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Josh Johnson | Average To Savage EP118

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This is the one hundred and eighteenth episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring NFL quarterback Josh Johnson. Paul Guarino talked with Josh Johnson discussing his journey in the NFL, playing in other leagues like the XFL, and his business portfolio.

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This podcast interview with Josh Johnson was originally recorded on February 8, 2021

...this'll is the average to savagepodcast with Paul Guerrino. Everyone in anyone athletes, celebs andmuch more. What's up, everybody? I'm back for another episode of the averagesavage podcast or special guest today is Josh Johnson. Josh, how's it going?Going Good, big dog. Thanks for having me. How you doing? Hey, I'm doing good.Appreciate you coming on. I know. We've been working on it for a while. I wastrying to get you back in the XFL days and then, you know, all that gotscrambled. So but now you're back. I know you just signed with the 40 Ninersrecently. How does that feel? I feels good, Uh, been on the team withhis organization Thio Times, at other times in my career, Uh, got picked up aweek, like at halfway through the season. Basically. But I was on thepractice squad. Uh, I was able to do something, showing really What? I'm atthis point in my career enough to get him the one bringing back for anotheryear. So I'm just looking. I'm excited about it and just getting the processgoing. Yeah, So I know you've been on a lot of teams. What is it like when yougo back to a team that you're already with? Um, it's It's more comfortable, I'lltell you that. You know? No. You know the familiar faces in the building thatstill stuck around, um, just comfortable with the organization,understanding expectations and things that you you know what what they expectevery day that you come to work. And then But then they still knew becausethere's obviously a lot of turnover. That's probably that's why. So you justyou know, you deal, you get the familiar with the new faces and thenjust get back to work. I mean, football is football and just get in the processof learning, learning what's expected to you, and then meet thoseexpectations daily and then exceed them. Yeah, for sure. And if I if I did myresearch correct. You grew up a 40 Niners fan, right? Yeah, there's 100%correct. 3, 90 miles die hard. Being from Oakland to it was, uh it was kindof like the black, you know, black people, because everybody in my familywere Raider fans. But it was It was...

...pretty easy for me when I was born, youknow, the Raiders were in l A. And then you went from Yeah, Joe Montana. Andyou have Steve Young being a quarterback myself. I just looked up towhat those guys did. So it was easy for me to be a Niner fan. And really,there's always had a passion for organization. Obviously, once youbecome a product, kinda, you know, it gets a little tricky because the simplefact that you're on these other teams, but now But when you when I'm actuallywearing this red and go, it's very fitting. Yeah, yeah, that's that'sawesome. Uh, now just going back in time like, what's your first, likememory of playing football? Um, my first organized or just playingfootball, period. Either either or E. Remember in ah, and in first grade,trying, trying to throw it across the yard. And we had a yard I was saying isprobably at my elementary. Emerson, How about 50 yards, maybe 45. And when Ifirst got here, I couldn't throw it. I couldn't throw the ball toe likehalfway. And then, as I kept getting older, I started getting closer andcloser to that gate, and then I end up throwing it over that gate before Ileft. So that was like a big deal for me. But just, you know, that journeybeen a quarterback. Like I've always been the slower at the group. And so,like, that's probably my first riel memory with football right there. Yeah.So now I was gonna ask, like so you always wanted to be like a quarterback.Did you play any other prison drawing up? No. We played everything I play dline, old line. The beautiful thing about our pop warning system. I was setup in Oakland. You had to start on the line. It makes me and makes youappreciate the hard work that they dio and also makes you tough because, youknow, you get contact, courage and you're in the trenches and you reallyunderstand pad level and all the, you know, the the important things infootball. So, uh, I wanted to play quarterback from the get go, but thatmade me play Olen. I had number 73 but I wouldn't change that for the worldbecause it, you know, helped build helped build me to the player that Iend up becoming? Yeah. Yeah, definitely.

And then just going from your highschool in Oakland. What was your recruiting process like to college? Wasn't highly recruited. Got got hurt.My junior year. Um, still small, really small was, like 5 £1140 at the combine,To be exact around like a 48549 40. Probably looked like I was still inelementary, and then, uh, started going a little bit. Uh, and from there, youknow, made some place, but I was still a raw talent. Like, didn't reallywasn't a polished passer, per se from Not from my arm. Talent standpoint,just from a fundamental standpoint, growing up in Oakland really, reallyhave a lot of the resource is besides one quarterback, coach Roger Theatershout out to him. He passed away too. Um, but he taught me the basics, youknow, tell him to work with, and then from there, just, you know, wasn't hadCoach Harbaugh had a local coach. Alonso Carter. Really? I played against,uh, made a reference to coach horrible about, You know, that I have somebecause I saw my tape and he actually told me he knew I would grow. He feltlike I was a lot better than what you know, I was showing. He just saw a lotof stuff that I didn't understand yet. And I was very grateful for him. Sowhen he offered an opportunity to come play USD, even though it's not ascholarship I started as a blessing, just really wanted to take advantage ofthe opportunity, which I end up doing. Yeah, definitely. And yeah, yeah, youearned, like all American there and things like that. What about likeduring college was their point Was there, like, a turning point or anypoint before that, Like, you knew you could go pro? Um, he he was honestly telling me himand his dad was telling me my freshman year that I had a chance to, you know,be undrafted free agent. And I ain't I was like, What the hell are you talkingabout? I don't know. Anybody gonna pick me up for NFL, But like as I continueto get better, like he he started. He started going up in the rounds and hestarted and he started just saying more,...

...more. He wanted, like he installed alot of confidence for me. Like I was. I was kind of afraid of the limelight,afraid of the success. I just wanted to play football. I didn't. I thought Iwas just like everybody else. So, like, he kind of installed that confidence inme That that you know, I end up internalizing it, but really didn'tknow how to show it. So I mean, by the time I left, I knew I knew where it wasRiel. I just really had to get on the right stage to show it. And at theshrine game was able to do that. And then for Merrill, just the process, youknow, of knocking, you know, checking off the list, which I didn't do at thecombine. I had a horrible combine, but it was something. It was a greatlearning experience for me, though. Yeah, just like going into the combine.And after that, Um, like, where did you think you were gonna drafted and thenlike you getting drafted in the fifth round? You think like that exceededyour expectations or didn't exceed your acquisition? Um, I didn't e I think How What can I say this I exceededpeople's expectations, but not minds. I felt like I had a talent. I was I was atop two round talent, but I didn't do the things necessary to get drafted inthe top two rounds. Um, my, uh, talent wise could have been just I was talent.Is anybody out there? But I smarts wise, Yeah, but fundamentally wise. That'swhere I like. You know, the reasoning for somebody to do that, especiallycoming from a smart school. But it was just me. I think it was necessary forme to learn who I really waas as a quarterback like the u. S. D. I gotaway with things because of my athleticism that I really didn'tunderstand how the home for me going in the fifth round, really having to findthe hard way is made me become a more fundamentally sound quarterback,understanding the proper mechanics of doing, playing the position,understanding when I can use my athleticism. Because, like, I mean, aswe just saw yesterday, you know, I gotta be the best athlete doing Su Bo aquarterback position. So just me going the fifth round really allowed me tofocus and have that mindset of how can...

I become good at what I'm getting paidto do and then use my athleticism as a bonus? So although I didn't exceed Mike,didn't, you know, reach my expectations? I would change it because it helped mementally, you know, get to this point of my journey. Yeah. Yeah, I feel you,um and then just going in tow Tampa Bay, year like year one. Uh, just what whatwas, like, your first game? Like. And then, uh, could you take me through,like, your first touchdown pass? Uh, my first game. Just dressing orthis or playing? No, actually, playing my first game was my second year,actually, and it was kind of crazy because the whole off season, I was thenumber four quarterback, and but I knew the playbook. And then when they end upmaking cuts, you know, I had a couple good games in pre season. They decidedto go with me and Josh Freeman as the backups to Byron Leftwich. And, uh, youknow, Joshua, the first round pick. So I just kind of, you know, you got thescraps of everything, but I knew the system. So when they came in, theywanted to make a change. They told me, Are you going in next week? And I wentfrom like, not getting no reps toe finally get in the huddle with startersand so, like that within itself was like a new experience and really itreally it really grew me up because I didn't understand the business side offootball in the politics that go into football, as people like to referenceit as I just don't understand because I was coming from U. S. D. A small schoolwhere you know everything was earned. Nothing was given, but like and that'snot the same here. It's a little different up here based on situations,and so like handling those situations was a new experience for me. But I mean,went out there through my first touchdown, Antonio Bryant, on the playaction pass off the turnover and it was shit. It was exciting, but almost youwould have thought out to the game winning touchdown exciting I was, butit was all just it's experiences that I'll cherish to this day, but that wasjust lessons like there were this lessons that I needed to go through.More importantly, because it was really...

...teaching me how that is really, reallyworks in office. Just related to football. So yeah, definitely. Yeah.And that's a throwback named Brian Left. Which, uh, and him, uh, eyes. Is itweird that, like your former, your former teammates are now coaches? No,because he helped me out a lot. He me under his wings and he gave me so muchreal gang just on how to handle myself as a professional quarterback,especially African American. So him. I've always been appreciative of him.Like every time I seen I was just letting you know he was always like abig brother to me. I'm just happy for him, man. I'm not surprised that thesuccess is having I know, I know the players loving. Obviously, I could seehim and Brady got a great relationship. So I just think the sky's the limitfrom and it's a natural transition for most of us players to go from playingto coaching because all the guys just wanna be around the game and the nextstep once you can't play number. Where is coaching? Yeah. Yeah, definitely. SoI know you've been on a lot of NFL teams, but just like you obviously haveto have a strong mentality to just bounce around all the all the time.Like what has that been like? And how have you stuck to it? I love the game. Like first andforemost, I love the game. So, like when you love it, you gonna go hard forwhat you love, like we all do. We all once you're something we're passionateabout something that we could wake up for on our own. We go hard for it, themental toughness just coming, really just being honest for myself and reallytruthful to myself. Like taking the criticism is not against everyone isagainst me, which is hard to do when you're younger, but really say allright, where can I be better at and really find a way to get better at thatdaily, no matter what's going on? And that's just been a journey I've been onand just really using every opportunity as opportunity where I can grow as aplayer. Like whether it was the ufl, the XFL, whether it's working out withhigh school kids, whether it's anything that I'm doing using as opportunity totry to position myself to get to the...

...next step in his career. Yeah, and what's it been like justplaying in different leagues to I know you're actually you're killing it inthe XFL until it folded. Experience has been invaluable for me.I mean, because, I mean, there is no replacement for reps. And so if you'renot getting them, you know, you got to go find them somewhere. And if you getcut, a lot of guys that sit around on the culture, you know, wait for thephone call and feel like they may feel like they're too good. Right? Thentoday I'm a football player. So somebody will get the opportunity toplay football. Yeah. I mean, I wanna put at the highest level at all times,but if the opportunity don't exist, the only way I could position myself to dothat is by going to the opportunities that's out there. And so that's what Isaw those as opportunities for me to not only position myself to get back tothe main stage, but to also get better, like work on the things that justprobably got cut or work on the things that I know I need to grow because it'sgonna make me a better player and really find my niche with it. Yeah, And would you would you say the Xf l is is the reason why the 40 Niners sand? Hell, yeah, like I've got as a player,like the things I got to work on in the x f l was a accumulation of things I'vebeen learning for the past four or five years, but not playing a lot of games.You don't really get a chance to really own these things. But in XFL'sopportunity for me to own these thes thes mechanics on these situations anddo it not only just in practice, but do it in games and do it and walk throughsand doing every little situation that you are able to get as a startingquarterback. So I just really, you know, I was able to put a lot together andthere's, you know, I'm still growing as a player, but like like when I had theopportunity to work out for the Niners in August, I told him, I'm like my goalis to get you all to sign me and end up working out. Really? Really? What? Itiss? Yeah, that's awesome. What advice would you give toe Younger kids tryingto either get a d one scholarship or trying to make a pro league,...

...um, be real with yourself first andforemost like and then once you real with yourself like you don't you don'tkill yourself. You just be honest. And once you're honest with yourself to me,it's not about where you starts about always how you finished, like going theone is the real goal. But if you're not, if you're not gonna get the opportunityto get to the next level, you could get education anywhere. So But if you ifyou want to be able to play at the next level you the first thing to do that isto get on the field. So you want to get on the field and you want to getsomewhere where you could grow and then obviously still get education. And thenfrom there, you you own that opportunity. You don't look at it asI'm at this school. I'm at that school. You look at it as I'm playing on thishunting in 20 yard grass field, and your job is to go out there and put iton tape every every moment that you can. The expectations will be harder, butexpectations gonna be hard everywhere. So the sooner you get used to it is thebetter to be for you when you try to get to this. This pro level, whichevery day is hiding expectations. You gotta make it normal to be able tohandle it. Yeah, yeah, for sure. And I know you mentioned about blackquarterbacks before. Like, how could you like yourself? Like help people?Just being able to speak to him like that was that was my biggest battle ismost of the guys that training the position that kind of can't relate tothe inner city and really be ableto make that correlation. So what weexperience and how we have to survive where we come from and make it out ofthat situation and then go, go be basically the the face of ah multibillion dollar organization like that's a huge leap, and it's like it's notthat we don't want to, but, you know, it's gotta be a certain comfort levelthere to where we understand what we're getting ourselves into it because wedon't come from these kind of environments. And even when it justcomes to the fundamentals of getting...

...guys to understand that there's adifferent levels of throwing 300 yard passing game, you know, you could throwit 300 yards. Anybody can throw threw for 300 yards. But it's how you reallydoing it from the quarterback position. How you playing the game, how you seein the game? Are you throwing the ball on time? Are you making the right reads?Are you just throwing the ball up in coverage? And the receiver is justmaking plays for you and making you look this. So there's really levels tothis and just really for me, I just wouldn't give you false realities. Igive you the real reality and be able to work with guys that accept thatreality, so that because what you need to know in the beginning will alwayshelp you In the end. If you on the right path versus just tryingto be,just put up a bunch of numbers, yeah, yeah, definitely. Now let's go off thefield. I know you're entrepreneur. You have your own foundation. Um, tell me.Tell me a little bit about that family first, right? I found First FamilyFoundation is you know, that's our baby man. Uh, just is really been away. Thatreally for us in 2000 and eight, 2007, when actually Marshawn started with thecamp that me and Marcus came in and other players Ryan Murphy, DeAndreCampbell, all these guys that made it to the pros for their Larkin's or hadopportunities to make it to the pros. That came up the same way we did. Itwas big for us in 2000 early. You know, 2007, 8 2002. Use our opportunities tonot only for ourselves, but for our community. That wasn't common, you know.You know, there are people doing it, but it wasn't as common as it is todaywhere everybody's, you know, now into giving back and really bringing thecommunity together. So to be a part of that process and really get to thepoint. Now we have a youth center and partner with other like minded peopleand organizations to be able to share first and foremost knowledge with ourcommunity and daring resource is and then opportunity. You know, it's it'sIt's a good feeling, man, and it's just everything else just stems from thatjust being able to create opportunity.

That's not about just making money, butreally just about making an impact in some form of fashion, Not just yourselfand your family, but for other show is everything. Yeah, definitely. Now, Iknow it's weird time right now, but do you guys have any, like, events? Planfor 2021? We were just gonna, um we just had a cure. Pewter give back, uh,90 K horrific computers, HP laptops with Oakland WiFi program and up aroundto colleges. And that was big for us. Uh, way have our we're doing our onlinezoom classes, which anybody can be a part of right now, no matter where theyat long as they could meet the Times because it's online. So we're justtrying to maintain, uh, I don't like it, but it's what we gotta do becauseeverything is scaled back like we can't do our our camping trips. We can't doour field trips we can't do our within week camps of architect likeeverything's online and it's kind of like water down a little bit, But it'sa do so you know, Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's definitely pros in concert. Imean, but I think that's why it's cool to like you just said, like now youcould get anyone toe join the virtual event. It's just, you know, gettingpeople they wanna buy into our process. A lot of people feel mentallychallenged by this situation, which we all are, And, you know, some peoplejust maybe overwhelmed with being on Zoom, which I rationalized it just aweird It's a weird time. It's weird time, man. You kinda gotta leteverybody running on little race with it right now, E. I mean, the one thingI've been saying to I mean, I think the one positive thing is just like thetechnologies in general is just, like cool to see that like we had and weweren't using for, if not for sure, like, and I think that's, you know,opens up people's minds and open up mom things that the resource that are outhere even for free that you could be using to make life a little cooler s.So I think if you sit back and use this...

...time to grow, I think those people willbenefit a lot, especially when the world open back up and get them back tosome normalcy. So I've just been trying to do is as opportunity to really growYeah, for sure. And then I know you have the ultimate gaming league. Thio,Could you tell me a little bit about that and how it came about? I'm just started with, you know, threeguys from Oakland having a similar passion for gaming like me and like me, I was throwing that in turn, Mr. Launchclothing lines in 2013 and like, that's kind of what I do like, I've beenplaying video games since Atari, but I wasn't into the whole streaming and inonline and having the right mix in the right light and all this stuff that I'mlearning about now on, I was just, you know, wanted to play the game and and Iwas in a matter of franchise and that was the first thing you know. My guy,my friend, who runs it He's like, You got a stream, your games And I'm like,What the hell is that? Like what? You mean I gotta stream my games? He's like,You got a credit twitch and I'm like, I don't want to create a twitch. I justwanna play mad, you know, like I've been playing mad in my whole life, ButI was like, my first test of it. You know your credit Twitter Stream programout the controller. That's not really what, like now with the U. G. L. Wekind of doing it all like when we're like we partnered up with with the inperson tournaments, uh, Madden tournaments. We had an adult lounge,halftime sports bar. Then we use a youth lounge soldier town in Oakland.We have a little pop ups, but that was like in person stuff. But when Kobe,you know, we had to evolve on, we had to learn how to do this remote thing.And where we at now what it is still throwing tournaments, person say Wejust had our qualifiers for our franchise, but now it's more of aleague for our community on. We have these franchises headed up by NFLplayers highlighting, you know, myself, Sidney Jones. Chad Ochocinco has a teammatch. Crosby has a team, and we're gonna let our community, you know, playin our league, and we're having a carry,...

...a lot of content. And then with thatleague, you know, we're gonna help A lot of people, you know, benefit ourprizes and things of that nature. But the ones that really take ownership ofthe opportunity gonna build a brand. You know, hopefully we find the nextbest talent to pass them on to the sports because we're not eat sports.Were more gaming, more lifestyle, more cultural base with what we're doing,Kind of welcome anyone. But, you know, there will be some hidden gems thatcome out of this. We want to be able to push them forward as professionals, youknow, Then for us is u G L. You know, we're gonna have that athlete franchisemodel component. My partner, Chuck Johnson, is heavy. And the music sceneSo we're doing we're doing music based content like we call them DJ hangouts.And then we'll have our you know, our artists come on and you know they'llcompete with each other over games but also will celebrate what they're doingin their career fields, respectively. And then I will also have, like what wecall the you jail academy, which is for the younger kids. And I've been able tocreate, you know, resource driven game and opportunities where we not onlyteach them, you know, surrounding around the right people that's gonnateach them, but learn them, understand by production. Or whether thisunderstand about PR all the different business elements that go into thisthing. So we got a nucleus of opportunities not just for ourselves,but for others, which is similar to what you know. It all stands for whatthe family first model is. You know, not just, you know, empoweringyourselves, but empowering those around you that isn't it crazy. How, likegaming is a career now is awesome. It's awesome to me. It's crazy because, like,you know, people will get cussed me out like you damn game all night or weekendoff season. You wanna play the video game? I'm like, Why not? I'll travel onthe road and I don't want to go out to the State House. I want to sit in myroom and play my PlayStation like Like, now. That's cool, though. That's cool.Yeah, that's funny. I'm just happy...

...because there's so many of us. Do itlike how many of us have been doing it. But it's only been from a consumerstandpoint, So now be ableto flip the switch. You said if you take it serious,it was just like, Hey, you sports now for a kid, you do it right? You got theopportunity. And, like, unlike sports, don't have to retire. You could be Oh,yeah. Really? Are you ready for some fun questions? Yeah. Uh, what arewhat's three jerseys that you don't have that you want? Like any jerseys? ALS deal. I I can probably get it if I asked. Idon't gotta Joe Montana. Jersey. I don't gotta Mike. Big Jersey. Who? Mm.In the last one, dear. Uh huh. Michael Jordan jars. All right, Michael Jordan and I leftsome people out to now is the good ones, though I love the people. Are you?That's our question where you can't make that a three d. That's, uh Whatwas your was your was your favorite quarterback growing up, Joe Montana. I got the back end of jail. So it wasmore of Ah, he was like a god to me because I just like I saw, I saw him onhis way out, and I just knew he was just Joe cool.And I saw all the highlights and stuff, but it started off. Really? The guy gotto study because I was ever see his growth for Steve. Yeah. Then then when Steve Young guy hurt,you know, Jeff took over and I end up being teammates with Jeff, So that wascool tap. But then, like But after Jeff, it was Mike Vick and it was just like,damn! And like, I love all quarterbacks, brother. Like, I had a love haterelationship for Brett Farve. The quarterback side of me love them to 40Niner fan of me hating him like, you...

...know, like it's always been like. Ijust appreciate the guys that play the game the right way and just figuredlike so. Like I said, I have a favorite. I really don't. I just kind of likewatching guys that really get out here and get get out. Yeah, for sure. Andthen Obviously, I think a lot of people know you're Marshawn Lynch's cousin on.You got to play with them in high school, and then I know you werebriefly on the Raiders with them, but what was it like to just play with themin the pros soon? Um, it was just a blessing, man, like,for me, It just felt like he was right back in high school. He's still He'sstill my favorite player of all time. Like I felt like he short changed us inhis career because most people never seen the receiver side of him that Iknow he really was capable of doing. But, um, the end of the day, like so,the best football player I ever played with in all facets. Just, uh, thecombination of size, strength, athletic ability, smarts, mentality. Just aperfect football player, like you want that guy on your team if you had achance to. So I was blessed to be able to play with on. We were able to winour first and only championship at our high school, and he was a lot, a lot todo that. And when he did the beast quake around that run was similar. Sowhat he did to win our high school championship and it's still floatingaround the Internet eso like it is just a blessing. Whenever you could put yourfamily but like to play with probably your favorite football player, it'ssimilar. And now markets just like that markets. Probably my favorite defensiveplayer, because people don't give them enough credit. They don't at all at all,but they don't understand because they want. They want him to play the game orwhat they want. That they think he should instead understand that hiscorner, his position is quarterback. Raise the football player. Alright,athletes? No, he just plays the game from a football standpoint. He's he'sjust playing the game to guard his guy.

Yeah, I could run you off and take youout the game if that's all you focused on. Yeah, but understands everythingthat goes within the game. Even quarterbacks reason lingo. That's howyou get so many interceptions for sure not. Alright, I gotta ask you, youcould answer this or not Answer this. Uh, what it would have Marshawn Lynchscored if they gave him the ball on the Super Bowl, E I ask you just cause it'sbeen brought up a lot this week. I was at the game when he came out a shotgun.I knew that was from the passage. I was sitting in the stands. I knewwhat it waas hell, you have second down on the one yard line here. He wouldscore. All right, Last one. Besides, like video gaming and your charity work,what else do you like to do in your free time? Um really, man, just spend time with mykids, my family, um, get out. Like I'm still like the activelittle care. Like the ride bikes e like to go back the park. Um, I'm starting.I love traveling more now. Took places like that's unique. That's not likemetropolitan areas to really get out experience culture. I'm at that pointin my life where I'm really appreciating that Mother nature isstarting to become more of a beautiful thing to me than it was when I wasyounger. So pretty much that I'll be chilling, though, but, uh, I kind offound my lanes around things and I'm passionate about, so that takes up mytime and then we're having three kids and a fiancee like that takes up therest of my time. Routine football. Yeah, And then you just squeezed in. Eactually got one last question. If I if I went to Oakland, what food spot do Igot to check out? Robbins. What kind? What kind of spot? Thoughtful. Allright. R o B than B N s been. That...

...might have been the quickest response Iever got. Before we pull up to the band's man. Ain't gonna get you some ofthat get. You got options? You got chicken, got fish. You know, if you gowith the whole family, you gotta get the be small platter on and have have awhack at it. Oh, man. Well, I appreciate this. Uh,and, uh, could you let the listeners really could follow you out on socialmedia? Um, you can follow me a headache. H e ad the number eight c k e on Twitter on instagram u g l World is on instagramUgo world. Uh, fam First families on Instagram family, First Milano orclothing line Family first us all on a I G. So you could check out everythingI'm doing. But everything is centralized on my page On my bio, youcould really go Just really see where I'm at. And obviously, you know, the 40Niners is it is easy to find So that's pretty much what my life consisted ofright now. Wait. How did you How did you get the name? What's the headache?Is there any story behind that? It's a story that I'm waiting to tell like Ikind of gave with General General Synopsis, But it started me having abig ass head when I was little e always being like first. It went from headachehead to head coach because I was a quarterback and always trying toorganize some. And then the headache part came. And when I started reallyexpressing my thoughts a lot more, I got my I've always been like a outlierthinker, so I challenged, make people think All right, I like that, you know,And that's kind of like the Star Wars Dragonball z side of me. The gamer side.You know, the little nerdy side of me. So when you put them all together, it'skind of a It's like a headache. But it's a good thing, though. I'm not astory when I'm done. E. I appreciate...

...this. This was this was dope. All right,Big dog.

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