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Claressa Shields | Average to Savage EP15

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This is the fifteenth episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring professional boxer Claressa Shields. Paul Guarino talked with Claressa Shields discussing her Olympic journey, being a two-weight class world champion, and what she wants her legacy to be. Follow Claressa Shields www.instagram.com/ClaressaShields www.twitter.com/ClaressaShields Powered by Darty Co. www.dartyco.com

This is the average this averagepodcast with Balgarino everyone and anyone athletes soet andmuch more. So if everybody back for anotherepisode, averageof savage got another special Gueass, clear, O shields,Clarsa how's it going goodgod good. So, let's jus jump right.Intoictyou tell the vewers little bout yourself, Yaeymp Gomeis, for timeprofessional world champion s tamping to wey divisions, bunch of other titles,Towu just try to keep it short, and I can keep it only twenty three right e yea. So whatwas it like? Growing up in Fli Michigan, I mean Itas a couple different parts. Imean befor BW, Pretty Hard Bn. What my dame was everything kind of startedgoing in place a little bit. So what made you? What got you into boxing andwhat? How old are you was eleven years old N is really astory at my dad told me about Myhamaali having Te Dart Name Lay Lily and my dadused to bok. So I thought he was telling me he wanted me to take out him,so I decided I would try. I Bosi I didn't know that boxing will actuallyneed to spoit. For me, did you play any other Sports Rownup? Oh Yeah freakitsuper hapfly. I play basketball, volleyball, softball, Aran, Trackan,cross country on thing I didn't do was socker wheere you best Ot. Besidesboxing, I was really good at Trak s really good at track, and I was areally good defensive player on Gasketball Yeaso, going into your amtecur your dominant and then two thousand and twelve was the first women's boxingefthat. So when did you like find out about that? They were going to haveboxing for women in the Olympics. What made you want to like train for them?They found out by two thousand and telve Olympics when I was thirteen, sowa TN, eight four years prior Yep and we didn't know about old enough. Yet wejust weropen. You know we just say we wull stay undefeated and you know wefind out the age, the age and everything that de that had to be as egot close to book at the S. Thirteen, we didn't know we're just hoping wedon't find out util, maybe two months before the last foing to Qualifyr intothouand eleven that I was old enough to compete. If I, in the seventeen tothirty four open division, okay, yeah, so you were, you were seventeen at theOlympics or eighteen seteen. Go S your really so you're, really young EA, sogoing there after winning the the gold there. Whatmade you not decide to turn pro and train for the subcat Oulo O wet thatone I first Olympics. It was like that was my dreaming. I Want T, be the firstOman Twenty and let e go my wand. I did that and I thinking like you know Iwant time pro, but it wan't like any direction like we didn't know whichdirection to take, because we really...

...didn't hear about any other femalefighters that were professional like it was like. I was getting more fights inthe amateur and people know want more about me than knew about theprofessional women. So I was like you know. We didn't really know what todoand. I didn't want to go professional ar not be able a fight, you know so Iwult. Maybe we need to wait to woman's watch and get a little bit bigger. Ithentime p Time Po, I didn't start pusuing, I two thosanandtwelvetwothousand and Sixteen Olympics Selinpi go metal to wo thousand andfourteen that's WHA. I made te desision like you know what I want to go back toOlympics and maybe, when I win another Lin to go, Myo they'l they'll have toexpect me. When is boxing because I'll Gev, the only I like, O the last toEnbe I'll, be the only person to want to go. You know that is what I wasthinking to myself, but we had a lot of potential Golt Melis on upon both teams,two Thousandand, twelve and wo thousand and sixteen, but as two thousandandtwelve, I was the only one to win Likigo metal and I was like you knowwhat. If I gon win, another Olympo Mo are going to have to expect me intepros and they're going to have to get Onein Bo to some kind of Bush. You knowB Time, O thousand and sixteen came around. He O knew about Heather Hardyodoing big things. I know bout, a Mena Sarono and those are the only namesthat I had I so far. You know it really wasn't any other name that I knew Iknow Wat my way. Yi was a girl, Nin Cistina Amo, where ie been like a worldchampion for frew years, but it wasn't like she was big and Fiti Ontene Atit.The only girl on wo Thay actually fought on TV was heade hardy and that'swhen we both fought o Ka e the same day. You know fi was taing e lintic finaland he was figting against. I want to say, SI silly Bensa, so you went again in two Thousan andSixteen Olympics and then what would you say? What was it like? Is Jue likethrough that out like going from one Olympics to the second, and I was afavorite everybody I had so many fans. Everybody know that I was the one watch.You know what I mean like. We had KEP on a teams, if I, like you, know, watchthem, but they've like you know, watch the girl. I definitely watch the girl,the big girl hundred and sixty five for fi. Like Iwas the faverate I was. I had Somemaneris, I had commercial n NCOlympics. It was a lot of stuff that I had that was promoting myself, but alsopromotin Womans Boxn Getin, ready, forthetwo thousand and IXTEEN Games, Ersure, which one was harder and your pen das, seventeen years old, I wasofig Iwas, I could barely make Donde sixty fivetimes when I was seventee I was was laying in. I think I fout to find Owaya hundred and sixty two pounds n se to be able toteayou ki was verylittle and those girls were tall like six two, six four, they were stronger.I just saiveter skill, Yaud N. I didn't know how to fight you know, but I hadsaid first on was definitely better te...

Satyo Olympics, I feel like it was awalking apart for me. Like you know, I was a hundred and sixehudred andsixteen five pounds at Sumeer the fights I was. You know it was easy. Iactually have fun in Twentysixteen in two thousand and twelve. I was likeIsalin oeriould like thank God. I get to finally go home when Wo Thousand andsixteen you said, like all the fame and commercials and stuff like that. Sowasn't key added Pressurei. Never let I never lea Te, be adde pressure for me.It WHICD US more rihe. I deserve all tot de can out it because of how theyreally kind of nor Mein Wo Thousand Ad Twelve. You know, even after I was theonly person on TM USA for boxe to win likeaco medal, it was stily o team whogot mor recognition in me Di who did't meddl or you know Marli as Farwanbronmetal like I was the only Electicol, my listebot in twsanty Twelv, it's crazy!It's crazy! You didn't get the press you deserve for that one, and so thenyou made your pro debew in two thousand and sixteen. So what was what was thatdecision like and what was the pro debot like one decide, Ote powas hard, because Ireally would like you only three people in the world that' been tothe Olympicsthree time on one Olympic three times back today, and I know that if I wouldhave been able to go back to two thousand and twenty and I could a didthen, but it as that kind of professional tickme on that you knowlike it wor you like Wen you time, Ofesso, you can't fight inanmerge. Sothat was a decision for me, but I was like you know. I made it because Ididn't want to TDISPAR for Yoas, like I had two Elymticol models: Dont anyperson in America, whoever want to Olentecol model and I'v Ben Bocing, andI just or like I don't want to not fight on C into two thousand and twenty.I you know it was a lot of time after the Olympics. People were like what isCorista doing now. My we have a Saer SA twenty, so people miss me in a Thsandad.Sixteen Lintis, like theyre, like do you till Bu, like a lot of my fan, Maland people like Briting Ein e Lik, do Yout d to Bok. You know we watch tedocumentary. You know like before: o Throuh, Dee Yeah hy W UNAAR you knowvenikn ixteen peoplewere still like kind of like where was hit cause. It was lik. I was fightingall the time it wasn't ever being so anywhere. Soafter all, after all that, like now you're like paving the way for othergirls, so like, what's that, what's that Fen Il Bann, Traa Y, definitelyWen you an the Leagu, you know you, a person leading. I cin have to make myhome route like there is no. There is no boot Pran to being a greatwomansiter, like I say, like Tey. Give me the best fighter ever, but I teellike there's no blue print to the promoters to being on TV. Like there'sY O graen o follow, like you know,...

...coing my weather yeah, my rely for me.I don't. I don't have anybody because I'm the one that's making away like I'me first onn to fight man, Eve, don't show time, fo, Mer, CA, you knsooi meanprokay wo a or x Christi Marin, Abalt like what I should expect. I mean onnot ever AK them wot. How much were they wer the bigges person, and thatsomething I want to known and he told Me Person Liv on O, just just keep itthere ya o surebut. I just like an. Can I really neen to make money doing thisand if I can't make money doing thi what is Gointa be my second job. Youknow, because I wanted to help the sport, but I was like I'm Ha to figureout a second time. Thank God. I didn't have to tat everything kind of aligneditself me having a great manager Partasit, you know, show Tom t beINTERECTI. Ine He've been able to draw a crowd into drug. You were all thatkind of just came weeky. You know, but I didn't know that kin of professional.I thought it was going to be a lot harder and way harder to get on TVright. Tha was on Tome. My second second fighti blade one on showtime. Iwas the Manin Ias like what the Heck it all happen so fast. When I, when I waslike I'm goant to be Ma o show time you to years or something like that, andthey literaly happening three four months of ban a pro Ye. It's crazy andI mean especially now ith soal Mudi stuff. I know there's like a lot of just likelive streams, so it's like boxing in general is just getting more out there.For cin on Eriei mean evenanmen. It was lackin someexcitement, but now I mean women bod a really grown, some asentment back Toboa.It O, like these big matches, a get made and I feel like some of the girlOm Campin with the women. As far as the competition level, like you can't,despite bomb anymore, a get your spake Tha Wan when they goto when Hiy gotwomen when the word can is Funo Gen other world Chancios, like I e GomanaOuification Bo Ans Boi, do in the last te years, I'm like yeah. They SA wo. MEA, that's like one of the dopisthings to just bcause end like it's most like international, too wouln'n isnot just I mean, there's a lot of obviously men fighter that areAmericans here, but I mean, I think, like more international women arecoming over here, too yeah. So in your fourth fight, you found Nicki Haddlerfor the two R, the super world, heavy immens, the Super Middle Weight WorldTidles, and then you defeated her. So what was that feeling like Wen in yourfirst World Sidle? It felt like so many people like theydidn't believe I was going to do it. I don't know what they thought like theywere. They were still thinking like that. I was like a sloop or somethingwhich tan we threw me of Ti was like...

...day. I want to Alino Col medals. Likeyou know, I mean I I'm not in geting handed things: rettles O and Gevin fowin the Hallershe wa saying, like you know, soing and WATC Sam with me. Youknow she's the world champion and I need to respect her she's going to showme why Shein the World Chanc, we haven't experience all this stuffAndand, I kind of feel like someony. Nedia was kind of believing which waslike EA, so I justlike really like an Ike makelike no mistakes. That's bi! Now, like no mistakes, an camp is really Du.Dominator ye. When we Wen we fo coming fom first ground, I wer out there bus,I no eter. No, you wa a Youa. You want to got Dow fight and Tus. I USespecting me: I'm got jt q sure now no s on show Tine to right yea.So then, your next flight was Tory Nelson Right, ses M een. She Wa she wasanother undefeated Fighterdeen, Defende your belts and then now your last play.You went down to middle weight, playing in Gabriel San to win two more times solike. What's next for you, if you won all these times, aready WCO, O Godown and wait because the girlthat wants you, O ge, won't fight. You know and that's not throwing any likekind of shape has just tru like tose girls. You know it's so hard for you toget ap Pi like I've, never wont five bocks without having a fight. Even inthe amateurs who you know S, bout geingthe age, so o TN, seventeen orsixteen I've een fight like consistently and then a tin pro anisgies Hav everysis in the world tat spike et ow name, the girls from AliNapoleon sover, kill Miller to Mare Tailecorneo to all those girls. Theyall give me. You know reasons to what they can't fight me, O. Oh there nighttaking our rout right now: Yeur Pike Els, you know all test, be, as you know,just to fight Mei'm liket, I'm trying to fightthe bet, and so I went down to one sexty because Christina Hammer feelsthat she can eat me and she kept saying she dan't want to come up to ANC DA,because that was too big for her and then she thought I couldn't makehundred and sixteen like. I don't know why she thought that like I's literallyeight Houns, but she things I'm just so huge and so fat. I don't know what'swrong with and I'm like, I can make e hundred and sixty pous. I fought athundred and ity five for six seven years dude. You know so going down tonwatchin Ye Lek. You know what I want to fight her and I want to be her. A ofher excusee want to be thet, I'm, to wit, I will go down. You know for allthese girls sat o Ou to bang. For Them I will go down so I went down onethingan bought against Hane Gabriem, an she. They will come up and people and Ifeel, like people, don't give me enough credit on that wind, ecause, Lik yeah.She Nok me now but wo, but when I got...

...up yeop, don't reallize how big likeshe was she's, not the reason she be Alos Gi that on fifty for is becauseshe's so much stronger than them. I mean like her leg and our arms were Arlitrally bigger in mine. Like you can seit, you can see e different, like I'mkind of more Blian and hall, an she wolk like his back like ot big legsmean not just big Carin di. You know at I mean like she's, like super woman orsomething like to like he as tuing. She was togging ever and then you know hercoming up inver more strength. I would literally like letme had to start tomake the last three pounds an one tin me because I because it just wouldn'tcome on, I get a hundred sifte pounds. It would not come off. I would likewhat in the world is going Onso. We so much commotion around that fightliht.So much just like with everything with Nex Tuff, you know it was. It was somuch thut that just wasn't going right, but at Figtin I wasn't able to Bokuslike I wanted to, but but I like, I, my gon was needed and you know igoer. I Giv er problem because IVnever been dropping up, not even Bya male hooking grat ter on that, but I ene got back up and I be titr night around straight and I want anythingyeah. I think Thot, probably our best point. No so fa say you FL, though Ivers so tat, likeput you on another level yeah. So I know you mentioned Christina Hammer, soyou think when do you think that Woiy wappen Hahpso hat's Gonta be your nextweek Yep overall, like? What do you want yourlecy to be you Kniwan e know me a the greatest woman, AAll agine. You knowthats Mo US credit anyone, but the history that I've made the history thatI'm making the way that I'm advancing at woman's boxing like I should havebeen gon o SB already like I should have been nominated as one of the BASfemale figters of the year lite. I should have been in that top way beforenow, and you know I just I just have to do all that. I can't make it muchhistory, as I can make you know, so. Your the women that' coming behind medon't have to work it hard. I work like you'll be surprised how many demans Ihave to make, because sometimes they sometimes they really don't think aboutit. Like I rearally Hade to like keep reiterating like whatever you do, forthe man do Perte witmen, you know whatever you do for man's udicationbout won for man, wod, wo world world, tid, O Plihe, dofor me and some stuff h.They don't even realize you, like. I ive brought so many things to thepromoters into into show time attention theylike. They can do like they can'tdo anything but like just respectit and e's like Oh, we didn't even like theyliterally don't think about it and I'm...

...not Goinno, but it jus because I neverhad to you know. Woman's Bosi is just getting on e seing. Like I ob said youknow, WBSE has a commercial right, thial theMENWBC champions, and I'm like your? U, like? U? Women need to have our own WBcommercial, also, he Rasson buildit Yeah Day an Tey Ik. I SAII. They don'teven think about AE, think about it before so, when I shaid it to o Ne Ohwow you're right, we have to. We have toe something to give it. You know wehave to do something, but they can think about it first and- and I justloved them so much because we even misson to them like even with showtime.You know I'm, like you know I di four hundred and KK US my bast fight, I'mthat's the most views that I woudman fint on TV had never gotten othing handte from what I heard and I'm, like you know, that's without the two month.PREC conference, like we didn't, have di the fes confernce to month beforeFike, but SOM porter in them did like the way they go was sit down, toandbeing like all the promotion leading up or their fight like we didn't have that,but I was able to get parten an Kan yus, though you know, because the promotiona I do for myself, but an some of what they do also but Iwoul like justimagine. If we would have had that to mart build U Di Foris Wulh, we wouldhave to press tonin an you would have had the you know, faceof and everythingtwo month before, and they had the commercials and all that stuff, and Ijust mentioned that to them, so they can know like e's, not like I'm. Just Ikeep on Te reinroulook like the word. You know Popl Wanc, you do for theMildo for women and I mean like really I don't. I don't know what the womenbefore me did, but they really didn't speak up Enoug, because if they did, Iwould have to cee like doing what I'm doing Li I have to Figta good at alsomake sure I fight for wome fucking. At the same time, yeah this on, I mean Ithink it's a lot easier nowadays, bit obviously social, media and stuff, likethat, did you ever think about ever pissing, like all women's cord, absolutely, but I like the fact thatWyu'i don't pleasefor Al Womens, boxin car, I'm more prech for more than onewomen's fight on a card like I really want, like hi an start playing likewomen as the TV opener for a lot of bots Yeu just put is on TV, Anhe wrotea me Te, Mainin or whatever just not putting us on TV and I' rying to givebother women chances to be the main event. Also, you know not just wittiting me, but you know, Christiana Hammer was Isin Hammeratory, Nelstonwer the Comanvin or show time that's e.

...first time every o et Dos ben done. I mean your pretty history pretty muchlike everywhere. You go rightsoand thenasoothe, other promotions. Otherpromoters are getting involved, also like Esbean shown, Mari Cilicorneo andSinisa toer bad, tent, yea, pnnow and also mccalle Maor Hbo just showed theirfirst Hemal TV belt, withwic till you Bocyo firss callyres. You know so its getting some noisethey're seeing that women bucking can get Yeu people want to see. As we havereally loan fans. We just have to keep Wu, keep pushing the keep adtingdefinitelyready for some fun questions, yeah yea! So How d you go your nicknameto reck? Well, when I was eleven Iwas issupergressive had and I a Shorta, andI was g o any show. They say when I used to be like trying to get them andI couldn't reach them. Alit, like a Te raks who gave you that Nic Aryan lowhatabout. Would you ever fight in Anmamo Questioni? Don't they were to come overa boxing? I don't think I wu get intide of the cage yougot to so you find a m afighter. Muckin yeah, okay, fair enough. What about what do you think you bedoing? If you weren't professional boxer Itink, I wil be running tracker.Singin Rigt, you, like o sing, yeah, you good. I don't know you have to cometo Arryo Thee, Yogoyou G, O cary, OV, nigh yeah,all right. So what about I mea? Maybe that's not do a lot of people know youlike to Singa Weni G, my daynlife wit show time awe carokshow. I think somepeople know black O, like Broa Know Obi. What's one thing that people might notnot know about you besides singing them pople know thmuchsuer friendly, likethey like left box and go to their hands when they dink of me, like theythink that e look at me like I'm Superan intumlating, and that I' mean,but I'm probably one nice e box you to go nee like I take pittet on my fans. Ianswer my Fammel, I'm like freaking. I, like wity, Nice Youyou answere me came on the podcast.Righthaieowho needs an advice like I. I respond to my Fan alact. What about? What's on your playlistright now wik you, you know what I've really been in: okay, beyone, Shit, n right now. I like Litle Dono, dobetter. I like right now, I'm listening to Bob IlbianSky, and I love that Drake Elevat. Okay, Yoo! Doyou do KK, Chons or not yeah, you guys...

Ono. I don't think I seen it mean.There's like a millon of themsolright, well appreciate you coming on the showand tell people where they cal follow. You Yeah, you guys feacl shonlinesocial website on twitter, cloranse, shiells, Antram, Clarensi shields andFacebook, Car Shi and you're definitely going to be back in the ring before intwothousand and eighteen. Yes, all right appreciate you coming on Yehthanks FA.

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