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Essence Carson | Average To Savage EP58

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This is the fifty-eighth episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring Phoenix Mercury's Essence Carson. Paul Guarino talked with Essence Carson discussing her time at Rutgers, her basketball career, and her passion for music. Follow Essence Carson http://www.instagram.com/pr3pe

This is the average to savage podcast with Paul Garno. Everyone in anyone, athletes, swebs and much more so, everybody. On back for another episode of the average savage podcasts or special guest today is essence, Carson of the Phoenix Mercury. Essence. How's it going? It's gone great. How's it going for you? Good, appreciate you coming on the podcast and Somn so I know your season starts soon, very soon. So let's go back into a little time machine. So you graduate high school and then what was your recruiting process like? Going into college process? Recruiting was a whirlwind. You know, just receiving a letter from pretty much every university in a country that was, you know, leading and basketball. So that was definitely a whirlwind. It was. Sometimes it would become overwhelming us to have. You know, the was that glad trash backs, the industrial ones, used to have the bags of those just filled up with with letters. So you can just imagine how many letters came in. Yeah, yeah, so what about what was like your first offer? You Out? You can remember first honestly, it was so many came at one time. So ultimately, what made you pick ruckers? Well, you know, it had a good music program there. It also had a good psychology program, both of which I studied there in the team. You know, was a family during to team and that had a hall of fame coach. So I mean it only makes sense. And it was in New Jersey. No, man wasn't really looking to stay close to home, but you know, it definitely end up being beneficial. But more importantly, like I said, it was the academic side of things and the fact that the team was so family oriented and the leader that they had, which is coach baby and stringer. Yeah, definitely. What was your overall experience like that? Ruckers? I had a great experience there, man. Of course it was tough because coach stringer is just one of those hard nose coaches, but it definitely made me a better woman off the floor and a better player. You know the hints. That's why I've been able to stick around the game and up NBA for so long, just because all of the knowledge that she passed along and had an amazing time. We had some amazing seasons there, all which were winning seasons, and we made, you know, some impact, not only on the basketball court, but it also socially. Got You that. was there a point in rutgers were you like, I want to go to the WNBA? You know, I'm saying I didn't. You know, I tried not to make that my focus. You know, my focus every day was just to go out there and compete and when every game on the collegiate level. And then I was also, you know, just you just having being part of duct the music program and and and no psychology classes. You know, really just had to stay focused. I'm making sure you know I was on top of those tasks as well. So, you know, my time definitely was limited, whether it was thinking, you know, just even on we're just thinking about other things. But once I became a senior, you know, definitely started to become a little clearer. The picture became a little clearer. You know, finished up with classes. You know, collegiate basketball careers come to end and then at that point is is that okay? That me BAS and it's an option. You know, seems like it can actually happen. So then, you know, I really started, you know, thinking about that part for myself, because before that we would just watch the girls in the league, and especially those that came from brokers in the League two of them that already won championship. So I'm like, okay, well, that could be a possible for me too. Yeah, definitely. Yes, you got drafted seventh overall to the New York liberals. Was Your draft that experience? Like, Oh job, that was cool, man. It was cool. It was some real something. You know, at certain points it didn't seem like it was actually happening, you know, sitting there, sitting there waiting for your name to be called, and then you know, all sudden your name is called and then it hits you like wow, I'm a professional basketball player now. And you know, on top of that, it was, you know, home,...

...so I got to stay on the east coast. My family still was able to, you know, support me and be there and come to the Games, and so that was a big thing too. So it all around, it was just a great experience. It was a great day and you know that that moment life change. Yeah, definitely, and as many people know that I'm you guys go overseason, the quote unquote offseason. So what's that experience been like? What was it like like going were there for like the first time? Well, you know, for me it wasn't my first time overseas just because I was able to play with the USA basketball team. Yeah, for like four years prior to that, but actually be there for a long standing period of time, when we're talking a months upon months. You know, it was difficult at first. For the first week, you know, you just go through the whole home sickness bar but then you know you just gotta buy into we got by, into the culture and you just got to live. If not, you're going to be missable every day. So you start to embrace everything that's there, you know, embrace the people that's there, the culture, the resources that they had, and then you look at it like, man, I get to travel the world. You know, if I wasn't playing basketball, you start to think, if I wasn't playing basketball, would I be able to have this opportunity? And then at that point you're like, you know, just take it all in and take it as it is and continue to push forward, because this game of basketball has open many doors and presented many opportunities and this is one of them. You never work know where you can go from there. Yeah, definitely. What's been your favorite country so far? Favorite countries by Spain. Yeah, you know, growing up on the East Coast and Jersey and New York and stuff. You know, we had a lot of Latin fluids. And No, Spain isn't Latin America, but it's heavily influent. You know, Latin America's heaving influence from Spain, you know, just we historically. So it felt familiar. The people, they were very welcoming and warm. The weather was a great the food was amazing. There was nothing to complain about there. So definitely one of my favorite countries overall. Yes, sounds pretty good. Sounds pretty good right there. Yeah, man, good food, good weather, pretty much. Now Fast Forwards two thousand and sixteen. You're on the LA sparks and you win your first WNBA championships. What was that like? Man, that was crazy, you know, in the way that the way that the series came to an end was was crazy, you know, with that shot. What's with the clock running down, and it was in a way game at that. So you get the one, the championship on someone else's floor. So that right then itself was just a story, you know. But it being my first wing bag championship, you know, nothing's going to be able to replace that. That's a memory. That's etching stone. And you know, there really aren't enough worse to even express or explain what feeling you get when you achieve that right, but the first time ever. But what I can say is that we lived at moment again a thousand times over. It was a great year all around. We push the envelope from start to finish. When we started out, what twenty one and oh or something like that, or twenty though. So it was just an amazing year all around, and in the top it off with that made it even better. And it just helps you grow. You know it's a player. Once you want to championship, you understand what it takes to win it and it just helps you grow that much faster and excellentially. So move forward. You know you can teach others how to get there. Yeah, definitely, that's all you want. A few overseas, two, but which one's sweeter? Like wnbare? The overseason's way, for sure, just because you know you get to do it in front of your family. Yes, you know you get to do it at home soil, but it doesn't take anything away from from those championships that I want abroad, because those championships made a lot to those people in those respective countries as well. That's their Wing Bay Championship, you know. Yeah, and at the end of the day, for me, championships, you know, that's that's that's the altimate goal.

So No, it's not the same, just you do, only because you know of location and you know just the family aspect, the family and close friends aspect of it. But all in all, still championship is you're on top and it feels good to be there. No matter where you are in the world will count you. You're in whoever your teammates are. They all that doesn't matter. You know, what matters is that you're number one and the true champion loves that feeling. Yeah, definitely, and going to like personal words. You're all star in two thousand and eleven and what was at like? That was cool, man. was a cool experience just to be recognized for being, we know, one of the best players in the league. You know there's a lot of great players and you know it's a lot of actually good players, great players that you know may not ever make the team for whatever reason. Time things bad. You know, it is one of those years where it just it's a lot of people having a great year, but you know that year the numbers fell, my favorite, so it felt great to be recognized for that. The whole experience, I was there with Nike, my other teammates, my former teammates. It was just a great experience. My mom had a great time and, you know, it just another one of those moments that you just got to take end, just take it for what it is and, you know, just just appreciate the acknowledgement and keep it moving. Yeah, definitely, definitely. Now, like off the court, I saw you were in the makeway commercial and what was that like to get to do that exposure like that? Oh Man, the commercial was cool. Man. You know, it's a long shoot, no day, and in New York it was one. It felt good to fly back home. So it was just good to be back and that element to you know, you shoot a commercial. Man, they got everyone all dolled up, everyone you know, did everyone's makeup, had to close on deck and you know, just to feel like your priority. You know that they're making the League of priority because they want us to be more visible. That feels good. Even if I wasn't in a commercial, you know, I will be happy for someone else to be in it. Just because, you know, hey, they making a sou priority. They want more eyes on us and, you know, whatever way they see fit, you know, and doing that, you know, I'm supportive of it, you know, as long as it's beneficial to us as the players, and that's the league. Like I said, it was dope. We got to me a great group of young girl both there. It was a lot of their first time actually seeing women professional athletes close and personal, and you know, they left there feeling inspired, and that's what you want to do, you know, when you're on this platform. Yeah, you want to win games and all that, make money, but you also want to inspire the generation that comes after you. You know, and now you know, it's not saying that they're gonna aspire to be professional basketball players, but they're going to aspire to be something great. You know, no matter what opportunities presented or not presented, they'll make an opportunity from themselves. They can see that it's able to be done by women, not only met yeah, definitely, definitely. And how did you, like, get picked for that? They just reached out to me yet sing like that, but I was lucky enough to be one of the chosen too, for that and I honestly I think they just try to get as diverse as possible, giving you different looks into, you know, different players, because you know, yes, we're all professional basketball players, but the end of the day we're still a hundred and forty four individuals and you know, of the five people, they're not one of us was the same. You know, whether it was a parents or whether it's off the court life and even on the court, you know, style of play. Each of us are different and I think that's important to see. You know that it doesn't matter what a background is, what you look like. You know, success comes in different she shakes some forms, and it's really good that they were able to exemplify that in this makeway a commercial. Yeah,...

...definitely, definitely. What are your thoughts on the new wnba logo in the new designs for the Jersey's man? I like it. Like the logo man, you know, some little different sleek, is stylish. It looks modern, you know, saying little more contemporary now, and you know I'm all about things looking stylish and looking good and being in tune with now. You know, you don't want to be trendy, you want to set the trend some I'm happy that they actually, you know, made a step towards that direction and making that move first. I know we did a rebranding a few, you know, a couple years ago as well, but I really believe that this one is heading in the right direction. I mean a lot of the women that are part of it, they love it, getting a lot of great feedback from fans and, you know, from from media. So you know, it seems that we're all heading in the right direction and I'm proud to be a part of it. Yeah, definitely, I like the logo. I just a has to be reverse the other way. Yeah, you also you want to right hand lay up? Yeah, do you want or you want to or you want to reverse lay up? Like what you want? No, no, like right like. I think it's yeah, because it's to the left. I think it's maybe to Im when I talk to them about the logo, they say, you know, they took her outside of the box that she was in because remember, she there was rectangle around it, right, so it's like now she's like free fly owing. Yeah, so you can put her anywhere. So if you can put anywhere, I'm sure you can put on the other side of the basket and she can make a right hand leaup. I mean, I don't think that's something that's that's difficult to do. You's got to talk to the right people. You know I'm saying that. Ask for per permission, like you like right hand passes and passes with side of the basket you like better. I'm sure. I'm sure she'll go to the right side. Yeah, and I know you're on the new team this year, the Phoenix Mercury. Yeah, so, did you know you were going to leave la or? Well, I wasn't sure what I was going to do at first. You know, it's free agency, but you know, when free agency comes around, you like to keep your options open. You know, you have to. Sometimes you just have to be you have to welcome change. You have to embrace change. No, we don't like changes. You know, I don't really know anyone ever it likes changes at weren't, especially when they're comfortable and especially when they've already had success with what they're doing and where they are. But you know, sometimes times change and things called for me two changes, and when Phoenix presented the opportunity, you know, I thought it was good timing. They're also a great organization and they had some pretty damn good players there too. So, you know, I ended damn bought winning. Yeah, Phoenix fell short the year before, but that's okay. Hopefully I can be a part of one of the missing pieces and, you know, to help put them over the hump. But again, you know I wouldn't be the only missing piece. Say. You know, we brought enough few great rookies that I think we'll make a great impact and we have some returners that were out last year due to injury. You know they're coming back as well. But again, man, I didn't know I really was going to make that change until the opportunity presenting yourself. I made the decision really quick, but I thought it was a smart decision and you don't have any regrets about the cities you make. You know, don't have any regrets about it. I'm here, the organization has been very welcoming and the entire team and women here, but an entire city as well, so it feels good to be in Phoenix. Definitely. I think I know your answer is next question, but what your goal for the season? I and of course I mean I know everybody. Did you any viewing the say when the championship. To me is that's a given. If you don't want to win the championship, then you know, I don't know why you're even a part of the league. You know, of course I want to win the championship. Want to bring home that trophy again, bring home another ring, you know. So I just want to make sure I'm able to contribute and whatever way possible and he shape or form and you know, just be a leader. Yeah, be someone that one of my team is can look to to ask for advice or, you know, or maybe it's not to ask for advice. Sometimes we just need you to listen, you know, and then it just depends. So...

...just to be that leader, one of the leaders on the team, one of them the be that bet and to you know, go out there contribute, man make it hard for other teams to score, make it hard for other teams in defend. So just playing both sides of floor and getting after it, being a true competitor that I am and, you know, just being a great teammate. Yeah, definitely, and I know you're veterans. What's it been like, say, like the media, wise, from like when you enter the League, till like today, man Medeo Bizz. Well, as far as be handling the media, nothing's changed. Pretty much the same, I'm pretty much to say, by some great media training in college. Yeah, but as far as you know, now it seems like this. You know, there's been a ship and media in general. I've seen more eyes, you know, are now on the league, which is cool. You know, just shifting culture. I see that the League is becoming more involved and and what's going on right now, right. So that's important because that's what something the other top leagues do. You know, they're they're part of what's going on now. It's current the pop culture, and I see the WNBA making its way into the pop culture. You know, that's one thing about the NBA. There in tune with the pop culture and then tune which popular was going on now, and you know, the shift is there. You know, we're becoming more involved in sneaker culture, you know, and many other aspects of pop culture as well. So that media ship right there is very, very important and you know, as players were welcoming it with open arms. So you know these podcasts, you know, we didn't have those podcasts when I first came in. The League. Yeah, we didn't have that. You know, this is another outlet that we can take advantage of and and talk and speak our minds and really get that message out there, whatever the message may be. You know, each players going to have their own best is, you know I mean. So definitely a great shift though, for sure, for sure. What advice would you give a young woman trying to make the WNBA time? Make it to the baby man? You gotta Practice Instagram and stay that, let me tell you say. Not staying on instagram begging and you posting these fifteen second clips of you dribbling a thousand miles per hour at sixteen million cones. That's not going to help you get to the league. You got to put the hours in the gym. You can't shortcut that at all, you know, because at the end of the day, if you try to short cut it is going to show up later when the lights come on and it's time for you to compete against someone that's been in the gym hours upon hours upon hours practicing gamelike situations. I'm practicing with purpose. It's going to show up and they're going to show out. You don't want that to happen. So, you know, stay off the gram, stay in the gym. It doesn't matter if lights are on off. Just make sure you're end there, you got your basketball in hand and you use just ready to go to work. There's no excuses. You don't have to have a rebound all the time. You make it happen and you know, if there's a lot of talent out there right now. So I'm excited to see what the next generation is going to bring to the game and I'm pretty sure they're going to make it very, very exciting for for viewers to watch. Yeah, definitely like that. That you said get off social media. Yeah, man, it's cool. Every once in a while, like okay, yeah, we want to go out there, we want to look at memes. You know, we will just cut videos you want laugh at you and say what up to your pans and post your Mama Mother's Day, dad on father's Day. You know, that's cool, but just being on there just to showcase your ball handling skills, it's like, is it really realistic? If making it to the League's what you want to do? Now, if you're a trainer, that's what you want to do, that makes more sense that that should be part of you. Know, your rollout playing, I guess I should say. But when you're an athlete trying to make it to the next level, become an elite athlete, there's no way you could become an easie athlete if your phone is in your hand the whole time. So if your phone in your hand, they need you're not working on your other hand. Right your phone is in one hand and so you go on dribble with one hand. So put the phone down and work on dribble and both paints, shooting with both paints, passing with both hands. And I'm saying you do. You don't need to be on...

...social media. Yeah, putting out some gems right here, putting out jams. They need to be in the gym for Real, for Jim's for sure. For sure. And I know you're big into music. So how did you get into the music game? Whoo man, music, music has been around in my life for years. I started, well, start playing the piano and nine, I think, this long time ago. I think it was nine. Yeah, piano on saxophone at nine when the high school once performer arts high school. Then I study using the college after that and decided, you know, wanted to, you know, dive full fledge into production. Did that as songwriting and then from there it was just like, okay, well, let's take a spin at the corporate life. And you know, that's why I am now, and it's amazing, you know, being able to be a part of the guess you can say Universal Music Group, capital Music Group, specifically family, and being able to learn about the business and also impact the business in a different way. When people think about music, they think about the artistry, that think about production. They don't think about what happens on the back end. They don't think about the administration, all the work that goes in to getting these songs out so people can hear them. You know, whether it's just the all your version, whether it's just video so you can see things, or whether it's, you know, putting on shows, you know, being part of the tour marketing group or anything like that, all that stuff is important. You know, reminds me of a basketball team where each player has a different role and it's important, but the end of the day, whether you're on the court where they're on the sideline, it all makes the ship sell, it all makes the car move. Yeah, you know, you know now just being able to work on the administration side and corporate it is amazing and to to me it's still fun because I like to learn. So long as I'm learning I'm having fun. Long as I'm learning and making an impact, I'm having even more fun. So I have the best of both worlds right now. Definitely, even before when I was asking me about college, you're probably the person that talked the most about school this whole podcast, in like in all the fifty one podcast I did. So wear Oh yeah, cool. It just the schools what you make it. You know, every everybody, though you know, I'm not gonna sit there and say, you know, schools for everyone. It's not. You know, I'm a big believer in education. Is Important, but there's other ways to learn, is other ways to implement education and you know, some people just have different have difficult time with learning and certain ways. And then when you're part of a mass education system, you know you're going to have some people that aren't able to catch on the way that the other two hundred fifty people in the lecture room can. You know. So does that mean that those other fifty people aren't smart or aren't intelligent? Know they just learned differently, right so, and because they learned differently, they might not like school, but they might not like sitting in class. However, you know, you just can't just give up the real I'mnna drop out of fool when I'm just gonna do whatever. Know, you you try and you try and you try again, and then, when it doesn't work, you try to figure out another avenue or another way to exploit your intelligence. You know, I believe everyone has a brain and they can put it to use. They're good at something, you know. So that was just something that I like everybody and definitely you should be a motivational speaker to thanks. Man. You have any projects coming out with your music? Are you? We're going to yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure, for sure. I definitely am. Actually irow the song another day. So yeah, I'm still working on music. You know, whenever I'm not in the court, you know, I'm probably sitting out a piano or writing or producing, you know, something that's not taxing on my body, because you can do to taxing things, especially in season. So you know, music is definitely relaxing for me and it's always been in my life. If I'm not doing basketball and music. It always feels like something's missing, you know, and then I feel like I'm unbalanced. So it's very important imperative for me...

...to actually have that balance in order to be successful throughout the season and even when I'm in the offseason and I'm just working, you know, down a capital, I still have to train, because if I don't train and I just show up at work, I still feel I'm balanced and that's not good. Then I won't perform as well when when I'm working. So, you know, again, that's not for everybody. Some people like to do one thing at a time, but I believe now we're in a culture, way in the you know, a pointed society, where if you don't do multiple things, then you're stuck beyond the ball, because now so many people are self sufficient. Look at you, you you know your own podcast. You know, before people couldn't do that. It couldn't even bath them. How how old? My God, I'm other podcast and put it online myself. Oh, you can do that. Well. Also, I noticed I got to know how to set up a microphone, I got to know how to report things, like before it took five different people to get one job done. Nowadays it's like people are thirsting for knowledge and so they're like, okay, I'm gonna be self sufficient. If I can't pay for somebody else to do this for me, then I'm just going to do it myself. I'm a Larry doing myself, and that's a skill day. But I needs to have man, you have to be multipe fast and now. Yeah, definitely. I actually that's what I hate. The motion. People say like you can't do all X, Y and Z, and I'm like I'm doing it, like I gotta do everything. Well, I learned early my dad call one walk man. My Dad can't walk right, so you know he's wheelchair bound. But did that stop them from going up and down the stairs? So No. Did he have one of those fancy little you know, I don't know to call him right now, but slip on my mind. So like you know when, when they happen, is attached to the railing and when your handicapped, when you just say, well, you think situ in a chair and bring you up and down. The chair brings you up and downstairs. He didn't have that. So what did he do? He slid down the stairs himself and he pretty much you know, lifted himself up one step at the time, using both his arms and he made no excuses, you know. And it's just like something as simple as that, where you know you might overlook or you might not even value because you're not in that situation. That taught me a lot as a kid man. That means that nothing can stop you. There's nothing in the way but yourself. Right, because he could have just sat at the top of the stairs and called for someone to help him downstairs each and every day, but he didn't do that. I never saw him do that. You know, even getting off to the floor on to the bed, you know, something simples that he would pick himself up and get in the bed. So it's just like, you know, I'm able body, there's nothing wrong with me. My mind is good put my party's good. So there shouldn't be any thing that's standing in front of me that's gonna Stop Me Easy that I'm gonna go around it or I'm a knock it down or I'm a jump over and whatever. It doesn't matter to me. It doesn't exist. It's the barrier, does it doesn't exist to me. Make it happen. Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely are you ready for some fun questions? are going to go from average to savage. Let's go. Savage is finest. All right. What are your favorite kicks to playing, to play in bag man? I have a road. I just I don't have a rotation. I just wear whatever that day. So right now we're some Kobe's, but then next week you I might wear some Kyri's, but I like whatever it's light. Right, whatever's light on my foot and allows me to move, I'm cool with it, but it definitely has a look. Dope, though, yeah, right now, as long as it's Nike's dope to me. You get any custom one zone, like yeah, right now. More Customs on the way. Gotcha. Are you superstitious? If you score like twenty, you got to wear them again? No, I'm not to be skill of skill if I can do it twice. Yeah, all right. What about what three jerseys do you want that you don't own and any sport? Oh, I want oor novel Jersey. Okay, all right, but I want his Real Madrid Jersey because that's where I first, like saw him. All right, play and as I want that. I want that autographed. I may never wear it,...

...but I just want to autograph. I want that. Oh, it's another Jersey and I want I want to Applyde to glide. You Excellent Jersey. All right. Oh, yeah, I take that, the blazes. I take the blazes, and I want to I want to ice man, George Garvin, Jersey from the Spurs. All right, like all three of those. Yeah, I know, go back a little bit for you. And last one. If you had to pick one, would you pick music or basketball? Man, you bugged thirty two years old. I have a pick one yet. What makes you think I'm about to pick one now? It is the savage question. All right, so you're not going to pick one. Problem. They've always try to make me pick one. Now I would pick one. What example would I have been for those who, you know, saying one, do two things? You know, saying like be on, Sanders, name, pick one, Sport, Oh, Jackson? None of them. They were successful at doing both. So there I go. Here's my shot. Fair enough, I'll take it. Well, I appreciate you coming on and give you what the people know where. They can find you on social media, for sure. Man, thank you for having me here. You can find me, ass Carson on twitter and Instagram at preppy so that's my music Monica, my producer, Monica, and you can spell that pe or three Pe. So again, you can find me on twitter, instagram at Prthree pe, or you could just be basic and search essence Carson and I'll come up. All Right, I appreciate you come out and good luck this season. Thank you.

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