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John Beam | Average To Savage EP108

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This is the one hundred and eighth episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring Netflix's Last Chance U star Coach John Beam of Laney College. Paul Guarino talked with John Beam discussing his time on Last Chance U, his 40 years of football coaching experience, and his best moments as a coach. Follow Coach John Beam https://www.instagram.com/coachjohnbeam This podcast interview with Coach John Beam was originally recorded September 30, 2020

This is the average to savage podcast with Paul Greno everyone in anyone, athletes, so ebs and much more. WHAT'S UP, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the average savage podcast. Or special guests today is coach John Bean. Coach. I was going. I am awesome. Thank you for having me on your show. I'm so far done and thanks. Thanks for coming on. I'm sure you've been doing a lot of interviews after the last chance of you, but let's just go back in time, like how do you how did your first get involved in coaching and why did you want to become a coach? You know, I'm not sure exactly how I you know, did I want to or not, but I was pretty interesting story. I'm playing junior college football. My first year I make all conference as an offensive Lineman, and then my second year, you know, I'm thinking I'm big time, I'm going to get recruited to go done. Understand, I'm six foot tall, two hundred and thirty pounds. I'm going to go big time as a d one off its alive and right, you know. But my mindset as I could do this right kind of like you know, I'm going to go from you know, average to savage, right, you know what I mean. So anyways, halfway through the season and you know, the first conference game, I blow out my knee and so I'm done. You know, ACL MCL cartlets a whole nine. So in a cast for a week. You know I mean for six weeks, hospital for a week. Fast forward, I don't have any scholarship offers and I finally get one to go to eastern New Mexico, but I have to have a second surgery in June. I won't be able to play. As I tell a guy and he goes, hey, that's okay. What was scholarship will bring you in and you know, January's all right, fine. So I tell my offensive line coach, you know who I was real close with, Charlie Popa. He Goes Hey, good, now go over here. I go, what do you mean? Says, well, you're not just going to hang around do nothing. Go up here. That this high school. They're about three years old or you know, pretty new school. They offensive line coach. You can go be it. I go, I am you. Yeah, you're gonna do a great job. So I did. In the coach, head coach, there was a young guy named Mike Williams, phenomenal coach, and so I coach with them for two years. We took the team first time ever to the playoffs. It was phenomenal. I had a great experience of my loved and so I decide, Hey, this is what I want to do. So kind of by chance, you know, but I was never at that point. I didn't I was never going to be a division one football player. I never going to go the NFL. So I just said I might as well just start coaching. So I started coaching when I was like twenty years old and have been going until now, sixty one and covid. You know, that's crazy. That's crazy. So what was like? Yeah, what was your first coaching job and then what? What age were you first a head coach? So I started out as a the offensive line coach on the Var Sea in San Diego, Sarah High School for two years. Then I took it your off to get married and moved. When I moved to the Bay are and I started at skyline in one thousand nine hundred and eighty two as a defensive coordinator on the Varsity. So I did that for five years and then I became the head coach after that. So as probably around so that have been five seven. It's about twenty seven years old, twenty eight years old, I became the head coach at skyline. Okay, so pretty young. Yeah, I think so. Yeah,...

...definitely. And then how'd you end up at Laney? So, you know, it's kind of a again, you know, like you always hear these people say, when opportunity knocks, answer, but when one door closed, another one opens. So I had been at skylines as the head coach for seventeen years through the S. I never lost a league game, right, regular season game, right. So I've kind of running out of challenge. I've had a number one end a few of teams. And so in California we have at the time we didn't have state championships, right, we had section champions and so I had won eleven section championships, but open was its own section. So we were the smallest of the ten sections in the whole state of California. So I looking for a new challenge and I got offered a chance to coach down at Clovis West High School, which is in central valley, about three hour drive from Oakland. Great Opportunity Football Crazy town, right I mean they when they bring you in for an interview, they actually have a realtor showing you around houses as well. As you know the job, right. It's like a division one job, right. And so I thought I was going to take the job and then I came home one day and my wife, Cindy, was like, you know, been sad all day. I know what's going on. She goes, I want I'll go to clovis with you, because that's what you want. I want to support you, but she didn't really want to leave the bay area and I thought, you know what, she sacrifices so much for me to be able to coach. I couldn't do that. So that door closed. Right after that Laney opened up. So Lanny's in Oakland right. It's it's perfect. I mean I went from a four minute commute to an eighteen minute commute right. So it made sense. So I took the job and the idea was I was going to be the running back coach one year, then I was going to be the offensive coordinator and then eventually the head coach. So that happened just like that, except for they added the title of Athletic Director as well real early. So I was actually the athletic director in the offensive cordus. I was the head coaches boss and he was my boss. Kind of an interestinct, you know, dynamic, but we got along so well. We're great, you know, friends. So he's a great coach. I learned a a lot from them. So it was perfect. What about, I got to ask, besides coaching, have you done any other job? Well, yeah, I'm a Hosta, right, so I've I've been you know, I've worked as a custodian. Even so, even listen to this, you'll appreciate this. Right. So, as a teacher you don't make a ton of money, right, you know, you and then if you're coaching, so I worked for a number of years with Parkin wreck here in Oakland. So I would run open Jam's, run basketball tournaments. They have these lodges, so I was a custodian. I would set up for weddings and parties, you know, lay out the tables and chairs and pick him up afterwards. I've done all that. Yeah, and I worked for the National Football League, so I guess that was football. That was yeah, not too much outside of football. But usually you know any in the commune in Oakland I did a lot of stuff community base rights and with the parking rack and things of that nature. Yeah, Not Dad, not too much of theman teaching a coach and know that's pretty much been my career. What about...

...like when was it that you went like full time coaching, like, because I think, like a lot of people don't realize that most of the time probably coaches aren't full time coaches. Well, I've it's never even now, right, because for yeah, yes, right, so full time teaching, I was right, started in one thousand nine hundred and eighty two I've been teaching. So you know, it's pretty long time. So that's what twenty two, Thirty Nine Years Teaching and coaching I got. So what's it been like from high school to coach in College? Kids, like what's the biggest difference? The biggest difference really is just recruiting, right. You know, high school they just show up. You got to go recruit, you know, you got to drive around, convinced people to come and you know, and then when I got to landy, we weren't a powerhouse, right. So now you're trying to convince people to go play for you and they're like, I'm thinking you could even made my high school team and I'm trying to beg you to come play for me. You know, like, wait a minute, hold on, there's something wrong here. But you know, that kind of worked out, worked itself out. Coaching is coaching. Does that make sense? Right? It's still getting the knowledge that you have to the players and getting the players to perform on the field and if you can do that you can be successful. Right. I don't know that when you look right now some of the new at the offense that you see in the NFL and college. Let's start, you know, with the zone read and the air raid and things like that. A lot of that start in high school. Right. It's the same concept. So it hasn't really changed. It's really getting, you know, the players to buy into the concept that in learning those concepts, whatever they are right, finding a way to get it to that they can understand what you want them to do. That's what teachings all about. Yeah, and now I definitely agree with that because, I mean, I work with athletes and then, like, people ask me like Athlete Marketing, and people ask me like can I do like social media for like a landscape company? I'm like, yeah, why not? Like I'll figure it out. Like it's the same concept of just different dynamic. I guess you say, yeah, it is, and I think it's it's so important that we realize that the people have these skills. Right, if you if the world comes down to some people skills, right, if you have good people skills, you're going to be successful. Right, you just have to kind of figure out what it is. Right, I'm selling widgets or I'm selling you the chant to come play for me at Lady Right, I'm still selling. Yeah, you know. Yeah, exactually, and I know you had a lot of guys go done both from the high school and the college. Is are I mean landy, you know, being at Community College, like I think what you have over a hundred, I think it is. Yeah, when I was in high school, has averaging about four or five a year. So you know, O're seventeen years. You know our twenty two years. That's about a hundred there right there. And then it landy. We probably there's times we do double digit, ten, Eleven, twelve guys, right, because you know you're getting a different player in now, right, so most of will go DNE. So yeah, what does that mean? That you're just like get those those kids. That do you want? So I don't. This kind of makes me different from a lot of people. Right, and I love the name of your show, by the way. Right, because right here's a deal. Why done? WHY...

NOT DTWO? Why not in the eye? Just go somewhere with that. Somebody wants you, right, and then you do. You, and so for me in the city of Oakland, and you're a new haven right, and stand my buddy stand Holmes, tells me sometimes, you know, new haven has a lot of similar to oaken, but there's a black and brown community don't do well in school. Right, there's a high dropout right. So if I can get them from at Skyland, my goal was to get them to graduate high school. Right at Lantea is to get them to transfer to another school. And if they can do that, I don't care where it is. What's the difference between USC and Southern Connecticut? Connecticut College, Right, I mean really, they get to plan, they get a degree and if they don't have to pay, that's the key. Right, if you're good enough, the NFL find you no matter where you're at. Yeah, no, I definitely agree with that. Like I think. I think even on the show. It showed that they were taking the D one, I'm a d two offers because they were given them more scholars yeah, you know, think of I had it. This is I tell people the story. So I back in skyline to guys, best friends. Right. One of them goes to USC right when the national championship peak. CARROL's got the ring. See, you know all that. The other kid turns down a Division One scholarship and goes to Columbia, which is a one double, a non scholarship. You know, Ivy Lee, right, but at the time he got more money. Right, because when you're on fulls financial delayed at an Ivy League, they pay for everything. They pay for your flight home and back, they pay for you to buy winter clothes. At the time before the NCAA change the rules for the full cost of attendance. Right, you don't, you didn't get you don't have money to buy pizza, right, when you're at USC right. So you know, if you look at monetary the Ivy was a better job. And if you go to an academy, so I've had kids play at the Naval Academy, Air Force Academy. Right, will shoot. They pay you every month. Yeah, and you got a job when you're done. So, you know, if you look at the things and for you know, for for a young man of color, it's look at your options more closely than just saying I got this scholarship. Right, you know, there could be some better avenues for life after football. Right, the connections that you make at certain schools can go a long way for your success. And then what about, like, what is your relationship been with like all the players, like, even after they graduate college? So I think that's one of the things I love best, right, is that I'm still close to almost all the guys I coach with. Right, and you know, when the show came out, people were hitting me up for back in San Diego for years ago, my first job and coaching guys. Hey, you remember me, you know, and I did. And even people that I've taught years ago, like pee, because you know, they you know, young women are young guys at just on my p class and I make my p class so fun. They still remember me and they were are it up. I was on the show and there's a coach. You haven't changed and I remember you took my quarter in class too,...

...you know. So those are the fun things right. Maybe that was my job. I was hustling quarters, you know. But you know, I think it's important that we build relationships and, like I tell the kids, man, when I recruit you, I recruit you for life, you know, and I'm will be that guy. And I remember when I had all these kids coming through skyland going d one and you know, I've had over twenty kids play in the NFL, right, or be on a you know, be a camp, mini camp, someone with the NFL and guys. You said, well, coach, you should be an agent, you could be my agent. You know you you know the deal, your and you know money. You're a hustler and I would say no, I couldn't be right. Said why I can't? I be you age? Because I said because if I'm your agent, then I work for you and I got to tell you what you want to hear. I'm your coach and, you know, hopefully your friend. So I can tell you the truth that you know you ain't shit, you ain't working hard enough. You know you need to work on these. You need to think about life, actor football. Right. So those are the things that I think that were important and you could have this honest relationship and but people don't understand. His kids actually want to hear the honesty. They want that honestly that you know, they want to hear the truth. You know, we sugarcoat too much. Yeah, yeah, definitely agree with you now, especially, especially now, even more so I probably, I'd say. Yeah. So going into last chance you, how did they how they find you? How they find out about you personally and the how did how did they pick your school man? You know what, I still don't know. Right. I'm sure they do research. The the I got contacted right after we won the State Championship, you know, where the number one team in the country and CJ Anderson was making this big run with the Rams, you know, helping him get to the Super Bowl. So they're on La. So I'm assuming they you know, they watched, you know, reading the paper or whatever, looked around. They knew they wanted to come to California. So they already knew they're going to pick a JAC in California and then they kind of said that they were looking for they had been in rule areas. They wanted to do an urban area. Well, Oakland's pretty probably most urban that you can get. And then they decided they wanted someone that was a little bit more mature than the last coaches, you know, like not in mature in the sense of more years of coaching under their belt, you know what I mean? So forty years is pretty mature, right. So I guess I just checked enough boxes, right, you know. But they say when they came to meet me and they walked around Laney and he walked around Oakland and, you know, they just said my name and people goes, Oh, you know, coach beam, and they just kind of lit up and they decided that they really wanted to tell the story of Oakland and since I had such a connection, it made sense for that as well. So I think it just all kind of blended. You know, I don't think it was any one thing. You know, I like to say, Oh, because I'm this photogenic or I'm just winning charismatic guy, but it's probably just by chance. I hit enough boxes, you know, on the checklist. You know, what about like did you have? You had to make the decision to be on it or not. Are Like who did you have it? Yeah, so when they first sent me the first email, we had the first conversation with Lucas Smith won the producers you know, as you can tell, I'm pretty family oriented.

So I sat down with my family, right and my wife's like Nah, I don't think that's a good idea. My oldest daughter like no, Dad, that's not a good my youngest daughter, Dad, you got to do it, you got to do it right. And and then my son in law was like hey, I mean it for the ride whatever, you know. So you didn't really care. So then I did that. Then I went next to my staff, the guys have been close with me. So so Kay, my assistant, Derek Kevin, the guys that have been with me for since skyline, for twenty plus years. I asked them what they thought. Then I went to the next to senior guys on my staff and I finally went to the whole staff. Once that in the whole staff was like it's a no brainer. You have to, you have to, you have the only one that was now was my assistants, seeks. The Kai was kind of like yeah, beam here, I don't know it. We want them here in our business all day long, you know. So then I had a then approach the president, right, and then the president of vice president. So the vice president, Vicky, you know, she's from the south, or husband's a college coach, soccer coach, so you know, they you know the south, you love sports. or She's like watched every episode of last chance. You she's like, Oh yeah, we got to do it. The president, you know, she's like, yeah, I don't have time for watch TV. I've never seen it. So whatever you guys think that, I went to the chance and the chance like yeah, we need this, good, let's do it. So yeah, it's like okay, let's make that you know. Oh Yeah, what about where you were? You has it. Were you hesitant at all? Yeah, I was definitely. Hasn't why I was definitely here. Are you sought? So? Did you are before you you guys got recruited to be on the show? Did you watch the show beforehand or no, I had watched. I kind of by chance caught season one. Okay, like I didn't even know about it, and then I kind of watched too and I saw three parts of it and then when they start talking to most and then I better watch all the three. Yeah, and then by the time for came out, we were already had said we were in it, you know what I mean, and at that point on my Oh my good, like you know, you look at it, you okay, like in season one, the coach and the referee getting a fight, you know what I mean? Like, well, I don't get in a fight with referees. I joke with them on whatever. Right. Season three, man, I don't know that. I don't think that's me. Let's you know. So it's just tough, you know, you just you don't you don't know how the cameras going to play you. So they shoot six to seven hours of film six days a week and what you all see is just eight hours. Yeah, that's a lot of film and they you know, I'm sure that nobody, no human being, can be perfect or look good in those eight hours, right, you know what I mean? So they could choose how they want. So then you meet Greg, Greg is phenomenal, and you start to tell him. He said, just trust me, I'm going to you know, I'm not trying to hurt anybody that, I just want to tell your story. So, once he said that, my wife and are like,...

...okay, if you truly want to tell us our story, then we think we have a good story to tell. Right. So I think we just trusted him and it turned out fine, yeah, what about you know about like buddy Stevens and Jason Brown before? No, never know if it was a thing because, like dad like a lot of championships or you know, like you guys know e's other because it Juko's and stuff like that. No, because we'll think about it. Right. So Buddy at East Mississippi, but I really don't know him, and Jason was just starting with his first head coaching job right. So I would you know, we knew about Kansas Jac's because the Kansas JC's come in California ch other recruit a little bit, but Mississippi doesn't come to California to recruit. So you don't really know about him. What I know is that California Jac's our community colleges right. There's more of us than all the rest of the country combined, and we play pretty good. We play really good football here right now. We may not have the talent that East Mississippi has, right, because they get all this sec bounce backs or you know, ACC balance back, but California is different. Here's the other thing. We're all teacher right. We're a professor's or start, how do you want to call it? So we have a different code of ethics that we have to follow. Right, you can lose your job if you do certain things. You know what I mean, and that's a nice pension we have at the end of the day, if you think about it. Know, ever, sure. And then what was your reaction to it? When you're at your season came out. Well, what was your reaction? Let me ask you that first. I like that. I mean I've been I've been a fan since the first season, or actually, I don't know if it was the first season. In a second season I watched and then I watched this first season, the second lead. But yeah, I've been a fan since then and I think I interviewed everybody, at least one person from each season, and so we're a little bit different than the other guys. A Little Bit Huh, for sure. You're at, you're a lot of bit different than the other two cooking okay, so number one. When it first came out, so we my family, we watch it ten days before everybody else did, right, and so you know, we were we watch the first four together, you know, as if we watch all thegither in the first for the first night, and I'd say we were a little shocked you know what I mean, like, Oh my God, really, it's the first time you ever see yourself on TV. That's weird. You know what I mean, and you say that now. I was so funny when the first trailers came out. I thought, old man, these trailers are awesome. I was telling everybody they don't ever put the show on, just just show trailers. Right, we're good on the trailers. But you know, it's a little tough seen yourself, right, and you know, Oh, did I really do that? was I that hard on this kid or you know, why was it? Why let that happen? That I you know, and then the next so you watch and you watch it again and then you just hear everybody's comments about it. Right at the New York Times, I mean I got a they interviewed me and put a full page article on the Sunday New York Times. Yeah, that's you...

...know, like God, I guess you know that. I was on access Hollywood, mean the Kardashians, you know, like, Oh my God, I don't even know how to do social media. You know, I need your hell, right, you know. And then I was on Esquire magazine. Right, I'm like, man, I wear shorts and Jordan's, you know. I mean I don't know how I get on Esquire magazine, you know. So it was different and you go, okay, but people kind of had a they liked it, they liked the way we did things. And then all the people that knew me for a long time kept coming back to me and said, you know what, you didn't change, you're still the same guy. Or other coaches like, Oh, you didn't play for the camera. That was you. You know, that was good that you were trying to play up to the camera one way or the other. Right. And I don't know buddy or the other guy, Jason Brown, played to the cameras. Are Not, but I did, you know. I mean what you saw is what you get, you know, and so I don't know, to be interesting to hear what the what other the other two how they felt afterwards. But I think, you know, I'm probably, you know, where they happy that they think that they you know, wasn't played right. You know, there's things I wish they would have shown. You know that they didn't show, but it is what it is. Right. Yeah, I'm waiting. I'm waiting for them to drop a whole bonus season on each one because they got, I know they got enough film to do it. But all they definitely do, and I know I think this. They said, they say that your season was the last football season. I believe. Yeah, yeah, I think they're going basketball for January. Maybe. I think. Yep, Yep. They've finished one season basketball, hoping to film the second season, right, and they're going to. I think they started a second season of cheer when the Covid hit to ride. So you know, I think for Greg he's ready for a new challenge. Right. Five, five season football. Maybe need something else to challenge him. I don't know what. I go back again? I mean obviously I would go back because you know, we signed a contract to go back, but I'm like, Oh man, what would I change, you know, if I got back, are you gonna? You know what? I'm just going to be me. Excuse me. You guys are supposed to do a second season. Yeah, you sign a five year contract with them and they always come back for to they said so they planned. They you know, the crew told me they expected to see me next year. So then they called when the when the trailer came out, saying was season five was a final. A couple of the producers call back said we didn't know, we're so heartbroken. You know, yeah, so, yeah, it's so going into now. Like, what's it? What's it been like for you? I know your guys are trying to have a season in the spring. It's been tough, I'M NOT gonna lie to you know. It's been being shut down. No football for me, no football for my players and coaches. I've been worrying about our young men, you know, are they in school? How they doing with you know, they don't have computers, they don't have wi fi at home. Their families or struggling? You know, they're struggling. So worried about that. At the same time, I'm having to read every article, like you know, learn about the electrostatic sprayers and different...

...ways to keep everybody safe, because that's my job, as you aff let your head coach. My job is to make sure everybody safe. I'm not willing to put anybody at risk and less they're safe right and so I think it's important that we keep that in mind as we push right. Colleges are having all types of issues right now. Pros. Finally, you know, they had some guys test, you know, positive. Baseball Miss League Baseball has some outbreaks, right, and so a young guy that plays at Laney, most likely covid nineteen, will be asymptomatic me not even know they have it. But when they go home, who do they live with? Right? That's why I worry about their grandmother, the grandfather, uncle, aunt, right, cousins. That's who we have to worry about, you know, and that's the part I can't control. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, no, there's no. Okay, there's no college football in California right now. Right, well, now we're set to play in the spring pact. Troel is going to start at the end of October. I think. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, that's right. I think it's care I mean I think it's pretty crazy that the college. I mean I get the NFL because, you know, it's like a money thing, but I feel like the college is kind of should have all of them should have shut down. It's all about money. Yeah, same thing. Yeah, let's face it, it's about money. You know how much they're losing, right, and so football doesn't bring in the money. That means that you're not going to be a women's gymnastics or more across country or track that school, the programs that don't bring in money, right. So how you going to feel those programs with you don't have that windfall of money from football? So, yeah, it's a tough one for sure. Now, going back till last chance you and you said all the media coverage you got, like who are some people that reach out to you that you're like shock about? Her, like happy or anything like that. There was a local TV station San Diego, I grew up right, that follows high school sports and so they do segments. So that was cool. Hawaii, obviously, because you know I have a number of players at Hawaii. They did a couple articles, but locally. And then guys like you know, who has a podcast. Right. That's, you know, goes from underrated to, you know, sad. I mean this is just great, right, you know, to meet you. And then there was this young, too young kids I met. They're like ten grade, you know, they have a podcast. As it goes, I haven't turned down anybody's just trying to fit it in my schedule, right, but I don't want to turn anybody down, because who am I? My job, like is just like as a coach, right, as to help you know, believe in peoples, they can believe in themselves. Right. So this is in it sounds like you're established podcaster, but some of these are brand new podcasts. Well, if I have the time, you know, I can give you thirty minutes. I mean, I'm not big time, but you know what I mean. So it's cool. Now I think you have a way, you know, bigger following. But you know what I'm saying. It's like, let's just do it. You know I mean that's Nope, yeah, the same thing. I'm doing that too right now for my for just my personal brand, I'm going I've just been getting on just brandon podcast tell my story. But I meant...

...like who was there any like famous people that reach out to you, because I I interviewed RJ and de or and they're telling me like, you know, some NFL players reach out to them and stuff like that. Yeah, so, like, you know, Sean Payton and I have a relationship from twenty seven years ago, so he reached out to me. You know, people like that, and you know it's been, you know, blood of I think the mayor of Oakland had a big shout out told everybody because of the covid you know that don't know what. Hang out on the weekends at the lake, go home and watch the coach Beaman last chance, you know. So yeah, I think. And then, like the couple NFL executives reached out to me, you know, and so I spent I spent about twenty years working for the NFL doing some programs, and so I think you guys still remember my name and reached out to say a you know, was glad you're doing well. That's awesome. Have you ever heard of Ben Bahler? HMM, so, he's he has a he's a jeweler. Is there, like a famous jeweler? Okay, and he's in the he's in, I think of one of the stores in the bay area and and he was talking about you because he found out that you were part Korean, right, yes, so he so, he's Korean. So he was like so gassed up about it. And then he was just like yeah, like coach on. He talked about his podcast. You gotta listen to it. Okay, to check it out. Well, if you know him, telling to come interview. We mainly do this. All I got, y'all, clip, I'll clip that. I'll send it to thank you. Are you ready for some fun questions. are going to go from average to savage. Let's go. I'm Hey, I want to be a savage like you, brother. Let's go. What do you like to do in your free time? Well, anything. Right now it's anything with my granddaughter, right, she takes out my free time. But before my granddaughter was here, anything the ocean. Right. I'm certified diver, a Kayak, I serve body sir. So anything in the ocean. I'm in it to win it. All right, I know, I'm sure you got this question a lot, but have you ever thought about coaching at a higher level, at a due or NFL had the opportunity? been there, done that. Didn't want to do it right now. Maybe. Yeah, you know, if they want to make me an NFL coach, sure, yeah, that'd be a head coach. I got to be in charge. Have you gotten offers now since since you blew up? No, no, because I'm guys. You know, I'm the same guy. So when they offered me back, I I was you know, I turned down. I woul drew my name as a finalist for DV job in the pack ten back in the day. I've been offered jobs in the mountain west so that's not something I aspire to. All right, yeah, about okay, is there any question? Since you've been a lot of interview it, has there been any question that somebody didn't ask you that you wanted to be asked? Now, I mean now that the one of the best questions was these, the two young kids asked me, like what one thing that you know that, if you showed, would symbolize who you were, like, you know, you know, like, Oh man,...

...that was stopped, you know. So then as about my walking stick, you know, makes me unique. Right, I'll take it. And the last question. Do you have any questions for me? So, average to savage. I love it, but why, where did you come up with that? And then, you know, tell me about it? Okay, cool. So, I mean I have my brand page sports, which is my initials. So I want to create a podcast, but I don't want to name it peg sports podcast because I don't want to interview just like athletes and sports personalities, and I want to interview like entrepreneurs, and obviously athletes do, and actors, and that's why I've been doing so. So that's how I created a different name. Besides, and then, you know, I mean average savage is a dope name, so I think it's a really dope name. Yeah, don't how many followers do you have? Are People listen to your podcast? Oh well, my podcast page is not it's not that many, but I like my main page. I have like Twentyzero followers. Twentyzero. Why do you think they follow you? I mean, I've been doing this for like nine years now, so it's been a long time coming. Are Do you think they relate from average to savage? Right, and I think that's why I to like that's why I just like I've been showing my face more. Basically, I was behind like a logo, I'd say, before, so now I've been putting myself out there more. That's cool. I'm much respect for your brother. I yeah, it's funny because I interviewed, I got to interview coach Jason Brown last year. So that's why it's funny that it's it's two opposites. How is that? How are we opposite? I don't know you guys that. You guys are totally opposit people. That's how that's it. You know, I think it's you know, like, like I tell people, right, you know, I've been in Oakland you know, forty years now. Trust me, if I need to get down, I can get down. Why? You know what I mean, like you know, you know, it's like that little dog at you apps all the time. It's a dog. I don't say Shit. You better worry out for report you don't. All Right, actually, I got a last one. Is there anything that you have accomplished in your career that you want to accomplish though? You know how you have bucket list, right. Yeah, and so this weekend I was with five generations of my family, right. And so my uncle owns a driving range, right, so it's not a constant for coaching, but I got to drive the cart, you know, the pick up all the range balls while people were hidden balls. So all my nephews got on there, my cousin's gun, and they're all trying to hit me with the balls, right, but I'm picking up golf balls of range. Then, Miss I was too good. Right now, you know, I don't. I don't. You know, I've been blessed to coach phenomenal athletes. I've been blessed to win a lot of games, championships, I've been inducted to a hall of fame, I've been recognized with the show, you know, but it's just it's just really just the the the accomplishment or the accolades is that I get to bring people along...

...with me. Right, anybody that plays for me or that I've taught is part of my family in my mind, right. So if I can help folks continue, you know, using the platform that I'm gaining right now to help the next generation or the generation I've coached, and that's, you know, comes where I want to continue to do right. So I'm excited about that. You know, I got a couple guys that are that are writers. They're trying to put some movies together, not about me, but just a movie. So, you know, like I'm trying to introduce some one of my guys is the road manager for future, you know, like he's all fired at future. Love the show, he said, I all right, cool, you know. So let mean, those are just things and there and there, and they're like you right. I mean, in essence, they're your logo. They were average in a sense of people looked down the average, but their savage because they didn't let you know what are their circumstances were, to hold them down or be an excuse why they could be successful in climb, right, and so to me that's the beauty of it, all right, you know, and that's why I like that's why I'm just loving your whole average to savage. But I can see it in all these people right fired up. Appreciate it. Yeah, actually, that's where I want to see. I want to see a panel with you, the three coaches. I need that Netflix special. I need it. Yeah, it could get bored. I'm sure we're all sit there. You know, I'm guarantee that everybody'll put on a ring right to make sure their rings got the biggest ring, you know what I mean? or WHO's got the most wins or you know, I don't know. But really, if you end out about it, what you know? What, as a coach, what are you trying to do? Is Is it winning on the field or winning in life? Right, and if you win in life and help young men win in life, then you are successful and if you do it the right way, you're going to get wins on the field to Wright. So just keep that in mind. So, you know, I think that's that's the key. What about our sorry, one last question. Is there anyone from the previous seasons that you watch that you were like, Oh, I wish, like, I guess I could have coached him. are like, I want him on my team. I think there was a ton of great athletes out there and people I'd love to have coach. You know the running back that they had, Isaiah Rider, I think a a right. You know one of the eastmiths stippies, I think, to Code Allen, was a phenomenal young man. Right. The kid that was at east independence, independence was a quarterback that got hurt with the pulled Hams. I think came out of wait force or one of the schools out there was a bounce back kid out of there, Jay Jackson. Yeah, I'm only kind of nonmally Henry. I'm okay with him. You know it all right. Well, I'll end it off on that because I was funny. Well, I appreciate you coming on and could you let the listeners nowhere. They can follow you on social media. Think I'm at coach John Beam or I'm at coach beam.

I'm not sure because I don't know social media well enough. But if you can help them, tell me where to go. Help you know, pick my number's description up with the links. Yeah, I want to be like you. I want to get twenty million followers. I want to get a blue check. Do you have a blue check? I do have bull shit. So how do I get a blue check? I got. Yeah, it's like get a blue check. I got. So you did your research on me, I guess. Yeah, I learned. I'm what you ya your average to savage when you put that name out. I want to see you, brother, but understand this right. You have a blue check. Your authentic just because you came up and put yourself out there. Man to go for it, not because a bunch of people gave you bout chips. That don't don't think that you're good. You're good, dude. Now, I just I just got it recently to yeah, you gotta check out my interviews with R J and Dior, and you will. I will feed back. Good. Can you see our new from? I probably will. I learned something all the time. Hey, can you send me to link when it's all done? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I'll send me. It's probably. I'm probably going to release the next week. Okay, and don't forget, hook me up with the jeweler. baller. got a cream guy. We might be we might be cousins. We don't even know it. Hey, got you all right, I appreciate it. It's brother ever, Goo.

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