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Jerome Cunningham | Average to Savage EP41

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This is the forty-first episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring Detroit Lions Jerome Cunningham. Paul Guarino talked with Jerome Cunningham discussing his NFL journey from a division 2 college, getting released/re-signed over 35 times, and what keeps him going to follow his football dreams. Follow Jerome Cunningham https://www.instagram.com/j_cunningham84/ https://twitter.com/j_cunningham86 Powered by Receptra Naturals https://receptranaturals.com/

This is the average to savage podcastwith Paul Greno, everyone in anyone, athletes, sets and much more.This episode is powered by receptor naturals. My name is boss Ruten and hereare my top three reasons why I love Receptra. First, when I stoppedtaking prescription paint pills in two thousand eight, I didn't have anything to replace themwith until I discovered Receptra, which has helped me a lot. Second, if I have a long drive in front of me, I take itbefore I start driving. Why? Because it keeps my mind and my backmuscles more relaxed, and that makes it easier for me to deal with idiotsin traffic. Third, if I really want to push myself, I takeit before a workout, because it helps with less lected asset build up,and that means I can push myself much harder. Those are my top threereasons. God speat to up. Everybody on back for another episode of theaverage savage podcast. Our special guests today is Detroit, lions side, andJerome, cutting and drome. What's up? Hey, what's up? Height onTG here? Good, appreciate you coming on. Appreciate you for havingme here. For sure, I know we've been kind of trying going backand forth for a while, so I'm excited for this one. Let's justjump right into it. Could you give me a little brief background about yourself? Yeah, you know, obviously my name is Jo Jerome, cutting him. I'm originally from whatever you can hit. I must spent four years a southernConnecticut and I'm currently in my fifth here and NFL I'm at the moment. And Yeah, I'm just using this opportunity and to make sure that I'mdoing everything I can to maximize everything on and off the field. This isall season. Yeah, definitely. Now growing up, how did you howdid you get involved in football, and what other sports should you play?I got involved into football at a very young age. Football was actually myfirst love, but you know, basketball kind of took over that number onerole, especially at a young age when I was in middle school. Yeah, that's sort of the fact that I was a little bit bigger than everyoneand you know, I fell. I'm not a sadness, because it's stillat football, but I was always playing football, I guess older kids.So I really showcase my talents and basketball. But then once I realized I gotthe high school that I'll have a better opportunity to earn a scholarship ifI play football rather than play basketball. Just off the strange set a lotof scenes out here who played football or basketball. There was more guys frommy high school that I play football in college. Didn't basketball this so Ifigured, you know, I was a good and numbers at a very youngage and statistic. So I just made the decision at a young age thatI should pursue football. Yeah, for sure. I mean there's only likewhat fifteen college spots for basketball and there's like what like a hundred and asthat's Day two and a major college football is a hundred plus for sure.And yes, you're you just touched on the you know, you went tosouthern D too. So what kind of offers were you getting out of highschool and what was your ultimate decision to pick southern? Well, ultimately,you know, you I didn't really get any too many offers. I wasregistered in a lot of databases, so I received a lot of letters forimitations up to schools, but the sad...

...thing about it is, you know, like growing up like you know, my parents could afford me to goout those visits. So if it wasn't local within a drive shot, Iwasn't going to school. So, yeah, the biggest thing for me was tojust filter out the letters. But yeah, I think I got lettersfrom Syracuse for my dad. What the Wisconsin? So I was and theretheir database every school in Anyton the conference of southern plays, and if Iremember correctly, it was it was a lot of schools. It was.It was just the fact that I cancel a lot of them because I can'tmake it on their business. Yeah Day. That's crazy. It's so. Imean you ultimately just picked southern because it was close to home and stuffand you, I think so, because it was close to home. Andthen also my quarterback from high school was going there. Okay, so madedecision a lot easier. You know, wanted to play Major d one footballand, you know, I was a little bit you know, the stursthat, you know, I could really only afford, or really only gotoffered from dtwo. And it helped out that my corback from high school wentthere because, you know, I figured out, you know, we wouldgo and do the same thing we did a high school which was have thestate record thirty nine touch zones passing during a regular season in high school andConnecticut History. Let's stand for a couple of years. But yeah, Ijust want to southern because my quarterback fro high school under yeah, and whatwas your overall experience like that southern, like football wise and off the field? My overalls furious as selling was amazing and since that everything happens for areason and I felt it is, though. You know, my time at southernwas valued and I, you know, used every resarch that was available tome as other and ask questions and I made sure that I was,you know, leading myself in the right direction as a student athlete. Butyeah, southern was a great school. I study sports management there. Igraduated to those sixteen. Yeah, I have nothing but good thing to sayabout southern. I need to go visit where. Yeah, you said,a key thing they are user resources. Yeah, and then after southern startedyour NFL journey, which is a crazy story which I can't wait to tell. So, two thousand and thirteen, you go on drafted and you tryout for the colts and that didn't work out. Then you were out offootball for a year. So what was that, you're like, and how'dyou stay focused? Well, year was, you know, a little bit,you know, disappointing, especially considering, you know, I got the calldraft night and I still they really remember being at home, you know, waiting for a call. My eze and tell me, hey's let mesomething to you calling and then no team calling on Saturday and everyone was likehey, dronk, come out and I'm like no, you know, Ifelt very disappointed, but eventually that called. They come and I had to tryout with the cold. But after that threeday weekend I decided, youknow, since I'm already in school, or technically I was in school thatSpring, you know, and I had another year left, I was like, why not just go back to school for another year? Trained for awhole another year re event, re dedicate my body, because I felt likeI wasn't prepared mentally or physically for what I was going to experience at theNFL. I did a lot of straight...

...training my first year to get strongerand bigger because I was forty and I wanted to be two hundred and fiftyfive, but that caused me to, you know, lose a lot ofmy speed. So that that following year, when I went back to school,I not base sure that I was still more supposed to work out somemore cardio based workouts, you know, strength work els. So still apart of my training regiment, but they weren't as much, not two threetimes a week, just one or two, you know. So it was agood, good banks. But yeah, I went back to school because Iwanted to make sure that I got this degree done. I mean I'malready, you know, at the time I was already thirty six care Acreand stood alone. So like real might as well finish. Yeah, definitely, know, I mean nowadays I'm seeing the more trended people going back toschool and finishing it up, so that's good. Feel like that. Yeah, I'm necessarily about like going back and finish it, because they had loans. It's going back in. My Grandmother, you know, constantly harp on itlike hey, when you graduate, when you graduate, and I wasanother motivational factor to it. Yeah, definitely. So two thousand and fourteencomes around and then what happens in this is when the cardinals and the sameset up try with them. Yes, so after what before I had thosechials, I worked out again in that regional combine which led to that trial. So I repeated the same process after completing another color year in the schooland then did well the combined and I got the childs from the Arizona cardinalsin the saints. As you mentioned those workouts. They went better to thecoast workout. You know now that I'm being a supposed more and more toNFL playbook and NFL thinking and logic and I'm still then hearing word. Soagain, you know, I'll finished up school, or got closer, finishup that semester. Then that whole summer, you know, I proceeded to continueto grind. I was working at Taylor rental, that's summer and BrantfordConnecticut. So I was working about Taylor rentel while I was still trying towork out. So I'll work from thirty am until about thirty five Yo thatnight and then I go to the gym that I go home, go tosleep and then repeat. I was going at for a while and then Ieventually, after not hear anythings from Arizona and New Orleans, eventually got acall from the giants because they had two tendings going out in one week.During treating camp and then I signed Aaron and never well, not really neverleft, but I was there for two years at the signer for sure.Now what was that whole experience like, going from Taylor rental till I onan NFL team like that? Was Crazy. It was. You know, I'mblessed, if you know, have this mentality of being a humble andI always want to mention the fact that when I was again at Taylor rental, I received the call when me, my friend Lou and my friend Benny, we're all just sitting down and make the downals at a break and thenI receive a call from my ad so it was very ishiterating, especially he'ssaying that we just picked up he's tense, and couple hundred chairs and a coupletables and the whole truck is full...

...and it was a ninety degree day. But yeah, it truly is a busing to be where I'm at becauseof where I came from. Yeah, yeah, definitely. And I rememberyou're being on the giant. So I remember listen to a Daniel Fells interviewand he was just saying like you're the most, one of the most freakathletes he ever. So also, who's that like when a veteran like thatwas giving you a good compliment? Right? You know, it's crazy, it'sjust you know, you know, I looked up the Dale and stilldo look up the day. You you know, just from his his levelof veteran leadership that he brought to the table and also his, you know, keen ability to you know, pick up on athletes talents like he did, because he always watched film, and that's where I got it from him. Originally, was to bring up my next level of watching film and beingprepared, because it seemed like he was always prepared every single question. Thecoach, as he was always prayed, and I wanted to be that personbecause, you know, the coach is valued people like that. You knowI'm saying it. Obviously you want to make sure that you're doing well onGame Day. But yeah, it was, you know, one of those thingswhere, you know, I was always considered freak es actually, butI felt like for me to get sinue you, to keep being a betterplayer, I needed to keep my freak is gut giving abilities, but alsoacquires new talents and traits, you know, whether it be, you know,running around differently front, learning Diagonistan route so I could play even faster, even be a more of a freak is jathlete. And definitely, andgoing back to the giants, when they called you, did you have atry out or was it you signed right away? At first I had workedout with New York before I had a sign with them in the summer.So I had worked out with them and around me in this spring and Ihad worked out with them when they had originally Sawed Josh Freeman and I hadworked out with him. And the good thing about it I knew I couldplay this league because I have never caught a pass from NFL caliber quarterback,like starting quarterback, and for me to go and that work out and nothave any drops in being able to catch every past that was a true testament. Like it's just little steps along the way just kept giving me me moreand more confidents, like hey, listen, because that is natural way for youto, you know, doubt yourself. By the same time, you knowalways, you know, rehumble myself, refocus myself every single time, especiallyin situations, because you know, if I didn't do that, Iwould have been detrimental for my career. Yeah, for sure that you saidthat work. I was your Josh Freeman. Yeahs were job freeman. And then, and then that's when I got signed over the summer when they hadto and Titians, when Downa Yott, Gotcha. Yeah, so it wasa little gap of I'm about two months where I wasn't with the team butI had worked out with them. Yeahcha. And by the end of that twothousand and fourteen season, I know you got on the active roster fortwo games. So how did I feel to get put on the active rostergoing from the practice squad? Yes, so great, you know, becauseconsidering, you know, the whole year on practice, live, you know, grind and developing, and I felt there's, though, like the giants. I feel, you know, forever, and did it to the giants forgive me opportunity. But yeah,...

...it was great, you know,greatest space to be in New York but missing in the giant by the sametime. I you know, they did give me my first opportunity. Soforever. I'm grateful for that. Yeah, definitely. So then after the twothousand and fifteen season, the giants call you and then the jets pickyou up. So I think we're on there for like a couple weeks,though. Yeah, literally, it was a very eventful May. Yeah,because I was on three teams in a matter of three weeks. started itstarted off season with the giants and the giants released me around beginning of May. Then it just picked me up five days there and they released me today for my birthday. Then the tightest called all my birthday. So itwas very exalful, very eventful May. Yes, to say at least,it was a weird like, I know you were only there for two weeks, but the jets, since they're in the same facility, is that weird? Not Really. I mean they got the different, you know, practicefacilities. But you know, yeah, met life. It would have beendope continue to keep playing it and metlife. But yeah, first a little bitweird to go down to the little cross unravel, you know, goingto form a part. But again, you know, it was a greatopportunity. It was just a wrong timing. Yeah, you know, just thetime. You know, they needed my running back because they had acouple of unrests coming off the season injuring ending injuries. So I can seewhat it did. Deal was made, you know, for me. Youknow, they really liked me. It was just the fact that I washot now because I just got there. Yeah, definitely. And then youshould the titans picked you up on your birthday, so that must have beena relief year release. One day, you get picked up the next day. Oh, yeah, definitely, and it was. You know, it'sa true testament to my agents will and his desire to see me be successful. And that's the greatest thing about him is that she does everything to maximizeevery opportunity. He doesn't want to meet the just go somewhere just because hewants me to go there so I can, you know, play and showcase mytalents. So, Jake is my agents amazing. Yeah, and you'reworth the times for what two? Three years? Yes, I was withthem for two years. You have two years, Gotcha. And what wouldyou like playing for the titans again? You know the tie ends. Youknow we're amazing organization. You know, they gave me an opportunity. Ilearned. It was a great time to be there. Even though I didn'tplay. I have the opportunity to play because of the titans ahead of me, but still it gave me that opportunity. Being that that third year player,where no second thirtyr players are prone to austill issue. So, youknow, was good to be around those guys because I learned from the LadyWalker Anti Pacano in Philip superna. You know, these guys collectively had aboutthirty plush years and NFL. You know those it was. It was prettycrazy, you know, to be in at Rome, but it was,you know, good, fun loving atmosphere and you know, learned a lotfrom those guys and you know, I value that time in Nashville because itwas amazing. Nash's Amazing City. If anyone is wants to go, youbetter go. But Nashville and no organization the Tians or in the right directionat this time moment, and Nashal's trending...

...right now for people's vacation spots.Yeah, I understand and I did some research and you were released in resignedover thirty five times in the last six years. So what keeps you motivatedto keep on going? Well, well, case you motivated is just the factthat I know I could play this league. It's the fact that it'sbeen caught up in Werir situations. I don't like playing. You know,the scapegoat, but I was hurt get to those fifteen year my first yearplaying, I got hurt my first gate and then when I was a TennesseeI was behind the Lanny Walker and USANO. was nothing I could do. Thoseguys know their best. Like it was just the fact that I dideverything I can, which was give my body healthy and get mental routs.But I felt like those opportunities helped make me into the player that I amtoday. Yeah, definitely know. What was it like the first time yougot released, and then now, like, since it happens and you get resigned, and then like, what is it like now? I'm sure it'slike a normal to you now, night and time, I feel like Iwas. He's going went through a high school break up the thirty fifth time. I mean it just it's just one of those things where, and I'llsay like it doesn't affect me. Yeah, you know, it's going to affectanyone. He knows you're dreaming. This is what you could dreaming aboutsince you were you know, you can remember your James. You know.So it's going to affect you, but at the same time, that thirtyfifth time, it doesn't affect me nearly as much as that first time,but it did affect me at first time. I still remember it in the JerrySuffice. But Jerry's you know, gave me some words like hey,man, like easy. Just told me like hey, like you work hard, but at the same time, like you need to like continue to keepbeing a better athlete. Working hard alone it's not going to get you towhere you want to go. So, like I take that and you know, not every each and every day I'm making sure that I'm doing every stepI can and become a better assoute. Yeah, definitely, and I thinkthere's a perfect question for you, because I think you can answer it almostthe best, probably out of anyone I ever had. So what could youget? What kind of inspiration could you give other kids that are trying outto be in the NFL or NBA or mlb or any kind of sport?I feel like the biggest thing that I've learned, and you know, Ihave to do as some self reflecting and, you know, just always talk aboutmy story and it's just keeping his word, perseverance, and you know, perseverance is key. Just keep pushing and a lot of things is youknow, I feel like especially this day an age, and don't like theclass of a whole group of people, but I just like just watching,like I feel like everyone expects to hand out, but there's not going tobe a hand out. It's always going to be hard work throughout the path. Like, you know, even if you look at other people, Ifeel like we always look at people as they are and forget the path thatthey travel. You know I'm saying. I'm saying is we just see whothey are now and then like hey, we want to be that, andthen once we start trying to make steps towards being that, then we giveup. But at the same time, that journey is the most important part, as opposed to being at the top of that moment. So I feellike the biggest thing is just always keep pushing and always not just waiting forthe opportunity, but also being prepared for...

...the US, because it was timesin which I could have not worked out, like I was working out two threetimes a day at some points. What I wasn't working and I toldmyself that I would not be the reason why I'm not getting an opportunity.I'm gonna let the teams decide for me, not getting opportune and I'm not goingto sit here and but hey, let I'm not in shape, becausethat's the thing I can control. Yeah, I could be in shape, Ican't be a better athlete. I could be more mobile, I couldcatch passes, that stuff. I could control stuff. I can't control theteam side of me. A team give me work out. But at thesame time that's the beauty of the relationship, especially being an athlete, and no, I'm and just be an athlete. Anything in life in general, youhave to have perseverance, you have to have persistence. You just gotto keep pushing because it's going to be times where you fail. But atthe same time, you know what difference is me from you is that Imight failed two times and then get it. You might fail fifteen, twenty,twenty five times, but you gave up on that twelve time. Youknow, saying yeah, it's like anything in life. You know, ThomasEdison, you know, felt hundreds of times developed in the light pop youknow, you look at multiple athletes, just so many different examples out there. I mean it's so easy to look at the athletes now, but oncewe start digging into the research and digging into why they got to this point. I feel like it's going to be more beneficial and help more athletes,as opposed to just show them. I'm like, Hey, this person madeit and they got there do hard work. But no, given examples a hardwork. Hey, listen, like this person didn't go out or,you know, after after school, was working out two hours. You know, it's just just giving kids example. And I feel like any and ifI can make it, anyone can make it. You know, I'm justa M anyone special. I'm just a small kid, you know, fromwhat a break Connecticut. You know I'm still kid at heart. You know, population of Hundred Twentyzero. Like, if I can make it, anyoneto make it. Yeah, definitely loved it and you played with some greatquarterbacks such as you. I marrying, Marcus Mariota and Matt Stafford. Sowhat's it been like playing with those three great quarterback? Truly is, youknow, busting, you know, because of the fact that, you know, I want from Elie, two times super bowl winner, and then Iwent from Marcus Mariota, like it's still accurate, so great gift, topass Lester. But you know, it's just so dynamic as an athlete.And then I go to Detroit and you know, massaff a great leader.You know, they're all great leaders, but you know, best efforts armsand his his throwing abilities and throwing skills is, you know, it's asecond to none. You know, probably, you know, probably, I wouldsay, you know, maybe pat my homes is arguably like because Papahomes gets more pressed because you know the dire actually, you know, youknow they're winning, you know, playing the Prittime of games. But youknow, math to staffers is right there because you know, stuff I seein practice, stuff I see in the Games where he's selling pisses and nowI'm really like looking. It's astonishing. But you know, those three quarterbacksare a volut them and you know I respect them and I always, youknow, try to take a little something from them. And I always sawthose three, you know, their franchise...

...quarterbacks, all three, always mentallyprepared and always, you know, on top of her stuff. Yeah,yeah, definitely. And what's your goals for the two, two thousand andnineteen fee? One is to you know, one of my goals is to makesure that I'm doing everything possible to continue to keep getting better as anathlete. My second goal is to make the team and my third goal,once I make the team, is just to be a contributing chapter to thisteam, because I feel like we can go far and I really value thatand I'll value the hard work that we do in Detroit. My value everythingthat we do because it's all stuff debt you have done along the way tohelp you be successful. You just said we're just doing NFL. No,we don't lose that. It's just a guy and I love it because itjust helps you become a better athlete. Yeah, definitely. He's ready forsome fun questions. Yeah, what's on your playlist right now? playlist,I would say, is just spotify. ME. No, wrap how youare. I mean, I listened to a lot of different music, butI would to say I wouldn't say I have a go to song right now. I'm just really just listen to anything. You got to just put it ontruffle. Oh, yeah, you got you. What about? Whoare your top five favorite players all times? NFL, or I could be anysports athlete. Top Five of all time, I will have to sayany sport, not in any order, but I would just say day LebronJames. I'm a favorite NBA players NFL. I looked up in Tony of gates, Tony Gauzells, running Davis, Nanny Walker. You know this,just just people that you know, players that we're at. My petition forsure. For sure. Last one, if you had to eat one foodfor the rest of your life, would it be? I? He's aguy, but okay, all the piece of that Ian is going to bevery upset because I'll have to go a burger and prior though. All right, that's a change up right there, which with bonus question. What's yourfavorite pizza then? And in Connecticut, favorite piece, I would say,I mean I can't go wrong with either. Pepe's a matter. I still Tuesdaythey have a pizza. I've been a lot of places and people arelike, Oh, this is the best piece of my you have for sure, and I was like, well, do hey to connetiquette. Am Inot to see you try it? Try to tell you definitely, definitely.Well, I appreciate you coming on and best of luck in the two thousandand nineteen season. No, I'll be watching. Thank you. Appreciate youhaving me on. And where could they find you're on social media. Myinstagram is j on the score, cutting him many for my twitter is Jayon the square, cutting him eighty four as well. And that's that's prettymuch. But might too. As You well, I'm on the most.So yeah, for sure, that's the five form a choice today, forsure. Oh yeah, I appreciate you again. Coming up, appreciate you. This episode was powered by receptor naturals. My name is boss Ruten and hereare my top three reasons why I love receptor. First, when Istopped taking prescription paint pills in two thousand...

...eight, I didn't have anything toreplace them with until I discovered Receptra, which has helped me a lot.Second, if I have a long drive in front of me, I takeit before I start driving. Why? Because it keeps my mind and myback muscles more relaxed, and that makes it easier for me to deal withidiots in traffic. Third, if I really want to push myself, Itake it before a workout, because it helps with less selected asset build up, and that means I can push myself much harder. Those are my topthree reasons. God speat.

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