I don't know. I don't know, I gotta see you recommended. The first few episodes is born, because it's like all the houses, all the characters, all of this and yourself million of them. But once you get into the action, oh my, show the name. I'm not even like I don't like like history, show the action person. I don't know. I've never really seen the Harry Potter's or any of the like superhero movies and stuff like that. Yeah, the game of loans man is insane. Starting to get into the galaxy and an starting to get into these a little bit. I really just like funny or real kind of movies. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I think the superhero movie sometimes like I gotta go see him, but like most of the time, like come on, like how many more you gonna come out with every I mean every five minutes? Like I just saw aquaman and that one was like pretty good. But like other than that, yeah, it was really it was really good. I thought it was. Could I think that one was like different than the other superhero movies, probably because it was just something underwater, I guess you'd say. HMM. Now I was like half an as. Okay, you go check it out. Yeah, definitely I'm not I'm not a big I'm not into superhero movies, but I would check it out. Basically, I think if they just didn't say like the Superhero thing, like I'd probably just go see it anyways. But like, yeah, there's just like wait after remember when they first came out with them, like I'd say like the first one, big one is probably spider man, and that was dope, like the original one, like toby McGuire. That one was like Nope, I thought. And then like then they just then they just I don't know, they just made it too much. It's just too much. Yeah, Maya. And now they're remaking them all. And now they were making them all. The spider man, they made hulk like three times, like going yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw that one. That was kind of good, but it was way too long. That's the other thing I saw. I forgot which one is. Come now I remember. Like everyone on twitter is going wild and they're like what it's going to be like three something, three chains long, like what's going on? And then some people are, you know, whatever else sit there for three hours and how about it? Back to back. See People are coming up. So I'm so upset with movies now, like now they put it to three. What about? How about? It's crazy. What about? What's your favorite social media platform? INSTAGRAM. I like instagram. Ye, the other ones, I'm not so being in a face about. Used to be on facebook a lot, but barely facebook now twitters, waits and fastening. Yeah, I can't, I can't. I don't know. I don't know what's happening on twitter while I'm on there. Like every time I post something to my instagram, it goes to my facebook and into my twitter, so it might think like I'm doing those two things, but I really just do instagram. Yeah, for sure. Well, I appreciate you coming on the show and wish your best best of luck in your career. And we're and where could people find you on social media? Instagram, I'm called D mcdow. On facebook I'm called mcdal. On twitter, I think I'm calling you, Nick Dow.

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