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Cole Wright | Average to Savage EP18

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This is the eighteenth episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring NFL anchor Cole Wright. Paul Guarino talked with Cole Wright discussing his career being a sportscaster, thoughts on the NFL players protesting the national anthem, and the future of digital media. Follow Cole Wright https://www.twitter.com/ColeWrightNFL Fueled by Lawless Jerky https://www.lawlessjerky.com/

This is the average to savage podcast with Paul Garno. Everyone in anyone, athletes, sweats and much more. WHAT'S UP, everybody? On back for another episode of average of savage podcast. Got Another special guests, sports anchor currently with the NFL network, Cole. Right. Cool. WHAT'S UP, Paul? Is going on? Man, glad to be on the show. Yeah, I appreciate you coming on any time, any time. So what's just jump right into it. So could you give us a brief background about yourself? It's funny because you know I obviously cover the NFL, but you know I have a pretty pretty deep baseball background. You know, I played baseball and in high school and college. I played a little independent professional baseball after college and you know, it's it was pretty much baseball that allowed me to be able to do what I do now, you know. And then after college I moved downtown Chicago, waited tables and it kind of sent out resume taps and it took him almost, you know, a little bit over a year for me to finally get that first job. And I did and it was San Angelo, Texas, and a bounce from Texas spot to Texas spot to bat and Rouge to working in Boston and then at ESPN and then Fox sports one and you know, now I feel like I found my home in NFL networks and definitely, definitely quite the journey right there. Absolutely know when you've lived in county college and all the jobs I've had, I've lived in nine states and realize that I'm like nine states, like it's a lot of different real estates to see man. So you know, it's I was women. Whenever I have someone that works on a show with me that that's new or where you know I've met him before, I would like to say where you're from, where'd you go to school? Yeah, and when I worked in when I was in Bristol. Could be to be like you say that every single kid that they walked in, he or anyone that's just meet and I'm like, well, that that you can find a common thread. Yet lived in nine states. I mean I could have lived in one of the states that they lived in. You know there's two, so roughly a twenty percent chance where they've lived before. Or maybe I went to you know, I've gone to went to four different schools, so maybe there's a chance that you know, I know someone who went to school, where they went to school or just it just makes the conversation easier from the very, very beginning. So yeah, for sure. I mean I think that's a common question to but I don't know what. Yeah, could you tell us what your daily re routine is, when you're going to go on are that day, for instance, you know, Sundays I do Game Day highlights. This year I do with Chris Rose and myself. It used to be Steve Marry Ugi and and me, but you know, Steve Moves. Want a little bit of rest, you get something does that morning show. So he has to you know, you have some downtime. so He's not being a burn the midnight oil every day. But you know the routine is. I you know, I get there right around thirty. All the game started at ten. You know, I pretty much I have a an old school composition book that I write all the Games in and as the game goes on I take notes. Who scored, you know, who caused this turnover? Who did this, who did that? If I'll check the box scores to if you know if there's a play that I missed this. You know you're watching like say this Sunday they're nine games at once, but you can't, I mean I've only got two eyes. I can't watch nine games. So you know some games are going to get away from me at first second. Then you just see, you look, let everything filter back in and then you grab some food and you know what, a little more the game thinking. And then I go back and I watch the the first set of highlights once the early pack of Games is done with, because you know we're going to be on the air and a few in an hour or two and you know want to make sure you have you lay the set eyes on some of those highlights and been after that. You know, I get dressed, go on set and you know you really need to be into with our producer. That's they he's my producer, Jason Brooks, be on a Sunday and Monday night for that man of the postgame show is he's my eyes and ears, like you know, you know where you're going, as long as your producers in your ear. Like you know, sometimes a lot of shows that scripted rundowns. We do, but it's looks loosely based because the the late games sometimes they might not be over with and once they're getting done with boom. They both send us a highlight and then the show could go left and we thought it was going to go right. So the preparation is pretty much the same and you know, just keep your eyes in your ears, you know, feel on the Games, make sure you know what you're talking about and it's say...

...in touch with your producer and your researcher. Yeah, for sure. So how did you pick to become a sports anchor, as your career kind of was the result of failure, I give. I guess I failed at it being a professional baseball player. So that's what led me to want to stay somewhat close to the to the game. Yeah, you know, I said to myself, you know, if I'm not going to be it was all was what you're in the on the on the back burner. It's always what I thought I wanted to do. But once, once I got released from playing baseball, it was what do I do now? And you know, I had some interviews to sell pharmaceuticals and I was like this doesn't sound fun at all, like you mean. Any my mom runs a vetnair hospital and she has for almost thirty years. So I would have probably sold pet meds. I would have been walking, driving around Chicago Land Area, walking into different, different veterinary offices, trying to sell them, you know, a mop of silling for for whatever. And you know, didn't get get that job. And you know it's probably better than I do. It's maybe, maybe two instances of failure. It didn't make it as a baseball player and no one hired me as a pharmaceutical rip. So I just started setting my tape out from college. You know that I I didn't work extremely hard on because you only had so many times to make a tape in college. But then I was lucky enough to get paired with my mentoror at NBC in Chicago, Art Norman, and he was able to get a resume tape reshot for me, which ends up being terrific. You know, I went to a the NABJ unity conference in two thousand and four and in the Washington DC and a week later I had a job, that I had a job offering. They told me that I got home on Sunday. They called me on Tuesday they say we've got a job for you as a weekend sports anchor. They told me how much I'd be making, which was I mean, you need to magnifying glass to see it on the paper and that time and said you get if you can be here by Wednesday, the job is yours. If not, we'll give it to somebody else. So I don't know if if they were bluffin or what, but I took the job. I waited tables every day until then and got impact everything I could and if it could fit my t cher key and drove down to Texas twenty three hours. Well, that's wild. Sure, it happens super fast, man. So did you go to school for Communications? I did. I did you know? I went to I got my degree from Briar cloof universities, an I school, and just see Iowa and they had, they have a great communications department and when I was there they opened up their brand new integrated multi media lab, they called the IML, and we were literally like five minutes away at that point in time from gateway computers, and you might be too young called away computers, but they were huge back in the day and we had and when I graduated from college in two thousand and two we had the double flat screen TV, I mean the computer panels, and it was you could you could drag from one screen to the next, and that was that was kind of cutting edge, especially for linear editing, to be able to have a two panel computer and to be able to edit across from computer to computer. So we had a pretty high tech, you know, iml and actually crating a modeled their media lab after ours. So it ended up working out as far as you know, the degree in the communications and everything I was able to put in, you know, put them put the work after after school. So you know, I'm pretty thankful and not maybe not in the moment. You know, when you're in school it's like you don't really pay attention to things. Once you get a little bit past you realize, you know, the gifts that you're doing. Yeah, for sure. So, yeah, you put you were doing that while you're playing baseball, obviously. So when did you know? Like while in college? I mean, I know, I guess you said you kind of briefly caught him, but so was that like your backup plan to become an anchor? I don't know, if it wasn't any plane of thought I was going to maybe get picked up throwing and I I was always no working out and still throwing. But you know, you want to know what really made me say, man, I need to get a job one day. But my buddy, if you ever get down the Wrigley Field, my buddy owns smoke daddy right across the Wrigley Field and he has a bunch of other restaurants. Used in my wedding. He was my manager when I worked downtown Chicago. Weighted tables at Bandera, which is a Houston's restaurant. So we will be to hang out we weren't at work. My other my roommate, he runs Kevin UCLUS's Brew House up and love...

...got those. He was working. So my buddies that owns the restaurant, Josh, he called me. He's like a man UN go grabs from dinner. I'm like all right, cool. So there's a place right down the street in Lincoln Park that had they had like a Burger and beer deal. So he picked me up. I saw this on our street where my car was parked. There was a sign that said construction please, you know, move cars or else they will be towed. And it was a construction sign from like the day before. So I looked at him like God, I know they're gonna tell anybody. This is this is already pasted. Do we go a have dinner, come back, still see it to still pay no attention to it. I'm like, I'll move the car. Never mind that. I end up not moving it. Go to bed, wake up. My roommate asked me a man, you give me a ride to work today because I was driving out to the suburbs. Go down to guns downstairs to give them a ride to work and they put him up. A BOOT was on my car because I had a bunch of parking tickets and I was like, I got to get a job here, like start taking things serious, because I'm gonna need to get this boot off of this car. And I got about twenty five tickets, which you know if you do the math. Let's see, that's the coolest five hundred bucks to get this boot off. And Yeah, so, I mean I went to a place called screens because they didn't have I didn't have a computer back then. I went to screens and like and use the public computer in the public domain and send everything out and got in touch with our normal and NBC and Long, Long Story Short, I was I was in watching DC for that first job conference. In a week after that I had had a job. So, like I said, things happen pretty quick that summer and it all started with getting a boot on my car. Money don't stands. I love it. Yeah, so, actually, that's like that's what's crazy about today because, like people don't think about it, and that's why I like people always say to me, like how are you doing all this stuff? I'm just like, we have like technology. I can. You're talking about you gotta go to the library to go apply for a job. Right, exactly, exactly. That's pretty much what it was. That's how it's like funny, but yeah, it makes you appreciate this. Guys that are my age, we appreciate Google, twenty year old, because when we google stuff we remember it like twenty year olds know that Google is going to be there again. Like I'll just go ask the same question again. I'll just forget in five minutes. Yeah, for sure. Oh, yeah, and by the way, yeah, I did. I did have a gateway computer. That was like from first computer at right away. RSONAL YEA was what happened to gateway? What happened? Probably bought it out or something. Yeah, probably, so. I know we we briefly touch it on it at the beginning. So could you give us more detail on your journey from local stations to regional stations? So now national stations? Well, I said in Texas and another job in Texas, which was great because I actually got to cover I mean, shoot, guys are in the NFL now. I mean I covered Ryan Tannehill when he was in high school. I not covered, you know, Cold Mccoy Case Kingdom, like these guys were the the Friday night football games, but I was at my very first job, which is nuts. Yeah, it's awesome. Now, you know, he was said as good as he was last year in the Vikings and to see him on the Broncos this year. You know, I wish nothing but the best for that cat. And it's like going from there, I went to Tyler Texas and then I covered guys like Ryan Mallett and and Gj Kenney and the denaries more like all these guys that had, at one point or another, made their way to the National Football League or, you know, at least the top flight NCAA ranks. So when I was done what I was done there, you know, I was it was it's funny because I my first job at in the middle of a day like I would. Even when I first got there. I still send tapes out like I was, I thought I was. I was way better than what I really was, because I wanted to get out of my first job, like I mean, I legit sent out a resume. Takes to go somewhere else after like a month and a half. So my second job in tyler, one day they called the news room and as to speak to me because they saw my tape. And you know, another job calls your job asking for you and I'm in the newsroom and they're sitting there talking. Ask Me, well, how much money do you make? We want to give you this job. I'm like a can I call you back? I'm kind of have co workers everywhere around me. So I went out in the parking lot. That's what if we all everyone called their office and got on the phone. Call they. They they pretty much lured me away within a day.

Hound like if you come work here, you'll be able to do this, sounds terrific. And that's that's what I did. I went and worked in Tyler and from Tyler the station that the parent company that owned the station there opened up a brand new station in Baton Rouge and, you know, my station general manager said, Hey, we'd like you to be our sports director and for me, that opportunity to cover lsu and the saints and the Hornets at that point is maybe before they, you know, where the Pelicans. You know, that was a dream come true with me. You Love Sports, you want to cover sports at the highest level. You want to cover no professional and top flight, you know, College Sec. Why not? And that's why I was able to do and it seemed like it was just a string of good luck, because, I mean the saints went to the NC Championship game, the Lsu baseball team went to the college rules series that the women's basketball team went to final four after final four, and the Hornets went to the western conference semis versus the Spurs. So you my resume tape look like you know it was. It was unbelievable. I was, you know, it's the perfect storm where all these things were able to come together and I was able to put it on my tape and from there, like I said, I want I went to into the other unity conference that was in Chicago and I got a job at at nothing, you know, so from from Baton Rouge to Boston. KNOWS, two years in Boston and after that just a short trip up the road the Connecticut. I mean you know, you know all about the ninety five to live in new London and then, well before that I lived in the North Attleboro, so north a word new London, because my wife worked in Providence. So I was driving sixty one miles from new London to Bristol every day. And then my wife got a job at ED ESPN. So we lived sixty one miles away for nothing. It's crazy and it's crazy things, especially I'll quickly things unfold and it's just you. You never know. Yeah, actually, my current job. That's my office to the parking lot. That's right. I get all my stuff then I go outside call people. So I know you worked at ESPN and Fox sports one. So what was like the differences between those two networks? And I believe you were there at Fox worts one, like right when they started, right I was. So had the traditional model, you know it Fox wortslide, you know, you traditional highlight show. The biggest difference is there's there's way less personnel at box. I mean obviously you know he's pianism is a machine. Yeah, but there's just so many different people that work on so many different shows. He's the same show from day to day. There's there could be a whole different cast, and that's that's one of the things that sometimes, you know, it's just navigating the waters. Some people are excellent at it, other people are you're not so much to know that that maybe it's pretty it didn't seem like it was the one hundred percent place for me, even though it is the it's the worldide leader in sports. But sometimes it's it's not always the best the best marriage, that the best chemistry, and I feel like, you know, when I went to Fox, it was a little bit smaller, you know it, even though it was still still still a large national entity. It's just, like I said, there as many cooks in the kitchen. Yeah, and NFL network. That's that's the one thing is the one thing about NFL networks me is that we always call ourselves the NFIL network family, like, whether be in summits or meetings or memos, but it really is true, like I really do feel that way. Like you know everybody that works there. You know, you see people, whether it's you're at the draft or the combine, or you know what the owner meetings like, the camera people that, whether that they're coming from New York or whether they're people that they hire just for the event, they're all this. This is good people, not to say people anywhere else art, but I feel like when you work with a close knit bunch, everyone is in it together. Look, everyone wants to want to make sure they pull their own weight for the next guy or they know that whenever that when this person is working on that, they'll make sure they go above and beyond, and I just feel like that's that's the complete definition of a team effort and a family, and that's what we have an NFL network. I truly believe that. Yeah, it's awesome and we're going to...

NFL network. What's it like working with like four NFL stars? It's school because there's they're all they they're all different personalities. You know there's there's going to be there's there to be your guy who's to talk a lot. There's going to be guys that just walk in the room and you say hey and they keep it moving and then you know they're very, you know, personal to themselves. You know everyone. We all have our favorites. I mean I'm biased. Work for them up every morning for, you know, close to a year. But throughout Davis there, that's my guy, man. He's the luckiest Golfer in America. So if anyone ever gets an invite from td to go golfing, I delightfully decline. If if I were you guys, and unless you know you're single, bit your handicap, because you're going to hit a ball off of off of crows and nest. That's gonna, you know, Roll Roll down a tree branch and, you know, and maybe stick on a dove. Speaking the dove's going to end up flying into the hole and just like that, you know he's got he's got an eagle. And how how did that happen? So but yet there's a bunch, like I said, a bunch of different guys up there, you know, and there's there's so many different players that you know the whether they were all of Famer or you know, I am an Egger. There's so many different guys who bring so much to the table into the conversation. And, you know, being a baseball guy, you know, I feel like I can legitimately learn things from them. You know, I've been played football a little bit back in the day, but not at at a high level is as any of these cats. So I feel like when I ask questions that I want to know things, when we're doing a postgame show or we're in the middle of a highlight or something like that, I feel like I'm legitimately asking these questions that the people want to know, because the layman doesn't always know all these things and I feel like when you can bring that to the forefront and flush that out, as opposed to being the guy who who knows all the questions, that it knows that questions and you know what they're going to say. I feel like when you come from a point somewhat of a somewhat ignorance, you know it's a I feel like that really feels a discussion, like if I buy, ask guy will why this as opposed to this, they're going to give you that. They're their genuine answer and I feel like that's when one of the best things with so many different personalities, whether it be all of Famer, you're a guy who played just just a little bit in the League, I mean you're going to get a wide spectrum when it comes to all these cats. Yeah, for sure, that's pretty dope, but absolutely yeah. So what's your take on the players? Taking me from the National Anthem? The whole genesis of it was to boycott. You know, I'm awful treatment. It's the myth that's being perpetuated that it's that these players are against the military. I mean, that couldn't be further from the truth. I mean, you know, obviously Colin Kapernet was instructed by Nate Boyer, a former Green Beret, that to kneel as a form of respect and I don't think any disrespect has been shown. I just it's it's funny how say, you know, sometimes people say, you know, look at look at the disrespect that's shown. But I mean it's eat these people with that. Some of the people that that cats the first stone. You know, they haven't really done a whole bunch to help these troops that they say are being so highly disrespected. So it's as a slippery slope. And you know, I've had people asking before like what are you guys going to do it in the film network, about the about the anthem, and or Colin Kaprick will last time I looked, we had the film network. Aren't in the business of showing the national anthem in highlight packages. I mean, have you ever seen that? Like, all right, let's let's check out brocos raiders. The national anthem was real hot to jump this game off. You never see that. Yeah, so we're not in the business shown the national anthem in general. And second of all, we all were not in the business of putting players out there. Are Reporting on players who are not in the National Football League and unfortunately Colin Kaepernick no longer remember the national football league, so we don't really report on him, and that's says. That's pretty much where it's A. I mean, if it would, could eat still play in the national football lea? Absolutely, will he? That's yet to be determined. It doesn't look like we're going down that road, but I feel think that he could bring something the table for some of the FELTHAM. Yeah, for sure, and I think the commercial would Nike you was like extremely positive message and like in those and I think that's the thing that people were trying to say before. It to do it off the field and then they do it off the field and then they're still gign criticism for it,...

...you know, and I've seen so many detractors from his commercial. You know, the first night that it came out during the game, and you know, to me I have a six year old daughter and sometimes you have to look at things through a child's eyes. I mean, if you were to watch that commercial and you take any negativity away from that, it's almost ay shame on you, because there isn't really no political message that's in that commercial. It's just saying, you know, if you who if you dream big and people tell your dreams are crazy, they're not. There's nothing that's crazy to be. Anything that you can imagine you can do. And I showed that to my daughter. I said, Hey, don't let anybody ever tell you that you can't do something. But there are people told me that he'll never be a sportscaster because too much and you stutter. Yeah, all right, you don't think so we tables and do this. So, I mean it's baseball didn't work out and my feet are hurt enough, tired of coming home smelling like rote history chicken from banderas. So I'M gonna be able to get this at some point or another. Yeah, it actually I thought maybe Colin Kaepernick would take the Chim tebow around go play my league baseball, because I because even thought about that because a pre pretty solid are said he was ninety five off the back in the day. So yeah, I heard I here ninety eight. Go ahead, I heard not. He threw ninety eight at one point. Really Wows Patrick Mahome style. I don't se don't see why why not. I mean if you can see, if you could pitch sport. But I think right now he's fight the different cause where energy is channel that. But I mean if you have to get one of those old school gamble Yankees at that, he's got rocking out. But either way, man saying I just think that the commercial extremely positive. Like I every time I see it, I stopped and I watched it. It's great because, like I said, people said I would never be a podcaster. You know, it's that was one of my dreams. It says something I've you know. You know the fortunately I've been able to fulfill my life and you know it's I feel blessed every day I get to go up there and and do what I do, because sometimes people they come, they get in the bad mood and they're in there, they're upset and it's like I would say, Hey, man, like our job's not rocket science, like I'm not laying bricks, I'm not running the Jackhammer, and there's a lot of people who would love to do what I do. So I'm going to do my job and do with a smile and truth. Everybody is I want to be treated. So that's all I can really do. Yeah, for sure. Now going into like television and like now with social media, live streams, like, where do you think all that stuff going? Saying like the next like five years. I mean they've been saying that for so long. Like the future of TV is online, and you know, I mean you do see online, you know outlets that that they do generate some steam. At the end of the day, TV still TV, like the people that watch TV are going to watch TV. Like I don't want to see highlights the phone. That's just me. Yeah, you know, I'd rather you. Can I get up the speed real quick? Yes, but it is the full story told to me. Know, the chances are, you know that you don't have fully produced highlights shows with where they go highlights into sound in the full screens, into on cams and then when you see that it's just a total package. I mean that's what I really enjoy watching. I always have. And for those four people who say, like, Oh, the traditional highlight show is dead, that's that couldn't be further from the truth, because, you know, Game Day, I like, we get great ratings each and every single Sunday. I feel like the highlights need to be packaged in a manner that someone wants to watch. You have to be entertaining, you have to be a storyteller and you have to be different than everybody else, because if it's the same as what they saw in line, what's the point of watches? I don't even, like really even watch TV anymore. It's kind of weird, but like I still know what's like, everything's going on, just like from social media. I've been in corresponds man for at least five years now. So I'm twenty six. Okay, okay, good.

My nephew just graduated from Nyu, okay, and he is twenty two. Yeah, and he says he doesn't watch TV, he doesn't go to the movies, and I'm like what I mean? Everyone we I mean Netflix and everything. That's, you know, all the all the development and technology when it comes to movie streaming and everything that. That's all well and good, but there's nothing like going to see a movie in a theater. Like yeah, Nice, so go to the meetings. Yeah, I mean there's something about it. I mean, do I see as many movies and theaters as I used to know? But see all the movies d like half a mile from a movie theater. I can't imagine never going to see a movie ever again. Like yeah, we're just watching it on the phone or on your TV. Yeah, but yeah, even like when I was in college and my pressor kept on talking out second screen, second Serien, say and cream, meaning like phone, and I was just like, I'm not watching stuff on my phone. And now, like I'm watching stuff on my phone, I'm not watching like full I don't know. I don't watch full games and stuff on phone, but I'm saying like highlights of stuff yet, but not if I'm watching the game. I don't want me. I just don't have cable too. So that's why I probably don't want to be but I still want it like I use it when I had cable. I've just put on say, ESPN or Fox worts one or NFL network and I would just I would have it on by be on my computer doing something else. Yeah, basically. So that's why it's kind of funny. But the podcast things in general right now, because now I see why everyone's listen to podcast, because everyone's always doing something or like driving a work or going or whatever, and they're just listening to it. So it's almost like everything's kind of going a little backward, because podcast is kind of like a radio. I've never I've been on podcast. I've never done a podcast. I mean, I do know the series that the NFL radio, you know, Tuesday and Wednesday night during the season in the final drive, and I've been on podcasting. Thrill Davis wants to do a podcast. We just haven't actually, you know, put the the Rupport of the road yet. So I'm interested to see. You know, what I did my toes in the end, that podcast water what's actually going to be like. So yeah, it's they're definitely fun and they're different in the way the future from look from it looks like. Yeah, it's crazy because, like I said, I think it's like kind of backwards, but it's forward. I don't know. So No, when you played college baseball and I know you're a huge baseball fan. Is One of your goals to eventually work in baseball one day? Well, I mean this year. I mean I know we followed you on twitter, but you know the surety follow a bunch of people don't know how close attention you pay. dodgers this year. I got to do twenty five games. I did half and half. I did half at the field. Happen Studio, when work for spectrum, when when John Hard tongue, who does the studio shows, and Alan of Rizzo, who's the the dodgers field reporter, whatever, they had one of days off. You know I was I was like I came out of the bullpen right and I had a blast. Man. You know, being that that my roots are, you know, centers in baseball and for me, you know, it's I'm a cup fan. You know, two thousand and sixteen was November two there's one of the best days ever. The fact that since I grew up, since I've been living here, I grew up playing ball with Jerry Harrison Jr. It's Justin Harrison and Scott Harrison all the AIRSON brothers backs back home in Chicago, and so when I first moved here in Los Angeles, I would always call it jerry because he worked for the dodgers and spectrum. I say Jerry, you can use mean me and my my daughter, me and my my wife and daughter up with US and tickets for the game and he always eat. Never any questions asked. You'd always hook me up. So we've been going to dodgers game because I first moved out here, and so my little girls has become like the biggest dodger fan she can. You can do a picture slip and she will tell you every player my name. They need to have a doctor ad on you. You show their faces and she'll tell you their number till you want position they play. So for me it's always been like to see her. He developed this love of baseball for the dodgers and she will go to she said that her favorite thing to do an entire world is to go to a dodgers...

...game. She rather, she rather go to a dodgers game. The chucky cheese been six flags and not very farm with to me that's just fine. Say any time I've ever questioned there's anything she wants to do, let's go to the dodgers and let's go check it out. So, being the fact that I always was going to those games for the last four years, I always had kind of a, you know, a little bit of a rooting interest in the dodgers and lest they played the cubs. Yeah, I was that was here for my cups. But this year, being able to work for the dodgers and D be able to go to the Games, be in the in the clubhouse. You know, I said, my first day working with the dodgers this year I had to do a shadow shift and it was Jackie Robinson Day. Yeah, I covered I've covered Dave Roberts when he worked in Boston, when I worked at Nesson and Dave saw me and he came up and he said Hey, cold man. You know, it's it's great to have you here, especially on a day like today and for me being a guy that at baseball pretty much shaped and molded my entire career and to know that I wouldn't be at this point in my life had it not been for the game of baseball, whether or not I still entrenched in the game, which at that point I clearly was not, but for the only African American manager in baseball to you know, extend that that that olive branch to me and day it's just really big that you're here, especially on a daylight today, and it's like for me being in Dodger Stadium, although Jack Dramas never playing dodger stadium, to be an African American male working for the dodgers in a baseball capacity. Yeah, it was pretty big for me. Like you, it took me a minute. I was like wow, like this is a pretty neat to experience, and especially for my dad make my dad's almost seventy five years old and you know, that was kind of the kind of a neat thing for him, just to know that, okay, the team that pretty much changed America and how America thinks. Well, you know, my son gets to work for them for a few games this year and for me that was that was super cool. And just to see how they've been ups and downs they've been going through this year. I feel like I find myself checking out of the dodge was more than I do the cups, you know, which I feel like it just drive around La. I've got so many cups, hats, I've got me. I've got at least fifteen cups are like right now. They're all dusty. I mean it wouldn't look great if I'm a work for the dodgers are riding around Los Angeles where my cups hat. Don't don't worry, cups, that's you'll be broken out soon enough for sure. So actually that was my next question. How do you think the cups are in to do this playoffs? And I'll ask how do you think of dodger are going to do? I hope in a collision course for another cups, dodgers and LCS. I just don't know if that's how it's going to go down, but I think it both teams get hot at the right time. I think that's that's where we could be and I love to see it. You know, I just love to take my little one to the the world series. That for the cups, one in two thousand and sixteen. I told her, like as I'm standing, does a picture. My mom took a picture of us. I'm I'm holding the NERDS, stand in front of the front of the TV. Of course my back is to my mom because I don't want my eyes. Were sweating a little bit after the cups one, but I didn't need that to be re captured on film at all. So I told him, I told my daughter, I said don't worry, the dodgers will win next year. And then, sure enough, seven games they made daddy out to be a liar. So hopefully this year they can get it done. I don't know if they have the pitching, but maybe you know, it's all about timing. Yeah, at the right time. I don't know if you saw Walker Fuller last night, but that cat zero earned eight innings, was out there carving on the same Louis Cardinals and right now they're there in a time would say, Louis for that second wildcard spot, only a half of game off the rocky. So we'll see, man. Like I said, when I got talk with net Colletti, I work in net Clatti, former Gim of the other dodgers, and he's the Chicago Guy as well, and I told him, I said, man, it's so hard right now to, you know, to not cheer for the dodgers when the cups are my team. And that said, you know what, it's all right, man. It's like he's a cups guy. He works to work for the cups and he said it's it's hard to separate teams that you work for professionally and have a fasted interest in as opposed to teams that you grew up cheering for. And you'll still cheer for the teams that you grow up cheering for, but you'll also cheer for that that squad that you yet that you feel like you have a fingerprint on, and I feel like for this year. You know, whether or not I...

...work for the dodgers next year or whatever it may be. You know, hopefully, that I'll still be able to do that in some capacity, but I feel like I had some kind of fingerprints good team. Like if I walk into the dodgers a house like camping and Justin Turtles, say what's up? Kills Locker right when you get there, he'll give you a head not if I walk in the Cub Locker Room Kill mad the call for security out here a little bit different when you're able to be in touch with a team like that. Yeah, for sure. I know you talked about it, just like it's the same thing with me. If somebody where's my gear, I meet them or something, then I'm going to root for them. You know, absolutely, and then, and then. Actually, even though I hate to say I think, I think the Astros about the best chance right now. I think they their team chemistry is just like unroom their home, where they all look one way, those real fast to the camera. It's next level. And I'm an ex Bregman Guy, man, because you know, I covered lsu when he was at l was Alex Freshman, you know, that's and he was the man from the very beginning. Man, and I mean he's he's the first third baseman the history of baseball with dirty home runs and fifty doubles. Yeah, come on, that's a force. These guys on Houston to that just I mean they hit Ya. I mean you got lea's league and hitting, you know, every single year, it seems like you guys. I mean I haven't been the same size those all to bay since the mid S. That guy, mean, he's unbelievable. You never see it. If you were if you never knew who he was and he walking to a bar riends like yeah, man, like I can hit. I can hit x amount of home runs and it over three hundred every single year. Lead League and hitting you like in what league you're talking about playing with Ricky Vaughn in the California Peen League. Like I don't think so, but I mean, like I said, these guys they put a tremendous numbers Aj and she's done a great job with that squad. So we'll we'll see how it all works out, man. I mean it's good to be like if we can get even a portion of the world series to be like it has been the last two years, that then, were the we're all winners. Yeah, for sure. What's your favorite sports movie and what Your Favorite Baseball sports movie? That's kind of the first move I ever saw in the theater ever as a kid was the natural. Okay, so I kind of have a soft spot for that. And aside from like animated movies, the first real movie that my daughter saw, it wasn't at a theater, but it was at dodger stadium when we first moved here, the first dodger game at her and I went to by ourselves, it was moving on the dodger stadium and of all movies where they played the natural and at that point she was like, I'm thinking, not even three. Yeah, and I have pictures of her and she lasted like forty five minutes. So for a three year old to sit like the naturals not really a kid friendly movie. Yeah, you mean, it's not like it's not inappropriate by these tretchity imagination, but most three year olds are going to be all jack got to see Robert Redford and Kelly but Gillis and Kim basing your you know, get out, get in into it, and the dad from Christmas story. But you know she stayed for forty five minutes and that that movie hole is kind of a special places. Yeah, that's that's when did the switch relief flip for me as a kid? When I really realize, like I I I kind of dig this baseball thing and I said, not been for baseball, I wouldn't be where I'm at today. And you know it covering the NFL like that's that's exact. That's exactly where I want to be in it at this because it's not necessary. It is the sports. I love the NFL and I feel like it's it's the condensation of it. It's the fact that, you know, it's Sunday, everyone's locked in, as opposed to there's a game every single day and it's more of a me like football. The Sprint baseball the marathon. Then you know, I feel like got whether or not I was aver. You know, the way I used to run back in the day. I wasn't really a great distance runner. I can get after it for running the sixty. So yeah, I enjoy the sprint as opposed to the marathon. I like the sprinklings of the marathon. So yeah, to going back into football, do you have any super row predictions? I know it's super early. I tell you what, man, my super bowl...

...for it is super early. But yeah, I pick the saints out of the NSC and their defense looks about non existed. I mean look like a bunch of park cards out there. People's running around them. So I don't know if the saints are going to be but the NFC take maybe I'll go with the Vikings. Okay, I'll pick to my first one. I pick was patriots safs. Okay, my alternate one, and this might be a currball. Might be with me on this one. You might not be, but I'm going to go with Vikings. Chief. Okay, that's what's a bold one right there, bold man, I tell you what, I used to be Patrick Mahomes. I was his his local sportscaster. Yeah, right, TK, channel fifty six and Tyler Texas when he went to White House, and I'm a I'm a fan of that kid man he came into the NFL network. I mean the fact that he had a ninety seven mile hour fastball and shows football ms bold decision because that is free money on the table before any injuries ever occur, and hopefully his career goes injury free, one hundred percent. But I mean if you can say hey, I can get this money right now to play baseball and just throw, I don't have think no one. No one's gonna hit me at all. No one's gonna hit me while I'm throwing. And you know the fact that you you know if your dad played in the League. It makes it that much easier for you to succeed. There's always going to be a scout where somebody that says, well, he's got this potential, like is that didn't maybe he can to, and for him to pass on that to go play football at that Texas tech and it's and that's bike anything away from Texas tech, but Texas tech is not Texas or Lsu or Miami or you don't Miami's the same Miami as they once were. However, Alabama, you know, you know what I'm saying, though. well, T is not the top flight, even though it's the top flight program. You know, if you're going to get you know x amount of dollars that, you know looks close to seven figures to play baseball or play football in loving Texas, I think a lot of cats would use baseball, suppose, when you have a golden arm like that. But Patrick Mahomes know what his fain was and I think he knows that he's the next best thing at the quarterback position. I'm I'm riding with the man. I believe in them. I like this kid there for sure, and I don't know if he got drafted, because I know I obviously usually just dropped anybody just because they had they're fifty rounds. But I know Kyler Murphy just took the money but he's still playing at Oklahoma. Gude Williams finances all collegiate career at University of Texas. So you know a lot of guys he got drafted, took the money and then played baseball in underperform on the diamond and then they be for him to win a husband trophy and and then running up against, you know, Oklahoma and everybody else. So you know, I don't I don't fault. They those guys that I want to do that. You know, he's lean, Brandon weed and played baseball before he played football. So you know, who knows? You know, maybe we'll see stuff. Some guys, you know, make make that switch, but right now, Patrick Mahomes, he's the next best thing doing. I think the day with with all those offensive weapons, I mean Kareem Hunt and Travis Kelcey did were, I mean innocent bystanders on Sunday. Tyree Hill was just the one man wrecking crew. Yeah, I think they're all on the same page. Okay, the city team is going to be nice man. Yeah, really, I really believe that. For sure. You can't forget about Sammy Watkins. Maybe he'll resurrect his career earlier, actually, exactly, and he's a guy, he's a hunforgetting. Forget. Everyone is really paint attention to the fact like Oh, he's not on the rams anymore. Okay, let's see, maybe the rams could still use them. Like, who knows? I mean the ramps look good too, so that's the best part of the first the first four weeks of the season, like nobody knows who's who. Yeah, I mean nobody thoughts going to come on smack this scenaty on Thursday night, because that mean what they think of the bills. But the bills are really, really bad. are of a really bad team. The Bangles, I guess, better than what we thought. Angles are always bangles, are always like there. They just never went in the playoffs. That's who...

...it all and last question. Could you give me any funny stories that happen like on air or anything during during work hours? Well, when I first Q that was the runner to good morning football. It was td, I think, Lavar Arrington and maybe Michael Fabiano run or maybe Daniel Jeremiah, and we hit the top of an hour and I just started. It's been probably I've been at the network for about two and a half months. I've been working on that show for maybe a week and a half and I think it was a Monday show, because I feel like we were going through highlights and I remember I hear an alarm go off and it's sounds like the same. I know td had had a sad song as well, so I live TB. I mean, what do you do? There's a alarm going off full board. So I said to Mike, like, look at this guy. At that point he was just a hall of fame nominee and gotten that gold jacket. Yet I'm like this guy, all of same, nominally doesn't how to turn his alarm off. They're just trying, just trying to play it off online television. He's like that. At my fault, man, that's yours. So just kind of just hit the mute button and just kept it moving and, you know, just but you know, it's it's it's funny how things and at one point in your career, if that would happen to me, like I live TV and Saint Angelo Texas, I probably would have frozen. We would have to go to commercial. But you know, you can get you have your hours under your belt and you you work with a, you know a great bunch of guys that you can all laugh everything off and keep them moving. That's just that's is pretty much where it was. Yeah, it's actually got one more I forgot. What advice would you give somebody that wants to be on there? Get your get your work in. I'm I mean watch watch your games, get your work in and never turn work down, like that's what I do. It's like, you know, it's it's to a point where, you know, I when I first started, before even was doing radio, I always do radio with the guys that cover Arkansas stakes. I used to cover it. Nice to be the Sun Built Guy at East PN. So I see the sun belt conference meetings every year and they have a radio show that's in Jones for Arkansas, and these guys, you know, they welcome me on with open arms. Man. They said we'd like you come on every week. So for two years plus I go on there every week and do radio for free. Yeah, my wife's how you doing? You for free? I'm like, I'm just trying to sharpen up my radio skills, because if you don't do it, you're not going to get any better at it. Yeah, that was what happs. One thing I was took took to heart, you know. You know, eventually, when I got I got the Fox y'alls, lucky enough to have my own show on Sundays with Bill Ryder, who's works on CBS radio now and you're now I have my own radio show on the serious x m every day or Tuesday and Wednesday nights. Tuesday's nine o'clock eastern time and Wednesday's eight o'clock eastern time. So you know, it's it. I said always, always, work. It's because at the end of the day, it's not really work, it's just putting in your time. Yeah, if you can enjoy going to cover a sporting event, whether it be at the high school level or the professional level, I mean if you feel that you have what it takes, those high school games are going to turn into college games, which will then turn into professional games, and then you'll be exactly where you wanted to be. Like some of the kids that get ant see and they're like, well, I got, I got, I have to go here or here. I understand that to a certain degree, but there's nothing worse than being put in the situation that you're not ready for. You like we've seen people before that are not ready, but you know not to not to throw any shade, but remember the Sergio dipt guy. HMM, it will search and go google when you're done. He was the good he's a foreign language anchor, but they threw them on a game that he was not ready for, like he just didn't know what he was saying out there and it's like, be careful what you wish for, because sometimes it's not always the right scenario. So I feel for me like the General Progression I took, you know, one step to the next, to the next and got progressively bigger. That was perfect because if I would have been thrown in in a major market or something like that, you know, right out of school, I wasn't ready. I would have been out there stumbling and bumbling and...

...people have said, like this guy's a Bozo, knowing in the on their were got a job again. So it's do your work, don't turn any work down and just stay humble. Like three people how you want to be treated and, you know, don't be that guy who people say, oh, he's so hard to work with, like be cool to everybody. At the end of the day, man, like if your sports anchor and then you're and you made your way into this business. We've got a great job. You know that people every day that would love to have our jobs. Just always think about that and never forget it, because who gets to go to such? I get to go to work down on Sunday. I sit in a theater essentially with leather reclining seats and NFL network and with a cater food to us and we get to watch games and then I have to go put makeup in a suit on to go about it. Like, how can you be in a bad mood? Like I love my job and it's I love what I do and I just I tried to, try to, try to, I try to bring a positive energy to work every day and then hopefully everybody realizes that and I think it just makes it a better work environment. And when when we kids realize coming out of school, no matter where you get, no matter what level, you get to just be cool, man, this is be cool with people. That's all. That's all I try to say. Yeah, for sure, it's just like the journey through the minor league system. Absolutely, you know, it's I mean, like I said, you and I've been on, done twitter in corseponed with each other for at least five, six years. Man, it's you know, it's saying, you know, it's my pleasure to come on here with you today, like any not ye, there's not saying that there's people that maybe would join you or maybe wouldn't, but for what would be the reason not to, you know, saying like it's like saying you could, you can be my boss one day, executive at wherever. You can be the next president of NFL network. Who knows? That's not the reason we're cool. Yeah, we're schooling because there's no reason for not to be exactly. Yeah, yeah, that's just the kids come out of school to stay centered, stay focused and balance men and then just been just in the sentry people you want to be treated. Man, I definitely appreciate you coming on the show and want to tell the people where they can find you on social media at Cole Right, NFL. That's pretty much all I have. Is is twitter. If it wasn't for this two thousand and eighteen and everything how it is, I probably would. I just have a house phone with no answer, but you can't do that anymore. But that's that's me. I'm the old school guy, you know, the guy. I'm a guy when everyone's sitting there and, you know, typing in their phone and their tablet, I have a piece of pen and paper, you know, old school socause I like to operate. You ever going to create instagram or not? I'm a forty year old married dude. I don't need that my life. There's no reason for that. Like I'm feeling all the pictures I would ever even put out there for public consumption, like I do this. I put the same pictures out on twitter, like so I just don't even get to hit the instagram concept. I really don't like. I feel like you could do the same thing on twitter. What about like NFL network? Do they ask you guys to make social media pages? Are Not already have a twitter'd like one of our one of our social media managers. She was she sent me an email about, I don't know, instagram live or Instagram TV. This would be great before shows, and I was like, I don't even have instagram. She's like what, I think you should get a instagram. was talking about something these like you don't have the Instagram, and I'm like no, I don't, like, I don't know. Like I just feel like all the people like say before show, that people that they tweet out or the instagram out, like hey, everybody, we're in studio. We're about to get this thing going, like I'm getting ready for my show, like I'm making sure that my highlights are in order. Like I don't know what those people are doing, like maybe they're just better than me. They have at all this extra time to show everybody what they're about to do, even though they're about to show everybody what they do like on TV, like it's like getting an appetizer before an appetizer. Yeah, behind the scene stuff. It's like, let me have some cheese and crackers before we too much. I...

...think twitter is good, good for me, and that's where that's where I'm going to be at all. I appreciate you coming on and good luck in the future. Let me know. I.

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