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Josh Butler | Average To Savage EP136

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This is the one hundred and thirty-sixth episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring pro football player and entertainer Josh Butler. Paul Guarino talked with Josh Butler discussing his football career at Michigan State, working towards the NFL, and the entertainment side of his life such as him having over 1 million followers on Tiktok and acting in the hit show All American.

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This podcast interview with Josh Butler was originally recorded on August 25, 2021

...this is the average to Savage podcast with paul Guerrino. Everyone in anyone athletes celebs and much more. Today's episode is brought to you by b usr dot com. You know everyone always asks me where they should bet and now I got a solution for them. The U. S. R. Dot com slash paul. You deposit $100 they'll match your $100 in free bets. So you basically get $200. Go check it out, be usr dot com slash paul. What's up everybody? I'm back for another episode. The Average Savage podcast. Our special guest today is josh Butler josh. How's it going? Good, I appreciate you coming on. Thanks for having me man, let's just go back in time a little bit. What's your first memory of playing football? It would have to be from from my little league. Uh my dad started um there on the league football team and I just remember watching my older brother play, he's three years older than me. So I remember watching him play and like my grandma was always like screaming calling his name and stuff like that. Um you know I go steve his name, Stevie or steve steven done Butler, he's a junior um and he shows like oh Stevie go and I'm sitting there like day I want, you know what I'm saying, everybody want grandma love so I want to play football and that's why I kind of how I got into it. It was like inspired by my older brother to just you know play football even though already kind of knew I was gonna be thrown in there. Um Just simply was a football family so so that's probably one of my first memories um And just playing little league flag all the way up now. Yeah that's dope. And then what about like when you were in high school like was there a point where you knew you were like better than the rest? Probably to my to be honest man it's probably took my senior year. Um My senior year was like like finishing my junior onto my senior. Yeah I kind of like figured it out this when I was like getting really good with like punt return, kick returns. Um You know just overall defense. I've also played like corner and safety so after I realized that and then like a lot of offers start coming in. Um Like my first offer came in actually went around my sophomore year and it was from from north texas some U. N. T. That was that was my first offer I had and it was during the summer too so I got that one and then like texas a. And M came around. Um And then like about my when caesar came around from my junior year, they all just came in but then like I didn't realize how good I wasn't a coach, I would be like go Debbie you go you go back their kids to point returns or and I play defense. You know usually misspoke because the players don't get that opportunity to do so Yeah, for sure. And then like yeah, just tell me about, I know you grew up in texas so you gotta tell me about the like the football culture down there because I know it's nuts out of coaches. No no no no no no. The culture of the culture, of the football culture. The culture, I mean coaches are nuts too. But you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I believe that. But the culture, I mean there's nothing but football man like everybody know texas is a football state and its year round it's really year around. Um If you're not doing football we're running track. That's what we what we had to do. Um We eat sleep and breathe football literally football every single day. It kept us out of trouble most of us at least. Um In we always do summer training literally. Always we always had something that that was involved with football. I don't think it was a single day we didn't do football even if it was cold outside, you were in your sweats and stuff, you're going outside, can you go practice doing something for a while And I don't realize how much we actually used to do stuff until like you know when you're done with it and you look back at him, we didn't really catch a break as a kid like not really you really constantly did football stuff even in the street, you know what I mean? Like it was always something football. Yeah yeah for sure. And then yeah just going back to your like what...

...was your recruiting process like? Like how like what was it like hard was it? Did you like it? Did you enjoy it? Oh yeah I like it. Um uh Like the coach and stuff was cool to me like one and got me out of classes sometimes. Uh you know some of the times the coaches will come and visit and they asked for certain students or whatever. I would get a call and then my coach coach called my teachers like jobs there and call me and I just go there and all that. I'll be right happy as him uh going down to the office but there was there was real cool. Um And then none of them really like you know what I'm saying be type be weird or anything you know And I made my decision based off like what I felt was best for me and it was for me you know? Yeah what was like your final like three schools? Uh Miami I wanted to go to my that was my goal and my dream school. Um and I got their offer and everything to uh that just simply offer you know the early 2000s class was like reading them you know what I mean? And they're like devin hester he was very inspirational to me to try to go to Miami to uh So Miami Michigan state Uh and then my 3rd 1 was U. C. L. A. All right. So then, alright so then how did you pick Michigan stay over your your dream school? Uh like they were going through some stuff back in 2014, I think that something with like the head coaching, their position coach or something like that. Uh there was some some stuff going on then. So and then that program was like yeah. Um And then like I looked into Mhm U. C. L. A. And then I would go into Michigan state and I originally wanted to major and forensic science. Okay. Um That was my original, this was originally wanted to do and I looked into it and Michigan state at the time was like number four in the country for forensic. Sounds like No like cool. Alright cool. And I looked deeper into it deeper into the football that was winning every year like from like 2013, And then we end up making the playoffs in 2015 the same year I end up going. Um so that's what and then like I visited I took that bus ride up after I took that bus ride. I was like yeah there's gonna have to be the school for me because like I'm not in the way it's gonna take me two days to get all the way up to a school and then like, I'm not picked at school type of thing, you know? So, uh and I wanted to get out of texas. So I don't know if you notice, like I said, all types of schools that was not in texas, I want to get as far away from it as possible ah, simply because like, uh, the environment and then like, I didn't want to be close enough to always come back home because there's always some stuff back home. Yeah, definitely. What, what, like, you know, most, well, I didn't say most like, some players are just like there for football, but you just said like you picked it because like, the major, like, what what gave you that like intuition basically. I mean, I'm I'm a kind of a nerve to be honest. Like, uh, I was always into academics or into the school or something like that. Then already knew like what I wanted to do after football because, you know, football doesn't last forever, the more you age or whatever it may be. We understood that part of it as kids. Um, so it was kind of like already instilled in us to know like, what do you want to do after football type of thing and all right, I'm all right. You know what I'm good uh, now with football, you know what I'm gonna keep working hard, keep doing all that stuff too. That's that's not a problem. But you also got to realize like what do you want to do afterwards because like, I'm in that mode. I mean that mommy right now, like what I what I want to do after the side, I already got it kind of figured out anyway. Um...

So uh but yeah, just that's that's kind of why Gotcha. And then what was your overall experience, like michigan state like on and off the field? Um Alright was, yeah, you're making me you're making me think right now. Yeah, man, because I've been through a lot of stuff, especially going there. So for me, my experiences was kind of up and down um just being in the first of all, adjusting to a new environment. Like michigan the state in general is kinda like it either always raining on, it's always no, I mean, don't get too much sunshine all the time, especially coming from texas. I'm besides you're going somewhere, go on doing that. So that the state was kind of depressing itself, but I can't say like the people made it a lot better um for me simply because like I met people there while bond with forever, that's from coaches, that some players um that's from like normal people, we call an rpc nonathletic regular people. Um Yeah, I mean, I'm a lot, a lot, a lot of uh and our friends and they made school a little bit better for you, not only because they were like there for you or they were like, understand, especially when I was going through the person stage of what I was going through. Um, just literally just talking to people like opening up and you're not knowing that they feel that certain way too and you connect on a certain level now. Um, and then with football, the support from football that I was receiving from not just fans and everything to everybody wanted to see me, um, do really, really good. And like there was always supportive saying like, you know, that was sometimes when you lose games or you mess up on a player. So that's, that's normal. You always get backlash and like this guy sucks or whatever, but that's normal. You want tackle number, You know, I may not, may not play straight on the road. You missed one target. He's got his ass. Okay. Anyway. Anyway. But yeah, man, it's, uh, I'll say my overall, especially towards the end was was really, really great. Um, just the, uh, overall with persevering through everything. The support, uh, the Spartan love, like the, the anywhere I go anytime I walk from michigan state or something like that. It's always somebody that either went to the school a long time ago or something or just like recently about to go to the school or something like that. They always recognized michigan state. That's literally every word that I've been and people will literally be like, all right. You know what I'm saying? I got you now, you already know you're part of the family. I don't really know. You know, you I know you went to the school, so you're part of the family type of thing. It's yeah, it's deep, I don't know, it was that deep into like, I liked left school and it's like a whole bunch of Spartans that's out in the l A whole bunch of pardons is in texas um pretty like I said anywhere that I go, there's a lot of Spartans. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I think a lot of people, I mean because like 18, you know, I don't think people realize that because I don't you just don't know that. But like, yeah, they're like alumni connection where you go, it's kind of like important in that aspect of like, because it could be when you're at one of the big schools, like a lot of people, there's a lot of people everywhere. Um And then just going, just tell me about like, how how do you get both your dog's Roxy, Roxy and Ronnie Mhm Rock scene. Um They both came from uh one of my best friends is Gary and Clemens, he his his family, his family's dog was like having puppies. Um and I was like looking for homes for for the dog, right? And I think It was a litter of like kind of like four or 3 or so,...

...because I know I got one, then he and his sister got went and then um his other sister got the other dogs, and then like the rest, I don't know what well they do it, But uh but yeah, I got roxy first roxy for now. Um I got her actually right after the Michigan game that we beat them in 2010, right, literally, right after that game the next day, I got roxy uh and that's how she came into my life because like they was literally just trying to find homes for their like dogs because they were it was really unexpected, like they had puppies or whatever, they weren't telling them that it was literally looking for homes, or So I got a completely free and like he asked, he was like asked, he was literally asking everybody around, he's like we're trying to find homes for for these puppies or whatever, and I was like don't do nothing. And so I was like, I'm like literally, I don't I don't know, I don't party, I don't smoke, I don't drink, I don't, you know, I mean I don't do none of that. Uh And I was like liberal to dog, it's gonna be, you know, saying I take a dog, it's like he's like cool you for real, I'm so serious and I was like what type of dog, you know I mean? It's like it's like a boxing pit mix, it's the dad, that's the mom and that's what the dog looked like. I was like I cool it's like what you gonna name her? I'm like I don't know if we're gonna figure it out when I like see her and I got it. I was like nema roxy I don't know where it came from. We just Roxy so I got her and uh it's just been me and her for for a couple of years and then um the main reason why I was looking into getting another dog was literally because like I didn't I didn't have that much time to like take care of roxy meaning like I started I just started like my masters for one, the football was getting like really intense is close to my senior year. You know what you are saying you got to be your best to Mhm. I'm putting in extra work in football. Um And so I'm like all right, I'm looking at right over all right, it's sometimes I can't even go out and take long walks like we used to or something maybe. And I was like I'm looking to get another dog so simply so they can like play with each other throughout the day or whatever. So I'm looking up animal shelters that's nearby. So the national humane society that's in michigan there. They actually follow me on instagram. They're they're pretty cool. I would go there a lot. Um We took our first, we took our first christmas pitches actually there before um So always like go and check to see if they got like more dogs or something. Um I was looking into it and like some dogs are like already about to get picked up or about to leave or something like that or um Some dogs wasn't we're not like I guess bonding with other animals they have to be like solo type of dogs. Alright Roxanne, what are we gonna do? What we're gonna do something like introduce some of the other dogs, is that the shelters or something to see if they like bond or whatever it may be. And then like sometimes they're like oh yeah this dog just got adopted or something like that and so I just put it out publicly, it was like anybody know where I can like adopt another another dog. You know my homeboy again hit me up. It was like probably won't believe it but they're having more puppies and I was like I was like you kid you gotta be kidding me, you literally got to be kidding. It was like for weeks, for weeks I was looking for other dogs like until I like put it out there that's when he might respond. It's like yeah they haven't more puppies and uh like this is the litter and like they had a whole bunch of them, there's a whole bunch of them This time around, I was like no what I take one um not take another girl uh, you know the girl dog and that's uh, that's how I got ready and I asked the people on instagram like what should I name the new dog And it was, it was out of Bella Remy with the eye and, and somebody said name or foxy. I was like, that's too just to close, I take that out on two names...

Bella and Remy and then like I put it a poll up like what, what should I name her? And a lot of people say agreements are like cool, rainy it is and that's how I ended up getting rocks him in me and as well the rest is history. You already know the story on that. Yeah, So there, so they are technically sisters. They are. Yeah, that's the uh, yeah. Then tell me about just like walking out with them like your senior day because I know that was like, like pretty much like when you went viral and stuff like that, that's, that's how I found a value. Yeah, that's a lot of people figure out this story. Um, basically when I was, it was started summer to be honest because I asked for the meet the Spartans. Um, and like at the meet the Spartans. All right. You got to catch coach deep in a good move first and foremost. You got to catch him in a good mood because you don't catch him in a good move. Everything is gonna be a no so you have to catch him in a good move and I was like on twitter before they suspended my account for no reason, I got to get that back. That's ridiculous man. Um on twitter I was like asking around you know I'm saying joking around and like you know people already kind of knew I had dogs type of thing like that was already knowing that I had dogs before. Like the story like the big big stage whatever came out but somebody like mentioned they were like uh they're like rocks and then we're going to be at the meet the Spartans in our time and act like coach d but I don't think he said nothing at that time. So I asked him in person while he was in a good move. I was like a coach. I don't know if you've seen it but people people I want to know if proximity can come to meet the sport. Yeah he's like he's like he's like yeah they train, they won't buy anybody right? They want to know where I was like yeah they are pretty trained, he was like yeah they do come in football uh football facility a lot in there, being there with like saddling them whenever she brings her dog uh to work and like they'll be just playing, he's like yeah they don't mess up nothing here in the football facility so like why not? Alright cool cool cool why not? So that happened and we say meet the Spartans and the the Spartans went so good. So well people would ask them like um people was just asking like when we go like see them again type of thing. And and I was like uh I don't know. And then I like uh somebody was like um what about what about senior day or something like that? And I had to think about like when this wind is senior day like you know I mean I have to figure that out and then uh like a couple weeks went by and that's I think when they when they had like said something else about senior day like when when you got to fill out when your parents who parents what parents is coming and like you got to figure out like the that was and stuff for parents because parents come in and Nigerian type of thing. Um And so they was asking everything and I asked coach t I was like uh yeah can I like bring my my dogs because you know, he already knew like both of my parents was already past. Like can I like bring my dogs maybe? Um If we try to figure that out. He's like uh he's I don't know, we gotta we gotta, you know, so I asked the lady to take care of the field, we gotta act or you know what I'm saying? The people that take care of the actual state of security, you know what I mean? Like it was further in there, we have to, we have to figure it out. And then like a couple of weeks later he was like it's like yeah, type of just basically yeah and I was like alright then alright cool cool. We got to figure it out so it got figured out and rocks and then ended up running out on the stage on the football field with us. So it was it was real fun, right? Yeah. You think that you think they were nervous? Was I nervous? No, no, they were the dogs. No, no no, no they've been on the field before. Like I said they were there weren't any of...

...those parties you run out there on the field but as far as like you can tell that just really just wanted to write, run and play, you know everything they just want to like especially when I started talking like I don't want it, I was like I'm crazy. But but yeah they was they was excited and like they they took it like a real good picture. Uh and I got it like hung up in the back literally right there and so yeah, I got a real good picture right there and you got like me literally looking right at the camera, you know how she figured out which camera they're looking at every weird, she looked right at that camera and then you got like a kind of picture like Roxy literally like looking up at me while we're running. So I was like, you know what I mean? It's like a moment where like she's looking at me like she's proud of me type of thing. It's funny. It's all funny. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty as a critical culture, especially for memories. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, definitely. And obviously 2020 was a bad year of Corona and all that. Um, and then I know you got to play in the spring, the spring league. So what, what was that like paymentspring League? Yeah, I only did it for two weeks, blessed enough to even do it for two weeks. Um like all right. When somebody like uh, I was like in connections with, he uh, he basically just reached out to the coach and um acts and I like I sent all my highlights whatever I needed to say. And I sent all that stuff in and for a while it took a took a little bit and then like we sent it again. Um, and then like he responded, I got his number, he called me on friday night and then at seven a.m. Saturday morning called again and said, pack your stuff being on sunday. Yeah, I was like cool. Got a flight, literally bought a flight as soon as we got off the phone. Um for available time it was and I got there and um uh for the last two weeks I literally literally just came in strong but I like then one book on Bs and around uh trying to, you know every special teams literally just going hard like because it went over the coaches like um liking and start to get on special teams then uh they like me at in practice for I. D. Be I was already cool. Uh it was like you can you can you can start, you can play, that's what I did. And so I got a lot of them in in two weeks, literally just two weeks and like it only took like a couple of days of preparation to get to that starting point. So I got a lot of plays uh we'll play against brian them, we beat them um and then like we play against the what was the last last team in that last team? They were blue got their name but we played against them too and uh there was a lot of people that I already kind of knew but I didn't know it was it was there because I met them at like National Scouting combines or you know what I'm saying? Just small little things we were doing, why everything was still like not available as far as like training camps and stuff. Winning. Yeah, yeah, for sure. What's your next like what's your goal for for football now man, just to get signed man practice team you no matter what it is man I just want to be be on somebody's football team you know what I mean? Like I play hard I practice or I go go extremely hard for anybody to practice squad. It doesn't matter. They need a good look or something. I'm there. Put me in. No I mean like my whole things bro like um to be able to just live out that dream especially when you see that it gets stripped away from you and how easy it can be stripped away from you. Um And you have no uh no actual choice over your life. You know I mean it would be different if I just gave up on football but literally a whole pandemic hit to where the council our product...

...three days before and already knew I was gonna do extremely well man, me and coach. Guest was practicing every single day on everything. And my times just looking real good like really really good. Um But they counseled it and I already knew like my predictions was to be even even like a camping by type of guy or something you know I mean I get that I was gonna get that chance of opportunity and I knew uh if I really got the chance of opportunity I was going to be signed to the team records. You know what I mean? Because you're going to see my work at this, they will see everything and I was like, they got counseled and then they have nothing for a whole year literally for a whole year. So a lot of us who got picked up, it was like immediately drop type of thing. I know a couple of us are are still on a on a team that they came out in my class, like come in a couple of literally just a couple though, it's not many and they cut down rosters I believe. Then they cut down rosters um in the early in the beginning, Yeah, they cut down rosters, they didn't have no tryouts. No, nothing. I was like right now, you know what I mean? And uh and at what now moment um that's why I was still in michigan because I was training, I was training in michigan uh and then like my least was starting to come up and it was just months after months, after months I'm asking my agent is there anything, is there any updates there, is there somewhere I can go? You know I mean? There was nothing, there's just nothing. And so I'm like, I'm not gonna sit around doing nothing, like I'm not getting paid to do nothing, you know what I mean? Like I'm not getting, I'm not getting faster money and I'm already graduated so like I still had to pay rent or wherever it may be. And so when, when, when my uh at least was coming up to an end, that's when I was like, I'm, I'm either gonna go back to texas when um, I don't even make texas because as an option to go back to, I was like, I'm just gonna network for these last couple of months before my lease is up. And uh, you know what I'm saying at my advisors or something like that. And they gave me a lot of, a lot of advice and already took the advice that we were learning through football itself from, from keeping it real Mondays. Um, and uh, I took that and apply that and just network and reach out to people in California. Uh, because I got, I got my Masters degree in media and information for film and he already knew like California Atlanta and new york was supposed to be for films and I was like, all right, cool. I met all my connections in California. I'm just going to move to California and that's what we got in the truck and we drove all the way to California. Mm approximately took took us, we, we stopped, we stopped, it took us like four days to keep their, so we stopped in like Minnesota and then we stopped in colorado. Then we stopped in Vegas and then it finished the rest of it on to uh California. So it's a long journey man. Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. All right out. Yeah, let's let's talk about josh Butler. I don't know what you want to call yourself because influence are usually people don't like, but entertainer, I'll call you. So let's talk about josh Butler entertainer. You do everything. Like I didn't even know at at one point I didn't know you sung and I was like, dude, you sing too. I was like this it's good. Mhm. So tell me, tell me about like how you got like kinda into everything and then like tell me about like tick tock and like blown up on there. That's where yeah, that's where the tv comes from because it's just entertainment, you know I mean because I do uh a lot of people don't know. I I do think one thing and the world is literally used for use used to people only doing solely one thing and being off. Um and it kind of makes it hard with the algorithms to because like yes, it may do like funny stuff and my dogs but didn't realize thing. He still play...

...football or then I can sing out nowhere. And people were like, wait a minute you got music too. And then I'll be in a tv show another time. I was like, wait a minute, like what is he doing? Like what is he doing? Um And I'm like, I'm like basically basically I'm just not trying to waste my talent. Like a lot of people have other talents and um they solely focused on one type of thing and for me I don't want to be limited in my life type of thing. Like I don't want to limit it to the ability that I can do if I know I can do an ability and I have that ability to do. So I'm going to do that. I'm not going to um I'm not going to just leave myself limitless and just forget about the stuff that I know how to do for what reason? Like I only get one life. Why not be able to use everything in that one life. Like I don't know. Right? So that's why I said I never wanted to be lifted a lot of doors that could open for every single path that I take and I make sure I put my time into each and everyone and like no matter if it's for, for social media. Um that's easy. I just do all the stuff off my phone, all my editing. Um it's not that hard to let me just grab a camera and record some stuff. But it's not, it's really not that hard. It's tedious. It's very irritating. But it's not hard to do. Especially if you, for this type of person for football. I just wake up in the mornings and do my workouts and just running my dogs or something. But it's not that it's not that deep to do. I just actually did a workout, not to longer earlier and we feel the record there too. So I got two birds in one stone. Uh Been for like music that's a little bit tougher. The music spot is a little bit tough because like writing you get writer's block writing songs and stuff so that's a little bit tougher. But as far as like singing practicing wise you just sing practices around the creative all the time and then um for acting and stuff you gotta stay stay on top of your emails. That's pretty much the only thing because I get emails you'll never you've got a lot of opportunities there and then like it's a lot of people that's in production that I know um I just just got to reach out to people just stop being so anti social because people don't know if you need work or not or whatever it may be. So I reach out like hey what you know what I'm saying? What are you all working on this this week or this month or something? Yeah but like we need uh we need we need this we need that. And are you available? I'm in there. I'm marketing. I'm saying we work all the time man. And then like um if I'm networking I'm gonna make sure I network with every single thing an opportunity that I have to do. So um like I'm learning about N. F. T. S. And stuff now. I just went yesterday yesterday I went to uh to the launch house and I was trying to learn more about that and basically large house, just big ass house with a bunch of smart people don't know about kryptos and stuff. So I went there trying to learn about that. It's very very hard. Like it's not that easy. People be saying like people people who are already and it's a it's easy but trying to get started, it's not that it's not it's not that easy, I'm kind of figured out, I don't even know if I like just buy something that like leave it in there to grow or deplete or whatever or some people like you got to check it every day type of thing and I'm like how do I know when to take it out? How do I know when I'm gonna get the money? And we were like I don't know but but yeah man it's it's just doing everything all at once. Uh It's also inspirational to uh younger generations, especially when I tell my family, but like you can't always be stick like stuck on one thing, you know what I mean? Like they're so limited and it's a whole world out here, it's literally a whole world that is so limited teaches Dallas texas and that's it right there in Dallas texas, they don't even want to go to another state or so gail along another country and...

...learn something new with ourselves, you know I mean like I'm trying to learn to join me in spanish already know sign language. I'm trying to do. I'm trying to learn all that stuff. It's like, you know what I mean? Like I got that chance of opportunity to do. So I'm going to take it. Yeah, yeah, definitely. And then you got, you got me thinking about like 33 points to three points. Like just one. Like I hate when people say in general, like you got to do only one thing. Like that's the most annoying thing ever. Uh, yeah. To uh, the emailing thing. Yeah, That's like the key to like everything. I think people sleep on emails and like, like I talked to a guy that he was trying to make a fitted hat the other day and he showed me and it was like, it was like a Washington nationals and I was like, all right, You can go to guys about it. Either hit up the Washington nationals or you could just make a alternate logo and it won't be like the Washington nationals mark because that's their trademark. Now. He's just like, you're telling me to hit up the Washington nationals. I'm like, yeah, you can find their email online. You can, you can hit them up. I don't know if they're gonna respond, but you can hit them up. Yeah, you can always reach out to people. So I always send my email out because I got like three, I got three emails I wanted for like just stuff I like order on amazon and that whatever that way that always mixed together. Um And then I have stuff that specifically just just for business slash I think so I use that email take that with the absolute most because it's exactly the ones I gave to like companies or something like that. Oh and then I have a better with my school email and sometimes I just used that one when remember. Yeah. Yeah and we crypto and investing, I would just say like just invest like a small amount just leave it there because I've done in the past where it was like 2017 and I looked at it when I just sold it because I like broke even or whatever and then like I look at it now and it could have been like a few $1000 and I'm just like damn. But like the same thing with like stock. You just you just gotta, I feel like you just in my this is my opinion, not an expert. You know how they say? But uh I would say just like leave it for like a while and just see did you check on it every day? That type of thing we just left now. I now I used to be like addicted but now I just like check it every once in a while because like even like for example in the crypto it just went it crashed like say like a month ago and I was like, damn. And I was like, no, I'm not going to do what I did in the past and cash out and lose a little bit of money. I'm just gonna wait. And now I went back up to like what it was so it was like whatever. Yeah, because you just got to wait even if it goes down. Yeah or like I could have bought more too. I was thinking about it. I was like uh wait. Yeah, I think it's just so long. I think it's a long term game especially with the crypto. But yeah or what about like what about like tic tac? Like when, when did you get on it? And like when like what was the video that like blew up? I know you had a lot of them, but like what was the first one? Um I got on it like right after I graduated. Um So that's when people still kind of like, you know me a little bit. Uh It also was after the The walk on the field with my dogs and step two. Um So I got on it and then like I posted a video, like the one that mainly went viral is like it's the same thing for me and watch me and write to me and I really do and she was like dressed up in her little uh watermelon suit and she's like, oh my bed. And I was like, I'm like, what are you looking at? Like, what are you looking at me like that? And, and she basically just like attacks me like pretty things to attack me type of thing. She's a puppy and like, to be honest with you, but I'll give you a little secret to it behind the scenes of it is all that, that part of his all playing. Like she literally stops after. I'm like, all right, we're good. Should just stop. I'm not sure you did get she little actors. Uh, but, but that was the first one. It was, but I didn't say my, my leg and, and those usually I would say, I say like my look like this...

...is funded by the day. That's what people, people be commented in that some of my videos and it's hilarious that stuff I actually like, uh, so it was one of those type of video that went viral first. And then, um, and then I started posting like football videos just so people actually knew who I was. And then, you know, it just went from there. I know now I know now you're posting dancing videos because you met with a bunch of different influencers. How is it just to connect with a whole bunch of people. We was, uh, uh, the wish house and uh, little Zant's crib. There was, you know, they be having like a lot of tic tac or influence or events okay. But then, and I ain't never doing all like dancing or nothing like that either, but they taught me because I said like, I'm not limited to, so nothing like somebody was willing to teach me something. I'm gonna learn that. Um, and I tell me, um, what was his name, judy to fly and young flick, they are dancing on Tiktok and um, they taught me to dance and uh, john paul two, you know, john uh, he was teaching me too because they knew how to do it and I think it, I think it is, um, ju ju be two flies dance. He was, he's the one who I think believe originally created it and he was teaching me how to do it. And it took me like 22 days or so to actually figure it out and learn exactly what it is. And I got, I end up getting it and now and now I do, I do it. And people was like, how do you do, how do you do what I learned in my body literally yesterday. Uh, I'm not the creator of the dangerous problem, but people, people like do it on the stairs or is there something like, yeah, That's funny. It's funny because like when you're just talking about like moving places, like, obviously I see all this stuff, but like, I can't like, I don't know what it's like, like when you guys were just like all there and like all the creators like I thought that was like nope. And uh but like I said like I don't know what it feels like I guess it's a but um but yeah and then going into the acting to you were in all american. Uh How is that to play a football player even though you're a football player? Yeah. Uh Yeah I did a lot of stuff besides all american too but that's probably like the biggest one that I was able to actually get into type of thing. Um But I mean it was cool like everybody was was cool. It's different with Covid because you gotta be careful like this since it is your life put your mask back on every time we're done we're not recording. It was literally tv if they were like all right go we'll do that as soon as we're done, take your mask out of whatever you got to put it off a little bit. But everybody was cool. I love the cast, literally love the cast. The directors was really really nice. Um The people game changer films who work for game changer films are really nice. They're really cool and just meeting the meeting the actual May actors which I've only met was with all the guys from all american. Uh The girls were in there you know you're going there when you need it tape of that. Uh But meeting them in person. Um it's really really cool. They were they were down to earth. They went like too boozy, like we'll talk to me, none of that. It was laughing in between cuts and stuff like that so but it was it was nice to be there. Um And just have that experience, like I said like now people to see it on netflix and stuff and be like yeah I know, I know john john right there type of thing. Yeah. So it's it's nice. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. What what advice would you give to a young kid? Uh either like trying to get like D1 scholarship or like trying to find their way in life. Yeah, I get...

...that. A lot of that question a lot. I'll try to answer as much as possible. But the part of the main main advice man is just one. Don't be discouraged because like your chance opportunity will come uh and to do not be afraid to reach out or talk to somebody. Uh Kids yourself out. Their social media is very powerful, especially nowadays. Um Like put your, put yourself out there, ask the coach, can you can make a highlight tape. Use huddle huddle has advanced a lot now. Since since 2014. I'll tell you that they got a whole community. They got everything. They got so much stuff on huddle. I've never even knew, I always used to huddle for uh for uh spring lee I'm like wait of neighbors when they huddle get like this use huddle use twitter, twitter is a big platform, especially for football because like a lot of coaches are on twitter and I can see that through twitter. Uh you know, I mean like sometimes even if I had my old account, like sometimes I literally just go and retweet somebody stuff because I was like looking for schools or offers or something. I just go randomly retweeted under like imagery football and stuff like following me or whatever it may be. But I mean that's just doing my part. A lot of people may see a lot of people may not see it. Um, but we're trying to do my part more portion, but all out on the field, especially if you, I want to see it, whatever is what you want to do. Just literally put your time and effort into that. If you think you can do better at certain certain thing, literally practice that until it's perfect and then, or to impeach your overtime or it's going to be a power lifter and or whatever it may be practice consistently practice the days, especially you don't want to do anything that was the most important days. You got to go the hardest because it's like sometimes you don't want to get out of bed, your body maybe. So you may not be feeling good, Your head might be heard, still have to do it because that one time with that one moment you miss out on you go back to hang, right, should have did it. You don't want to have that, I show the type of mindset? Uh, and they're like, I guess with life in general, whatever you want to pursue for, make sure you just do that. Like it's sometimes it's people that I think that's actually willing to help you chase your dreams. It's really, it really is. It's really a lot of people who I see somebody was inspirational or see somebody was actually working towards that dream and if you're actually working towards it, don't be afraid to reach out to somebody and be like, I'm doing this, I'm doing that. What else do I need to do or what else can I can I do in order to achieve that certain goal. Don't be afraid to reach out to people. Um, that's probably the most important part. Like believe it or not, we actually need one another even though some people suck or some people may may not help you, you know what I mean? Or some people, uh, just might be just playing on me. It's tough, but we need one another in order to succeed and that's the reality area. Yeah, definitely. Like all I liked all those answers are you ready for some lighter questions, some fun questions. Yeah, I know your a game or two. So versatile. What's your favorite game? What's your favorite game right now. Oh man. All right. I play a lot of scary games. Um it gets more attention from the audience. Uh Probably my favorite series that I've played of scary games was outlast Outplay Outlast 12. And there's a there's a like a mix of it in in in in bro man, I tell you, have you, have you jumping? Because I said like right here my teeth game on tv is right here and I'm not not too far away from the screen. And I got headphones are pretty good, like they're on there and I'm like okay...

...and it's like quiet and then I play at night, I'll make sure I'll play at night so everybody will be scared to. Uh and I play it on like extreme mode or something like that. So if I like die, I got literally we start all the way over from the minute the first time because I didn't know how long it's gonna take me to win or to get to the end, which is uh which is sad, but but that was my favorite series of games to play. But other than that I played like more and more strategic games like shooting slash fighting games. Um And then I have to be like of course Call of Duty is in there and uh I played dead by daylight for a lot and then like some eventually fun games that I've been playing recently. Um it takes two and somebody told me to get Resident Evil. I haven't got it yet but I do have an Xbox gift cards. I'm trying to use that. All right. Who is your favorite football player growing up? Devin? Hester. All right. Devin has and randy mosque. Of course. Mhm. Yeah. Everybody like offensive players growing up endless is like any dvds. What did you like mimic your game after? Which is like Darrelle revis champ bailey. Um Let's see brian Dawkins Ed Reed of course. Uh Troy Polamalu. You know I'm saying those those the ones our last last last one. Who's who's a Tiktoker that you want to clap with that? You haven't yet. Mm I'm going with football. I'm gonna go with Dockery. Alright josh, I appreciate you coming on. And could you let the listeners know where they can follow you at? Uh Yeah the listeners you can follow me at josh boiler tv and you can follow my dogs. Also is Roxy underscore remmy tv. They actually just got verified yesterday which is lit. But yeah that's our social media accounts there on all social media platforms and so am I. This episode has been brought to you by B. Usr dot com. Go check it out to get your free $100 bet when you deposit of $100 at B. U. S. R. Dot com slash paul quick.

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