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Justin Allen | Average To Savage EP65

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This is the sixty-fifth episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring sports trainer Justin Allen. Paul Guarino talked with Justin Allen (Dwayne Allen's brother) discussing his football career, opening his own gym, and being on Netflix's Last Chance U training/mentoring Ronald Ollie. Follow Justin Allen https://www.instagram.com/JustinAllen_13/

This is the average to savage podcast with Paul Greno everyone in anyone, athletes sets and much more. It's up, everybody. On back for another episode of the average Sabas podcast. Our special guests today is Nike sponsor trainer just now and Justin. How's it going? I'm doing good, good, good. Appreciate you coming on. Yes, appreciate, appreciate the opportunity. So let's just go back in time a little bit. How did you get into football? Basketball? Okay, whole life, high school career, I played basketball and then I was in junior college in my hips and kept hurting from the from the hard wood, and I was always knew I was a football player, built like a football player, but I ran from it. Come up brother with number one tight in a country and finally he gets drafted, just like man. I got to stop running from this and football a lot better on my hips. It sounds crazy, but grass and turns a lot soften in the wood made this which man when he got drafted, and I would chanke it for world. Yes, a way. So did you play high school football? No, I did not. I did not. Have played back. Crazy, crazy. So how'd you end up at New Mexico state, the wide receiver, okay C Fancisco, and went back to back newson championships and from there MESCO state came to end up again in contact with coach our tode. Little done and wrap ended up going in the best coast date. It's crazy. So, so the first time you played football, isn't it was in junior college? Yeah, my first time playing again was in college. Sir, it's crazy. It's crazy, and you go do you want her? So two thousand and fourteen was your last year playing football? Correct? It was fifteen. Graduated in fifteen. Was My last year.

Graduated in fourteen. Fifteen with my last year. Got It. Did you go straight into football training, like, did you know that's what you wanted to do? Are you didn't know what you're doing? That goes the process after football, to be honest with you, man, as a young kid I always said my own training facility, gym. You know, I had to dreams of going to the NBA, NFL, and when I had my career in injury or surgery because I was born with the disorder, I just kind of transition. I didn't know I was thinking about it at the time. I just said in love with trying to help my teamates and you know, I'm saying, coach him and put the make better situations to see, because I knew, I could know. I'm trying to read and make comeback, but the pain from the microfracture I kind of knew, but it gave me that. It just inspired me to much more. I also went into depression well after foot I wanted to pression. After football was taken away, once I had ur just and could no longer play football, I wanted to depression, and so that drove me to want to help young hath pets as well, because I didn't understand. I grew up, you know I'm saying, I grow homeless, I grew up struggling, watch my parents struggle, staying stock up child. So I had seen it from the bottom growing up, and so the dream that I had to help my family was no longer possible. So I really didn't know what to do and I just went into the pression. I felt like I failed, but like I felt everyone, even though it was a disorder that I was going with and it just got worse over time and that one last hit just made everything in changes. took his total that last one, last hit to my body. That took a toll on my body. So from there, once I wanted to depression, man, I moved with my brother and I was there for about two or three months, man, and the whole time I was in depression. I had went to K why, Hitting Sons Basketball Party, and he bluly just playing ball and I'm about to pass the ball to see why, man, I just had anxiety to I out of nowhere, but like I couldn't...

...breathe and I was just stressed out. Man, coat doctors had to come check me out, and from there I just was like, man, I told my brother like I want him to move me to Houston. I was just like a saying me to use, because I had never had anything given to me and I just felt like it was best. And I came to Houston, man, and started training, and I mean I have had any guide detects. I love helping people, just being able to help people mentally actually for emotionally, man, there's no better for them. Yeah, so you got you in. Is there a reason why you picked like Houston to start training there? I grew up here. Okay, so yeah, going back to that, was there like when Dwayne made the NFL, was there like pressure on you two to make it as well? No, I never really feel pressure. I never really feel pressure because I know, like I know how hard I work and I know how hard I break. So there wasn't any pressure. But I wanted to for my mom and my dad and I and my siblings. I was a dream to play with my brother and the national football league. But I wouldn't say there was pressure to make it. And he helped me a lot because he told me personally man like, he doesn't just place himself. That means a lot to me knowing that, you know I'm saying, he's not only plan for themselves, playing for me and the similars that he has, mom ad family. So I hear that made it a lot better for me. Yeah, definitely, ughly. So, yeah, he moved back to Houston and then, like, what was the starting point of you training these players? Say, like, I don't know, maybe like the first week, like who is your first client from young kids when I started off? Man, yeah, and I just fell in love with it and then it just grew. Started training some high school guys and started sending the improvement in those guys teaching them some things I learned along the way. I got to seat the game. I see the game differently because I didn't play in high school. So I had to learn two things that people will look I had learned a little things and in junior college,...

...and it was one to be able to compete and get myself an opportunity and also having the double hit with instruction. I haven't learn how to walk. Had learned how to do a lot of different things again, so I see the training game from a different view. Show idiot. It helped me be able to translate that and give them that much more insight of the body. got. You got and you have your own gym now, right, yes, and we when did you? When you open that? My old trainer had let me run his gym for a little bit, okay, and then I ended up going from Park to school and finally got my own spot in December. I think. Guys, how many? How many guys are you training out? I see you got a lot of big prospects of going and done stuff like that. Man, I turn a lot of guys spun me and my assistant were we've actually been. We've been putting the numbers together because we're great this system. I don't want that one. Are Though, but then I turn a lot of players from elementary out to look to the film. Yeah, at you, and I saw maybe, I don't know, maybe about a month ago or two months ago, you signed a deal with Nike's hard that come about, man, just all prayer and doing the right things. Man, knowing the right people is being the right timing. Of course, I love what I do. I'm believe in what I do, and so then I moved to it. I don't really like taking credit for her. The athletes order people. That a train. So it's just a place. If sure, you got to go to the actual mighty headquarters, rights actually up there and show me around to see all the great got to see all the greats. They got their own buildings and its pretty sweet, man, isn't it? It's like a mini town right, oh, man, it's it's like its own town, like it's crazy. It's like the Super Mall, but it's not even a mall. It's like yeah, it's almost like a college town. So like, I don't know, it's...

...college fell, but everyone's like it's like a tight knit unit at the same time. So it's pretty sweet. Felt like home, so like a family. So, like I said, just a blessing. The bit apart organ, with organ itself, was beautiful. That's one place I could probably see myself living if I ever moved. Yeah, it's crazy. So going into last chance you, you're on season two, right. Use a season three. He's three. Yea. Also see the three and I'll also being season for which areas July nineteen. And how did you end up on the show? Oh Man, I never imagine myself being on the show. I was doing just from from, like I said, doing the right things and helping people, and I was just helping Ali, help long all training him, and one day they called them and I get a call one day when day we're driving, was going to get some to eat and I get a call and I usually don't pick up numbers that I know, and there's a California number. And then so I pick it up and his I hay, this is a great from Netflick last chance you, and so I'm thinking it was a joke or something like. Why he calling me right, and so I put the phone on because I just want to put the phone on you. I was like some kind in grade Collus mess if I had it. That's the that's the sister producer. And he was like, I get me a number forgot to tell you, and so take the phone off from you, and I was like yes, sir, this is just now and how you doing, and just started to talk to him and man, he was so cool, down to earth and it just loved the fact that all he was doing what a lot of people didn't expect him to do, and I was able to get through to him and help him understand just the little things that he never really had the guidance, never really had that father figure for someone to just pull into him and teach him. So He's a great kid man, just being just having that purple heart. Man. I mean I was...

...blessed to be a part of the show, blessed to be back on the show man just and, like I said, I was just training allague man when expecting thing on it. Just wanted him to get back in school and get his education, football, football, some football, take care of bill, and so that's really how it happened. Man, just training all the up the kind of mark. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, sometimes stuff this happens like that. How did you and Ali Wink Up. Originally, he came to the gym and get a haircut. One day, when he came to get a haircut, like everybody was like taking pictures of him, like you know who that is, and I'm like that billy didn't. I had never watched any episode of last chance you and I was like everybody taking pictures of them, but like that didn't mean anything. And me like doing now and for several years, I've been around everybody can think of, and so I'm not really a star struck guy. So I was just like cool, you know, excited for the kids and everybody's taking pictures from and I was excited for him. I didn't know who he was. I kept training the athletes that I had and he wanted stairs and got a haircut and when he was leaving, everybody's like, you know, like you don't know what that is. So I was like I've never seen, never heard of his last chance. He when I last chance, you know what's that? So I typed his name and on Google and I'm like, okay, if he plays football, y the year right now, I here in Houston September or its like August, September. I was like should he be in camp. So I reset him on twitter, as I hate your brother telling you play footballs where you play it, and he's telling his story how some people would tell him he should go pro and you should enter the arena and this, but he was like he's not listening to it. He he just really wants to go to a felt like he's should have been a bigger school, but he had a lot of people in his year. So it made it made him like, man, that tell me I should go pro. Maybe I suit go switch to a bigger school. So he was in his mind. He was thinking if he left nickels he could get to the school because he had offers. Comes from the Gym College. You Want Hi's, and they...

...showed on the show. He has some Nice big time division one offer. So he felt like his chances going to the NFL or to showcases talents, had to on a big stage. And really would I let him know. I was like, man, listen, those coaches gave you an opportunity and took a chance when you even with the stuff you did on Netflix. And I know he wasn't bad kid. I knew he wasn't a bad character, but the things he did on Netflix and for the school to take a chance on him. I told him, I was like man, you, you you ower to those coaches to go back and earn your spot and being leader for that program. I was like, I know you aren't a bad kid. I know some people portrade you differently just because of Netflix, but I just don't sail up. was like, as a man, you got I say you could. If you're that good, you make it for anywhere. I was like, as a man, I feel like used to go back and make the right it because those coaches gave you an opportunity that no one else would. And so, and that's really like the conversation we had. I mean he felt he put to work in man and got his shape and he got in a classroom that is Graz up and got back in the Nicholas Man and now he's fighting for a spot on the fixt three men Russell with overready. Yeah, definitely definitely has one of the best stories from my last year shot and all now it's talking in full circle with the NFLS. Yeah, yeah, I mean, and that's crazy how you met him too, just like he came to get a haircut and then you, like you said the people. You didn't know who he was, people told you and then you hit him up, like like almost happened for a reason. Okay, that's how that's how I feel like we had a similar stories, man like, like he he witnessed hit what his parents went through and that tragic against it, and I wouldness with my parents went through during their time of struggle. And so for me to be able to relate to him, it was like, man, I've already been here or I've been through with him, been through and he's never really met anyone that's been through what he's been through. Sometimes people just want to know that they're not lone, you know what I mean? Yeah, everybody in the world needs somebody, and I just had to get him to understand, like, you're not going to always have...

...somebody to Leano and you're not going to always be in the situation that you want to beat him, but you got to make the best of and so it's just those little things that we had similar cats, she traces that are similar, and for me it's simple to be able to relate to him, and so I don't see it I everyone else sees, because I feel like that's what I was supposed to do, but I definitely a blessed to have met out. Definitely definitely. And what about like when the show premiered and, like say, you're friends in your family started seeing you, like people that didn't know you, like was your like social media and like your phone blown up? Oh Yeah, yeah, most definitely. My phone start blowing up, social media started blowing up. I was actually verified, man, and my twitter Guy Hack, social media Guy Hack, so and it just happened. I got didn't even requested, they just verified me. So, yeah, thanks, happened pretty quick, man. And to be honest, which I didn't even watch the show for a while, this type of person I am, I didn't even watch the show for a while. Like people just kept coming anybody, and then finally I'll just like, I'll go watch. I watched it. It's pretty sweet. It's pretty sweeten. Did you watch the first two seasons as well? I went back and watch a little bit, man, get understanding of everything that have transpired in the first two episodes. And there's some funny kids on the great athletes and those those those guys have some those guys with characters, for sure. But yeah, we're back and watch the move it. I think I'm gonna do that here pretty soon and I think I'm gonna just go watch one through four once. Soon as this next one drops, I'm going to just start from the top and just watch it just to get that behind everything. Yeah, definitely. I mean the brand itself has grown like crazy over the last four years now. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's like it got to be. It got to be one of the top shows on Netflix. And then what about like I know you said you saw a few episodes, you say, and you went to Jew Code. You think it portrays the Jew Coo route the correct way? Oh yeah, definitely, hard man, and it's really a stroke.

But you get kids from all over, you get kids from different states, different cities, man, that have this football dream, and you got a coach that that is going to push you. A lot of kids in this real man, a lot of kids on how to take discipline, they'll understand discipline, they don't not take the constructing criticism, and then a lot of kids on other players a team, and the coaches have to teach them not only how to be football players but how to be young men. Want the teams that can actually listen and buy into what the coach is trying to teach them, they're going to be the winning team that you can see from the show. This is struggles fight that cause. Like it's not for everyone. Yeah, ever, for sure, I got a lot of you got a lot of different characters mixed together, man, a lot of different personalities mixed together, and everyone's trying to achieve one go. The dream is to go division one, of course, but it's trying to get to that next level of college with that dream of playing the next planning NFL. So is definitely portrayed how it actually happens. Man, he got those tough coaches. He's just got to have tough skin. And you got some players that don't understand it it was too late. You got some players that that take your serious and get in and get out. The shows all three phases, all three four phases of the Jay cut of B and that translates to College Division One, divisit to convisit three as well. So it definitely portrays reality. Definitely, definitely. Yeah, I remember when I first watched it and I was like these places are in the middle of nowhere, like it's crazy. What advice would you give to like a young football player or young trainer, is be a sponge. Sponge, I like to tell everyone, man, it's always better to not be the smartest one in the room, because then you have room to grow. Be a sponge, learn from those that have done it before you and understand it's okay to fail. Talking tell them anything. It's okay to fail, is just want you fail. You just got to get back up. You're going to fall, but don't let that fault keep you down. Get back up and keep going and don't let anyone, anyone, tell you what you can and cannot do, but be smart at the...

...same time. Some people don't be one two people chasing something that's not there. Sometimes it's for a season and you got to know when it's four season. And I was one of those guys, man with a football. That wasn't meant for me to go play professional ball and bea even though it put me in depression, I realized it too late. Like this is how it was supposed to play out, you know what I mean. I'm able to accept that I'm not a failure. I fail, but I'm not a failure and I'm a sponge. Man. I like to learn. I don't think I'm smartiport of the ring. If I am, I'm still trying to learn. You know what I mean. Yeah, it's be genuine. Do everything from the heart, and everything else was falling place. Man. I'm a firm believer of what you put on the universe, the energy you put on the Universe's energy, you see. So I'm all about doing the right thing and believing in those prayers, man, and not being afraid to fail. So that's really what I will give them, definitely. I think that was great advice. All right, so you're ready for some fun questions. are going to go from average to savage. All right, guys. All right, what's your favorite Song Right now? My Favorite Song Right now? Wow, but favors song right now probably is by s five Yola, and it's all I got. I'M gonna check it out. Are You more of a Jersey Guy or shoe guy? Guy, I don't really. I told myself when I was young that I wouldn't wear anybody's Jersey and let's do it is mine unless they have my last name on it. Now, obviously I didn't make it to the interview, but my brother did, so in a sense, I still never were anyone else. Is Just you don't even rock his Jersey. Yeah, right, that's only I told myself whatever put on, I told myself if I didn't go pro, I would never wear anyone else. So my brothers sers the first ever purchase. You GOTSA, Gotsha, you got the dolphins, gir now have the men. I'm waiting to him to give you one. You got, you got, you. Yeah, what is that? What is that like when he goes from team to team and like your room for different teams? Is that like kind of strange? Like you change like apparel, you know, like you're wearing patriots stuff,...

...then you're wearing cold stuff, patriots and I rundolphin stuff. Support the game. So MEES, I mean I'm gonna follow him wherever. So, and it's a business, like you got to understand this in this and I understand it's a business. So it is actually falling because I get to explore and experience different cities. Yeah, definitely, that's what do you think? Harder training people or playing football? Definitely, playing football. Play football for a lot of tero training. That's all about passing. Anyone could be a trainer can learn it. It's a learned trait. Now we all have different SCWS and things with gifted with, but end of the day a lot of the talent get born with that talent and I've got given so definitely play football altar, for sure. For sure. Well, I appreciate you coming on the show and I could you let the people know where they can follow you at and stay where your gym is located at Man. I can follow me on twitter and instagram. Justin talent underscore thirteen and both my names are the saying. That's on twitter. I Justin als what their team and training Houston Texas. So yeah, that's really and I appreciate you having me on the show. If for sure,.

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