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Demario Davis | Average to Savage EP168

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This is the one hundred and sixty-eighth episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring Demario Davis of the New Orleans Saints. Paul Guarino talked with Demario Davis discussing web 3/NFTS/crypto, his NFL journey, and helping out the community.  

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This podcast interview with Demario Davis was originally recorded on March 21, 2021

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With crypto. You know teas, Dows, you know all of it. And so just started to just do a bunch of research. Very much still amateur in the space, but I just enjoy it because I feel like not only is it, you know, something interesting do, but it's also opportunity to bridge the gap in terms of well, they like that. So it's been really cool. Yeah, now, definitely there is. It is dope just connect with new people as well. And and what about I know you have a board ape. So how did you acquire that? When did you acquire it? So I actually quieted in the middle of the season. I remember when when board age the floor was like thirty eight and I'm like man, that's that's that's too expensive and I just I just can't get it. I can't get in to buying this board eight, you know, at that price. But then I started to do my real my research and realize how much of a popular community it was and understanding. You know, I kind of looked at it like a country club pass, all right, or touch club membership, like being in this group, you're gonna get a chance to learn, you know, a lot more, meet a lot different interest in people. And I was like, Dang, you know, if you go to a certain country club's expensive to and it just continues to go up and I was like, Dang, I got to get in before it just sky rockets even more. And you know, your type of talk about Boyd Age Sky Rocket Right a sky rocks again. So I was just like, you know, I got to get in. And so I had n't getting into during the during the middle of our football season, and I remember when I first purchased it and posted off, my teammates kind up asked me about what it was like that and yeah, so I've been. I've been on that train and then do that, you know, kind of learned about other different projects. Caught me a few other other different things and up. Yeah, it's all bit a plot of the way. I'm a holder man everything I get at this home. So I'm not I'm not a trade off, liberate anything like that. I just hold. If I black is as good move, you know, I just hold. Yeah, yeah, and I know you mentioned hold of ARY. Yeah, I know you mentioned before you said you're a late but you're still earlier everyone. Like I think it was like it was like in last November. I had a saw US survey and it was like three percent of Americans like own nft. So I'm assuming it hasn't gone up that much yet. So we're still, I think, super early in the NFT space at least. Yeah, yeah, and then the board AP thing. I mean, like you said, it paid off to hold it. I know APECOIN got released a couple days ago or last week, and that paid off for the holders and of that. Like that's why it's crazy, because I think it was if you minted it at two hundred, like around it was around like two hundred dollars, will say, for the people I don't know about a theoreum and I think it was. would be equivalent to like a minimum of like four Hundredzero if you got the if you got the board ape, the kind of the Dog Kennel Club and the mute and ape, and then the drop of the coin. So pretty crazy. Two hundred dollars, like four hundred thousand and yeah, last yeah, that's it. That's it. That's essentially and that's what this space you know, for the opportunity right and it's you know, it's interesting when you look at it that you know there's so many different opportunities that managing will right. You know, you put something in it and conservative investment and you get yourself, you know, ten fifteen percent return. But you go into something a little more risky, where it's like private equity or venture capital and now you looking at trying to get, you know, someone between twenty, five thirty percent retime and the next step to that. Before this is gambling, right,...

...yeah, you know, you go play, you go Gamla saw something earlier. It was like, you know, you bet, you bet two hundred dollars as opportunity to win twozero dollars. Right, that's gambling. You know. It's like that's risky, is gets and this is, you know, like you said, I mean this stuff is happening all the time. It's it's an intersection between gambling and and conservative management, because you can, you can manage this space very conservative. I mean the idea of Crypto and end up teasing. Everything is so new that it feels super risky, but these opportunities really do exist. The risk is because it feels like the wild, wild west, because there's no regulators, right, but it's just different. And if you really even look at the way I world set up, you know, I can we really trust the regulators that that are regulating? You know, we so just we just use the centralize that they tell us. You know the reason why we trust you know everything, because they told us you can trust it. Like and you know, who doing? Who's really you know, chicken, who and so? Is this one of those things? Man and he's opportunities. That happened. That right, and that's why you really won't be wis the WHIST super early. You know, it's the opportunity for well, to really just be transition to back to people who traduced it may have been excluded. Yeah, now, definitely, and that's why I like I forgot when the docom boom was, but I was too young for them. Twenty nine now, so and I know you're around the same age. So like that's what it feels like to me. is like the docom boom, and I know that's how a lot of people got rich buying and selling domain names. Pretty much like at the very beginning of I guess. I guess I was web to or web and whatever they want to call it. To. Yeah, yeah, so, but I would probably will that was a will more. Yeah, yeah, that's why it's crazy. He's like. So I feel like that's why I that's why I think we're at right now, like in this web three space, like I feel like we're at the very beginning, and that's why I had super interesting and intriguing to me and I'm obviously I know you're super into it too. And then, yeah, just like knowing that like I'm sure you made. You were talking about investments and stuff in real life and said, like, you know, not the Internet it. What has it been like like investing in a board a versus investing in something you like you just said, you might only made like ten or fifteen percent off of that and it might have been years later. Yeah, I think I think the time right. Like, are you surprised? I should say. You know, I mean I think I'm not surprised, but it's it's very interesting, right, and very exciting. You know it's. So I'm not. I'm not surprised for the simple fact that in this space it's been doing that for over a decade now, all right, well, close to a decade. When you look at Cryptocurrency, when it came on, seeing going all way back to Bitcoin, like people like hey, bitcoin is going to be big, because it's going to be big and it hits, it hits, he hits, and like how long you have been times they got to say it before you be like, you know what I mean, that you take it serious. Right, we're in two thousand and twenty two, and there's like the government just like, okay, we're going to we're gonna have to take cryptocurrent serious, all right, you know. And so you see it over and over and over. So why would you think any different way with anything on the block chain? Like this is what this is the next progressional next evolution of our society. This isn't going away, it's coming and it's here. And when you see the things that are happening on the block chain, when you see how we're wired and already engaged digitally all day every day, you everywhere you go, people are in their phone all day it. Were already consumed by digital content and now just becoming more interactive and in immercer like. If that's happening, that's where people are, what the people are, this where the money is, and so that's that's really what's taking place. And so the fact that...

...if you're going to invest in a company, write a conservative portfolios because it's invested in a bunch of different companies, right, so someone winning, summer losing and you kind of break even in the middle of a bit in between, like you want to be kind of going on. So some of your companies may do twenty percent, twenty five percent, some of May underperform, it's all may perform at a loss, and you kind of gradually end up between like seven in ten percent. That's a good year. Like it, because you keep doing that, you're gonna be good. Well, when you get into something like this, where you double your money and you know, four or five months and it's happening over and over and over again, you know, it's like or Dir and and happened in amazing way. You looking at companies that have, you know, did five hundred million dollars and they started a year right. You know, boy, they y'all club, because I'm now that have five being all evaluation, and it's like she's like, you know, and that that certainly is the case in every situation, but I think that's what everybody kind of jumps in it and try to participate, hoping it the next thing becomes the next board of Y'all club, and that's where it kind of gets dangerous, because everybody just wants to hit home runs, and I think, though, there are a lot of plays out there. What what? What is the wise approach or approach that I use is a kind of rule of thumb is don't go for home run, just get comfortably hit singles and doubles, right, you know, five opportunities. That that that makes sense. You do your research and get in and we w muddy get out, you know. So it's just like don't, don't always try to get that, you know, full headed aches, five hundred eggs, you know, type of return. That's what people get in trouble and so, you know, they just keep going at opportunities thinking that they're going to hit the home run and there they really leave your fund. So I think it's so many opportunities out there to hit in this space, so many, so many singles, the doubles, and just move slow insteady that that really no one should even try to hit. That be homer, because they'll come. Yeah, yeah, now I'll be honest, like I definitely made some errors and I could have been hitting singles and doubles and I was just I was just holding it to too long sometimes. But I feel like that's just like the learning curve of the space. Like what I've noticed like recently, would like, I guess, smaller projects. You kind of tell when there's like like a big boom and then there's always like one or two big like pushes for it and then after that, like it kind of finds its value, essentially, and I feel like sometimes you just have to like let it go at those big booms and then you could buy back in if you really like the project or some sometimes I tiw, I feelt like I actually do like it and and then you can just buy back in. You still make money off of it. Yeah, I mean the worst, the worst playoff made was dough. It was dose corn. That was the worst. It really was worse. I still end up winning. I got in Super Low, but I was hoping it was going to hit a dollar right, and so I was just holding it. And the reason why I say and so I think it got up, got up. His high is like seventy something like that, seventy send something like that, and I just held on like it's gonna come back around, and just kept dropping up drop driving it out because, like, you know what I'm gonna get out, because it didn't even fit my philosophy or something that I just heard about, and I'm like, you know, a lot of talk about that. It's Gott a but and me, I'm a I'm a holder, but the reason why I hold to is because we're also early to this space. I'm just thinking about what it's going to be ten twenty years from now right, like what it what is this space going to be? And so what I really usually look...

...for is what is the utility of it? And that's why those and it was, those were just a theme. Letting no utility is and so it's like, okay, if it has utility and I'm going to hold you know, it's like buying a real estate property that you don't plan on ever selling, you know, at least no time soon. And if you're going to hold it, you might as well write it out, you know, least it out, and that's what I think you have the opportunity to do with so many projects. You know, like when people get in in of t spaces, like why would you look at projects that don't have any utility? What I mean people and just trade it, and that's what I think a lot of people doing it. Just look at the money, right, but it's so much ways, so many ways of a value, you know, getting in projects to have good utilities, whether they're going to air drop you tokens that maybe worked a lot, maybe work myth that you got it for free just because you had that you just had. If you know the the project, if it has the bits that you can go to where you can participate in the bent. You can sell your spot at the event, as you know, and that's invisiny yourself. And so that's that's that's the way I kind of look at Yah. Know that that's that's a the benefits of holding is too, because, like, I got a few different air drop set. You know, you could sell them and then you could still make some money and then, if you if you really want to do some math, you could be like, all right, well, now I got this, the main one, for x amount instead of what I paid for it, essentially like a discount it. or You just keep everything and see what happens, because anything could happen at this point with all the things. But for those that don't know, I know I didn't really introduce you as a football player because we've been talking about Crypto, but you do play for the saints. And before we get off the CRYPTO and nft space, were like, where do you see nft's and crypto going and sports? I know there's been a lot of different like sponsorship deals with Crypto's not that much stuff for I mean and, if t's be saids like promoting. I know some athletes have their own projects of things like that, but like, where do you see it going? I mean, I'm a Meta verse Manyet and so I just believe in metaverse kming. Like I believe people feel like feel more comfortable sitting at home and using using their brain to engage versus actually engage in and it. I don't know, I think it's just the way that I don't know if people really like that as just the way that, the way our world is kind of set up, it's kind of just pushing people into that. I feel like the pandemic and staying at home kind of increased even more. We're already very phone heavy, we're already very work from home and zoom heavy now. So I just think about what does that mean? And I think for fans of the game, if you ever really look at fans and sports, fans think they know as much as the players in the coaches right, they don't just casually watch the game, they think they know more than video games have made it to where they feel like if they had the ability, they would know what to do in those situations, and so I believe eventually that the metaverse will host e games, and e games would be just as big as you know games in reality. And if they imagine watching Madden or NBA, K or FIFA with real people's Avatars, right and literally the top played, the top paid athlete, like you know, like a Aaron Rodgers deal or the shown watch to be like two biggest signing this offseason, are essentially like the top avatars, like it could be anybody, just somebody that has the ability to be able to play the game. Is An equalizer. Right now, it's not based on your athletic abilities, based on your mental Dulity to be able to perform inside the game. Like that's the game...

...who watching, and you're essentially recruited by dolls, dolls on those teams. So, you know, maybe a league is formed. You know fifty people in the community, they go by that, they go by one of the thirty teens and they are able to go recruit gamers can play on our team, and that's what people are watching, because everybody just tapped into the mental person. It's going to be so much going on from a digital standpoint people not going to have the time to go and train themselves physically for like an actual game, and what I'm talking is probably twenty, thirty years. That align them, or maybe someone but that's that's why I believe the game will go. I feel like sports games will actually be in the metaverse and it will be digital games that the people are tuned in watching. They're no, I mean I wouldn't be surprised. I mean obviously, you sports has been blown up. It's actually like on TV and ESPN and stuff now. It's like pretty crazy. So I feel like that's like I don't know if those people will go into it or like, I guess the nft people will go into that, but I feel like or be a mixture of both. It's just interesting to see. But just going back into football end, I know you're on the saints now and you got drafted in the third rounds to the jets back in two thousand and twelve. What was that experience like, just getting drafted? Oh Man, it was amazing. When when you look at dreaming about something your whole life and training and everything that goes into the process when you are a kid in little league saying I'm going to the pros that, then wanting to be a star your high school team and getting out there playing it on Friday nights. Then wanted to go and play at college and kind of be like the neighborhood he roll going to college and come back home, and then doing that and sacrifice and many opportunities to go hang out because you training, you would wait room, just put hours and I was. Now I was. And then seeing your name on the draft screen, talking about that you're projected to be going in this year's draft and first, second, third round. Man At it is just an incredible journey. And then it finally happens. Your phone rings on Draft Day and I have my wife there and my mom there. I got the call and it's it's words can't express. There's, there's there's nothing like. It's like you go into a dream of dream instantly. And so like when I got drafted, I was essentially snatched out, snatched out of reality and into a dream world and not not spent ten years in that dream. Work now and you know and Form New Dreams as I've been here. Yeah, and then I mean you got you got drafted by the New York jets. So as you know, the New York medias like crazy and things like that. So what was it like just to play in New York? New York was crazy, man, it was wild and me personally how New York is set up. It's anything but a football marketing all right, basketball and baseball, course, is much bigger than New York, but even in it's not. It's not just sports it it's a mecca so many different things, and so when they have to talk about sports, it's not talking about what's really going on with the team. It's trying to sensationalize anything just so it can grab the headlines because there's so much going on and that produces so much drama and it's always something in the media and you know it just it makes the game not fun in a lot...

...of ways. Not that it's is bad press or any day like that. It's just just always a lot going on and it's immediate circus because everybody's trying to fight to get we get a headline. And so man, you hear so many stories, so much, so much sold, many rumors. Is just it's just a lot. So I mean you definitely have to have a lot of things. You got to have real thick skin and you have to be very, very smart and very carefuable. You in New York, you know for sure. I got to ask you, how did you ever get to meet Gary V, since I know he's a huge jets fan and he's big into everything at this point, and I'm teasing crypto. No, I know what I did not know. Gravy with a huge just man, I watch a little bit of Gravy, but not as much as I wish I did. I mean he's I really love a guy. He's he's a very sharp individual and I'd like the way he's just leading the space. And Yeah, but I didn't I know he's a j Fam m I need to reach out to him now. I know he's US man. Oh, yeah, he's a he's a huge as. Actually, that's like his his his dream goal is to buy the jets all really yeah, Hey, he be if he jumped in one of these downs when they creates down. Now I can have for real. There you go. I think there's a video clipping made, like I think. I think you made like ninety million dollars in like, I don't know, stupid short period of time of off nft. HMM, yeah, it's crazy, crazy stuff. But yeah, then you you eventually you went. You went to the Cleveland browns and then the jets actually traded back for you. So one ros it like to play in Cleveland then get traded back to the jets. Y Cleveland was dope. When I was in Cleveland, I was I was dead a unit of that. The lebran won the finals in the Indians went to the Indians went to the world series. They lost the cubin. So Man, first those are my biggest members. Not Take away from the team, but yeah, to be at a city when a team wins the final and being at the parade and watching the Bra the pandemonium and what that man put the city. I mean, I don't they going to work the city down. It was it was panthemonia. Man, it was a fun time. And then going to the world series, first time being at a baseball playoff game and being that just a player amble in the world series. I went to two of the home games that they had and it was it was, it was far, it was it was super dope like being there at those games. You know, just you know, surreal, like I'm in a world series right now. And they going to a country board from Mississippi. I never saw myself and be anything like that. Me Packed stadium, everybody standing up every pitch, just the energy and that place was was crazy. Like said, you read about it books, but then, but the team was it was dope. We were just sire team. Was Sorry, but we play with a lot of a lot, a lot of energy guys. Fart off, we was just so young that we had so many rookies. When I got that I think they they could like twenty of the benching guys and it had the stay signed all their rookies. Every rookie a drafted every it was weird, you know, some team was so young. We just didn't know how to win. We only won one game that season, so that was hard. But I mean I had a punt time and then I got traded back to New York and yeah, I came back. I think they were even thinking I was going to be a backup, just another linebacker that could come in for Pete. But they end up releasing the starting the linebacker. I took ope the job and the rest is history. Man took on. Yeah, and then two thousand and eighteen you signed, signed with the saints. But I want to ask you, like that was your second free agency. So what is it like to be like kind of like pick wherever you want to go? Essentially,...

...you hope you get to pick where if you want to go. The hopes about the most variety, I should say. Yeah, the first time I went to free AGC was a little bit different. I had I had performed the best year before. Of course, like you know, New York media, it's insationalized. I mean I felt like I still even I look back, I was. I was a young book affords live backer, but I gave us some big plays and they made it like I was one of the worst in the world whatever. So when I came out, you know, we'll win that mente. The Guy had like three teams that really wanted me. To Cleveland was kind of the best offer, and so I end up going to Cleveland and that was just stressful. You know, that was very stressful. I'm I'm usually a pretty good sleep. I can leave my bed five ten minutes I'm out, but I remember like stead up Nice, just worried, like you know, where am I going to go? What's next? And it was the first time I'd ever I had only known New York, didn't know no much about the business side of it. So that was very stressful time. And then end up in Cleveland just end up being the best thing they could have ever had. I really like it the turning point of my career. But the second time I came out to New York, you know, I was the the top linebacker inner in the free agency. I was the number eight overall linebacker in the league, and so it formed like a top ten player at that point and really put myself on her on the radar and be number one free agent at my position coming out. You know, I kind of have my pick of litter, and so it was a much different situation. And so it now is just about trying to bind the right fit and orders. That, yeah, I mean. And so I just when I was doing my research in my question, I was dying to ask us. How were you the last three years? All pro and the first team, in the second team, but you haven't been a pro bowler yet. That's the bed. Do a question, man. That's me, not quit. If you go find answer to that, man, you probably make people make more to good be bathing. That's your pre time. So so the I mean for like, I guess an average sportsman. They probably think pro bowlers mean means were but I know like the all pro carries more weird in terms. Yeah, especially when you go to the negotiation table. Hm Hmm. Yeah, the all pro cares more weight. So it's end of the day, there's a business. That's what's most important. is going to be paid. The all pro cares more weight because of WHO's selected. By right. It's selected by coach. Is People who really studied the game, that analyze and know like what to look for, and that's what I played for. It, like Pro Bowler, is the people say like populated contest. I don't really agree with that. I think it has a value. Of It too right. It's people who have got noticed for a certain reason. Right, they have something that but it's it's not because it's not all fans, it's players vote on it as well. They coaches do a little bit, and so, yeah, I think they both have their their weight. But for me, if I could pick which one I want, I want all procas I'm just a guy. It's about not listening that my name being out there. I'm more about like expected by peers. That's what I want board anything, I want to respect to my peers, and so when I know it's people who watch the game, that are around the game, that know it's look booth and I got that respect, that's all I need. Yeah, for sure. And then in two thousand and twenty one, you were one of the Bart Star Ward, which is for outstanding character and leadership in your in the hometown or on the fielder and or in the community. I believe you started the say her name campaign. So...

...what did that mean to you? And then why did you start that? Yeah, I mean so it was ill war. was probably one of the greatest awards that I got because it's what I wanted to be known for. Always want to be known for my character, woard in my game. When I walk away from the game. You know, the greatest thing I could did the life was play football. Then, you know, I feel I got underperformed in life. And to be recognized all by peers, that's another one that's bowled on solely by players. That's that's what made that one great, but then also what it represents. My percing me as a as a man before God, as a husband, as a father, as a person, is active in community as leading in that way. That means everything. You know, these are guys that around me all the time and what they know, be directly or through part of their teammates and whatnot, like to have that type of respect is huge. And when it comes to say her name campaign, that was one of many things that that were birth out of. I'm a part of the players coalition and we try to work in areas of uplifting communities that have traditional bit excluded from society. May looking for areas policing, education, economic mobility and criminal justice reform, and so we kind of work across those spaces to work in the corners of America that that just doesn't necessarily get to and we try to use our voice and platform to kind of Uplook, uplift stories and push to the front things that that are happening that most said, may I know about, and so this was one of them. What we were able to to learn about what was happening with black women in our country is because they live in a term that was in a space that was termed intersectionality and which means that we deal with race, we talk about black people, and that most time starts with black men. And then we talk about women's issues, which is crazy. What's going on women right now. I just heard earlier with the NIAA that women are making more than the mid that's that's amazing. And so when you deal with the women, most of the time it starts with white women. And so when you look at these terms, none of them specifically addressed unique issue that have with black women. All right, what's happening with them in the health space? What's happening with them in the workspace? Like, if you talk about workplace diversity, most time, if they got to have diversity in there, it's going to be a woman and black men like that's so what happens to the black woman? We look at health issues and the uniqueness of the health issues that they have, or something that's simple as having a baby and talking about the pain that they're experiencing. It's the way that the doctors respond, just but from from from stereotypes, is vastly different. And when you look at differences in domestic violence and all these different things, and so it's a lot of different it's a lot of issues that are specific to black women, and that's what we want to do. Want to highlight those things and it was one of the it was birthday out of a campaign. When you looked at...

...police brutality, it was always talking about black men, but the women were kind of being overshadow. NOPE, but understead of the black women were being killed by police officers. To and so we use that platform to highlight black women who have been slanted the hey, what those names? They have to talk about as much. Some of the name of the black women who have been killed by police in Idel all that was going on with George spot and all that. But we also want to use that moment to highlight and celebrate black women in spaces that we're doing great things, but also highlight the issues were they weren't being talked to, some of the issues that weren't men talking about it as much as they shoot. So that's what the whole campaign was about, and so we lost that with our team. We out of players to learn about it at about the issues. We just use that platform to highlight it. Yeah, no, that's dope. Yeah, and then I also often, I don't know, obviously you don't know me. I know we just meant so, by work with a lot of WNBA players. So I see it kind of firsthand and it's always dope to get them deals, essentially more than like the male athletes I work with, because it's like it it just like it's one. It's rarer and they get more excited because it's harder to get them. But I like doing it because I work with like a lot of underdogs and things like that. So it's like it's more fulfilling, I guess, I'd say, to make that so up happen. So it's fun to do it. But yeah, that's why I wanted to get you on to just because, like, I'll research you a lot and I saw you were doing about a bunch of dope things, not just like nft's and in sports. So, yeah, are you ready for some less serious questions, some fun questions? Yeah, it's cool. Men Do it, all right. Who is your do you remember who your first sack was? Oh, first sack? Yeah, I do. It was a game in Buffalo. I don't knowmber who quit it back was, but I talk of put it back. Willis thought it was buffalo thousand and thirteen. All right, per sect, I'm trying to think it wasn't. That was probably two. Was the tyrod Taylor then or no, no, with ty Rod Taylor, not two thousand and thirteen. Ryan can drink. NOPE, day. I don't know. I was thinking of Ryan Fitzpatrick. He was there for a while. anyways. Who's our what quarterback is there? Is there a quarterback that you still want to sack, that you haven't sacked yet? No, I got everybody I wanted to get. All Right, is there? I know I got. I see a lot of game balls behind there. Like, what's your most memorable one? Oh, all of them, all of these pretty pretty never from pretty memorable. My grand closes one. This AL would be special. Thirty eight three Tampa Bay buccaneers and and this is not last season but the season before, and we had beat we had beat you know, course Brady's just made it to he had just made it to type of Bait, and so we had them open it, open up in game one and it was a we came out. We came out and shocking, pretty bad. Got The pick six and sold. Course we had to go play them on their turf and we play them on their turf and everybody was expecting to come back. They found their stride in the season and literally they couldn't move the ball. We we finished up like eighty nine sects that game. A couple pigs and we just you just was a dominant performed. They end up coming back and beat us in the playoffs, and you know that was that they want to be went one super bowl. But yeah, so, I mean all of them member, but they all got different stories connected. WHO's your favorite player growing up? Not, it could be a...

...football and offaball. My favorite player growing up was actually Lebron. Lebron was probably made. That was a little bit later, but Le Bron was probably my favorite player the ball growing up. Yeah, no, you played. You played basketball high school, right, yeah, yeah, did. You were good team point three points. Man there. I know you're from. You're from Mississippi. So if I ever went to Mississippi, where would I have to go to try it? You get some good food anywhere? inywhere you yeah, you come, you come, you come, come to my people's House, one of them, one of my one of my aunt's house, on my side, of my wife's side. We'll get some good food, all right, that I'll take you up on that actually. Oh Yeah, and did you watch them? Last chance to you on Netflix. Yeah, is that is Scuba Mississippi. You're familiar with it. Yeah, I know school. So what was that like to watch that? was that like crazy to you? Now? I wouldn't crazy at all. I mean as life in the sip in some spaces, especially like out there, you know, it ain't nothing to do, you know, but play football. And it's crazy because a lot of those guys that that's that's at the school, you know, you know him through different people and so and then you know the coach that was out there. He was a part of a championship team that one of my coaches are one of my cousin's coach, and so, I mean it was wild. You know, it was just a because it was missipip. So I watched all the episodes, you know, like back to back to back. You know, I feel like I can relate to a lot of it. And the little is that last chance, you you know, because those guys that if they don't quote to college, you know, what are they lave going to be? You know, it's going to any many opportunities to make it out, you know, and as there's life in Mississippi, you know, especially for Young African American men, because there's no there's no guidance, there's no people showing them that they're at different avenues outside of sports, and so they don't value, not that they don't don't value, they don't know the value of the classroom and not using it as opportunity to change their life, and so they only think they have is football field and most of the time some of the guys don't have the character that they need to to stay in the schools that they yet so they end up, you know, at a Juco for grades or get getting into some trouble and literally that's they last shot and it's either you make it to the Division One and going to be successful in the game or, you know, you back to to your neighborhood and and then but bad waiting you there. Yeah, I mean I think we kind of touched on before. I think that's why I just dope with the new nil rules and all this crypto and and if teams like, I think, like kids are going to start. I think, I mean, I know a lot of people made, kids made the money this year, but like once it keeps on developing and developing, I think people are going to have enough money where they like won't necessarily like. It won't be like a burden if they don't make like an NFL or NBA or MLB or were not, if they manage a correctly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Last one, where is something people don't know about, you don't know, is a idol plane, the piano. All right, yeah, that's nope. That's one of the that's one of my one of my side hobbies. Are you? Are you a Jersey guy or sneaker? Are Both? Neither? All right, I'm A. I'm A. I'm a suit guy. All right, you got a lot of you got a lot of suites. Yeah, probably got like twenty some suits. Nice,...

...any like? You got like crazy, like colors or patterns. Now I keep it. I keep it simple. It's more than details for me. All right, it's all about to fit, you know. Yeah, it's not. The the peel pins. No, different, different type, three button, don't breast three piece. She's different, different, little I keep the colors. I stick to my charcoals, my grays, my blues, browns. Get Pretty simple. All right. Well, I appreciate you coming on and I could do that. The listeners are I can follow you on social media. Yeah, they can follow me at defitsit six Davis on Instagram, or Mario underscoring spot David's on twitter.

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