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Jamel Herring | Average to Savage EP13

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This is the thirteenth episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring professional boxer Jamel Herring. Paul Guarino talked with Jamel Herring discussing his time as United States Marine, his experience as 2012 Olympian, and his next fight. Follow Jamel Herring www.instagram.com/JamelHerring www.twitter.com/JamelHerring https://www.facebook.com/SemperFiHerring Powered by Darty Co. www.dartyco.com

This is the average this averagepodcast with Bal garina everyone, an anyone, athletes soets andmuch more. Let's up everybody back for anotherepisode. Thet Havg sevage podcast got another special guest, Jamail HarringGomill how's it going tha. I going good man can't complain, true, true trute,so, let's just like jump right into it. Can you tell the audience little aboutyourself, of course, like seven Amag, Ono Harring, I'm born and raised in NewYork, I was unitis marine from twothousand and three to two thousandad twelve also represented to the United States and the two doethem TelvOlimpic Games, and I'm currently sine with top rankemotions perfect. So whatmid you get into boxing and how did you get into it and what age were you a manTha's crat starm? I actually was actuy ot to boxing because I was doing pollyin in school yeah. So of course Yo. When your gradea terrible you can. Youcan't play other see port. So I was Biggan. I was big on basketball and Imade actually Maye team, but I had to guy to get cut because of my grades. So,instead of just doing nothing around, you know for the season a man o time Idecided one of my one of my close friends invited me down to a gym. I wasabout like fifteen fifteen years old, you know, and you know I went downthere and just to try it out and and up just sticking with it, and you know anregard today. Vantally I did get my Grad together. Idon't want to mid,taking that you know Iwas slacking, all Bankin, but yeah it was. It was just itwas just you know, one of one of those things gut just happened: Yeah you'reback in college now, we'll get to that. Later to and so yeah you had a kind ofa wat start, like usually boxer atern, like probably around like eight to tenyou really it ix, seven, eight yeah. So what did? What kind of difficult likethings Ta challenters that you have like being older than like learning Ihad to baally. You know it was different. The amager system is a lotdifferent from you know what what you've seen on TV, because most timesyou don't really see at the time you don't see Mt Boxing on TV. So all yousee, that was the own. The professional level you know coming up, so I had tobasically on you know, learn how the outdowne system, you know and runs tothe most cart. But you know it. Boxing kind of came became natural, even eveneven at Ha. Late start, you know, came Nathal, especially you know, even asMarine I had to howto take breaks from boxing. You know numers times withoutDhe Ploy, two times tot Iraq es so happy Paco. You know come back and knowyou know play catchup, but, like I said you know, I must tis i'me somethingright, because even fora laye start and they only had under a hundred fights asa amateur, and I still make that lit a can. Goodfi, so yeah right after highschool, you Weren' Sure what you wanted to do and you and listen to the marine.So how did that all comes up? Ohone of Mo close friends was, he was a yearolder than me, so yeah nlisted right Riv that you o graduate from HighSchool, and you know at the time at that that time I wasn't really. Youknow big or really interested in like doing college, but I kdow have o Hav tdo something yeah. So you know fi out that the marine club was. You know theyhad a boxin program and you know just something I could do for corear as acareer also coming out o out high school. I T I didn't want to just youknow: Stay around and IM in New York, because you know some kids when theygot in high school witout a plan is stick around fo long and then they, UBake, te loose track. What they want to do so you know so those I graduate inhigh school. You know I went strinkin the Merricbar at Idon't followingOctober, you to know what was that experience like being in the Marinesand then participating in their boxing prover man, that'sthit's Bulcam, Suc N.I s still. I wasactual still seventeen years old graduated. I waso seventeenround listed and I had to spend my eighteen birthday and boot camping. Youknow who they made it very interesting for me, my Bort, I done my breade, butyou know tiwent on. I had to basically earn O my way to tothe team. You know H. I was employthousand and five Rak and afterthat, that first apployment I went to the team, but il was. I only stayedthere for a year because I got called back again to get Tho plad to Iraq andonce more and but I'm after my first...

...listemen is up. I had basically gotstation to Indianhad Maryland, which is a nondemploypole Ui and they allowed meto come back toown. You know the box team full term, and you know I juststuck with her frim since then, and no that how play catch up and earning myways out to the lympic trials and a antually fel it e team yeah. It'sawesome. So like what made you go, take that extra step and you were like- Iwant to train forg the Olympics. I woul just basically tired of seeingI'm like guys. I know H that I thong in my heart that I was better than thatwas basically I adhead of me like. I was always like ranked you know topTenn the country, and you know you know some people. Some people are cool withthem, witout the, while an iws kind of seeing that you know guys that I w Ibeat in the past was faceand moving ahead of me. That's when I decided youknow, let's take a little bit more serious and you know less wich forwardand see whawe see what what we can really do now, while you were in theMarines, were you were you thinking about becoming a proboxor after or thiejust happen like after the Olympics and stuff like that? I think everythingjust just happened. You know the behoes like I wasn't. You know I actually coolof being. You know a Marine v, no like SA Marinos Mrrn, but I was you know Iwas cool. If I just you know, even foxin didn't work. oftter me, you knowI still Hav something to fall back on side ACTA COL with that, but it wasuntil like the Olympics Hend. I was like you know. I probably five minutes.This far I' probably be taking further boxing, and that's when I startedreally thinking about you know going from yeah for sure- and I know you wereunderdog in the US trials for the Olympics and Ye and you came out andyou won and you got the to go on to the Olympics. So what? What was that likejust going to Olympics and winning in the US and all that Stuf? It was a great exprience. You Know Ike,I saidhad O com like after letme trials. I didn't qualify the Olympics a lot ofpeople like am like it wasn't. They change the system from what it was sayback in, like Twozano wo like when you Wan e, when you won the lime trials,you ar te mally was consider Olympian, but that wasn't a case. You wantd tolive a tri wulh. You still have to qualify internationally and my in myfirst goal around I didn't qualify. So I HAV to come back and Face Tho same.You know some of those same opponents that I have to deal with them heredoing the trials, and you know you know at that point. You know they were morefocused and, like really, you know, got invov me, but you know I end up y endup winning theon on twelve us, a national to earn US earn a secondchance to qualify to the Lipon Team N. that's what I went to on RegioJigionnaro and around. I believe it was May to Hosan twelve, and I C I got abrize metal and I qualified he. You know I spo IRN is Lik, basically, comcompete in the Olympics and that's what they had basically also made me thatone of the Tam Captains, which was you know thit, was bear honit. You know itwas a good experience. You know just being out there, not only just youryour teammates or whatever, but just otthe athletes in general. Not Tat amjust from America but from other countries. You know like, like you,sayint Boll and you know got man guys like that. So I mean it 's a fun time.I got I dhin. Of course we I didn't get. I didn't get the metal in Elimpics, butyou know the all berall experiences Great Yeh. Now what was it like? Beinglike the older guy there, like? I know that you said they named. You captainwas that, like one of the reasons why they elain the cat, because Asyou knowleadership, anthey see Thati Havioe I should trace. Now was one of the OL MaManress Whi Iwasi was chosin next to captain, but, like I said fo most part,I collicted everybody. You Know Wol, I basically got everybody El, as well didyoal together as one because at the same time you know we're all comingfrom different backgrounds. The country as it is. You know a differentoutbrings, but I was able to you know, find something that I had in commonwith each individual and use that you know to build a relationship off and weall got along maywe still get along tie. You see me on switter. You know youthayou know still talking to each an neer Laloofmy teaate. So you know we'restill, you know, werstill clicking with still rocking and we're just wishingeach other, the best of luck and much...

...the sex success in iol past as pros nowfor sure. So after the Olympicsan, you decided to make the jump to the Perorank. So how D that, how D that all go down? Y meattheime, like I said I hadto go ad te bat between if I want to stay, staying as a marine or get out AF te Olympics, my my lissmen, mysecond Leston was basicaly coming to close to an en, so I had arryman commendecision and that's when I gave my staffor a call from Cincinnati. I tellHem that I want to go pro. You know ye just byther, Mei CISCINNATIA, then youknow I went from there myside witout Hammin and I just kept it moveming y.So Do you feel like your time as a marine, helped you as a professionalboxer when it comes to training and tough situations during the flight? Ohyea O course, because I'm boxing is more mental and e Fiscland. I believe,if you can tell I wuch, is the stuff that I've seen it deat with as marinean the boxing am to me. That's the Thumbo. You know I'm not not afraid ofHarwork yeah, like I said it. Just it comes down. That's why I say it can'tcome natal to me, like I'm, not afraid of all work. Ou Know I love learningnew things. You know I fillow directions prettywell and, like I said you know they, like they alve Said Hall, work B, thestalent, you know, especially if one talent isn't u barking as hard as youare for sure, so. You're seventeen and two now you're figt on September,fourteenth your opponents coming off a big win. His only losses to a worldrank fighter. So what do you expect to see? Come foinNi, like I said, I'm not I'm not so worried.I mean I giv more respect, but I watch I watch the last two fights now I'lshut out tit, my boy toger time you no Toko was one of the guys that was on it.That was helping US train or wort to get clatified back in on man, UN,twelve and o. Now I know token, for years, but, like I said I talkin teSapball on the Southwar, I picked up things that tol. That was doing. I knowthat the guy doesn't like know too much tressure, just like my Meis, like pushthat all that the definitely as like, Bira sizs, an people forget, like youknow, he's a natural feteway, I'm coming down from light rate to superfethe way yeah so fourst. I know I'll, be the bigger man. You know, like I said, and the last bigt with him againstIshmi B window whos AC, as also I traine the Parte in my in my Stabo,that I'm wit. Now the fight basically came down to the two knoct gowns andthat's because dos a lot of retreating o mea, like I said he gases out thosetwo dockdowns they basically on was wor Ati, just deciding factoin a fight, butI don't see if I don't see. I plane like that. You know when I'm inthere with Im E. I just feel like. I have more, I have more tools, so I'mLIKESA, I'm looking forward to it right, Nigh and plus. You know, Wi' want totright now, mentione as wron with tow rank, I'm Expectou that I'm actuallyExpecteng to need by bound later on today, but Um. You know they brin e Else, bring them the Marines out. So you know Hav a learn it packing. It's goingto be a great atmosphere, I'm also I'm fighting on the same night as my oLitmi teammate hoseer Maris who's defended his TBC world title a like. Isaid, I'm just I'mjust actally go t just o have fuck. You know, I'm not I'MNOT NO PRESSURE! Yeah right now, I'm e Trainof camp, I'm I you know if youlike, if, if pople EBE watching closely I've been spawning with Karencecrosswirch was basiecally one, the Path town best, fias n the world and I mightjust bath- I we just wart yesterday together, you know, like you said, ifyou, when you have that backing Yon y B, you Youshu just really not o Reallyyou,really don't worry about what to come. You know s long as you get prepairedHandi Your Business and train e camp. You know the fights and, like I said,same thing, Ot being amarine mentality. He fite, that's the Funbar, that's B,the easy cart. You know the hard work is already completed like I said, I'min there with I'm chance carfor every other day and were working were goingat it. You know, so I don't believe I don't think a teres anything. He canshow me that I haven't seen I real can't handle for sure and you're goingup for the Usba Super Feather Weight Timle. So what does that? What ds thatmean to that? That you know if anybody...

...knows boxing Usba Omi is sanction underthe IBF. So that definitely puts me in the world rankings- and I believe youknow with Ha big one in now I'll be also be putting other. You know worldranking, sanction a bodies, so Tlik Sai this ines very important to me. Liksaid they taering has big CLA Mame. They want me tat. They want to staywont to see Memeto, see, that's the reason why they m. You know this time e.He began what they want to see me Tosee Het love, my storry. They love the factthat don't know I'm big with the military side and the we know we are weHAV. We have great. We have a lot of great plans ahead, but I have to getyou know, happy andomy didness on my and and I you know, take care ofbisiess W fo Moralda an like I said, but hopefully pobally by December. Youknow because how rank is keeping the ski know? They Probblis Kan me busy atleast at, but with at least three fihts a year. You know hopefully Boetembr. Ishould be gone for wor tie Bu, you know one things, you know one thing's. First,I have to take care of it to a Molal Day and then we'll just see what willhappen from new yeah for sure, and what does that mean to do that? All theMarines are going to come out to this point. H, man, man, it's gonna, becrazy. Man, like you, said it was one of Tis, one of the main things that Iwant to do. Yes, you knowis bially, you know finally becoming a reality tofight and you know in a venue full of unied, smarines and Younow O. Maybe youknow, I know what I know for fact, the day Wen I headline you know I'll even be able to bring out moreyounow marines and probably fight on you know, Bing Cu base itself. So youknow it's a great feling man like say they have that support in 'm, see thatyou know that name. Just marines, BU veteras in general s coming out tosupport me is always a great phinse. I was a great Falin man yeah how many arecoming out so far right now, you know, like I said e something boutthey saidthe Veue Hols aboutfourteenand they Sai Etlea, at least twozand marines andveterans are come that alone, which is I SOS Tombeas, and it's supposed to bea big net. Tof Boxing, like I thinks about like Leven, to fights on the cardalone. Man solike sai its Gos Goson, their atmospheres on be. You know it'sGonta be crazy but, like I said, I'm just looking forward to it. Man also people people, thast listening,you know I'll, be headlining on the SBM plus Porton, I'm on the card that night.So That's O. that's a big thing. You know that that tells me that tow rankhas a lot of you know. Trustin me to go out there and do some things an youknow and bringing a lot of fewers to watch is. Definitely. I think that topring ESPN partership is like great for mocking right now right. So you seempretty excited with the direction your careeris going into, and I know youchange traiters. In top rank, you started they star promoting Yude thisyear. So what made you change everything in inthe drop in wek classes. Also, I was makingt. The it wait class wasbecause you know me man like s e Foi, for a while as well like, I was makingone thirty five easy and I was actually doing it the hard way when I was atwhen I when I wen, I really found out y when I changed over teams, I was oetold me. I was actually doing it the hard way, but I was still making erelative easy. You know I was Alwaysi around my weight, but Um. You know theywas looking at me. It was like cause o. This is Cam. Mabas came retarinshimself. He was like he man how but you waitand. I was molking around likearound. I used to walk around like around Hundredan forty five average eslike Manis, like fifteen pounds, man, you can you Canas Ma one t five, Itolht you. I thought he wastalkin crazy at first, but no one uppost to be yelmall hooked up, and I seen how you know got. I got with a real nutritionis in astram coach. I actually made my last by actually made hundred and thirty two. Ibelieve one thir two and a half pretty easy and I been like I did it easierthan when I was making one hundred and thirty five but a higher weight class,and I actually I was eating it. The day up, my wayand and I still felt good andI felt strong and if peopl seen my last bike, you know and up stopping a guywho has't been stopped in like six years, like no ta, he was like theykept telling me. He was a derrible opponent, hes supposed to give me agood test, an some rans, but you know I made easy work on him. Even on the evenwhet I got cut over my right eye with a head, but you know I still Bout Tho. Imade easy work of this. So that's what...

...m? That's what the WTWI'm deciding togoon dinon hundred thirty, but in terms of the team, I felt that you know Ifilt that you know nother sh, pecing anybody ope there on the PBC, O Butifelt that you know we were we weren't on the same page. At times like, Icould actually been told them that I had one move oun to e Pentua, but itwasn't really trying to go that direction questionan. So it was likeyou know little Po bupping heads and they had one idea and I had anotherthisan. I just thought that Um I didn't like the way I was treated N, my mylise outing with them in last audust. I felt that I actually won the fight andthe just like. I felt that I wasn't given t a fair treatment and probertreatment. Durn ha whol Buildim, so you know it was no. It was no like I'mnoture, I'm older, I'm Oldeng Oup. You know you know he that things go. Iwasn't Ditter I did, but I just decided that you know I needed to make a change,and you know that's when I gave you know. Brian Bolmack magatiter callpersonally told thim that you know I would like to train with him. You kN W.You know a Mobon and Ian go from it. Yeh. Definitely now could you give likean insider perspective on like what camp is like for people that don't seeyou on social media man, cap capis because he's like he guys had fun,though a Cais Ket Har with them is really to me. Like amle, Arien h weeall under like one roof, when we had that when we had out to Caro Springs,but everybody has no egos involved, everybody gets along with each otherand you know no. We Du, we just have fun man we just have. We know we justhave like you know, everybody's willing to help each other. We all like listento one another and but we weren't hard, like you, said Lik, you see a. WeReally Weren hard like we're doing something every day for seven daysliterally, but we're not doing it to the point where we're aver training butwe're just staying basy and keeping our bodhis looks like you know what migh dolike a suf like a take a bike ride or something on on Sunday just to get outwhatever or Owen Torado woul more go, Tro the incline and the you know, andthen then, just chill out rest of the day, but Al we're staying busy. IsEveryone gets along everyone? You know everyone has the same goal. We all wantto see each other to see like I say we o laugh and joke and have a great comeat the same time as well. Yeah. Definitely, no! I know you have twoworld thipins in your Camp E. I know hooker was trainedg, you guys wow, so Iknow you're trying to become the third sun right right and yeah. I ijust gotelectured its funny. I just got lectured about two days ago: Man, youknow my trainof tor was slacking the bed and he was like yellong like hey.We need to Ma. We need ao the world champion million your get that close toit. So pick it up. You know things like that. You know it just motivates mebecause, like I said it's like Sai with Fon, but them and tap ran behind mebelieve in. I me you know, you know just base becoming a reality. So youknow I'm really happy hen that and I'm just looking forward to the future manlike I sai at's Foi, came wit to get to this Pihe. You know we got four weeksleft and I actually dat on being a lot sharper and better than my last havingby far Bicam', wait to see it. So I know, like I previous said, Yuyou're incollege now, so how are you bolancing college life and Boxing Tran? I'm actually doing a lot better thanwhen expected? You know I'm taking like obviously online course for the factthat I'm always traveling, as you see you know, most come always gone man.It's training camps, fights wherever but UM. You know it's Beenit's beenActuallyyo, know Tik a whilg o did take it ID take a little bit of me, Tha justbut now natually like I'm, actually motivated to start. You know that thenext semester, you know, I'm taking Bene: business, Maner, Major andbusiness management. So you know because I want to also you know- evenit hal the box. I wane more like be staying foved with boxing some Wayn,some far tain Ben Business Management Courses, but um I mean, like I sai,hasn't affected. It has a bump in the way of my training. You know CAUSD, Iusually you know. Do my own classes and my my ownwork after you know, afterhours of Atou training and things like that, and I still get the poper restthat I need without being overwhelmed, so I mean it's just been it's been good.Like I said I thought myself. I never see myself coming back ti school. LikeI said school wasn't my thing. Man Like I said I actually was an honor stod inhigh school, my lad. You know my last...

...two sears in high school but its, but Istill wasn't big on it, but you know come back to at you know. It actuallyis a good feeling, so the professors that you have now do. They know thatyou're, like a famous pressonal Doser, the SCHOLACTUALL, be stoy on Mei nm,know my career and things that o they know wh. I am n at the same time likeI'm still doing iti'Mnot Gno. What's your like maid motivation for just likeboxing in general, Mamy invotivation is, I want to be the next Marine Towin ORord Tie, I think, last marine. When the world towe was around. You knowdodly days, you know Kanda and and Laon spank actually Actaly beat Ali, but Ithink that was like the last time. Anybody who startd as a marine on theworld title. So that's my hs been my motivation. You know just to my name out did and you know saying nowI was a marine or whan. I Wa Tite, because I, my last monovation oElempics, was the fact that no marine made the LIPIC team andboxing since one thousand nine hundred and eighty two on Oskto the HOLS team.You know that was Serin Arati in the same year in that Sang Yeah Nenine towas last time on marine, but Te National Championship and ICOM TAT aswell. So now my next goal is to be the next marine wn E world tap. I goes anachieving them. Exactly is one itof time there you go. What's your most memorable flight. Todate I probably say Amascher wise, my fimytwo fights two fights and the Wa tickin place at Denhe Olympic trials. I'mwanting to won fight against Mi, Reed and thethe next bigt, the very next dayagainst Asosan. The fight what migh read was a back and form right. Iliterally won that fight by a single point. Tyou can just imagine how thatfight Wen and then the fight wit, pig Yoursel, a like you know at the timeForo Solso was the man like you know, Mo time national champion. You know hewas. He was basically going through. Everybody did know. You know, rememberI remember Wado I was actually losing going into the third round. You know myjust raie up and I beat him by a single point. So yeah hi an like those vice,like you know, staying out jome now, just looking forward to hem, you knowmaking my Bo ice. You know an as a problem Godfo now I got some fun in Fanquestions. So are you ready for those yeah hats got they're LE little, looserso Wel, here's another boxing one, but boxing training or marine training.What's order Morin Call Tran Y, like I said, like you, know, rams all aboutpreparing you, for you know the worst out there around the world. You knowboxing to me is like a like. I said before as Thust the fun par tell ExamMarin, Cote training, bufor, yeah deffinitely. What's on your playlistbefore training working out before the light, man tit's, crazy au people acanbefore, and I like Ane Supis. Like I listen to everything man like I wasjust literally just listening, some Ellan John Rockitman. You know I gottokeep it diverse, because I can't listen to the same genro all day, because Ilose my mind. But you know I st Tay Goy vers. I got go from James E te, DavidBoby and then an like thee very happe, an very next son. Just like that, I Ikeep it. I keep it. You know, keep it interesting. You know youjust keep iton showfl, yeah pet, pretty much man, but you don't like you, don't likeCardie, be theugh, no Oli, it es a few songs on Hi deat. I do like so shopcarte di I GIV MSH. She actually got. She has a few good songs that I, like.I give her that Ne from New York. You got liker IGRIGHERE's, THA scenario,question: What's one movie, If you only had one movie to choose and you had towatch it on repeat for the rest of Your Life, whet movie would hite be Sein. Evelaman vesse girl, lright therego another boxing. I Sai a Ikelike. I...

...said he was UNERDON. You know e, like Ijust like how you playing out hows out anon. You know an the Hamter andsometimes still see myself underdog as as a professional but n like you know,Elik W, look the Lowat le He faut through and he still acheve this golbecoming a world champion. So like Sen e Rela Man, AAs plays out a matter offact, erols bent. You know good friend of mine. He calls he calls he interelemant. You know becausebut, he wants me. He also tells m. You knowhe's actually one of my biggest porters as well so shut out the Arrow. But 'yeah he's been calling MES sin. A Rela Man Sincem, damn today, at's one I didn't know right there. Soyeah are you playing on any video games right now, right, yeah right now, I'mactually abro. You know hat you camp because it's small run my little ONSSuper Nintendo classic yeah. So you know I usally play that on my free time,ee playing punchup, Oyeah, costem, onbe Tegino, then slike, H, Japanese, Guright now, yeah Yeahi. Think that wraps it up. You want to tell the fans andyour supporters where they can find you on social media. Like say I was onsn for Ono kthank youforhayou Knowon, NAT ECOR whatever, but like Sa Aman Wan o by me, hit me up act,any more questions that I didn't get to answer today. They can find me ontwitter, Instagram, AD Mel Harring, Senu, fumber, ofsende, firm request.You know you no harring on facebook and, like I said you know, you're my winness,you know I'm usually useto respond to everybody so, like I said on', muchlove them, those for me and I give up back to those who do yere, probably themost fin friendly boxer right now, Ange Mill, Harry appreciat. It drapappreciate you coming on and good luck. ETMER EEPUL lie well Alfresut a.

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