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Josh Butler | Average To Savage EP136

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This is the one hundred and thirty-sixth episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring pro football player and entertainer Josh Butler. Paul Guarino talked with Josh Butler discussing his football career at Michigan State, working towards the NFL, and the entertainment side of his life such as him having over 1 million followers on Tiktok and acting in the hit show All American.

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This podcast interview with Josh Butler was originally recorded on August 25, 2021

...this is the average to Savage podcastwith paul Guerrino. Everyone in anyone athletes celebs andmuch more. Today's episode is brought to you by busr dot com. You know everyone always asks me where they should bet and now Igot a solution for them. The U. S. R. Dot com slash paul. You deposit $100they'll match your $100 in free bets. So you basically get $200. Go check itout, be usr dot com slash paul. What's up everybody? I'm back for anotherepisode. The Average Savage podcast. Our special guest today is josh Butlerjosh. How's it going? Good, I appreciate you coming on. Thanks forhaving me man, let's just go back in time a little bit. What's your firstmemory of playing football? It would have to be from from my little league.Uh my dad started um there on the league football team and I justremember watching my older brother play, he's three years older than me. So Iremember watching him play and like my grandma was always like screamingcalling his name and stuff like that. Um you know I go steve his name, Stevieor steve steven done Butler, he's a junior um and he shows like oh Steviego and I'm sitting there like day I want, you know what I'm saying,everybody want grandma love so I want to play football and that's why I kindof how I got into it. It was like inspired by my older brother to justyou know play football even though already kind of knew I was gonna bethrown in there. Um Just simply was a football family so so that's probablyone of my first memories um And just playing little league flag all the wayup now. Yeah that's dope. And then what about like when you were in high schoollike was there a point where you knew you were like better than the rest?Probably to my to be honest man it's probably took my senior year. Um Mysenior year was like like finishing my junior onto my senior. Yeah I kind oflike figured it out this when I was like getting really good with like puntreturn, kick returns. Um You know just overall defense. I've also played likecorner and safety so after I realized that and then like a lot of offersstart coming in. Um Like my first offer came in actuallywent around my sophomore year and it was from from north texas some U. N. T. That was that was myfirst offer I had and it was during the summer too so I got that one and thenlike texas a. And M came around. Um And then like about my when caesar camearound from my junior year, they all just came in but then like I didn'trealize how good I wasn't a coach, I would be like go Debbie you go you goback their kids to point returns or and I play defense. You know usuallymisspoke because the players don't get that opportunity to do so Yeah, for sure. And then like yeah,just tell me about, I know you grew up in texas so you gotta tell me about thelike the football culture down there because I know it's nuts out of coaches.No no no no no no. The culture of the culture, of the football culture. Theculture, I mean coaches are nuts too. But you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Ibelieve that. But the culture, I mean there's nothing but football man likeeverybody know texas is a football state and its year round it's reallyyear around. Um If you're not doing football we're running track. That'swhat we what we had to do. Um We eat sleep and breathe football literallyfootball every single day. It kept us out of trouble most of us at least. UmIn we always do summer training literally.Always we always had something that that was involved with football. Idon't think it was a single day we didn't do football even if it was coldoutside, you were in your sweats and stuff, you're going outside, can you gopractice doing something for a while And I don't realize how much weactually used to do stuff until like you know when you're done with it andyou look back at him, we didn't really catch a break as a kid like not reallyyou really constantly did football stuff even in the street, you know whatI mean? Like it was always something football. Yeah yeah for sure. And thenyeah just going back to your like what...

...was your recruiting process like? Likehow like what was it like hard was it? Did you like it? Did you enjoy it? Ohyeah I like it. Um uh Like the coach and stuff was cool to me like one andgot me out of classes sometimes. Uh you know some of the times the coaches willcome and visit and they asked for certain students or whatever. I wouldget a call and then my coach coach called my teachers like jobs there andcall me and I just go there and all that. I'll be right happy as him uhgoing down to the office but there was there was real cool. Um And then noneof them really like you know what I'm saying be type be weird or anything youknow And I made my decision based off like what I felt was best for me and it wasfor me you know? Yeah what was like your final like three schools? Uh Miami I wanted to go to my that wasmy goal and my dream school. Um and I got their offer and everything to uhthat just simply offer you know the early 2000s class was like reading themyou know what I mean? And they're like devin hester he was very inspirationalto me to try to go to Miami to uh So Miami Michigan state Uh and then my 3rd1 was U. C. L. A. All right. So then, alright so then how did you pickMichigan stay over your your dream school? Uh like they were going throughsome stuff back in 2014, I think that something with like the head coaching,their position coach or something like that. Uh there was some some stuffgoing on then. So and then that program was like yeah. Um And then like Ilooked into Mhm U. C. L. A. And then I would go into Michigan state and Ioriginally wanted to major and forensic science. Okay. Um That was my original,this was originally wanted to do and I looked into it and Michigan state atthe time was like number four in the country for forensic. Sounds like Nolike cool. Alright cool. And I looked deeper into it deeper into the footballthat was winning every year like from like 2013, And then we end up making the playoffsin 2015 the same year I end up going. Um so that's what and then like Ivisited I took that bus ride up after I took that bus ride. I was like yeahthere's gonna have to be the school for me because like I'm not in the way it'sgonna take me two days to get all the way up to a school and then like, I'm not picked at school type of thing,you know? So, uh and I wanted to get out of texas. So I don't know if younotice, like I said, all types of schools that was not in texas, I wantto get as far away from it as possible ah, simply because like, uh, theenvironment and then like, I didn't want to be close enough to always comeback home because there's always some stuff back home. Yeah, definitely. What,what, like, you know, most, well, I didn't say most like, some players arejust like there for football, but you just said like you picked it becauselike, the major, like, what what gave you that like intuition basically. I mean, I'm I'm a kind of a nerve to behonest. Like, uh, I was always into academics or into the school orsomething like that. Then already knew like what I wanted to do after footballbecause, you know, football doesn't last forever, the more you age orwhatever it may be. We understood that part of it as kids. Um, so it was kindof like already instilled in us to know like, what do you want to do afterfootball type of thing and all right, I'm all right. You know what I'm gooduh, now with football, you know what I'm gonna keep working hard, keep doingall that stuff too. That's that's not a problem. But you also got to realizelike what do you want to do afterwards because like, I'm in that mode. I meanthat mommy right now, like what I what I want to do after the side, I alreadygot it kind of figured out anyway. Um...

So uh but yeah, just that's that's kindof why Gotcha. And then what was your overallexperience, like michigan state like on and off the field? Um Alright was, yeah, you're making meyou're making me think right now. Yeah, man, because I've been through a lot ofstuff, especially going there. So for me, my experiences was kind of up anddown um just being in the first of all, adjusting to a new environment. Likemichigan the state in general is kinda like it either always raining on, it'salways no, I mean, don't get too much sunshine all the time, especiallycoming from texas. I'm besides you're going somewhere, go on doing that. So that the state waskind of depressing itself, but I can't say like the people made it a lotbetter um for me simply because like I met people there while bond withforever, that's from coaches, that some players um that's from like normalpeople, we call an rpc nonathletic regular people. Um Yeah, I mean, I'm alot, a lot, a lot of uh and our friends and they made school a little bitbetter for you, not only because they were like there for you or they werelike, understand, especially when I was going through the person stage of whatI was going through. Um, just literally just talking to people like opening upand you're not knowing that they feel that certain way too and you connect ona certain level now. Um, and then with football, the support from footballthat I was receiving from not just fans and everything to everybody wanted tosee me, um, do really, really good. And like there was always supportive sayinglike, you know, that was sometimes when you lose games or you mess up on aplayer. So that's, that's normal. You always get backlash and like this guysucks or whatever, but that's normal. You want tackle number, You know, I maynot, may not play straight on the road. You missed one target. He's got his ass.Okay. Anyway. Anyway. But yeah, man, it's, uh, I'll say my overall,especially towards the end was was really, really great. Um, just the, uh,overall with persevering through everything. The support, uh, theSpartan love, like the, the anywhere I go anytime I walk from michigan stateor something like that. It's always somebody that either went to the schoola long time ago or something or just like recently about to go to the schoolor something like that. They always recognized michigan state. That'sliterally every word that I've been and people will literally be like, allright. You know what I'm saying? I got you now, you already know you're partof the family. I don't really know. You know, you I know you went to the school,so you're part of the family type of thing. It's yeah, it's deep, I don'tknow, it was that deep into like, I liked left school and it's like a wholebunch of Spartans that's out in the l A whole bunch of pardons is in texas umpretty like I said anywhere that I go, there's a lot of Spartans. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I think a lot ofpeople, I mean because like 18, you know, I don't think people realize thatbecause I don't you just don't know that. But like, yeah, they're likealumni connection where you go, it's kind of like important in that aspectof like, because it could be when you're at one of the big schools, likea lot of people, there's a lot of people everywhere. Um And then justgoing, just tell me about like, how how do you get both your dog's Roxy, Roxyand Ronnie Mhm Rock scene. Um They both came from uh one of my bestfriends is Gary and Clemens, he his his family, his family's dog was likehaving puppies. Um and I was like looking for homes for for the dog,right? And I think It was a litter of like kind oflike four or 3 or so,...

...because I know I got one, then he andhis sister got went and then um his other sister got the other dogs, andthen like the rest, I don't know what well they do it, But uh but yeah, I gotroxy first roxy for now. Um I got her actually right after the Michigan gamethat we beat them in 2010, right, literally, right after that game thenext day, I got roxy uh and that's how she came into my life because like theywas literally just trying to find homes for their like dogs because they wereit was really unexpected, like they had puppies or whatever, they weren'ttelling them that it was literally looking for homes, or So I got acompletely free and like he asked, he was like asked, he was literally askingeverybody around, he's like we're trying to find homes for for thesepuppies or whatever, and I was like don't do nothing. And so I was like,I'm like literally, I don't I don't know, I don't party, I don't smoke, Idon't drink, I don't, you know, I mean I don't do none of that. Uh And I waslike liberal to dog, it's gonna be, you know, saying I take a dog, it's likehe's like cool you for real, I'm so serious and I was like what type of dog,you know I mean? It's like it's like a boxing pit mix, it's the dad, that'sthe mom and that's what the dog looked like. I was like I cool it's like whatyou gonna name her? I'm like I don't know if we're gonna figure it out whenI like see her and I got it. I was like nema roxy I don't know where it camefrom. We just Roxy so I got her and uh it's just beenme and her for for a couple of years and then um the main reason why I waslooking into getting another dog was literally because like I didn't Ididn't have that much time to like take care of roxy meaning like I started Ijust started like my masters for one, the football was getting like reallyintense is close to my senior year. You know what you are saying you got to beyour best to Mhm. I'm putting in extra work in football. Um And so I'm likeall right, I'm looking at right over all right, it's sometimes I can't evengo out and take long walks like we used to or something maybe. And I was likeI'm looking to get another dog so simply so they can like play with eachother throughout the day or whatever. So I'm looking up animal sheltersthat's nearby. So the national humane society that's in michigan there. Theyactually follow me on instagram. They're they're pretty cool. I would gothere a lot. Um We took our first, we took our first christmas pitchesactually there before um So always like go and check to see if they got likemore dogs or something. Um I was looking into it and like some dogs arelike already about to get picked up or about to leave or something like thator um Some dogs wasn't we're not like I guess bonding with other animals theyhave to be like solo type of dogs. Alright Roxanne, what are we gonna do?What we're gonna do something like introduce some of the other dogs, isthat the shelters or something to see if they like bond or whatever it may be.And then like sometimes they're like oh yeah this dog just got adopted orsomething like that and so I just put it out publicly, it was like anybodyknow where I can like adopt another another dog. You know my homeboy againhit me up. It was like probably won't believe it but they're having more puppies and I waslike I was like you kid you gotta be kidding me, you literally got to bekidding. It was like for weeks, for weeks I was looking for other dogs likeuntil I like put it out there that's when he might respond. It's like yeahthey haven't more puppies and uh like this is the litter and like they had awhole bunch of them, there's a whole bunch of them This time around, I waslike no what I take one um not take another girl uh, you know the girl dogand that's uh, that's how I got ready and I asked the people on instagramlike what should I name the new dog And it was, it was out of Bella Remy withthe eye and, and somebody said name or foxy. I was like, that's too just toclose, I take that out on two names...

Bella and Remy and then like I put it apoll up like what, what should I name her? And a lot of people say agreementsare like cool, rainy it is and that's how I ended up getting rocks him in meand as well the rest is history. You already know the story on that. Yeah,So there, so they are technically sisters. They are. Yeah, that's the uh,yeah. Then tell me about just like walking out with them like your seniorday because I know that was like, like pretty much like when you went viraland stuff like that, that's, that's how I found a value. Yeah, that's a lot ofpeople figure out this story. Um, basically when I was, it was startedsummer to be honest because I asked for the meet the Spartans. Um, and like atthe meet the Spartans. All right. You got to catch coach deepin a good move first and foremost. You got to catch him in a good mood becauseyou don't catch him in a good move. Everything is gonna be a no so you haveto catch him in a good move and I was like on twitter before they suspendedmy account for no reason, I got to get that back. That's ridiculous man. Um ontwitter I was like asking around you know I'm saying joking around and likeyou know people already kind of knew I had dogs type of thing like that wasalready knowing that I had dogs before. Like the story like the big big stagewhatever came out but somebody like mentioned they were like uh they'relike rocks and then we're going to be at the meet the Spartans in our timeand act like coach d but I don't think he said nothing at that time. So Iasked him in person while he was in a good move. I was like a coach. I don'tknow if you've seen it but people people I want to know if proximity cancome to meet the sport. Yeah he's like he's like he's like yeah they train,they won't buy anybody right? They want to know where I was like yeah they arepretty trained, he was like yeah they do come in football uh footballfacility a lot in there, being there with like saddling them whenever shebrings her dog uh to work and like they'll be just playing, he's like yeahthey don't mess up nothing here in the football facility so like why not?Alright cool cool cool why not? So that happened and we say meet the Spartansand the the Spartans went so good. So well people would ask them like umpeople was just asking like when we go like see them again type of thing. Andand I was like uh I don't know. And then I like uh somebody was like umwhat about what about senior day or something like that? And I had to thinkabout like when this wind is senior day like you know I mean I have to figurethat out and then uh like a couple weeks went by and that's I think whenthey when they had like said something else about senior day like when whenyou got to fill out when your parents who parents what parents is coming andlike you got to figure out like the that was and stuff for parents becauseparents come in and Nigerian type of thing. Um And so they was askingeverything and I asked coach t I was like uh yeah can I like bring my mydogs because you know, he already knew like both of my parents was alreadypast. Like can I like bring my dogs maybe? Um If we try to figure that out.He's like uh he's I don't know, we gotta we gotta, you know, so I askedthe lady to take care of the field, we gotta act or you know what I'm saying?The people that take care of the actual state of security, you know what I mean?Like it was further in there, we have to, we have to figure it out. And thenlike a couple of weeks later he was like it's like yeah, type of justbasically yeah and I was like alright then alright cool cool. We gotto figure it out so it got figured out and rocks and then ended up running outon the stage on the football field with us. So it was it was real fun, right?Yeah. You think that you think they were nervous? Was I nervous? No, no,they were the dogs. No, no no, no they've been on the field before. LikeI said they were there weren't any of...

...those parties you run out there on thefield but as far as like you can tell that just really just wanted to write,run and play, you know everything they just want to like especially when Istarted talking like I don't want it, I was like I'm crazy. But but yeah theywas they was excited and like they they took it like a real good picture. Uhand I got it like hung up in the back literally right there and so yeah, Igot a real good picture right there and you got like me literally looking rightat the camera, you know how she figured out which camera they're looking atevery weird, she looked right at that camera and then you got like a kind ofpicture like Roxy literally like looking up at me while we're running.So I was like, you know what I mean? It's like a moment where like she'slooking at me like she's proud of me type of thing. It's funny. It's allfunny. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty as a critical culture, especially formemories. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, definitely. And obviously 2020 was a bad year ofCorona and all that. Um, and then I know you got to play in the spring, thespring league. So what, what was that like paymentspring League? Yeah, I onlydid it for two weeks, blessed enough to even do it for two weeks. Um like allright. When somebody like uh, I was like in connections with, he uh, hebasically just reached out to the coach and um acts and I like I sent all myhighlights whatever I needed to say. And I sent all that stuff in and for a while it took a took a little bitand then like we sent it again. Um, and then like he responded, I got hisnumber, he called me on friday night and then at seven a.m. Saturday morningcalled again and said, pack your stuff being on sunday. Yeah, I was like cool.Got a flight, literally bought a flight as soon as we got off the phone. Um foravailable time it was and I got there and um uh for the last two weeks Iliterally literally just came in strong but I like then one book on Bs andaround uh trying to, you know every special teams literally just going hardlike because it went over the coaches like um liking and start to get on specialteams then uh they like me at in practice for I. D. Be I was alreadycool. Uh it was like you can you can you can start, you can play, that'swhat I did. And so I got a lot of them in in two weeks, literally just twoweeks and like it only took like a couple of days of preparation to get tothat starting point. So I got a lot of plays uh we'll play against brian them,we beat them um and then like we play against the what was the last last teamin that last team? They were blue got their name but we played against themtoo and uh there was a lot of people that I already kind of knew but Ididn't know it was it was there because I met them at like National Scoutingcombines or you know what I'm saying? Just small little things we were doing,why everything was still like not available as far as like training campsand stuff. Winning. Yeah, yeah, for sure. What's your next likewhat's your goal for for football now man, just to get signed man practiceteam you no matter what it is man I just want to be be on somebody'sfootball team you know what I mean? Like I play hard I practice or I go goextremely hard for anybody to practice squad. It doesn't matter. They need agood look or something. I'm there. Put me in. No I mean like my whole thingsbro like um to be able to just live out that dream especially when you see thatit gets stripped away from you and how easy it can be stripped away from you.Um And you have no uh no actual choice over your life. You know I mean itwould be different if I just gave up on football but literally a whole pandemichit to where the council our product...

...three days before and already knew Iwas gonna do extremely well man, me and coach. Guest was practicing everysingle day on everything. And my times just looking real good like reallyreally good. Um But they counseled it and I already knew like my predictionswas to be even even like a camping by type of guy or something you know Imean I get that I was gonna get that chance of opportunity and I knew uh ifI really got the chance of opportunity I was going to be signed to the teamrecords. You know what I mean? Because you're going to see my work at this,they will see everything and I was like, they got counseled and then they havenothing for a whole year literally for a whole year. So a lot of us who gotpicked up, it was like immediately drop type of thing. I know a couple of usare are still on a on a team that they came out in my class, like come in acouple of literally just a couple though, it's not many and they cut downrosters I believe. Then they cut down rosters um in the early in thebeginning, Yeah, they cut down rosters, they didn't have no tryouts. No,nothing. I was like right now, you know what I mean? And uh and at what nowmoment um that's why I was still in michigan because I was training, I wastraining in michigan uh and then like my least was starting to come up and itwas just months after months, after months I'm asking my agent is thereanything, is there any updates there, is there somewhere I can go? You know I mean? There was nothing,there's just nothing. And so I'm like, I'm not gonna sit around doing nothing,like I'm not getting paid to do nothing, you know what I mean? Like I'm notgetting, I'm not getting faster money and I'm already graduated so like Istill had to pay rent or wherever it may be. And so when, when, when my uhat least was coming up to an end, that's when I was like, I'm, I'm eithergonna go back to texas when um, I don't even make texas because as an option togo back to, I was like, I'm just gonna network for these last couple of monthsbefore my lease is up. And uh, you know what I'm saying at my advisors orsomething like that. And they gave me a lot of, a lot of advice and alreadytook the advice that we were learning through football itself from, fromkeeping it real Mondays. Um, and uh, I took that and apply that and justnetwork and reach out to people in California. Uh, because I got, I got myMasters degree in media and information for film and he already knew likeCalifornia Atlanta and new york was supposed to be for films and I was like,all right, cool. I met all my connections in California. I'm justgoing to move to California and that's what we got in the truck and we droveall the way to California. Mm approximately took took us, we, westopped, we stopped, it took us like four days to keep their, so we stoppedin like Minnesota and then we stopped in colorado. Then we stopped in Vegasand then it finished the rest of it on to uh California. So it's a long journey man. Yeah, yeah,that's crazy. All right out. Yeah, let's let's talk about josh Butler. Idon't know what you want to call yourself because influence are usuallypeople don't like, but entertainer, I'll call you. So let's talk about joshButler entertainer. You do everything. Like I didn't even know at at one pointI didn't know you sung and I was like, dude, you sing too. I was like thisit's good. Mhm. So tell me, tell me about like how you got like kinda intoeverything and then like tell me about like tick tock and like blown up onthere. That's where yeah, that's where the tv comes from because it's justentertainment, you know I mean because I do uh a lot of people don't know. I Ido think one thing and the world is literally used for use used to peopleonly doing solely one thing and being off. Um and it kind of makes it hardwith the algorithms to because like yes, it may do like funny stuff and my dogsbut didn't realize thing. He still play...

...football or then I can sing out nowhere.And people were like, wait a minute you got music too. And then I'll be in a tvshow another time. I was like, wait a minute, like what is he doing? Likewhat is he doing? Um And I'm like, I'm like basically basically I'm just nottrying to waste my talent. Like a lot of people have other talents and umthey solely focused on one type of thing and for me I don't want to belimited in my life type of thing. Like I don't want to limit it to the abilitythat I can do if I know I can do an ability and I have that ability to do.So I'm going to do that. I'm not going to um I'm not going to just leavemyself limitless and just forget about the stuff that I know how to do for what reason? Like I only get onelife. Why not be able to use everything in that one life. Like I don't know.Right? So that's why I said I never wanted to be lifted a lot of doors thatcould open for every single path that I take and I make sure I put my time intoeach and everyone and like no matter if it's for, for social media. Um that'seasy. I just do all the stuff off my phone, all my editing. Um it's not thathard to let me just grab a camera and record some stuff. But it's not, it'sreally not that hard. It's tedious. It's very irritating. But it's not hardto do. Especially if you, for this type of person for football. I just wake upin the mornings and do my workouts and just running my dogs or something. Butit's not that it's not that deep to do. I just actually did a workout, not tolonger earlier and we feel the record there too. So I got two birds in onestone. Uh Been for like music that's a little bit tougher. The music spot is alittle bit tough because like writing you get writer's block writing songsand stuff so that's a little bit tougher. But as far as like singingpracticing wise you just sing practices around the creative all the time andthen um for acting and stuff you gotta stay stay on top of your emails. That'spretty much the only thing because I get emails you'll never you've got alot of opportunities there and then like it's a lot of people that's inproduction that I know um I just just got to reach out to people just stopbeing so anti social because people don't know if you need work or not orwhatever it may be. So I reach out like hey what you know what I'm saying? Whatare you all working on this this week or this month or something? Yeah but like we need uh we need weneed this we need that. And are you available? I'm in there. I'm marketing.I'm saying we work all the time man. And then like um if I'm networking I'mgonna make sure I network with every single thing an opportunity that I haveto do. So um like I'm learning about N. F. T. S. And stuff now. I just wentyesterday yesterday I went to uh to the launch house and I was trying to learnmore about that and basically large house, just big ass house with a bunchof smart people don't know about kryptos and stuff. So I went theretrying to learn about that. It's very very hard. Like it's not that easy.People be saying like people people who are already and it's a it's easy buttrying to get started, it's not that it's not it's not that easy, I'm kindof figured out, I don't even know if I like just buy something that like leaveit in there to grow or deplete or whatever or some people like you got tocheck it every day type of thing and I'm like how do I know when to take itout? How do I know when I'm gonna get the money? And we were like I don'tknow but but yeah man it's it's just doing everything all at once. Uh It'salso inspirational to uh younger generations, especially when I tell myfamily, but like you can't always be stick like stuck on one thing, you knowwhat I mean? Like they're so limited and it's a whole world out here, it'sliterally a whole world that is so limited teaches Dallas texas and that'sit right there in Dallas texas, they don't even want to go to another stateor so gail along another country and...

...learn something new with ourselves, youknow I mean like I'm trying to learn to join me in spanish already know signlanguage. I'm trying to do. I'm trying to learn all that stuff. It's like, youknow what I mean? Like I got that chance of opportunity to do. So I'mgoing to take it. Yeah, yeah, definitely. And then you got, you gotme thinking about like 33 points to three points. Like just one. Like Ihate when people say in general, like you got to do only one thing. Likethat's the most annoying thing ever. Uh, yeah. To uh, the emailing thing. Yeah,That's like the key to like everything. I think people sleep on emails and like,like I talked to a guy that he was trying to make a fitted hat the otherday and he showed me and it was like, it was like a Washington nationals andI was like, all right, You can go to guys about it. Either hit up theWashington nationals or you could just make a alternate logo and it won't belike the Washington nationals mark because that's their trademark. Now.He's just like, you're telling me to hit up the Washington nationals. I'mlike, yeah, you can find their email online. You can, you can hit them up. Idon't know if they're gonna respond, but you can hit them up. Yeah, you canalways reach out to people. So I always send my email out because I got likethree, I got three emails I wanted for like just stuff I like order on amazonand that whatever that way that always mixed together. Um And then I havestuff that specifically just just for business slash I think so I use thatemail take that with the absolute most because it's exactly the ones I gave tolike companies or something like that. Oh and then I have a better with myschool email and sometimes I just used that one when remember. Yeah. Yeah andwe crypto and investing, I would just say like just invest like a smallamount just leave it there because I've done in the past where it was like 2017and I looked at it when I just sold it because I like broke even or whateverand then like I look at it now and it could have been like a few $1000 andI'm just like damn. But like the same thing with like stock. You just youjust gotta, I feel like you just in my this is my opinion, not an expert. Youknow how they say? But uh I would say just like leave it for like a while andjust see did you check on it every day? That type of thing we just left now. Inow I used to be like addicted but now I just like check it every once in awhile because like even like for example in the crypto it just went itcrashed like say like a month ago and I was like, damn. And I was like, no, I'mnot going to do what I did in the past and cash out and lose a little bit ofmoney. I'm just gonna wait. And now I went back up to like what it was so itwas like whatever. Yeah, because you just got to wait even if it goes down.Yeah or like I could have bought more too. I was thinking about it. I waslike uh wait. Yeah, I think it's just so long. Ithink it's a long term game especially with the crypto. But yeah or what aboutlike what about like tic tac? Like when, when did you get on it? And like whenlike what was the video that like blew up? I know you had a lot of them, but likewhat was the first one? Um I got on it like right after I graduated. Um Sothat's when people still kind of like, you know me a little bit. Uh It alsowas after the The walk on the field with my dogs andstep two. Um So I got on it and then like I posted a video, like the onethat mainly went viral is like it's the same thing for me and watch me andwrite to me and I really do and she was like dressed up in her little uhwatermelon suit and she's like, oh my bed. And I was like, I'm like, what areyou looking at? Like, what are you looking at me like that? And, and shebasically just like attacks me like pretty things to attack me type ofthing. She's a puppy and like, to be honest with you, but I'll give you alittle secret to it behind the scenes of it is all that, that part of his allplaying. Like she literally stops after. I'm like, all right, we're good. Shouldjust stop. I'm not sure you did get she little actors. Uh, but, but that wasthe first one. It was, but I didn't say my, my leg and, and those usually Iwould say, I say like my look like this...

...is funded by the day. That's whatpeople, people be commented in that some of my videos and it's hilariousthat stuff I actually like, uh, so it was one of those type of video thatwent viral first. And then, um, and then I started posting likefootball videos just so people actually knew who I was. And then, you know, itjust went from there. I know now I know now you're posting dancing videosbecause you met with a bunch of different influencers. How is it justto connect with a whole bunch of people. We was, uh, uh, the wish house and uh,little Zant's crib. There was, you know, they be having like a lot of tic tac orinfluence or events okay. But then, and I ain't never doing all like dancing ornothing like that either, but they taught me because I said like, I'm notlimited to, so nothing like somebody was willing to teach me something. I'mgonna learn that. Um, and I tell me, um, what was his name, judy to fly andyoung flick, they are dancing on Tiktok and um, they taught me to dance and uh,john paul two, you know, john uh, he was teaching me too because they knewhow to do it and I think it, I think it is, um, ju ju be two flies dance. Hewas, he's the one who I think believe originally created it and he wasteaching me how to do it. And it took me like 22 days or so to actuallyfigure it out and learn exactly what it is. And I got, I end up getting it andnow and now I do, I do it. And people was like, how do you do, how do you dowhat I learned in my body literally yesterday. Uh, I'm not the creator ofthe dangerous problem, but people, people like do it on the stairs or isthere something like, yeah, That's funny. It's funny becauselike when you're just talking about like moving places, like, obviously Isee all this stuff, but like, I can't like, I don't know what it's like, likewhen you guys were just like all there and like all the creators like Ithought that was like nope. And uh but like I said like I don't know what itfeels like I guess it's a but um but yeah and then going into the acting toyou were in all american. Uh How is that to play a football player eventhough you're a football player? Yeah. Uh Yeah I did a lot of stuff besidesall american too but that's probably like the biggest one that I was able toactually get into type of thing. Um But I mean it was cool like everybody waswas cool. It's different with Covid because you gotta be careful like thissince it is your life put your mask back on every time we're done we're notrecording. It was literally tv if they were like all right go we'll do that assoon as we're done, take your mask out of whatever you got to put it off alittle bit. But everybody was cool. I love the cast, literally love the cast.The directors was really really nice. Um The people game changer films whowork for game changer films are really nice. They're really cool and justmeeting the meeting the actual May actors which I've only met was with allthe guys from all american. Uh The girls were in there you know you'regoing there when you need it tape of that. Uh But meeting them in person. Umit's really really cool. They were they were down to earth. They went like tooboozy, like we'll talk to me, none of that. It was laughing in between cutsand stuff like that so but it was it was nice to be there. Um And just havethat experience, like I said like now people to see it on netflix and stuffand be like yeah I know, I know john john right there type of thing. Yeah.So it's it's nice. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. What what advice would you give to ayoung kid? Uh either like trying to get like D1 scholarship or like trying tofind their way in life. Yeah, I get...

...that. A lot of that question a lot.I'll try to answer as much as possible. But the part of the main main adviceman is just one. Don't be discouraged because like your chance opportunitywill come uh and to do not be afraid to reach out or talk to somebody. Uh Kidsyourself out. Their social media is very powerful, especially nowadays. UmLike put your, put yourself out there, ask the coach, can you can make ahighlight tape. Use huddle huddle has advanced a lot now. Since since 2014.I'll tell you that they got a whole community. They got everything. Theygot so much stuff on huddle. I've never even knew, I always used to huddle foruh for uh spring lee I'm like wait of neighbors when they huddle get likethis use huddle use twitter, twitter is a big platform, especially for footballbecause like a lot of coaches are on twitter and I can see that throughtwitter. Uh you know, I mean like sometimes even if I had my old account,like sometimes I literally just go and retweet somebody stuff because I waslike looking for schools or offers or something. I just go randomly retweetedunder like imagery football and stuff like following me or whatever it may be.But I mean that's just doing my part. A lot of people may see a lot of peoplemay not see it. Um, but we're trying to do my part more portion, but all out onthe field, especially if you, I want to see it, whatever is what you want to do.Just literally put your time and effort into that. If you think you can dobetter at certain certain thing, literally practice that until it'sperfect and then, or to impeach your overtime or it's going to be a powerlifter and or whatever it may be practice consistently practice the days,especially you don't want to do anything that was the most importantdays. You got to go the hardest because it's like sometimes you don't want toget out of bed, your body maybe. So you may not be feeling good, Your headmight be heard, still have to do it because that one time with that onemoment you miss out on you go back to hang, right, should have did it. Youdon't want to have that, I show the type of mindset? Uh, and they're like,I guess with life in general, whatever you want to pursue for, make sure youjust do that. Like it's sometimes it's people that I think that's actuallywilling to help you chase your dreams. It's really, it really is. It's reallya lot of people who I see somebody was inspirational or see somebody wasactually working towards that dream and if you're actually working towards it,don't be afraid to reach out to somebody and be like, I'm doing this,I'm doing that. What else do I need to do or what else can I can I do in orderto achieve that certain goal. Don't be afraid to reach out to people. Um,that's probably the most important part. Like believe it or not, we actuallyneed one another even though some people suck or some people may may nothelp you, you know what I mean? Or some people, uh, just might be just playing on me. It'stough, but we need one another in order to succeed and that's the reality area. Yeah, definitely. Like all I liked allthose answers are you ready for some lighter questions, some fun questions.Yeah, I know your a game or two. So versatile. What's your favorite game?What's your favorite game right now. Oh man. All right. I play a lot of scarygames. Um it gets more attention from the audience. Uh Probably my favoriteseries that I've played of scary games was outlast Outplay Outlast 12. And there's a there's a like a mix of it inin in in bro man, I tell you, have you, have you jumping? Because I said likeright here my teeth game on tv is right here and I'm not not too far away fromthe screen. And I got headphones are pretty good, likethey're on there and I'm like okay...

...and it's like quiet and then I play atnight, I'll make sure I'll play at night so everybody will be scared to.Uh and I play it on like extreme mode or something like that. So if I likedie, I got literally we start all the way over from the minute the first timebecause I didn't know how long it's gonna take me to win or to get to theend, which is uh which is sad, but but that was my favorite series of games toplay. But other than that I played like more and more strategic games likeshooting slash fighting games. Um And then I have to be like of course Callof Duty is in there and uh I played dead by daylight for a lot and thenlike some eventually fun games that I've been playing recently. Um it takestwo and somebody told me to get Resident Evil.I haven't got it yet but I do have an Xbox gift cards. I'm trying to use that.All right. Who is your favorite football player growing up? Devin? Hester. All right. Devin has and randy mosque.Of course. Mhm. Yeah. Everybody like offensive players growing up endless islike any dvds. What did you like mimic your game after?Which is like Darrelle revis champ bailey. Um Let's see brian Dawkins Ed Reed ofcourse. Uh Troy Polamalu. You know I'm sayingthose those the ones our last last last one. Who's who's aTiktoker that you want to clap with that? You haven't yet. Mm I'm going with football. I'm gonna gowith Dockery. Alright josh, I appreciate you coming on. And could youlet the listeners know where they can follow you at? Uh Yeah the listenersyou can follow me at josh boiler tv and you can follow my dogs. Also is Roxyunderscore remmy tv. They actually just got verified yesterday which is lit.But yeah that's our social media accounts there on all social mediaplatforms and so am I. This episode has been brought to you by B. Usr dot com.Go check it out to get your free $100 bet when you deposit of $100 at B. U. S.R. Dot com slash paul quick.

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