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Chad Dawson | Average to Savage EP50

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This is the fiftieth episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring 3x light heavyweight world championship boxer Chad Dawson. Paul Guarino talked with Chad Dawson discussing how his love for boxing developed, his 5-year world championship run, and his plan to return to the ring in 2019! Follow Chad Dawson https://www.instagram.com/badchaddawson Powered by PG Sports https://www.pg-sports.com

This is the average to savage podcast with Paul Greeno, everyone in anyone, athletes, seps and much more. It's up everybody. I'm back for another episode of the average avage podcast. Or special guests today is three time white heavyweight champion Chad Dawson. Chad, what's up? Hey, how you doing? Yeah, appreciate you coming on finally. Yeah, yeah, late, for sure for sure. So let's just let's go back to it. You were born in South Carolina. You move to Connecticut, so at a young age. What Made Your family moved to Connecticut? I think it was just more opportunities for my father mother. So I think you know well from the south is like feeling nothing near is and it's still the same way to this day. Yeah, I think more so for more opportunities, just to get out of the country. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And how'd you get involved in boxing? Was a fighter, so my father box with me and my brothers. God evade. He took us to the gym and it was history from there. Did you fall in love like the first day? Yeah, let mean, my mother fathers tell stories about me when I was younger. How you like three years old? How you know I'll have gloves on. Every where I went I had gloves on. If they take the gloves for me, I will cry about him. It was like, I guess it's kind of like built into me and I like that's I got three other brothers that box. Yeah, so, I mean all of us are good, equal, equally good, you know. So, but it just so me. I just I just fung on to a little longer than they did. You know, they want to do other things, like. You know, no, I sacrifice. They got jobs and stuff like that, but you know, I sacrifice and I wanted to show everybody really wanted to do. It was something I want to do a style with child anyway. Yeah, for sure. And I know you played other sports, curb. So you played basketball, right Gat play basketball for a little while, play football for year. I mean, I may may my brother athletic girl home. We're athletic family. If you ask anybody from where we from, everybody know that. If you say the doors and Nanda know that. This think about athletes, you know, because that's what we do. Yeah, for...

...sure. It was no coincidence that boxing will be like sexy second nature to me. So yeah, definitely. Now, when you were in like high school. What did you like? Your other classmates thinks about you, like boxing, like doing basically a non traditional sport. Yeah, I mean, well, some people know I was the boxing since I was about my first time I was in Nukeb I think I was like ten or left. Yeah, maybe my brothers who were always in the newspaper, you know, for boxing, going to tournaments and one in tournaments and and things like that. So it was like as I got older, about fifteen, fifteen, I started going to national championships and doing good in those tournaments. and Dave Silomon, who was a big time reporter for the UM. Do have a vegister? He passed away. No, God ISS so, but he was one of the main guys that really like no, follow my career and from the time I was some of my time out thirteen tell I was like twenty seven. You followed my career where he was at heavy fight. You know, he wrote about being stories and its things like that. So men pretty much. Well, I'm from my family. Know what being a box of family. So yeah, definitely, and turned pro at nineteen and eighteen. Ore a seen. All right, so you sent thro eighteen. So what was that like and what was the decision behind that. Okay, this is behind was I had just went to the junior world championships. Yeah, I was seventeen. I wanted to junior world championships and I want to bronze medal and I was the first American the medal in that tournament since one thousand nine hundred and eighty five or something like that. So it was like it was big, you know. So when I came back I was ready to number I was right up there, was number two in the country as an amateur. So when I came back it was like it was big. I didn't realize how big it was, but when I came back, I think I had like two or three more amateur fights and I stopped everybody. So it was like a he came to a point where I just started getting good. Yeah, good, as I got bigger and got stronger, you know, I got better and better and better, and my training was like a man. I think we should turn pro and said it was around the time that older Jermaine Taylor, Jeff laced, all those guys re turn pro to so we wanted to turn pro with those guys. Yeah, you know, to get in, get in the mix of th guts and I was fortunate enough on...

...my pro debut I phote on the arm a main event under the car and Moll E car son. Yeah, I got a lot of exposure from that. Yeah, definitely. was there any ever a time that you wanted to like go to the Olympics? Oh yeah, I mean that's my hortimate goal was the Olympics. But you know, when you were teenager, I was a tell a teenager. You know, I got boxing going on, I'm trying to play other sports and do all the things like that. It was like sometimes, you know, I wasn't able to make it to the gym. I was able to upcause I was doing other things. Yeah, so around the time the Olympics came around, I was in the gym full time. Not So my trains and he didn't think it was a good idea for me to go child, for them to go to the limpy child. So we skipped it and I end up going to the other nineteen junior world championships. wanted a bronze meddle deer, so I guess that was that was a big enough deal so that when I came back I just side of the turn pro. I turned pro with Jeff Ladjer main Taylor, all those guys from the Olympic team. Yeah, and it work work my benefit, you know. Yeah, definitely. I turned Poe at Middleway, so my first seventeen pikes were at middleway. Definitely, I was tasting Jimmaine Taylor and eventually I got too big. YEAHS and white. I know you mentioned the prote be, but what was it like? Did you have butterflies? Yeah, yeah, definitely doesn't. I mean it was the first time getting the ring with no hay gear, no shirt on. I mean, I mean, yeah, I was nervous my first fight. Yeah, I was. I was really nervous. No, my had my family here, friends did. But you know, here's the ten other business. You know from near that was that was the beginning of that start of my career. Yeah, for sure. And you became world champion at twenty four. So how did that happen so fast? You know what I'm say? You like this. When I first turn pro, like I was a knucklehead. I was kind of like a knucklehead, like I wasn't doing anything, like I was like for no, I was like for no, I still wasn't like a full time boss, like I was still like walking around, like I was I'm just up, just a CA I got little, I just happened to how to box. You know, it was I got to look at it and look at the big picture, like I to be really become a world champion. So, you know, like my first four or five fights I was still like running around and then when I finally started to get serious, you know,...

...it went by fast. You know, winning fights, winning fights, winning fights, winning fight, and they think, you know, I'm seventeen and know. And then I caught their attention of a big promoter who was gary show. I signed with him and from there I think I to my third fight with him. I foll forward title. Yeah, definitely. What's to that first world time fight? was that whole experience, like it was a great thing, but I was groomed. I was room for that fight. I was room for it. No, every nobody thought I was going to win that fight. Everybody out of count me out of a fight. But before that fight I for Eric Cardon, yeah, whose who still a pretty decent name and lay here with you in that time and who was somebody I grew up with. I grew up watching fight and he's come. He from connecticuts Marfur. So I knew him and we were kind of like good friends. But I took the fight with him fight that I was very nervous for it because, you know, he this was a very sperienced guy, very experience older, you know, at the time I was twenty. When I for your herd, I was twenty three, you know. So I mean, like I said, I was groom for like, you know, making my promoter, making a right fight, you know, and gave me the right position of the home just to striving. You know, we become a great fighter and he did that for me. Yeah, that was back in two thousand and seven when you won in is it crazy that the guy a men and men is still fighting, the Guy Thomas Adaman, Oh Adam and Adam. Yeah, yeah, heavy way to yeah, that's crazy. He's for years. So it's great, but I think he's just stopped. I think he's name but his own. But you know, he had a great career. I mean, yeah, he lost to me. He went up to cruise the weight. I think you want a title at cruise away. Didn't went to heavyweight. It has some good fights a heavyweight. I mean he did, like did a lot of great things. I mean just happened at when I was coming along. It was just my time. Sein now. I was young, I was twenty four. I was that I was on top of my game. I was in my I wasn't even if I didn't even hit my prime yet. Twenty four years though, I even had, I hate my time when that's when I realized really, like I was twenty six. I'm when I really like hit my prime, like, but I was like if I got I had that confidence, like I was like...

...nobody to beat me, and I know nobody could beat me. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, you had a five year championship run where you beat Glen Johnson twice, toliver twice and basically you beat Hopkins twice. So so what was all that like? What was that? Was that run like? That was I mean that's a long time, five years. I mean it was. It was a great run. I mean it was great. I mean just be to be known as the best lay hey wait in the world for five years, in the world because, I mean it was it's a great feeling. I mean at the time, because I was doing so much and the time was moving so fast, like I didn't really get the appreciate it. Yeah, but now I'm older, sit back and I think about everything I've accomplished over the years and I still bank like why, I can't believe I did that, like I can't believe me, but three times word champion. I can't believe that. I can't. I mean it's kind of the real but, like I said, like this what I dreamed about since I was a little kid. Yeah, definitely, and I know you have five losses. Like which one would you want the rematch with? All the all, I'll take it as that's a box of mentality. That's a bottom, but the boxing mentality right there, I tell you, I will be. And I know some people think you're retired right now, but I know you want to fight in two thousand and nineteen. So, yeah, when you want to fight again. Look, I'm looking to fight this summer. Looking me back in the summer, in the June, early July, lady alife whatever, but I'm definitely trying to give least two or three fighting before the years over. Yeah, definitely. Is there anyone that you want to fight in particulars right now? I think, in my opinion, it's kind of vulnerable. You got a lot of European champions. I don't think we have an American champion heavy week, you know, and it takes a certain style. beat the European style. Takes a certain style and I think I feel that in Adamic fight. Yeah, I had a big fight that the American style, like my style. Is it that out? Will be anyone of these guys? You know these guys are they got the European style, nothing...

...special, everything base. Take fight with anybody, anybody in the top fifteen right now. Yeah, it sounds good. And I know you opened the gym last summer. So what was that like and why did you want to open your own gym? I just want to open the gym, just just to give something back to the community. Know, I feel, like you know, everything I've learned and boxing, like it's my job to give it back to somebody else. You know, they handed down to somebody. Yeah, that's that's that's what I'm doing. I mean I'm definitely, of course I'm handing it down to my son, but you know, it's just bigger than that. Like if I could, but I tell everybody, if I could get a kid in my gym from the age of ten and I could guy him pay four hundred and twenty five and one of the world championship. I feel like I did my job. Yeah, definitely. My whole take is building fighters. You know, of course I work with a guy who's already established and things like that, but you know, my whole goal is when it comes to becoming a trainer, I want to home build a fighter from the ground up. Yeah, definitely, a title. Yeah, definitely. I mean I'm sure that would be amazing feeling to do that. Yeah, and would you ever consider like training like actors, like say, like a Michael B Jordan to be like in creed? You know, yeah, definitely. Like I said, it's always going to be a way why I could pass my lo is down, where it be a little kid or whether the actors or anything like. I save and boxing. I go've done so much and I've seen so much and I've heard so much the like. If anybody comes to me like questions or advice and because I thought I could give you the fighting guys, you in the right direction because, like I said, and I've been through the ups and downs a boxing I know the inn the house, I know I know everything about box I know. I know what's the right deal of fires take what's not a right to you know, when it comes to training, the business, I everything else know, like I feel like I've gained all that knowledge, and that knowledge I'm should be able to give it back to my else. Yeah, definitely. And you're ready for some fun questions. Yeah, right. What kind of music deals to you in your train training? You want the artist order. I just hip hop, hip your any favorite songs right now? Here, songs right now? Not just right now. Just listen to meet MIL this. No,...

TI, like my favorite rapper is Tis, one of my favorite rapper for all time, young dz sequel. I mean those are guy. I'm not with the new school sell allow me my ear. For sure. Did you ever have anyone walk out with you? Any rappers? Not, I didn't. I didn't, but been a lot of few labs. have to fight, but nobody walked out with you. Know, Goshall stuff like that. Anybody, if you like, you a big fan of tattoos and and you watch me and you want my career. You know I'm not like a flashy guy. I'm not saying well, I'm not loud, I'm not you know that was that was like the knock like people had. Like people didn't like the fact that I wasn't loud, not even took it, and I didn't do like. People didn't like the fact that I that that wasn't my emo. Yeah, you just did your job and got the winds. Yeah, that's my job. was going in when, like I didn't care about everything else. Like, I had a discuss you with a friend of mine couple weeks ago up, yes, and we were talking about like boxing, like when you like, when you when you gon't fight again, like when to fame in his money. I'm like Yo, I told him, like I've never got into a boxing to be famous. Yeah, like, I've never thought to be famous. Of course, yes, I did fight for money, yeah, but I've never did it to be famous. Yeah, definitely doesn't want to fight for money and make money and yeah, but I've never stepped into the ring. I've never done anything to be famous. I've never wanted to be fat, I've never act to be famous. Of course, it comes with the territory, but I've never asked for yeah, yeah, that's the money. The money. That's a plus. But as far as like, I don't act like almost celebrity. I don't train anybody different from I don't want nobody treat me any different. That's just how I live my life, though. So I'm assuming you're glad you didn't grow up in this social media era. Oh, I'm mad I didn't. Actually, you're right. So much it comes with the social media. I mean this is so much like social media came in right after like for be hot. That's what like social media was like really coming in. Yeah, definitely, like...

...now that now, no, now it like I should. I should be taking advantage of it. Yeah, for sure. I mean, yeah, it's a good than the sense obviously it's promoting boxing a lot. Yep, I think even in the past few years boxing got bigger just coming social media. Yeah, definitely, just from this and just even just in the past, like I don't know, maybe like year, a lot of people have been like screw UFC, like all the stuff, then all the bossing, and then obviously they're seeing boxers getting paid way more. Like the top boxers get paid way more than the top UFC fighters. Yeah, that was just made thirty five minutes. Yeah, so I saw that he made thirty seven. They had to give them. Yeah, I was crazy. I was wild as a while that he got find that much money to have. It was a quartermill each pound. Yeah, but you possession of that fight different. But they put the weight restriction on Danny Takeo. Right, yeah, because I don't want Danny takes a big middleway. Yeah, Danny take up to blow up two months after the way in. But Danny take up didn't even to me my opinion here. Literally he didn't attempt to try to make weight because he wanted, he wanted to advantage. But the stepping aside, so you find he had to get. Fine, he gave to me enough, but everything is still didn't work at his favor. Yeah, feel like he was a strong fighter to better fire, the more superior fighter he want to fight. Yeah, thatfinitely. I mean Canella does that all the time. They'll go like blows up and waiting for the following day. So I buy me an obviously, and made weight. But yeah, seventy three. Yeah, on hundred and seventy three. And I know. Yeah, definitely. I know. You have four sons and do any of them inspire to be boxers. Yeah, I got on two of them too. Yeah, my oldest Chad Jr Tager, want to be fighters every day, JEM now and everything. So, yeah, it's dope. Are they going to start fighting the amateurs? YEA, so many. It's a nervous feller for me, you know, you just like it's different that you can like trying to guy the kids in the right way, but and it comes to boxing.

You try to teach me much you want to teach them, but in the day it's not you going and they getting hit and taking the punishment. You know, that's like I don't know if, like my kids have just the heart and thedation that I got. Like I said, they still young. Yeah, younger tiger. Tigers only only ten. Yeah, Chad at fifteen. But at the same time, you know, the different animal, different sport. I mean got I have a different type of mine, given type of heart. I mean you gotta tough. I try to explain this to them all the time, like you got all the talent in the world, but if you work at it, don't master the talent, then it's not that's never going to work. Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely, and what are your thoughts on MMA? Do you like I I love him. Yeah, I love it. But what I do it and you have to kick me in you you have any favorite fighters? And UFCMM. Yeah, of course, on Connor McGregor. I'm not gonna I like them. C I wasn't like his personality, but I like I like it. Styles a we fight like John Satire. Yeah, George, same period. Yeah, George. Yeah, he's easy to best. I like what's his name? The guy will be home, kind of a Gregory last got to beat them. Yeah, him. Yeah, actually, he trains a lot of boxing. John Jones. Yeah, he's he's a name. Have you ever spart with the MMA fighters? No, you know what one time you want to be on winer. Oh, yeah, yeah, I know. What's his name? I know you're talking. Yeah, he's like a light heavyweight or something. Maybe he's name. Oh, yeah, rematch. Yeah, crazy. And what about who? Do you think? It's like town for pound...

...right now, boxing right now? Yeahs to me right now at performance. Yeah, yeah, I don't yeah, I don't think anyone. All right. So what about? What about if you think if can triple g three happens, what do you think will happen. I came about Terence Crawford, a response, I think, to get them. Yeah, to cousin man carverages. Show me everything, you don't just show me one thing. He showed me every day. Show me the box, he could punch, he could move, he could swish, or the docks out for I mean other fence is a great fighter, very fighter, and put and then they took him. My help, Canello right now. Did they push them too fast? Yeah, yeah, what? No, Canello right now, now, right now. I mean what I think? I think. I think coper. Right now, I carper. What about Joshua versus wilder? If that ever happened? So Fun. Joshua gonna have a hard tow with Brazil. You think so? Yeah, I think so. Mad. Look, mad he's a Yo. Don't give credit man, this Duke of bold. He's don't. He's not like one of them heavy Scott to just go and looking land the big punt. He's that. He said stuff, but he's he'll set you up, the knock you out. I like Bazil. I like what. I like them. I like Bazil. I think he got a chance to beat down to wilder. I mean, yeah, the run and the same thing. We all preserve. The run over wilder too. Yeah, it's a lot of anything. Got A lot of in my set. Each other too. So fireworks, some fireworks, I think him. So firework this fight? Yeah, definitely. What do you think about the wilder...

...fury fight? Because I thought that was crazy when the it up, when feary got up. I mean it was good, but the only thing that mess that up is that they didn't do the rematch. Yeah, definitely, that's the only thing. Now now try to do the REMAC the fight's going to be nobody's will be interested in it. Yeah, who knows? Who? Either wanted them to take a helb before that. Anyone of them lose any getting job. So I did. He did that rematch. Ye, and do it, but the fact that it's not fighting each other, that's like, I think that's kind of weird. Definitely our last one. What would be your dream matchup, if it was like any person like that or alive? Did I dream match up? Me and Mar Hacker. What happened? May more now I love my favorite, but now I mean a dream fight. I mean to get in there with one of the one of the great one of the legs I mean can't beat that. I mean look, Look, look my career, you my creer, not over yet, but I got five losses. But at the end of the day, if I never fought again, I've always say look, Ma I've been the ring with an how kids, I've been ring with you, war and those. Those are two big names Le me. So yeah, definitely I appreciate you coming on and you lot. The people know where they can find you. On social media, you could bags had dosing instagram and that's the one thing I'm not really now. I appreciate it. In Good Luck. You already know I'll be following all. I'm a take appreciation.

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