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Jerome Cunningham | Average to Savage EP41

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This is the forty-first episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring Detroit Lions Jerome Cunningham. Paul Guarino talked with Jerome Cunningham discussing his NFL journey from a division 2 college, getting released/re-signed over 35 times, and what keeps him going to follow his football dreams. Follow Jerome Cunningham https://www.instagram.com/j_cunningham84/ https://twitter.com/j_cunningham86 Powered by Receptra Naturals https://receptranaturals.com/

This is the average to savage podcast with Paul Greno, everyone in anyone, athletes, sets and much more. This episode is powered by receptor naturals. My name is boss Ruten and here are my top three reasons why I love Receptra. First, when I stopped taking prescription paint pills in two thousand eight, I didn't have anything to replace them with until I discovered Receptra, which has helped me a lot. Second, if I have a long drive in front of me, I take it before I start driving. Why? Because it keeps my mind and my back muscles more relaxed, and that makes it easier for me to deal with idiots in traffic. Third, if I really want to push myself, I take it before a workout, because it helps with less lected asset build up, and that means I can push myself much harder. Those are my top three reasons. God speat to up. Everybody on back for another episode of the average savage podcast. Our special guests today is Detroit, lions side, and Jerome, cutting and drome. What's up? Hey, what's up? Height on TG here? Good, appreciate you coming on. Appreciate you for having me here. For sure, I know we've been kind of trying going back and forth for a while, so I'm excited for this one. Let's just jump right into it. Could you give me a little brief background about yourself? Yeah, you know, obviously my name is Jo Jerome, cutting him. I'm originally from whatever you can hit. I must spent four years a southern Connecticut and I'm currently in my fifth here and NFL I'm at the moment. And Yeah, I'm just using this opportunity and to make sure that I'm doing everything I can to maximize everything on and off the field. This is all season. Yeah, definitely. Now growing up, how did you how did you get involved in football, and what other sports should you play? I got involved into football at a very young age. Football was actually my first love, but you know, basketball kind of took over that number one role, especially at a young age when I was in middle school. Yeah, that's sort of the fact that I was a little bit bigger than everyone and you know, I fell. I'm not a sadness, because it's still at football, but I was always playing football, I guess older kids. So I really showcase my talents and basketball. But then once I realized I got the high school that I'll have a better opportunity to earn a scholarship if I play football rather than play basketball. Just off the strange set a lot of scenes out here who played football or basketball. There was more guys from my high school that I play football in college. Didn't basketball this so I figured, you know, I was a good and numbers at a very young age and statistic. So I just made the decision at a young age that I should pursue football. Yeah, for sure. I mean there's only like what fifteen college spots for basketball and there's like what like a hundred and as that's Day two and a major college football is a hundred plus for sure. And yes, you're you just touched on the you know, you went to southern D too. So what kind of offers were you getting out of high school and what was your ultimate decision to pick southern? Well, ultimately, you know, you I didn't really get any too many offers. I was registered in a lot of databases, so I received a lot of letters for imitations up to schools, but the sad...

...thing about it is, you know, like growing up like you know, my parents could afford me to go out those visits. So if it wasn't local within a drive shot, I wasn't going to school. So, yeah, the biggest thing for me was to just filter out the letters. But yeah, I think I got letters from Syracuse for my dad. What the Wisconsin? So I was and there their database every school in Anyton the conference of southern plays, and if I remember correctly, it was it was a lot of schools. It was. It was just the fact that I cancel a lot of them because I can't make it on their business. Yeah Day. That's crazy. It's so. I mean you ultimately just picked southern because it was close to home and stuff and you, I think so, because it was close to home. And then also my quarterback from high school was going there. Okay, so made decision a lot easier. You know, wanted to play Major d one football and, you know, I was a little bit you know, the sturs that, you know, I could really only afford, or really only got offered from dtwo. And it helped out that my corback from high school went there because, you know, I figured out, you know, we would go and do the same thing we did a high school which was have the state record thirty nine touch zones passing during a regular season in high school and Connecticut History. Let's stand for a couple of years. But yeah, I just want to southern because my quarterback fro high school under yeah, and what was your overall experience like that southern, like football wise and off the field? My overalls furious as selling was amazing and since that everything happens for a reason and I felt it is, though. You know, my time at southern was valued and I, you know, used every resarch that was available to me as other and ask questions and I made sure that I was, you know, leading myself in the right direction as a student athlete. But yeah, southern was a great school. I study sports management there. I graduated to those sixteen. Yeah, I have nothing but good thing to say about southern. I need to go visit where. Yeah, you said, a key thing they are user resources. Yeah, and then after southern started your NFL journey, which is a crazy story which I can't wait to tell. So, two thousand and thirteen, you go on drafted and you try out for the colts and that didn't work out. Then you were out of football for a year. So what was that, you're like, and how'd you stay focused? Well, year was, you know, a little bit, you know, disappointing, especially considering, you know, I got the call draft night and I still they really remember being at home, you know, waiting for a call. My eze and tell me, hey's let me something to you calling and then no team calling on Saturday and everyone was like hey, dronk, come out and I'm like no, you know, I felt very disappointed, but eventually that called. They come and I had to try out with the cold. But after that threeday weekend I decided, you know, since I'm already in school, or technically I was in school that Spring, you know, and I had another year left, I was like, why not just go back to school for another year? Trained for a whole another year re event, re dedicate my body, because I felt like I wasn't prepared mentally or physically for what I was going to experience at the NFL. I did a lot of straight...

...training my first year to get stronger and bigger because I was forty and I wanted to be two hundred and fifty five, but that caused me to, you know, lose a lot of my speed. So that that following year, when I went back to school, I not base sure that I was still more supposed to work out some more cardio based workouts, you know, strength work els. So still a part of my training regiment, but they weren't as much, not two three times a week, just one or two, you know. So it was a good, good banks. But yeah, I went back to school because I wanted to make sure that I got this degree done. I mean I'm already, you know, at the time I was already thirty six care Acre and stood alone. So like real might as well finish. Yeah, definitely, know, I mean nowadays I'm seeing the more trended people going back to school and finishing it up, so that's good. Feel like that. Yeah, I'm necessarily about like going back and finish it, because they had loans. It's going back in. My Grandmother, you know, constantly harp on it like hey, when you graduate, when you graduate, and I was another motivational factor to it. Yeah, definitely. So two thousand and fourteen comes around and then what happens in this is when the cardinals and the same set up try with them. Yes, so after what before I had those chials, I worked out again in that regional combine which led to that trial. So I repeated the same process after completing another color year in the school and then did well the combined and I got the childs from the Arizona cardinals in the saints. As you mentioned those workouts. They went better to the coast workout. You know now that I'm being a supposed more and more to NFL playbook and NFL thinking and logic and I'm still then hearing word. So again, you know, I'll finished up school, or got closer, finish up that semester. Then that whole summer, you know, I proceeded to continue to grind. I was working at Taylor rental, that's summer and Brantford Connecticut. So I was working about Taylor rentel while I was still trying to work out. So I'll work from thirty am until about thirty five Yo that night and then I go to the gym that I go home, go to sleep and then repeat. I was going at for a while and then I eventually, after not hear anythings from Arizona and New Orleans, eventually got a call from the giants because they had two tendings going out in one week. During treating camp and then I signed Aaron and never well, not really never left, but I was there for two years at the signer for sure. Now what was that whole experience like, going from Taylor rental till I on an NFL team like that? Was Crazy. It was. You know, I'm blessed, if you know, have this mentality of being a humble and I always want to mention the fact that when I was again at Taylor rental, I received the call when me, my friend Lou and my friend Benny, we're all just sitting down and make the downals at a break and then I receive a call from my ad so it was very ishiterating, especially he's saying that we just picked up he's tense, and couple hundred chairs and a couple tables and the whole truck is full...

...and it was a ninety degree day. But yeah, it truly is a busing to be where I'm at because of where I came from. Yeah, yeah, definitely. And I remember you're being on the giant. So I remember listen to a Daniel Fells interview and he was just saying like you're the most, one of the most freak athletes he ever. So also, who's that like when a veteran like that was giving you a good compliment? Right? You know, it's crazy, it's just you know, you know, I looked up the Dale and still do look up the day. You you know, just from his his level of veteran leadership that he brought to the table and also his, you know, keen ability to you know, pick up on athletes talents like he did, because he always watched film, and that's where I got it from him. Originally, was to bring up my next level of watching film and being prepared, because it seemed like he was always prepared every single question. The coach, as he was always prayed, and I wanted to be that person because, you know, the coach is valued people like that. You know I'm saying it. Obviously you want to make sure that you're doing well on Game Day. But yeah, it was, you know, one of those things where, you know, I was always considered freak es actually, but I felt like for me to get sinue you, to keep being a better player, I needed to keep my freak is gut giving abilities, but also acquires new talents and traits, you know, whether it be, you know, running around differently front, learning Diagonistan route so I could play even faster, even be a more of a freak is jathlete. And definitely, and going back to the giants, when they called you, did you have a try out or was it you signed right away? At first I had worked out with New York before I had a sign with them in the summer. So I had worked out with them and around me in this spring and I had worked out with them when they had originally Sawed Josh Freeman and I had worked out with him. And the good thing about it I knew I could play this league because I have never caught a pass from NFL caliber quarterback, like starting quarterback, and for me to go and that work out and not have any drops in being able to catch every past that was a true testament. Like it's just little steps along the way just kept giving me me more and more confidents, like hey, listen, because that is natural way for you to, you know, doubt yourself. By the same time, you know always, you know, rehumble myself, refocus myself every single time, especially in situations, because you know, if I didn't do that, I would have been detrimental for my career. Yeah, for sure that you said that work. I was your Josh Freeman. Yeahs were job freeman. And then, and then that's when I got signed over the summer when they had to and Titians, when Downa Yott, Gotcha. Yeah, so it was a little gap of I'm about two months where I wasn't with the team but I had worked out with them. Yeahcha. And by the end of that two thousand and fourteen season, I know you got on the active roster for two games. So how did I feel to get put on the active roster going from the practice squad? Yes, so great, you know, because considering, you know, the whole year on practice, live, you know, grind and developing, and I felt there's, though, like the giants. I feel, you know, forever, and did it to the giants for give me opportunity. But yeah,...

...it was great, you know, greatest space to be in New York but missing in the giant by the same time. I you know, they did give me my first opportunity. So forever. I'm grateful for that. Yeah, definitely. So then after the two thousand and fifteen season, the giants call you and then the jets pick you up. So I think we're on there for like a couple weeks, though. Yeah, literally, it was a very eventful May. Yeah, because I was on three teams in a matter of three weeks. started it started off season with the giants and the giants released me around beginning of May. Then it just picked me up five days there and they released me to day for my birthday. Then the tightest called all my birthday. So it was very exalful, very eventful May. Yes, to say at least, it was a weird like, I know you were only there for two weeks, but the jets, since they're in the same facility, is that weird? Not Really. I mean they got the different, you know, practice facilities. But you know, yeah, met life. It would have been dope continue to keep playing it and metlife. But yeah, first a little bit weird to go down to the little cross unravel, you know, going to form a part. But again, you know, it was a great opportunity. It was just a wrong timing. Yeah, you know, just the time. You know, they needed my running back because they had a couple of unrests coming off the season injuring ending injuries. So I can see what it did. Deal was made, you know, for me. You know, they really liked me. It was just the fact that I was hot now because I just got there. Yeah, definitely. And then you should the titans picked you up on your birthday, so that must have been a relief year release. One day, you get picked up the next day. Oh, yeah, definitely, and it was. You know, it's a true testament to my agents will and his desire to see me be successful. And that's the greatest thing about him is that she does everything to maximize every opportunity. He doesn't want to meet the just go somewhere just because he wants me to go there so I can, you know, play and showcase my talents. So, Jake is my agents amazing. Yeah, and you're worth the times for what two? Three years? Yes, I was with them for two years. You have two years, Gotcha. And what would you like playing for the titans again? You know the tie ends. You know we're amazing organization. You know, they gave me an opportunity. I learned. It was a great time to be there. Even though I didn't play. I have the opportunity to play because of the titans ahead of me, but still it gave me that opportunity. Being that that third year player, where no second thirtyr players are prone to austill issue. So, you know, was good to be around those guys because I learned from the Lady Walker Anti Pacano in Philip superna. You know, these guys collectively had about thirty plush years and NFL. You know those it was. It was pretty crazy, you know, to be in at Rome, but it was, you know, good, fun loving atmosphere and you know, learned a lot from those guys and you know, I value that time in Nashville because it was amazing. Nash's Amazing City. If anyone is wants to go, you better go. But Nashville and no organization the Tians or in the right direction at this time moment, and Nashal's trending...

...right now for people's vacation spots. Yeah, I understand and I did some research and you were released in resigned over thirty five times in the last six years. So what keeps you motivated to keep on going? Well, well, case you motivated is just the fact that I know I could play this league. It's the fact that it's been caught up in Werir situations. I don't like playing. You know, the scapegoat, but I was hurt get to those fifteen year my first year playing, I got hurt my first gate and then when I was a Tennessee I was behind the Lanny Walker and USANO. was nothing I could do. Those guys know their best. Like it was just the fact that I did everything I can, which was give my body healthy and get mental routs. But I felt like those opportunities helped make me into the player that I am today. Yeah, definitely know. What was it like the first time you got released, and then now, like, since it happens and you get resigned, and then like, what is it like now? I'm sure it's like a normal to you now, night and time, I feel like I was. He's going went through a high school break up the thirty fifth time. I mean it just it's just one of those things where, and I'll say like it doesn't affect me. Yeah, you know, it's going to affect anyone. He knows you're dreaming. This is what you could dreaming about since you were you know, you can remember your James. You know. So it's going to affect you, but at the same time, that thirty fifth time, it doesn't affect me nearly as much as that first time, but it did affect me at first time. I still remember it in the Jerry Suffice. But Jerry's you know, gave me some words like hey, man, like easy. Just told me like hey, like you work hard, but at the same time, like you need to like continue to keep being a better athlete. Working hard alone it's not going to get you to where you want to go. So, like I take that and you know, not every each and every day I'm making sure that I'm doing every step I can and become a better assoute. Yeah, definitely, and I think there's a perfect question for you, because I think you can answer it almost the best, probably out of anyone I ever had. So what could you get? What kind of inspiration could you give other kids that are trying out to be in the NFL or NBA or mlb or any kind of sport? I feel like the biggest thing that I've learned, and you know, I have to do as some self reflecting and, you know, just always talk about my story and it's just keeping his word, perseverance, and you know, perseverance is key. Just keep pushing and a lot of things is you know, I feel like especially this day an age, and don't like the class of a whole group of people, but I just like just watching, like I feel like everyone expects to hand out, but there's not going to be a hand out. It's always going to be hard work throughout the path. Like, you know, even if you look at other people, I feel like we always look at people as they are and forget the path that they travel. You know I'm saying. I'm saying is we just see who they are now and then like hey, we want to be that, and then once we start trying to make steps towards being that, then we give up. But at the same time, that journey is the most important part, as opposed to being at the top of that moment. So I feel like the biggest thing is just always keep pushing and always not just waiting for the opportunity, but also being prepared for...

...the US, because it was times in which I could have not worked out, like I was working out two three times a day at some points. What I wasn't working and I told myself that I would not be the reason why I'm not getting an opportunity. I'm gonna let the teams decide for me, not getting opportune and I'm not going to sit here and but hey, let I'm not in shape, because that's the thing I can control. Yeah, I could be in shape, I can't be a better athlete. I could be more mobile, I could catch passes, that stuff. I could control stuff. I can't control the team side of me. A team give me work out. But at the same time that's the beauty of the relationship, especially being an athlete, and no, I'm and just be an athlete. Anything in life in general, you have to have perseverance, you have to have persistence. You just got to keep pushing because it's going to be times where you fail. But at the same time, you know what difference is me from you is that I might failed two times and then get it. You might fail fifteen, twenty, twenty five times, but you gave up on that twelve time. You know, saying yeah, it's like anything in life. You know, Thomas Edison, you know, felt hundreds of times developed in the light pop you know, you look at multiple athletes, just so many different examples out there. I mean it's so easy to look at the athletes now, but once we start digging into the research and digging into why they got to this point. I feel like it's going to be more beneficial and help more athletes, as opposed to just show them. I'm like, Hey, this person made it and they got there do hard work. But no, given examples a hard work. Hey, listen, like this person didn't go out or, you know, after after school, was working out two hours. You know, it's just just giving kids example. And I feel like any and if I can make it, anyone can make it. You know, I'm just a M anyone special. I'm just a small kid, you know, from what a break Connecticut. You know I'm still kid at heart. You know, population of Hundred Twentyzero. Like, if I can make it, anyone to make it. Yeah, definitely loved it and you played with some great quarterbacks such as you. I marrying, Marcus Mariota and Matt Stafford. So what's it been like playing with those three great quarterback? Truly is, you know, busting, you know, because of the fact that, you know, I want from Elie, two times super bowl winner, and then I went from Marcus Mariota, like it's still accurate, so great gift, to pass Lester. But you know, it's just so dynamic as an athlete. And then I go to Detroit and you know, massaff a great leader. You know, they're all great leaders, but you know, best efforts arms and his his throwing abilities and throwing skills is, you know, it's a second to none. You know, probably, you know, probably, I would say, you know, maybe pat my homes is arguably like because Papa homes gets more pressed because you know the dire actually, you know, you know they're winning, you know, playing the Prittime of games. But you know, math to staffers is right there because you know, stuff I see in practice, stuff I see in the Games where he's selling pisses and now I'm really like looking. It's astonishing. But you know, those three quarterbacks are a volut them and you know I respect them and I always, you know, try to take a little something from them. And I always saw those three, you know, their franchise...

...quarterbacks, all three, always mentally prepared and always, you know, on top of her stuff. Yeah, yeah, definitely. And what's your goals for the two, two thousand and nineteen fee? One is to you know, one of my goals is to make sure that I'm doing everything possible to continue to keep getting better as an athlete. My second goal is to make the team and my third goal, once I make the team, is just to be a contributing chapter to this team, because I feel like we can go far and I really value that and I'll value the hard work that we do in Detroit. My value everything that we do because it's all stuff debt you have done along the way to help you be successful. You just said we're just doing NFL. No, we don't lose that. It's just a guy and I love it because it just helps you become a better athlete. Yeah, definitely. He's ready for some fun questions. Yeah, what's on your playlist right now? playlist, I would say, is just spotify. ME. No, wrap how you are. I mean, I listened to a lot of different music, but I would to say I wouldn't say I have a go to song right now. I'm just really just listen to anything. You got to just put it on truffle. Oh, yeah, you got you. What about? Who are your top five favorite players all times? NFL, or I could be any sports athlete. Top Five of all time, I will have to say any sport, not in any order, but I would just say day Lebron James. I'm a favorite NBA players NFL. I looked up in Tony of gates, Tony Gauzells, running Davis, Nanny Walker. You know this, just just people that you know, players that we're at. My petition for sure. For sure. Last one, if you had to eat one food for the rest of your life, would it be? I? He's a guy, but okay, all the piece of that Ian is going to be very upset because I'll have to go a burger and prior though. All right, that's a change up right there, which with bonus question. What's your favorite pizza then? And in Connecticut, favorite piece, I would say, I mean I can't go wrong with either. Pepe's a matter. I still Tuesday they have a pizza. I've been a lot of places and people are like, Oh, this is the best piece of my you have for sure, and I was like, well, do hey to connetiquette. Am I not to see you try it? Try to tell you definitely, definitely. Well, I appreciate you coming on and best of luck in the two thousand and nineteen season. No, I'll be watching. Thank you. Appreciate you having me on. And where could they find you're on social media. My instagram is j on the score, cutting him many for my twitter is Jay on the square, cutting him eighty four as well. And that's that's pretty much. But might too. As You well, I'm on the most. So yeah, for sure, that's the five form a choice today, for sure. Oh yeah, I appreciate you again. Coming up, appreciate you. This episode was powered by receptor naturals. My name is boss Ruten and here are my top three reasons why I love receptor. First, when I stopped taking prescription paint pills in two thousand...

...eight, I didn't have anything to replace them with until I discovered Receptra, which has helped me a lot. Second, if I have a long drive in front of me, I take it before I start driving. Why? Because it keeps my mind and my back muscles more relaxed, and that makes it easier for me to deal with idiots in traffic. Third, if I really want to push myself, I take it before a workout, because it helps with less selected asset build up, and that means I can push myself much harder. Those are my top three reasons. God speat.

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