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Chris Gronkowski | Average To Savage EP105

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This is the one hundred and fifth episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring entrepreneur and former NFL player Chris Gronkowski. Paul Guarino talked with Chris Gronkowski discussing growing up as a Gronk, his football career, and his company IceShaker which appeared on Shark Tank. Follow Chris Gronkowski https://www.instagram.com/ChrisGronkowski Podcast interview with Chris Gronkowski was originally recorded August 13, 2020

This is the average Ti aveage podcastwith Paul Garina everyone and anyone athletes soleptsand much more. So if everybody welcome back to anotherepisode, the average savage podcast, our special guest todayis Chris GrunCowsky Chris how's it going what's God on man, I'm doing good. I've been upsince Fori M grinded man moving into a newwarehouse, so it's been a lot of work but and man I like the grind- I'drather be busy than bored. If feel you on that yeah before we go into likeyour business in your, how have you been holding up during oven man? It'sbeen interesting for sure, you'wl Haw to switch up a lot of stuff. I gotthree kids under the age of three. You might hear one of them in thebackground crying right now, but yeah man that was, that was a big change.You know trying to run a business from home with three kids stuff so had tolearn to adapt. You know I had to learn how to pick up a couple extra hours bypushing my workout until my kids woke up and cracking out some some work.ATFOR YM instead, so definitely Beena been a change up, but it's been goodman yeah, no going back in time like what was your first memory of justlike playing football: Oh Plang, football, probably backyardfootball man had to be playing with the brothers we'd, alwaysplay like Yo ow tackle in the backyard, and all I remember is like if I gotthrough. If, if I broke through man- and I scored a TD, you had to throwdown the big spike and do the dads after and that's what it was all about.Man So yeah definitely backyard football in the snow. Yo take the bighit, but you know you won't, really feel it because you just landed a bigsnowpile so that those were the days man an now av grown up with three brotherslike what was that like competitive misswash,yeah man, there's actually so, there's five of US total. So four brothers, and it was exactly what you think it is manevery day was a battle we had to win in...

...everything. If we did it, we get in afight. Now, if we lost, we got into a fight, so every day ended in and alloutbraw in everything man for backyard baseball. We play like little ministicks in the in the basement, any game that we could think of. We would play,and it was always a competition yeuven. Even who could eat more? You know, Oucould live more. Ever everything was a challenge before college. I mean whatwas your recruiting process like for me. There wasn't much. I was maybe a onestar or if I was lucky they sai. I was a two star, so I was actually going todivy league. I had one offer for D one at the time it was University ofBuffalo. I was right down the street from or House, and they wanted me toplayguard, which I didn't want to geit another fifty pounds and playit off asa guard. So I wasn't really an option for me. I was going to the Universityof Penn got into the business business school there, the war in businessschool, and I thought it was a pretty goodopportunity for me at the last minute. I did get a full scholarship offer donce to the University of Maryland and for me, it came mostly because of mygrades know had a great GPA. They were having some guys that were feiling outand they were struggling. They were, they were about to go on academicprobation, so they pretty much offered me and said: Hey you better, come inand get a four point. Oh you Kno, because because we need the help atthis point and man, so yeah kids stay in school, do your homework get goodgrades, because at the end of the day, even if you're, not as talented asanother guy, you know you might still get that spot man, because colleges arelooking for guys that are dependable and and if you are that same talent assomeone, that's not as high of a GPA they're going to use you all daybecause it's they know you're going to be less of an issue less of a problemand more of a chance of succeeding and making them look good. So grades areBig Man. Grades are a lot more important than I think. A lot of peopley think they think it's all about talent and scholarships come solelybecause of that, but I'm a great example of just the fact that gridshelped me get where I was...

...in a done: scholarship, tip,Environment Yeah. I mean I pretty much ask every athlete that I comes ont, mypodcast about their recuiting, proces and you're. Definitely the first one tosay something like that: You gottincoser Grat, yeah man, yeah,that's how you go from a one star to a full scholarship man, so yeah it waspretty cool. I mean it's tough to get get really get recruited out of BuffaloNew York, especially for football yeah. I think we had five D on players in theentire state of New York know compared to something like Florida, which is asimilar size. They had over three hundred guys iwould go to you one ayear, so just a tough place to get out of and Yoos. I was fortunate to get ascholarship and get on the path that I went on. Y. Ah, definitely no know yetransferred to Arizona Tis. What was your over experience like in college inMaryland and or Zo man? So I love college. It was a lot offun. Just two different style programs is what it came to onto Maryland wasextremely old school Youk. Next man up mentality, we're going to beat you downand you're going to come out and you're going to be tough. You know absolutetough love, you know came to a point like you walk, walk bymy head coach. You didn't recruit me because I kind of got this last minuteoffer I say hi to him. You know he looks the other way that was kind ofhow it was so never really felt like I belongthere like. I deserve to be there, and so for me it was a tough place to play.schoolwise was awesome, had fun Ilike Party, and so that was cool, butArizona was kind of opposite way. You went there. You Os had to sit out aheare so that I played baseball for a year. I tried I try to get it back. ManTak in two years off was not easy. You Lose Thi Swing, pretty quick. I playedone, you know the summer balls well in Phoenix and the heat and man that wasthat was blazing hot, but came back from that and I was playing both sportsand it was just crazy man. I lost like twenty pounds doing it, because I wasworking out with both teams. I was...

...practicing with football, a doingdouble headers with the baseball team and I just hade to give one up. Iwasn't playing that Arizona was number one in the nation at the time, and so there was there's just really nochance of be playing at that time with, without you know, playing for the lastprevious two years. I just didn't. Have it still so I passed up on that opportunity wentback to football and completely different different. I guesscoaches style there. Now everyone was there wewere having a good time,wrhoving fun. I felt like I deserved to beve there. Iwas able to kind of make a role for myself came in out a fullback positionwhere they were only using it about seven plays a game or first game. Iplayed fifteen plays had a touchdown second game. I had twenty five playsthird game. I had thirty to forty plays and and that's how it was man kind ofkind of built, my own spot there and- and it was it was just a good time andsomething that I went into thinking that was kind ofthe end. For me. I never thought I had a chance at the next level, but I justkept grinded man and the opportunity came and- and I took it and that wasactually going to be. My next question was it: Like: was your goal to go tothe NFL or not, or you were just like, I'm just going to play d one and thenlike regular Jon, so yeah man, my goal was to get the best education possible.So I went, and I got into the business school is one of two players and theteam that was in the business school at the time you had to actually apply toget in, and so I was one of the two and I saidMan I'm going to get best agree a CANSO. I got an accounting degree and Ifigured hey man. If anything, I have all these extra credits from summerschool that we have to be after football know. I can just take courseor two more and I' have enough to get us oe the try out fo take the CPA exam,so I figure that was my best opportunity to make six figures prettyquick out of school, so thatwas kind of my goal at that point, so I neverthought never thought I make it to the next Leevwel. I was always told thatman, it's a one uded a million shot right, wan in a million to make it toTNFL, or I mean it's probably ods are...

...probably even worse than that, and youknow for me. I couldn't even get a college scholarship. You know I wasn'teven the best in my own family, I wasn't even the second best in my ownfamily, so I just didn't even think it was even a chance you knowlso shortestsmallest and probably the slowest in my family as well. So just didn't think itwas in the cards for me, but it wasn't like. I was just going to give up on itman. I was always going to put my best at everything and- and I did and whenthe chance came, I just I just jumped on it yeah now. What was it like? Just goingthrough the process of, like you know the predraft with your brother. It wascool man, so we got the train together. We trained it in Miami fortor. TogetherI was, I was pretty banged up for my senior season, rob missed his entirejunior season, so we're both kind of fighting through injuries and pushingeach other o to the limit, really to try to be the best that we could forformio was proday. I DHID GE invited to the combiand for him it was actuallyended up being proday as well, because he wasn't able to perform yet at thecombine so prep prepp was. It was intense man. You know it was reallythree months of stuck in a hotel and and mangl was toget healthy. O get faster, gets stronger and be this most the mostappealing athlete that you possibly could for draft day and then justleading up to it. Man We it was, it was pretty crazy because you know rob wascoming off of season ending injury. He 'd only reallyplayed sixteen games in college and he declares to the draft early. So therewas a lot of just big big question marks there. You Know First Browntalent, but you know medical history that could drop you severely down in the draft. So when the first day went by and we werein New York City- and you think it drafted, it was it was, it was a toughday. You know it was a lot of uncertainty there and we didn't know Wat was going to happen. So I ended up going second round the next day. We allgot super excited after that. Flew home.

Had A little party I didn't get drafted. You know. I knewthat it was a very unlikely possibility that I would, but I was getting callsesduring the draft and the second it ended. It was almostalmost a blessing for me that didnk it drafted because it allowed me to thenpick the team that I actually wanted to go to, whereas my brother Dan, he got drappedo the second mass draft, the second maps pick of the draft and he got stuckin the situation where you know. There's a lot of good tight ends infront of him and the only reason they took him was because it was a value pik.You know he was the best talent that was left in the draft of that time. Itwasn't necessarily a position they needed, but get back to wha, Iwas kindof hitting out before the second. The draft ended T. I already knew where Iwas going to go. My agent did a really good job and- and I signed with thecowboys within maybe a minute or two after the draft- ended yeah h. What wasthat feeling like just signing with the Dallas Cup ways and know how a storytheyare man and it was like it's felt surreal. Man, like you,did't, even think it was really happening because you know all I heard growing upis America's team and they were just so dominave and they were they were beastman, and so when I heard that I just wasn't really getting calls from themor that much interest from them, so I didn't really see it coming either andthen just kind of out of nowhere. You know my agent hits me up and says YeuDidn Te. You just said we're signing with them. It wasn't like Hey Youk,these five other teams, because there was I mean I could have probably signedanywhere at that point as a an undrafted preagent, because they wantcamp bodies, man, so they're rlooking for him, but Yeah Hou just called upand said Hey. This is the right opportunity for you. I've done myresearch you're going to Dallas and I was like man. Let's go, let's go bad.Let's do this and then yeah. I know you played wellactually. What was your? What was your first game in the NFL like? Were youlike nervous, or was it just another game? Man Yeah Hell? Yeah I was nervous man,I was. I was Shakeng on my first play.

My first start was actually so I didstart the first game. I was a actually in a like a backuproll, but we had a package in where I was the third tight end. So I startedthe first game and then the first game are starting Tigr started, fullback gothurt and they released him after that. So my first true start at ffoback wasagainst the bears and I was lining up against man's brigs and Brian Erlacker.So my very first play was an ISO up the middle against her lacter, and I justremember, having my hand on the ground and my whole arm was just shaken man,because all I was just I was just ready man I was just you know it was thatmoment under the lights of first play and all the nerveseewere getting to me.Man- and I expected this massive messofe hit up the up, the middleind aended up being just I guess, a lot less dramatic than I thought I was going tobe someone like Brian Erlacker Isin in his fifteenth year and the NFL, becausehe's filling holes and smashing headstill. You know he's in the Leaguefor fifteen years because he's a smart player. He knows how to use totechnique and he knows how to fill a gap without hurting himself or otherplayers. So you know that that first play I was just really just a really technique. Doun play byBrian Orlacker to just fill the whole, do his job and get onto the next play.So it wasn't like this massive hit head collision or anything like that andItas kind of. Like Oh man, you now, I was expecting like a tank to hit me andit was kind of just another normal play, yeah all right, so I know you playedfor the cults Broncos and chargers. Also after that, like what like, did yourefire or you just? Are you just wanted to go into the business world or likehow id what happened after that yeah? So I I finish up my wookieg contract, so I actually continued on when I wentthrough those three teams, so I I signed a three year deal after that. Ienended up signing wo chargers about...

...two months after my conttract ended sosigned with them a one year deal and in Camp I got hurt, so I had a highegoesprain. Ridy Brown fell on the back of my leg and practice and at that pointman, your damage good. So most of the time, unless you're, areally good player, t they're going to release you, so they had to release mewith an injury settlement if they wanted to get rid of me. So at thatpoint I had three years credited to towards towards my retirement, so I wasactually already had pension. I already had kind of what was a dream for me.Like an amazing start for me, and when I got hurt, you know they offered methree game salary which gives you a fourth credited cheason. So you have toat least play in. You know three games or you have to be hurt. You know for at least three games, sothey offered that up to me, I took it ended up being more like a three monthinjury instead of a three game injury. So I work through that. I tried to comeback and went to Miami for a tryout ran a forty on my third step. I ructure myhamstring and at that point it was hat surgery orkind of just hang it up. Man and it wasn't like a bunch of people wereknocking on the door. For me you know it was kind of you know Iwould have had a grind. I would have had to really work really hard to getback into the game. So that point my wife's business at thattime that she started when I was in Denver started to take off, and I wasdoing a lot with her and wewere actually making really good money tothe point where my first year outside the NFLS was making more money with herthan I was playing. So it's really easy traansition for me right into thebusiness world, EA Ye h. It seems, like you, had your mind on it like waybefore then abill anyways, yeah man, I always had A. I always had a secondplan, man that the Ol Plan B, even when I was playing because I knew I wasn't asuperstar man, every contract that I signed. It could be boyed that day, youknow. If I wasn't on the roster on a Wednesday, I wasn't getting paidanymore, so I had no guaranteed money.

Y, U N! My three year. Contract meantabsolutely nothing so Yoa. If I showed up late or it's one bad play or one badgame, O I'm on the street the next day. So I always had a plan B, not because Iwasn't all in but because I knew I was in a position that isn't even neededanymore. Man Know there was twenty eight starters in the NFL at the fullback position. Four teams did even carry one and all the teams that Iplayed on. I was he only full back on the team. So U, the second! I got hurtlike I did an indie and had pek surgery know they just used a y o a tight end,it's what it came down to. So there was definitely a disposable position, so Ilways had a plan B ywas actually to go into taxes. When I was playing, I sawan opportunity where these are players that are making a lot of money they'repaying in every single state that they play in and they don't know how to filetaxes. They don't know anything about it because I've neverbeen there before. So the CPAS are getting some really good money todo it for Hem, and I saw that as a great opportunity as someone that didit themselves, while they played you know to come in and be a trustworthyperson that can get hem a good tax return. So that was my initial plan andthat all change man really quick, yeah all right. So before I asked you aboutIce Shaker what advice? Would you give to like ayounger kid trying to make it to a league or make it our make? Our get abe one scholarship man? My advice would be man, speed, speed,meend, speed all day. Man Speed kills like they say my dad h d brought in a speed coach forus when we were in high school. I went from a five Voto, a five hundred andforty guy down to Yoo four seven to a respectable time to a to a time thatwould get me a scholarship. You know as what it would come down to. If I ran afour one, I'm sorry a five one or five ore. Forty, it doesn't matter what mygame film, lookd like at my size. In my...

...height, I was never going to get ascholarship anywhere, so I think speedman speed, agility, O get thatwork in and when you're young you culd make so much improvements, because youjust don't know you don't have the form. You don't know how to do your starts.You don't know how to run correctly and so get someone in there that to showyou you'll dramatically change in one summer really is what it camedown to and my dad brought in this guy. He trained four of us, my oldestbrother. Actually, I guess Yeah Yesh, sorry for my youngest brother was tooyoung at the time, but four of us a couple of our friends. We started withlike seven guys and the next year he was. He was at four high schools. Youknow trading entire tire groups in teams because it was so successfulbecause people saw dramatic increases in our performance. So to me you knowdoing the speed, training, agility stuff just being able to control yourbody. You know is what takes you that nextlevel, so a lot of ladder, drills, a lot of speed, rills and just it's jistoverall technique. I think, took US initially. You know to that B, onelevel andthat's awesome I mean especially forthat guy too yeah man yeah. It was a good littlebusiness for him going into the Ice Shaker. How did howdid you think of that and like yeah, what made you want to create your ownbrand yeah man? So it was a daylike today in Texas, over a hundred degreesout. I was at the gym and man my bottle was just it was warm tasted awful andit's making little sweat rings on the ground. I'm like there's gotta, besomething better out there Thas, probably the third bottle at you tsaitday, because I brought one to work. You know I brought one to the gym and Icome home and use a different cup or whatever, but I just really wanted onebottle that I cul use all day every day, no matter where I was so you' at workat the gym at the pool on an airplane, I want to be able to just easily fillit or easily clean it and then have the ability o to make a protein shake orwhatever, on the go. So that know I...

...wasn't relying on Juk. I could justthrow some powder in my bag and at any moment you know just make a quick shakeif I wanted to so that was orbroad goal was able to make it out a kitchen,great stanley, so one obsorved odor insulated. It sod keep the drink coldfor over thirty hours and or hot as well, and so I just said man I'm justgoing to make the best cup that I possibly can for myself and anyone else.That's just trying to live in N, active and healthy lifestyle. So it was mypassion. You know I was working for my wife. It was amazing we 're doingreally. Well still, are the company still growing, but at the end of theday that was her passion and my passion was sports and fitness. So to me, if Icould, you know basically write off a gym membership and make some videosevery day of me working out and call that a business know I'm all in sothat's kind of how it started in and fouro four years later, we're justcontinuing to grow and it's been. It's been a fun ride. Man Yeah! Definitelyhow many prototypes did it take like of the bottle man it took took forever in really theprototypes were more of the seal than anything when you, when you attach ametal bottle anything to metal it' just hard to seal it. So you got to get thefeel right, and the last thing I wanted was a bottle that weeks, so we wentthrough seal after city up to SEO like man. I just want to make sure we getthis right, because every metal bottle on the market at the time which therewas other metal bottles, but they weren't insulated. So you know if youbought a Shaker bottle that wasn't inflated, it was metal, it's aconductor, so it's a conductor, ofpeat and cold, and it's absolutely freezing.If you put ice in or burn your hand if you put hot in it, so I did look at the reviews on that stuffand people liked thim. But you know they would burn or frees herhands, but the biggest complaint was the leaking. So I just wanted to makesure that that didn't happen. So it was a lot of prototypes I'd, say, probablyabout fifteen different seals and then different bottles. An we probably hadlike five or six different bottle types as well before we finally made adecision and pulled the trigger on it:...

Okay and then yeah. How did you guysend up on Shart, gine man, so pretty cool story? I had anemail from my agent when I was playing in Denver, so two thousand and twelveand just simply said, hey know SAR thanks looking for any former currentNFL players to come on the show. If you have any ideas, they love for you tosubmit him here. So I saw it. I love the show. I watched it all the time andI put the you know I starred my email yeah. I didn't even know what email wasreally at the time. I never used it but yeah I put it. I put a star on it. ManI just said man. One day, I'M gonna go back Ackand, I'm going to find thisemail and I'm going to hit it back and I'm going Ta have this great idea andso fast forward. It ended up being four years later, when I thought of the idea-and I was like I- I'm Gointa hit him back up bat, I'm not going to hit himback up. Yet I'm going no wait, I'm going to wait until at least havesomething that I could show them. That's has some kind of proof ofconcept, some kind of sales on it and then I'll hit him up so actually waited waited about three months until we hadat that time about twenty five hosand to thirty thsand and sales, and I hithim up and immediately got this response back like hey. It don't workhere anymore. I was like Oh man, you know I had all these hopes and dreamson this big game plan and she don't even work there anymore. They probablydon't even want players anymore, and you know within five minutes she wroteme back and was like hey. I did find the girl that works. There now took myspot. You know here she is and introduced me to her, so I was able tomove forward with the process. They asked for a video submissionimmediately. So I made a video of me working out catching Touchon pastesfrom NFL, ripping off my shirt like everything I possibly could think ofjust to really make this video stand out and be entertaining because the endof the day it's entertainment show- and I knew that so I wanted to make surethat I was entertaining enough and sen it in waited about five days, and I sawa bunch of Yo know people viewed it because it's actually through youtubeas an unlisted video. So I saw the busind man within I sat sat on my phoneand within a couple hours, ay called me...

...and said: Hey that was awesome like welove to move forward with you and a lot of a lot of Papler work later n. Acouple months later, I was able to get on the show and the rest was history.Man went from at that time got it up to about eight thousand and sales. When Igot on the show in the first six Monts so six, eighty thousand firt six monthsof the company and then after Sharktak in the first twelve months, we did overthree million in sales, so really just took it to the next level, manovernight, huge proof of concept. In with that, you know, amazing, you, probably tentheandy, fifty hundred x, you know the business overnight, but the work withit. Also you no ten twenty thirty. Fifty hundred ax overnight as well man,so I became Yo, became full time. Job was just a Sidehouseo before that youkno everything was stored in upstairs in my house here and just became afulltime thing immediately, and I had to adjust really quick to keep the keepthem on come going and then how? How much time was it fromfilming to the release date of Sharkkin an so it was. It was a couple months, so the thing they don't tell you isthat I guess that most people don't know is that they won't tell you ifyou're going to actually air or not so you record you git a deal whatever. Itis you, don't actually know if you're going to air so only about seventypercent of tha air is about thirty percent that don't so my stacking up onAmatour you're taking a chance, you take it a risk, and you also don't knowwhen you're going to air, so they won't tell you until two weeks before so. Forme, I was like man there's no way we're notgoing to Arr. You know the whole family came on. My brother was on like theywere looking to bring in people that could bring a bigger audience to them.We're going to err like there's a hundred percent, no doubt about it. YeaWe got a deal. We had all five sharks offer. We played Flip Cup on theshowman like we did it all. So, I'm sitting there like there's no chance. Istacked up man. We took that time that...

...three months to make a new bottle. Youknow to improve it, to upgrade it and get it in and we got it in about a weekbefore the show aired and we sold out of all of our old old stockwithin thirty minutes and it was on to the new bottle. So it was a great wayto kind of just convert over to this new bottle in this new model and justpick up a huge customer base overnight. Yeah, it's awesome and now you made thedeal with Mark Cuban and Alex Agrigez. Are they still involved today? So marksteam? Is Ye so yeah man marks? I talked to thempretty much every week, if not multiple times aweek, Alex Rob. Actually my brother bought Alex out when he retired, whenrob retired, so rob retired. He wanted to get in the business world. You knowhe really helped me get to where I am today, as well, with just promoting theproduct coming own shark tank and even bringing in the locker room with him.So you know he reached outout and just said: Hey Alexy know we're family. Iknow you're all about family values as well. We love working with each other.You know her any way that I can. I can buy your shares, and so they made acool deal. Rab went on you now barstool with with Arad, and he also did one ofhis fitness APPs with thim and in exchange he allowed him to buy theshares back so we'r pretty pretty cool trade off, but it's now rob rob and Iand mark human that's awesome so yeah. I didn't even know that Allare, you ready for some fun.Questions are Gonno, go from average stavage. Let's do a man I like it. I'm alreadysavage though man all right, T jer. Have you done jersey, exchangeswhen you were in NFL? I never did I man no on wanted. My DamnJersey. Man Come on Righ, so so here's your chance. So who would you want todo a Jersey exchange with and t not including your brothers man for sure a couple guys I mean I wish I did withpayand manning and when I was playing with him, that would have been greatbecause Yo thatw's cool, but one thing I did get- was stacked up on signe balls man. We havethe option to get as many team sign...

...balls whe want. So I have a mall man,so I have even have the year before with Tebo onit and I stacked up and I have like ten of them. So that's pretty cool, but soI definitely definitely would pay manning man. One of my favorite playersto play with was was the Marcus weare Niuld Iwas, swap with him as well, justa great teammate man and and O he's going to hol famor as well. Sodefinitely definitely those two for sure yeah when you're not running allyour businesses and stuff. What do you like to do in your free time? Man Lift weights play with the kids and man? I don't know like I. If I'm not doingsomething, I lose. My mind man, like I, I consider boredom like a disease man,so I'm always constantly doing something I like social. I think itchallenges me. I think it makes me be creative and I, like the challenge ofit, so sometimes jut seem me, go pretty hard on social media. I go in and outon it, but I find that as a hobby, man like it really is Lik tit createsomething new, each and every day. It is a challenge that really uses yourmind. So I consider that as a hobby as Wel well, yeah, definitely and last one.What was what was more intimidating going against Frian erlacker or thesharks, man hat' Tel people all day man. It wasthat first STARTIN NFL Wan a hundred percent man. I mean someone like EarlLackeris, a guy that I watching high school in May Yo. You were like you O.I was so amazed by him. They show all the big hits like you know, man, I'mgoing against him, and and even lat braks man that's brake. Hewas still bringing the heat he was eight years in. He was still man likeHe. He wanted to leave his mark man, so he was coming hard, but yeah a hundredpercent man, the NFL, is so much more intimidating. The thing with the sharksis that you can prepare. You know you. I had n nine seasons to watch where Icopretty much memorize each and every...

...question that they asked, and I came inso prepared that I was confident and that you'll never you'll never get that.Cind of it is you'll, never be that prepared for for game, because thingschange in the fly y know a guy. They could come out in a completelydifferent defensive scheme that they'd never run before a d man you're justlike wow not have to adjust to it. You know and with adjustments. No, it comesa lot of uncertainty and that's why you can just never never prepare like youcan for for a TV show man, so hallday every day way way way more nervous for my firststar, probably every startman a first kick off. I was always I was on kickoff coverage and I was on the kickoff team so really that first, that firstplay was kind of. I was always always. Definitely you know butterflies, OSuper Nerses, almost like man like you, can't even move you'r kind of frozenfor a second until you finally start running and you get that first hitenand then boom youre, good man, but yeah all day, all day NFL. Ah, actually Igot one last one. Who is there any athlete that you really want to get touse the Ice Shaker yeah? I don't know if o I wouldconsider. I will yeah, I mean he's an athlete, but the Rock Ban all days therock allright. If we get the rocket ioulwhat, a hundred percent, let to getthe rock. You know when I shake her and put the put the big bowl ot it man atthe Brama bull and I love to see him rocket. But I've tried man. I told rob to give himone when he met him and he did, but I haven't seen thit show up yet so that'skind of the one guy that I I wish I could get the product into his hands isdope. Well appreciate you coming on and Oan do what the listeners know wherethey coan follow. You Yeah for sure man so follow me at Chris Grakowsky,instagram, twitter, Mytik, tack, we're actually larging a youtube channel withall the brothers coming up soon, man. So by the time this releases might beout check out the pproduct at IC SHAKERCOMand then at I, sugar bottle on all the...

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