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Donald Thomas | Average to Savage EP3

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The third episode of the Average to Savage podcast with Paul Guarino. Guarino talked with former NFL player Donald Thomas discussing football, issues in America, and entrepreneurship. Thomas played for the Miami Dolphins, the Detroit Lions, the New England Patriots, and the Indianapolis Colts. Follow Donald Thomas https://www.instagram.com/dthomas_boss/ https://twitter.com/Thedthomas64 Powered by Training Mask https://www.trainingmask.com -- PG Sports is a digital sports brand that has been Everywhere & Anywhere since 2011. With a rapidly growing social network, we are dedicated to designing fresh apparel, breaking sports news, and connecting athletes to fans! ---- Follow Us Online Here: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pgsports Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pgsportsct Snapchat: https://www.snapchat.com/add/pgsports Website: https://www.pg-sports.com Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/pgsports

This is the average to savage podcast with Paul Greno everyone in anyone athletes sets and much more so. Up Everybody. I'm back for episode three. You got another special guest, Downald Thomas, former Oh lineman and the NFL. DOWNALD's up good. How about yourself on the podcast? Yeah, yeah, definitely. So let's just jump right into it and just tell me about yourself growing up in west haven and how you basically got involved in football. Yes, no, born and born haven. Grow Up Bridgeport, eighth grade to less haveing, went to Bailey middle school for a grade and then went to career high school man and obviously anyone knows about created. I have a football team, football program. So I try to play for a West Saving High School while still going to career and they were allowing kids to do that at first. If you know whatever, Scot wasn't offered back their school and last class was today allowed to do that was a two thousand and two class and I graduate of three. So they know that about that role. Till I played my first two freshman football games for West having and they told me I've didn't play anymore. So my mom wasn't going to allow me to switch schools just for football that state career. So I was in love with baseball and basketball that it really didn't matter for me and I finish my high school schooling. I Care Beer and just played basketball and baseball while I was near got you now. I don't know if it's true or not, but I was reading on Wikipedia that it said you played soccer in high school too. Is that true or now? Yes, I played soccer for one year, my sophomore year. I was trying to feel that void for the fall sports. That was not for me. I was too big and slow for too you got you. Oh So, if you if you were on the West seven team, you were going to be on the championship team. Two Thousand and three right. But yeah, it's crazy. Some good players, for sure. Rob Jackson was there. I know he was there. You ended up going to Yukon just as a student. Right, right, yes, I got my great on academics, went there and I just I couldn't being a regular student. You go from being, you know, Star, a flete to just one of forty thou, you know, kids on campus. It was a tough pill to swallow. If still had eighteen years old, so to figure out where I wanted to do and I was you know, I know, I come play basketball. Point guards were taller me when I got there. I'll try. I try off for a baseball team and that didn't work out and I was like foot long shot play two games my whole life. High School Freshman football at that. It top of you know, plays in the Division One level. I folks myself at one point virtually impossible. And then once I got around those guys and they all know, I realize, like you know, some bigger than me, obviously, but out for the multi part I was right in the pack. I wasn't even lifting yet. So I kind of, you know, figured I can at least, you know, being with him a little bit. It's crazy idea. I was like you know what, I'm going to know, work out and trying for the team. Yeah, how about? How big were you like going into the freshman year at Yukon? Going in my freshman year, I was probably like two hundred and forty five. I had I graduated high schools two hundred and fifty six and I lost a lot of way over the summertime working out, just working, and then I got up to about seventy something my freshman year. That was like kind of before I started like lifting the stuff. I was kind of like eating and partying and going to class and, you know, being a Profreshiman a minute. You know, once I kind of buckled down and started working out every day and trying to you know, really keep my mind right for football, got down about two hundred and sixty four, hundred and sixty five once I finally had a trial out for the football team and that was my weight and you know, crept up till over...

...three hundred by time I graduated and you know, went to went to the NFL. But there is a constant progression. So so what? Well, so while you were at Yukon, what happened? Like you just woke up one day and you were just like, I'm going to go try out for the football team. So one of my one of my high school basketball teammates, ISS, his older brother played at you come were high school? Leandre du Pre play that at UK on and local, local from West haven went to went to Yukon and so I would always see him and he played guard when I played. Not even know them playing guards time, but you know, I always kind aspired to do that. You know, he was always in the back of my mind as far as, you know, getting on the team. I would talk to him and I just became friends with the few of the you know, the freshman now was the first thing here and play football. We started hanging out and they all kind of I was like, man, you got to play football, you with how big you are, and I'll they guys are crazy, you know. And so when their season was over with, we that, you know, everyone was playing basketball and the students him on Saturday mornings and basically half the team was there and I kind of really got to see everybody and they all came leve on with the school there and, you know, Long Story Short, this is I right before Christmas breaking. When I went home for Christmas break, I was just like, you know what, I'm going to try out right lose, you know. So I just started lifting when I was home and I was lifting with Beyondre, because he was already had graduated, already something listening with him every day and we want to La Fitness for the know, that month I was home and came back to school and continue to lift and work out. Finally, one day I saw coach exel running outside on the outdoor track and I was in the students and lifting. I just stopped everything and sprint it out there and ran up to him was just say hey, you know, hey, coach, names Donald Thomas. You know, go to school here. You know, I want to walk on to the football team. Me Kind of like looked at me like you are school here, and I'm like yeah, he's like all right, well, broth he know, head on into the football office and we'll get something set up for you. I went in there and I guess he had told a few, two of the coaches, that he seems kid with some size. It came up to him and they can all kind of, you know, how to head the bout coming in. So when I can wit in there talk to the downcoresine that had a full operation at the time, they kind of you know popped down their office and meeting me or whatever, and so they initially was going to put me on defense. So I met the de Coordinator and D line coach and the linebackers coach and all that and they set up like a workout for me like a week later and just went through some drills and ran a couple for S and a couple broad jumps and stuff like that. And well you got that fleticism. See what you can do when you put some pads on and learn the game. And that was like right before the spring game. So schools on the house. They just told me know, no, will got a paperwork for the NCLA clairhouse and walk on and stayed up at Ukon for the summer and worked out with the teams and a couple classes and kind of the rest is history. What basically happened after that? You you read shirt right. Yes, my sofhmore year red shirted. Just had to like learning the Games. I started defense during training camp and so you didn't know like any of like the plays and stuff either. Nothing. They have me at De Tackle and I lined up, you know, as a five technique as at the in the first time I got in there, I just I didn't know where to line up at. You know, it was just it was rough. So, you know, I kind of you know, step back and how to watch the older guys go and coaches. Sol saw me one day while I was going to eat and he said, Hey, I'm a movie the offense. You know, we're losing seven off into line and next year. This would be, you know, your best opportunity eventually get on the field at some point. So of course I'm shot. I don't I don't want to play offs like I'm a defensive guy. So I kind of had a what I'm going to say? Are you with him? Like you know that to walk on this just trying to happy to be here, you know. So I eventually I just, you know, I go to practice and start learning the game again, and that whole year I'm my scout...

...team and just kind of, you know, just learning and trying to, you know, as always strong enough. So that wasn't an issue, but it's kind of more so just like working with that, with a guy giving ability that I had and just trying to imitate what I saw the older guys do. That was right and I got changed to, you know, go in there and make a play. That's what I did. So, you know, my start my junior year was like my rest a sophomore year, and I was they put me on that keigoff return set in the wedge and I took prize that and I was like, you know, Game Day for me was everything, getting on that field and it's like, you know, no one really set the WEDG and I kind of like look forward to and the guy was like looking for a guys coming down and trying to hit because I was just trying to destroy him to get my senior year. I was on. I sold my CR earned a scholarship. Yeah, so, you know, played sophomore year, junior year, my senior earning scholarship from my seniors my senior year and in about halfway through the season Jasmine coach as last when to come back for a fifth year. He said I'll be a starter next year. So I started the last two games of the year my true senior year and came back as a, you know, fifth year senior. Started all twelve games, first team, all big east, got invited to the combine, got invite to the Hula Bowl, got invited to the East West Trian game. Was this like crazy to you, like all this happened? It was. It was. It was insane. It was kind of like it's everything happened so fast, you know, like before I know I was looking to see his being top five guards, number five lowe, really stewing play twelve games, you know, and it was just like a kind of snowball, you know, you know, seniors in college that you know. I want to know what the draft is. So you want the West size and look after like the second game, my name's up there, you know, with a with a green earrow point, nothing next to it, and it's just getting hired and higher and higher as the weeks go by. Before you know it, you know, it's like, you know guys, you know, teams are kind of game playing it for you and knowing that they want to run. You know, we were running boall to my side and put their Beste lining on, you know, all me and stuff like that. So it was for Real, you know. And then before you know what, I'm at the combine for you know. Well, really I was at these all star Games and I was in shock to seeing, you know, these guys from Florida and Ala Pama and, you know, to us like that, you know, when you're in college, you playing those teams over the Herald of team that you want to everybody wants to go to me, you know. So I'm I'm looking at these guys like wow, and then I go play against some no different from than me, you know, I mean like I was actually no blocking them, like it was nothing. So is that? Is that when you were like, well, I can really make the NFL? Yeah, yeah, that's when I knew that I could compete at that level. Yeah, that was that. You know why I knew that I could compete, you know, compede against those guys during the year. Now still nervous, you know, going to the League, obviously, because those are said it's different. You know, those are grown men up there. You got guys that you're ricky, you're going to get ten year event and those every trick in the book. So, you know what? And then once I, you know, got drafted and got up to, you know, got down to Miami, and it was just it was different, but I still was able to to compete, you know. I mean that wasn't getting blown back and stuff like that. So, you know, I got drafted, stix around in Miami and I was just grateful to go, you know, really only pretty much play like twelve, thirteen games. Yeah, we're there. Were they on your radar? No, actually they weren't. I didn't have a meeting with them at the combine. I didn't have any phone calls from them by agent. Never Talk to anybody from Miami. You know. I I'm thinking I'm going to in upting Cleveland or or a Houston. You know, I'm thinking of you know, they were like a handful of teams that were really so an interest and Miami team out of nowhere and bill parselves actually called me on drafted house. More it's I got on the phone with the coach Parsels and anybody on anything,...

...you know. So Funny Story. You know. I'm in my room and I'm I was home and was saving and I'm like, no one talk to me until I get dropping. So everyone's going on the kitchen, cooky in, my sister, my parents, my father downstairs and like don't tell anybody whom to the house anything. I mean in my room, just like stretching out. Like third round goes by and tell me I won't be there. Passed the fork to flo goes by, a punter gets drafted in the fifth and finally I get a nine five for number call my phone in the sixth round and I go to pick it up and like hello, this is bill parcels with my name Dolphins, and I'm like so inshot. Like I phone on the phone and hang it up. I'm like Oh somebody. You know, it's like a five thousand, ninety five, four, whatever, fivezero numbers just cycle jener general number. So I got to call it back in there, like my name's dointly. Hey, somebody just called me. I think it was coach parselves. The phone up on them an accident, and she's like okay, and he was calling me against. I clinked over and he was like Hey, is there anything all right on my sad he's like all right, well, you know, we want to draft you, and I'm I was like that's perfect. You know, by that time my coming out of my room and like running downstairs and I'm like I'm going to hold the dolphins and my parents are going crazy, like and then like we look at the TV and he was across the screen with the highlights go up and it was just crazy nuts actually, and personally I'm a dolphins fan. So I remember that draft because I remember taking drink long with the first big yeah, and then you were getting some buzz over him right. Yeah, yeah, it was. That's crazy. Man Like you. When I think about that day, was like I think I got drafted, like literally, like it wasn't I was drinking anything to say. It was just like, you know, like you worked so hard for that moment, but then that can back in my mind like I know I still have so much more work to do. You know where? You also like pump to go live in Miami. You know what, it really didn't even don me that's going to be in Miami until until like all my boys came over and there like hey, we're coming down, from coming down, you know, the hang out with no bother. I'm like, Hey, I am going to be in that's crazy. Like I'm going to be going there in like a few days to like signd my papers and all that. So that was crazy. With the theselfy really didn't even doing me. Doesn't need Miami till maybe hours after I got drafted. Literally is was and still have to be, P trafted. I wasn't good. I didn't care if I was going to be in Green Bay or Seattle or you know. You name like the worst places that you don't want to really live it, and I just care Buffalo, like, you know, no offense any those places. I'm just saying this is horrible kind of travel destinations. And was like you want to place where everybody wants to go, so go school. Yeah, for sure. You were coached by Tony Sperano, right, right, yeah, so he's still my saving too. Did he know you were from Westley? Yeah, so he knew and actually he went to the whole career high school, which was lead High Scho High School, okay, back back in the day, and so kind of you know, we went the same high schoo so to speeaking, at the same building, but the same James, you know, same school contst I just different name and building. But yeah, so you know, we kind of had that connection that way as well. So that was kind of cool. Know he was from Connecticut. Yeah, for sure. It's crazy. There's just like some crazy coincidences on there, right, yeah, so that was a cool aspect. I thought that was work in my favor, but you can show me any type of known business, for sure. So then you played for the dolphins for two years, right. Yeah, then you signed by the Lions and then but you didn't play in two thousand and ten. Right. So what happened? Right? So I went from S got released by Miami Training Camp and I worked out for probably fifteen teams in those ten weeks that I was off that season. I was almost going to workouts the week and finally, you know, worked out for the Lions twice and they sign me the week of Thanksgiving. So I was there for four...

...games, where five games and the seas off there. Then the lockout happened and finally had training camp and I got released again after training camp and we play the Patriots in training camp and I played a really good game when I got released. You know, they're talking to me and they're like, you know, will know, I expect you to get sign here pretty soon. You know, coach balance already call all and that's about you. You know, but never know, like you know the business, so you know they tell you anything just to keep your horridial before they kick you out of the building. So I'm just like, you know, your lot, pature the opportunity and lone behold that I was home. I'll fly back and floor. I'm still living in Miami at the time. I fly back to Miami and home for a week. In really that week I go up, they're on a Friday of week one because they're playing a Monday night game. So they kind of had like that first week trying not a fib but they just had a longer ros week. I looked there Friday and I work out for him and they were getting ready to go ahead that in Miami, actually to play Miami Monday night football. So I fly back to Miami as well. That's my workout and actually I Tampa want to work me out on Tuesday. So I flying through my tamper from Miami on Tuesday, I mean on Monday morning, student Monday afternoon, and I'm in my hotel room watching the Miami ringling game and I see that then cope in the center, you know, breaks his ankle and I'm like okay, well, you never want anybody hurt. But then maybe it's opportunity for me. But I don't really play sex, so maybe they want to bring a center and but they got they spread there and connery over to center. Then they already had a garden. So I'm like well, you know. And so droe's house was my agent at the time. So you know he's got every Miami Games. He lives down there. So it's like mably, like thirty at night he called and say hey, I just saw Bella check in the hallway and he asked about you and ask where you learn and they want to sign you like tomorrow and I'm like, well, I'm in, you know, I'm in Tample for this work I's. I don't worry about to work out. I'll call them tomorrow morning. We'll get you, you know, get to the airport, gets you falling up to New England. This point I'm thinking, you know, temples, thirty minute flight from a lot ofdale like one pair underwear. I have the shorts on my my sorts, my clothes I had on. I you know, the chef shirt in my bag, my laptop next, pretty much it, you know. So I'm like all right. So I fly up to New England on Tuesday, sign with him immediately and I'm like all right, now you've got a hotel man, nothing. So I have it. Stuff enough to me. Like, you know, I'm at practice Wednesday and kind of resid this where. You know, I was there for two years in this Parte, the best two years and my career, which so you had no Tryalut, they just signed you. Well, I had tried out that the week priory. They already had seemed to work out. and Are you taking the physical and all that kind of stuff. I was good to go. Yeah, so you basically went from not playing in two thousand ten and then he became a starter for the Patriots. Right. So this is just another crazy experience in your career. Yeah, I mean, you know my Miami experience for this, okay one. You know, there was a lot of pressures. You get thrown in as a rookie starting, so you know, youngest offensive linement do well, I think that year start. So we went from you know, there's a lot of pressures, pressure. I think I handled it decently, but I was kind of balance some injuries and still trying to stay at the NBA. Tough Guy. I know what I now is like. If you can't go out a hundred percent, might as well not be out there. So yeah, so just trying to out. So you know what I actually England. It was definitely more pressure, but...

...it was kind of like more relaxed because I knew what I could do. Yeah, I could play and I just had to do what I could do and I was healthy and everything just kind of worked here. For sure. Were you a patriots and grown up? No, I wasn't even in a football growing up. I really didn't. You know, I didn't. Were so watch it's my dad is a giant fan. I've been to a few giants games growing up and he always watched the giants to make him warm, but I was never, never had a favorite team. Got You. And what about? What was it like playing with Tom Brady and playing for Bill Belgier? You knew what was expected of you and if you didn't, if you didn't get that done, then you knew what the consequence is. Where you were that be there, you were going to be playing. So that pressure alone. And then, you know, just making sure that you know, you didn't yet, you know yet precious cargo you were protecting. So it's like, you know you had to get it done, so do your job, they were saying. Right, yeah, just do your job. If you just do your job and do it well and effectively, you'll be finding. Yeah, I mean I think that should be the monster everywhere, but it's not every team. But there's no favoriteism, there's no nepotism, there's no you know, I mean like it's just like if you can play, you do what you can do and your dependables and expect don't get there, do your job, go home. Yep, exactly. So, yeah, you got to play in the Super Bowl, correct. Yeah, yeah, what was that like? It was real. You know, it was a big game. You know it was. It was one that you know was it was a different vibe, because it is. You know it wasn't. The crowd was more so just kind of Bo they were unbiased. Is more telling. You court heard that teams. Yeah, heard that super bowl crowds are weird because it's not really things. It's just like no, it's just, you know, these big companies coming in by, you know, thousands of tickets for the companies and give them out. These people could be seat off fans for all you know. The Super Bowl so cool experience, though, you knows, biggest, biggest game. Everyone kind of expire to get to every year because it's a leftdown the losers. Like you know, I never felt the seat like that before. Welling up the still having confetti hits you. It's not for you. You know you will go over to those guys, you know. So happy off season basically, and it's just come out when wanted to. Sallow, for sure, serious for everybody. Yeah, you were a free agent after that season, right, two thousand and twelve, right. Yea, I wish to free agent and I was able to test the free agent waters, which is kind of cool to be able to see what you're what you're worth. was because the people wanted you now, because you were a starter. Right, right, yeah, so it was like, you know, my agents call me and tell me, you know, I was going to be happy with wherever I sign and you know this is something that you've shown your works and you worked hard for and you know you deserve it. So it's more so like, you know, it was a sense of arrival, so to speaking. I was going into my six year but it took me that long and kind of really really get a foot scamp, you know, footholding into the into the League as being, you know, one of those guys that they really want you there and you know, you know you're going to be starting and you can just kind of like relax and just play football and enjoy the fruit to you later, so to speak. So you know, I was always a guy that was kind of scrapping, calling pawn to make sure I've made the team during training camp. So end up signing a four year deal to Indianapolis, and it was just like a great film of a Confli did you did you want to go back to the Patriots? Yeah, I did, but at that time. You know your future. So so break it down. How did you pick the cold? Well, Miss I wanted to stay do England, but...

I just knew, you know, I just knew that other team you're probably want to be, you know, willing to give me more money. So you know, honestly, I mean that's just to be really honest. I mean football is not basketball, in baseball, where you got these guarantee, guaranteed contracts. There's no guarantee that you can give you out there and training, you know, and during practice and theories yell or blow something out and be done for your career. So you got to get it where you can get it. I kind of, you know, had a way my offerings and so, you know, it's more so like, you know, I don't even know what they what they all for me. My Age just told me to day month he called him and told him, well, they things are off for me and they, you know, they didn't want to match it. So you know, it was just more so, you know, a respectful kind of separation. So it's kind of like, you know, Cleveland came calling and San Diego called and they were offering and Denver was allfering and and Thean thatis was offering. And so once you know, the numbers were up too high for Cleveland and San Diego dropped out. It was between Denver and here in Indianapolis. Denver gave me the first best offer and Indianapolis gave me an offer, but it was more of a senic base to get the same number than anything e was going to give me. And so I was like no, not taking that because I just never know what can happen ways or whatever, whatever reason. You know you get banged up, you're not going to get what you're supposed to get. Sore for sure. It's like well, I was like, well, I told I guess we don't sound to happen like what. We don't want to really go out that car. I'm from the East Coast. I would at a little too far from me. I'm in the mountains and it's not worth it. You know, it's cold, and it's just like yeah, you know before we have to do for my career. Yeah, I go out there because I give me a minute, I'll call you bat. You come back twenty minutes and he's like well, good news, that you be a cold. They've messed the offer so like personal SI ended up signing with Indianapolis. It's do so then. So basically you went from like a legend Tom Brady to the future star Andrew Luck. So we're that like it was. It was cool, you know, to see Andrews so young career with so much potential. You've asked me questions of about how Tom Brady was, you know. So you know, I just he just has a lot of potential. I see that galls another fact. You're like to go, no, protect my pay me in and too was a lot of pressure, knowing know, like later in his career, you know, he can't afford to take it hit at that time, you know. So it's like I want to have that pressure on me as well. Not like you're not saying to give up the set, but I'm just saying like this want to go somewhere where there's a young quarterback. Is going to be fun and enjoyables see him, you know, blossom and all that. So you know in there's a bright guy, he's a knows the game. excres that. You can imagine. You want to quarterback. He's big, strongly, fast, no smart. So it was cool. I just I wanted to be a part of that, and that's was kind of like why I really wanted to come here as well. You had some bad luck with injuries after that, right. You're like yeas and rows something. Yeah, so my first year an Indie, I tought my question the second, second game of the season against Quaimy, go figure, and I was out for the year. We have it. Came back and then tour again that second week of training can the next season. So I was out again from the year. Came back the next year I was they put me on tmp trying to see where my knee was going to be once they were ready make a decision, and it was trying to make a decision and they just didn't feel comfortable enough to, you know, wigh the risk. You know that out dinner many again. So that was just it and they release me and came home and just kind of excited, like Hey, I think this is this for me. Like, you know, my knee to banged up. How I feel like, you know, the player and me doesn't want to quit, and I didn't think I was quitting. It was just...

...more so my body, that's my knee, just couldn't take it. You know, part of me was like I want to get back out there, but they're a part new that my knee wasn't ready for it. Like now and when he can, I think you hold up for it, but it's just not how it was before I got injured. So there's no point in you trying to go out again risk it. So I had a couple workouts some teams that year. I didn't sign with anybody and I just kind of caught a quit. For Yours is this two thousand and fifteen, sixteen, Fifteen. Yeah, yeah, I mean by then you're that's when you had your family and stuff to write. Yeah, I mean my daughter was born and for two thousand and fourteen my son was already born. He was worn to aboutand eleven. So I got two babies at home. I was married at the time. It was just, you know, it wasn't like I was hurting for anything. So it was just like well, let me just focus on my family and I'm still young enough to be with them and not be away from them all day and stuff like that. So you know, I just like, well, we'll make some things shake around here and do some weather business ventures and, you know, try to create some more sources than income. So that was like my next step was literally like that same day that I got release, was when I went into the office and House and as literally like started doing research on like we this free chise and, you know, thinking of what I was going to what my next step is going to be, for sure. So last football question and then we'll get into entrepreneurship and what made you come about that. So what do you think about the NFL not allowing players to protest against the against the anthem? I mean, honestly, the way I feel about it is, you know, to each his own. You know, I feel like this is going out of proportion a lot more so than it needs to be. You know, it's just one of those things where, you know, I feel like, honestly, for in my opinion, protests or not, it's not really change anything that goes on in America. So guys can protests to they turn blue the face, but not to me person's not going to change anything the way, you know, they allow guys to protest, whether they don't love guys to come out there protests or, you know, they find teams, it's not going to change me. Yeah, so that's like my things that it's not going to change anything. To what are we really making a big deal about? The school? But you know, a causes controversy. If it was something to talk about, for the media to for sure there's them something to write about, log about, ask about. So why not keep it going? So, you know the way, if I'll still playing, I still be out there, you know, standing out there for the national as amount, and that's what kind of got me going like that, was this part of games. Yeah, look forward to seeing national anthem, seeing the flyover, when you see those tests going where you know, the game time, like you know I'm saying. So I just became part of life. Yeah, on Sundays. Yeah, I wouldn't want to take that way from because that's where I got accustomed to. Yeah, for sure, whether how I feel about, you know, a protest or feel about, you know, incests to go one in America. Me Standing Up, not coming out or taking to me is not going to change me. Take is they think players should be doing stuff more off the field, but the end of the day, players doing something off the fee or doing nothing's not going to change anything. People have to change within themselves. Well, well, I need to could it, because there's like this mental health issue with this Guy Royce White and the like. This is two thousand, I think fifteen or fourteen, and the the NBA didn't give a shit right when he said all this. And then this year Kevin love comes out and says something about like mental health and anxiety and all this. Now, all a sudden everybody cares because Kevin love and DAMARCO Rosen said so. It's like kind of funny like that in that perspective. But yeah, I see what you're saying about like nothing's going to be change until I mean right. So it's more so the guy...

...you name. I don't even know who he is, but you know I know whom to Markart rose and Kevin love are. Yeah, exactly, but I'm saying no, like at the end of the day, if you can make it to that level, you're an elite. Asking period whether you never play as a snap a minute, you never get in that bad you never catch a ball fly, but whatever, you made it to that level you're as right of everyone that grows up playing. We all were included. They started playing wreck balloray's working at sports. One percent of everyone in America, the world, where he's makes it to that final level. As you get older, everybody's need out so wide. Treat somebody differently that made it to that level but doesn't have the sign that Lebron James has, or somebody he's still in a days and we have to make sure he's an emat fraternity as to what they can say they made it to that level. So I feel like guys would need to really be treated the same. He tells the same standards, like you know. I mean, that's it. That's where I think a lot of sports and a lot of, you know, athletes worth gives this construed anything away from that. You know for sure he clearly has a mental health issue. It is overlooked. This someone that, you know, make some generates more money. They those. They say something. Now we want to wear green and pink socks and me on Greas. I mean. So to me, that that that's what kind of bothers me about about certain things, because I've been learning a lot about mental health in past years and unders trying to try to understand it. You know, it's just like it's unfortunate that people go through that kind of stuff where they can't help it. Yeah, for sure they need help. And people need to understand because, like you, we need don't understand. You think, say somebody's crazy and not really crazy. You can't help the way of their minds, you know. So just you know, people need to have more sensitive yeah, for sure. Yeah, I think the work both ways. Sometimes people are too sensitive, some people not sensitive enough. You know, it's a miracle stuff, all right. So let's get in some more some more fun stuff. So and of your career. You're chilling out your office, you're thinking about what you're doing next. You decide to open up a Reda's Italian ice in Indiana, the first one ever. Correct, right. How'd you come up with like starting for opening up franchise of Reda's Italian I so you know. At the time, so my up my my wife at the time. She was she was like we're brain story, and she was like you know, what about nor readers? And I'm like, okay, well, you know, let's well look into that one. Looking to you know, ing stop looking to a few other ones. I wanted to kind of wanted to do one of those little bit easier, so to speak, to that less overhead. It wasn't you're young with hot food. If you go bad and spoil and you know, you got to worry about Greece and you know, food going bad. Just know, bigger operation. Let's start living smaller, something that we know people can fall in love with when they have it. You know, we just have stuff this for everybody, whether you're, like to some tolerant, whether you're can't have sugar, whether you know you just want ice cream, we have custery, or just want to be ice know, you know some I've never known any want to come in here that didn't want to hurt to find something like you know. So I'm just like, well, you know, like let's try that out. So I just start doing my research, look into it. We met all the extentials. Ended up going out there, meeting to the headquarters in Philly, you know, send down with him to have a discovery days with me, with like, you know, everyone from a different apartments. You get to see that, you know, a shake store to have in the headquarters. You know, just kind of you know, seeious, this is what you want to do, and so this is kind of like I knew this is what I wanted to do and when get involved with something people legacy for my children and open up a bunch of these, and so that's why I just, you know, I was like I'm all in and try to do it and I signed my papers and fifteen. Remember Open my first more and September, two thousand and sixteen. So so you knew about readers because it was in Connecticut,...

...right. Yes, like one of those things where, like, you know what, I come home in summer and I'm driving by, like I just pop in here, get high school, one of those kind of things down the street from where where I grew up at West Haven on the beach right there. So, Ye, case, still, you know, it four minutes away. So I would just always go over there. Never thought one day that out only one or on a fuel of home, but there I am today. You know, SI Z got so when you first opened it was the first one Indiana, right, right. So everyone was going to live in Ohio, undred miles away. So this is us. But you know, surprisingly there's a lot of people are from the East Coast live out here and has a lot of big corporate companies that you get these kid people from all over, and one is, i Eli Lily, a big pharmaceutical company. So I got a lot of a lot of people that transplant from the east coast that already know about me. So okay, that's the good thing that you know, everyone didn't know. Everybody was like everybody wasn't like what is this place? Know, they're people that like you got to try readings out. You know this place. Million go there and you know, there's a lot of people to go to destination spots like Carolina, or they go to Florida where reads. They go different locations on the east coast with a familiar with readers. Now they have them here in their backyards. That helps out too. So tremendous. If so, you own you own more than one that so I bought it for form. Working on the second one now in Indiana again. Yeah, they're all going to be out here. Okay, it's pretty big. Then for what would you say? It was harder playing in the NFL or running your own business? Say, no, running on businesses, because it just more so of like, you know, I'm learning on the fly. I don't know. I don't know a lot of you know. I know about a lot of stuff, but what football? I was able to actuld relate, you know, I could. I could stuff that that I had to know about was more so just kind of because I haven't playing for a while. Anders it was I don't know, I kind of guess that kind of Cuz I learned the game at age where there was in college and just, you know, I'm just playing. But when you start running on business, you know you've walked to a store and you know that you paid from every single piece of equipment, lighting, you know you're paying people salaries or paying for the food that you who were consuming and making sure that you have a products, you know, up the standard, and people walk into your shopping they got disgusted with it. It's always cleaning back in your lame. This is a lot to like, you know, a lot to make sure of, you know. So it's more so like. It's definitely stressful. It's definitely more stressful now that you know, I'm into my sas season of doing this is a lot less stressed. All able to do no run it now, to be here constantly. When we first open house, here all day, every days, open to close, working at twelve and closing ten. So I'm going there for days. One time I got the dogs for four months straight. So you can imagine what kind of all that takes from your body physically, like you know. Yeah, actually, I was just worn out. So fause a few hours, I go home, get on the side the hot cub. You say, don't get treatment, but here wasn't any of that. You know, that was hardtile floor and making sure that every cousin comes in, you got in the same way, because they don't they don't know that you've been here for ten hours already. They maybe been fifteen minutes. You know, make sure everyone's happy. This is a lot for the world. You know, it's something that I feel like it was the best thing that happened, one of the best, one of the better things that happened to me. Yeah, after football, to keep me grounded and keep me focused on having a purpose.

Yeah, for sure. If ice would you give other athletes starting a new career after playing like a profession for or even sports in general, because I know how the challenge actually it's. Don't obviously make it to the professional right. I mean for anybody. Obviously have a plan. Yeah, you know, I mean like for me, and I was, I was, I was, you know, a copriate this, like when you're getting paid, you know, professional athlete money. Everything about after football or after baseball, after basketball like that. You know, you care about these guys and go for you're about guys getting divorced and losing after their money. You hear about, you know, guys are just you know Jones or make that, you know, investments through, you know, twenty of advisors. So you just have to do your research and you just thanke for guys that to trust in the NFL. Like everyone's not getting paid like that. Yeah, like, yeah, like, you know, everyone's getting paid hundred thousand dollars. Yeah, okay, but there's people a lot of people in America. Not a lot, but what I'm saying is there's other people that make more money than you do and have regular jobs. So people kind of get, you know, they kind of get like distracted by that, thinking that okay, just because, you know, I played professional sport, I'm good. You know, you getting on these big paychecks during the season. Yeah, we think about that. Money stops. You know, the Irish person that has that hundred, couple hundred thousand a job, they've been working that job for years. You know, I'm saying they have a little more job security. Soon as you get released, you're not getting another check. Hopefully get picked about another team, but most likely you're not, and you can living a lot more lavishly than that person's been making the same amount of money as you live in a normal, regular life. So guys have to realize they're like, it's not forever. There's going to the time when you're not going to play anymore and you just need to really have a plan, like you really need to think about what you want to do and just don't sit on your butt and, you know, saying like when it's over with you, I want to do just because you have a couple nion dollars in your bank account. It it's going to go. It's not going to be there forever. Like you got to think like the average amount of guys age when down playing fuss. They're not even thirty years old. Yet you have a couple million dollars in your bigger things going to last two year, fifty, sixty years old? Oh No, you know right. So you start doing atene, whether it's five a month, couple random just have something all set. You're you're spending and make sure you know you start living. Come back on a few things. You can't take me tricks. You want to can't, you know, buy, you know, sneakers or clothes every time you turn around, or some piece of jewelry or, you know, a new car every couple year. You just can't do that anymore. It's not practice. Yeah, so this is my advice. You know. You know, I'm honestly, for a lot of guys, like it goes in one year not to the other. So I don't even try to, even like when not talking to some people, I don't like try to sometimes making that's only just because I know how I was at that time. Like yeah, you hear, but you really don't. Yeah, I just opey. You know, guys at some point that step to kind of make sure that they try to secure something for their future. Yeah, I think more and more every year, like leagues were trying to help players out more with stuff like that too, and I think it, I mean, I don't know for a fact of it's getting better or not, but I mean I feel like it seems like it. Well, I mean, like you know, you have those meetings every every year. You know here everything's required to go to what you talk about, the kind of stuffy time, guys just ready to go home. Yeah, practice thirty five and me and you guys sit there for an hour and a half and watch a video and here you know about future and you know, guys just got a check for finish hundredzero dollars. Yeah, it's like it's just kind of just like in kind of just goes in one are out the other. No, I mean so it is. Guys just have to grow up and just realize that they got to if you want to see your future. Everyone's not getting, you know, the million dollar contracts.

You can look at it over the over the board and look at every team and there's probably less than ten guys making a million plus a roster fifty fifty some guys. So it's a big discrepancy between football and basketball and baseball. Yeah, for sure, you got a guy this making, you know, hundred thou guarantee, but he just cut tomorrow. Not Know. You Got Basketball same way, a baseball football. You got a guys make a hundredzero and he gets cut. He doesn't get another pay check as opposed to be other sports. This is different. It's just guys in you realize that unless you have a Gameson guarantee money and contract, your contract is once they kick you out. Those doors. Well, I appreciate you coming on and if you want to shout out anybody, what everyone know where to follow you before yours on instagram and these Thomas Underscore, boss or to there, but not really. Thomas Sixty Four. That those are my two social media outlets. More so I'm when you know I'm on instagram more so anything. So what about you have one for readers to write right? That's called readers fishers on instagram. At me. This fishers on instagram. So I'm definitely up there as well. Follow I'm always posting stuff. So, Ye see, you're back. You're back in the gym, right back in the gym, trying to trying to, you know, get my get my sexy back, so to speak. When you're off, when you're off the merry. You know, ten plus years you have back going kind of. You know, you wanted to get yourself back now. I mean honestly, I just know what working at the store and then, you know, being on futtle kid daddy you at times it just like I just kind of let myself go a little bit, and so I just wanted to kind of get back in channel my stuff, to get back in shaping again. Other shaping I've ever been. So that's just what I'm doing now, is trying to make sure I'm just and tell you I can be for my kids and for myself early. Yes, the third down, Thomas Fitness, coming soon. You never know. Never give me another year. Let me get all the way to where I want to be, maybe on my open own gym and just do personal training. Yeah. Well, I appreciate the time and I appreciate you having me, and no problem then. I think people like this one. Absolutely. I.

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