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Kareem Grimes | Average To Savage EP98

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This is the ninety-eighth episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring Kareem Grimes from CW's & Netflix's All American. Paul Guarino talked with Kareem Grimes discussing his acting career, his character Preach on All American, and his app Face Pop. Follow Kareem Grimes https://www.instagram.com/KareemGrimes Podcast interview with Kareem Grimes was originally recorded April 1, 2020

This is the average to avage podcastwith Baul Garino everyone and anyone athletes soeps andmuch more so if everybody inm back for anotherepisode of the average savage podcast or special guest today is coream GrimesSa Cream how's it going. Man is good man. Just you know, dealing with thedealing with this. This whole coronavirus thing man, you know I'mmaking the most of my time. Man, so you know, keep Bein a positive attitude.Andwere wherere you at right. Now, I'm in Los Angeles, California, okay, is itknow. Is it? Are you guys? UNLOCKDOWN? I mean yeah. where I mean Gavin Newsonwas like ha its a loke down, so I mean I will go out and I it's not that muchtraffic. I will say that so I mean for the most part. Everybody is, you know,Oli, Damn Yeayeah for sure. Hopefully, and soon I'm not really sure I mean Idon't w, think anyone sure, but hopefully yeah it's just people. Justpeople really just got to stay home like at the end of the day. That's whatit is just stay home and let this Tang you know ride out. Yeah has thataffected any gigs you had lined up. I mean yeah, I think for anythingHollywood when you have a pandemic like this, it shuts down everything, so Iwas actually working on t a show and they shut down they shut down becausebecause of it, so yeah, especially in the industry, yeah body't shoot getinganything right now, crazy, yeah. So let's go back in time alittle bit. How do you? How do you get started in acting? Oh Man, it'so funny, I started off. You knowreally just getting a bug. Man, you know watchingTV, you know watching shows a D was likeYoo. I think I can do that and then, of course you know entertaining familywhen they're over and you know a blessing. My mom had a friend who was, he would cast a lot of extras and stuff,and you know a little kid. You say you want to do something. Your parents putyou in that and then by next week, you're unde, something different. So you know we start doing extra work andmy mom, you know, saw that I, you know, really took a liking to it and wantedto do it and you know from ther on man we got into acting classes, Marli Gibbs, and you know from there on man it justit just continued to go from there. So you know yeah just start doing extra work. Youknow as a young kid man and then you know from nearon. It goes YESA. Wheredid you grow up born and raised in Inguwood, California,man? So I'm a LAI heart? I literally, I grew up literally rightaround a corner from the form. So you know I'm a Laker, I'm a Lakers fan toto die hard. Lakers fan for real laker fan all righgot yeah, I'm in I'm. InConnecticut we got those fake Lakor fans, yeah yeahyeah. I saw that. Was You R. Your First Film, I guessiould say right- was boys in the Hood Yeah Yeah first film was boys inthehood and I was e extra on that movie. Man andyou know my mom was very excited because she was like. Oh, it's theyoung, a young black man, he just graduated SC. This movie, she was superexcited. I was just happy to be out of school and be on set and I think the second weekend toshooting we wereat lunch and we were justthrowing a ball around and Jon Singleton came over. He was talking tous and you know he wasyou know talking to me, took a liking to mee and waslike Yo man. I'm gonna give you some lines after we come from lunch. Are youokay with that? And I was like yeah absolutely and you know from from thatpoint on man it was a blessing. You know, Jon Singleton saw something it me,and you know that is my first movie and first speaking role and from that pointon man it just it just took off. So you know always always think my big bro JohnSing to rest in peace, yeah yeah, it's awesome. How old are you? Then man, I'm forty four damn I thought you're Youg Yeaha lot of people a lot of people.They don't believe me when I tell them but yeah man. I wasborn in seventy five, so you know that's that's a part of. Like I said,looking at TV shows, I was looking at males, diners threes company. You know like Flip Wilson, like theseof the shows that I grew up Wonh. So that's how I got that bug thou. Youwere like dirty, yeah, yeah, a lot of people, think that and that'sgood I mean listen. I tripu that, to you know trying to stay in shape. Youknow stay away from negativity, I on't...

...drink or smoke, and you know I'l try totake care of myself. Man Yeah, so I know you've been in Ain a lot of stufflike what what has been. I want. I don't want to say your favorite, butwhat's been like your top moment so far, oh man, I mean, I want to say definitely boys in the hood, becausethat's such a ICAN, that's like a iconic feel man like that's embedded infilm history. I want to say the second one wouldprobably be jar head because I was able to you know act alongside of Jamie Foxwhen he won his Oscar for Ray and then also working with Oscar winter.You Know Sam Mindaz, Aund, Roger Deacons, whoas, the DP so and you know a bunch of great guys,Jake Jillan, Har, Jocko Sims. You know guys like that, and then I want to say my third is CLENEC woot of the mule you know beingable to you know: Bein a scene with clinnecs wood man as an actor. You knowI grew up watching this guy. My Grandmother, ymy family members, grunogrew up washing. You know, cleny swot, dirty Harry the whole night. So to beable to, you know, be in a film with him and being the seme man. That's that'sdefinitely my third top and then right now, man really just all American Othat tops it off Ma the TV show. You know second season, it's number one.It's been number one trending on Netflix, so we're definitely in the topfive right now. So those are like my tops. What about? How do you think, likeNetflix Change, the game like for you personally and like just like ackers ingeneral yeah, I think neflix gives shows orgives people that the opportunity to you know discover new, shows, films, documentaries and that's what Netflix does man and it definitely has helped me. I know last year when all American was on Netflix, a lot ofpeople thought we were in Neflix show, but we were actually on the CD and itgot a whole new set of eyes and people once again discovered this shows likeYo. This is crazy. I really like this show when you guys Goin to be back onNeflix and it's just like no wer how to Netflix show we're on every Mondayeight o'clock on the CW, and you know, with with Netfix Netflix being such apowerhouse platform man. It really just gives projects like I said before TVshows, films and documentaries gives them so much exposure that it allowspeople to be able to discover T ese. These great shows that are out there,its great content yeah. It's funny. You say that about the CW, because Iremember I found out and I saw season two is coming out and you can watch itlike in Appora yeah. I don't even want to watch it like one one by one. I waslike. I just wait till nefles. Now I was a per deplak. That's that I meanthat's, that's where we are right now, man, that's just climate, that we're inlike have a lot of people that say hey. I don't even want to watch it on aweekly basis. I rather just wait till you know Netflix, and I can finish thewhole thing in a day or two. So the one newer thing I've seen Netflixdo is a realease like say like on some shows they release like five episodes.One week then five, the next week, which is very cool to which is then itgives you that little like TV, old school fiel and like the new schoolfiel, absolutely absolutely absolutely yeah. Now what about could you take methrough like like what a audition process is like audition process? Is You know you get acall or email from your agent or your manager and it's pretty much. You knowthe boeaking down of characters and then it you know, orthey may just send you your role with a breakdown and a synopsis of what theproject is about, and you know and then use the attach ot at our size and sidesare, you know, part of the script and they take maybea couple of pages and they send you just those pages for you and you knowsometimes one page. Sometimes it's ten pages you know so you have to you know, beable to study, break it down kind of make your choices as an actor, and youknow you get audition time you get an appointment time. They use O, give youthe the address where you need to be. You know most of the times, theire ownsets parat offices. So you know you have your time and you know you go fromthere. You put in the work, prepare going and audition and yeah you're, either reading with oneperson or You'e reading with two people,...

...or you may have the director in thereand the producers in there, and and just you know, one person reading. Soit just depends man and then now, with with today, you have taped auditions towhere you just make it the audition besides and they say hey. This needs tobe turned in. You know tomorrow today or in two or three days, so you have acouple of days, work or or you may not, and then you just have to you knoweither find a self tape spot or you do it yourself at home tape it edit it andsend it off a what about what's the differencebetween? Is it the same like for movies and TV shows yeah, it's all the same.It's all was saying it's all the same, whether it's a TV show or film youeither have an impersonal, audition or you you self, take, I will say withinthe past. I want to say three years yeah about three three to four years. Iput myself on tape more than I have in my whole entire career. Why do you think that is, I think, just just the industrychanging have some cast and directors who are inNew York New Orleans Chicago Atlanta, and you know you're not able to youknow, get down there, so they say: Hey, you know, send us o self take andeither they'll cast you off of that self tape y. and how do you think it'seasier now, with social media and stuff to get roles? I would say that it just depends man,it's it's interesting because with socialmedia, it's allowing people who may not have taken acting classesor study the craft, but you know they think you thow they're funny orsomebody's or somebody Tolal, they're, funny or Sayi. Don't know you can be anactor now, it gives you the ability to be able to you know, do one minute ofwhatever it is that you want and that that that's kind of a I've always had a problem with that,because I put in the work, I've steadyd t the craft, I'm hated to the crap, andyou know for somebody to just have a phone and say Al'm an actor and Startedoing the minute. Work with stuff is kind of like come on man and then Youamask these followers, and you know some of the studios. Look at that and belike, oh well. They have x amount of followers. You know, let's put them ina film and sometimes that just doesn't work bottom line. So, but I do I dofeel that you know you can use it to your ability. If you are an actor andyou're branding yourself, you can brand yourself to say: Hey, you know, I'm anactor and then you can post some auditions. I've done that a few times.As far as, if there's a project that I didn't book, I'll post that auditionyou know, I'm saying or you know I'm you know pick something and then youknow record myself and then you know, tag these directorsor casting directors or producer. So they can see. My you know see my work,but you know it's just it's. It's is Jimp, it's a thin line between thatbecause it's got to be good stuff. It just can't be just you know. Somebuffoonerin and just you know something. throwng together has to have some sometype of meritude yeah. So you went. Did you go tho? You went to acting shoo yeah, so I took acting classes when Iwas young, also in high school drama school, andthen, when I got to college I study broadcast Erlis and Filmatin ontelevision after I graduate after I graduated,then it was more of I took acting classes at this spot called black nexus nowcalled Susan Batstor, studio and Susan Baton, probably one of the the top Ifeel acting coaches in the business. Shehe's coached one co, Kibmin and a host of other actors, but that's who Istudied, study with and also new collective La, which is kind of like abranch of that school of the people who studied under Susan started, Ta Schoolout here. ECAUSE Susan is based in New York and those are kind of like youknow who I studyin with, because I just like the techniques Yeotra. Oh, where dyou go to college, I went to CAW STA LA stay down here and I was still ackingwhen I was in college too crazy. I was taking you know, twelve sixteen unitsworking and auditioning, you know s the hustle, you know you got to get it done.You know I mean you think college benefited you inanyway for acting yeah. Absolutely absolutely...

...people that I met in my class. Are youknow a good friend of mine, Danielle raw she's? She works for. She works she's in the business and you know she. She works for a big big name actress. You know who has aproduction company, I've, gotten jobs off of you know justthe relationships that I've had with people in college that have gone on.You know to do big things, so you know definitely college definitely helped mecool thing to is my one of my college professors. He directed all the men'swarehouse commercials. I don't know if you remember the Mans Wul Ason be likeI guarantee, like he directed all those s which was which was cool. So if I hadan audistiit, he understood you know, I'm saying so. You know definitelycollege definitely help. You know because definitely the relationshipsthat you do that you are. You know you built there.You know has definitely got me jobs, yeah yeah, you need you, gotta get a WiCopedia fach because its there for me yeah yeah, it's IIT'l, Co, hit's like because, usually like, Iknow some of the stuff, but now it's like, but it's cool too, because that'sI mean this is like a true like. I have no idea so I didn't know so. That'sgood yeah yeah, my friend he worked for Regina King. I was trying to think of of her name, but she works for ReginaKing. She works for a production company, so you know I'm saying that'sjust a she knows. I've worked with herb. I've worked with Regina King and beforeon boys in the hood you know, I'm saying, and it just so happens that afriend of mine that I went to college with works for her. So you know I'msaying yout see how it all connects it's crazy y. ah, because like when, Ithink about college, like I don't think I I mean, I think I learned a lot, butnot really at the same time, but like the connections invaluable for sure,absolutely absolutely absolutely yeah, going back to all American like through,like the day like a day on set with that and like how long does it take tofilm the season? Okay, with all American funny story, my character was only supposed to be onthere for two episodes, and I was you know the last couple ofepisodes of the first season and you know as an actor when you get. You knowRols, like that. You kind of you know want to take advantage of the momentand seize it, and you know do your best and you know that's how I was able toyou know get on to season to I have another story to, but a typical daymanis really like. You Know Sixteen Hour Day, but it just depends F, it's a funny. I say that people likeJeese, but but I love it, you know I'm saying it's it's one of those thingswhen you find something that you love. It never feels like work. You know I'msaying and so for me Typical Day sixteen hours, but you know call time. Maybe you know I think one one call time I had. Ithink it was like five o'clock in the morning because I had to get makeup. Ihad to get prostisis for the scene that I got bet up in inprison, so I had to ge it. You know makeup on so to be on set at fiveo'clock being makeup for about two hours and then you know get to my trailerwardrobe put on my wardrobe try to get something to eat. They usually have your side in yourtrailer of the scenes that they're shooting today, so you know you try toget in and study them and you know just relax really until it'syour time. You know it'til, it's your time to get called and for me you know,because I love what I do. You know I'm always prepared man, I'm alwaysprepared. So you know for me my scenes. They don't take that long. To be honest-and I pride myself on that, so you know we may have two pages two three pages.We may knock it out an you know. Maybe forty forty minutes, forty five minutes,and that's just you know knowing your lines taking your marks and it's prettymuch the director saying. Oh, we may need to shoot it this way we may needto shoot a close up establishing shot. Let's turn around get your you knowyour close up or you know opposite breezes close up to shot and now that'spretty much hit man and and, like I said, I just attribute thatto just being prepared as an actor. Knowing your lines, an your mark andyou know when you're on sit, you know...

...it's fun, but you know it's a job and I love what I do so youknow it just depends man. You know forty forty five minutes and then you know I may be done or you know. IfI have another scene, you knock that out and then they may shoot anotherscene before they get to your. So you know you got at least a couple of hoursto chill until you have your other scene and you knock that out. Thenyou're done so it just depends man. You can literally be on set for four hours three hours,two three four five hours is just up to you, man, Ahat's Az and then Wa. How long? Howmany days are months? Does the whole season take? So this second season we started in Julyand we went into December in the December beginning ofJanuary yeah Eah. So when you said you're onlysuppose to be on the show for like two episodes, they brought you back becauseyeah like how well you perform yeah yeah yeah, what you know? What Ibrought to the character- and that's one thing you know for actors: If youget an opportunity, it doesn't matter. If the role is small, you know what youbring to Acan. You know, you know, have an impact and you knowfor writers and and producers, and they like man, we like with this guy. Thisgirl is bringing to this. You know to this to this character. Less you know,let's write something else for him: Let's see what else they can do. Youknow I'm saying and that's just being prepared, taking taking the opportunityseason the moment and you know, being professional going in there and Doiwhat you need to do: Yeahit' still and yeah. So I know you got a lot morescreen time and season to so. I know it's only been out on Netfix for acouple weeks now, but have you been getting more like followers like moretop man? Oh Man, it's been it's been. It's been amazing. It's been humbling,it's the blessing man. You know to, like I said, with the fan.Fair Thi show Wer in a Dan Age to where you know youSTOMI can see ou on TV. They look for the credit, so they can google. Theshow find your name find your Isthegran, your facebook or whatever. So you knowman, it's been crazy, like I've gained, in least maybe six to eight thousandfollowers. Since thence, it's released man and it's still continuing to grow.You know I try to answer as many DMS as possible because it just the type ofperson I am, and you know I'm saying I want to engage and stay connected topeople, because you know they took the time out to watch the show and theyappreciate the character man. So I definitely just want to recipocate thatlove and that energy back, you know, being a veteran. I know a lot of theactors are young on the set of all America, yeah notice, some of them thatwas like kind of like their first big roll. Like did you help them out? No Man, because you know theythey'vehad at least half a season under the bit fore. I came in so you know:Everybody's don'te man, Daniel Esra, is amazing, Michael, you know Greta Breezy,like all of them, Krima Tay, you know they're all amazing actors, man and you know they. You know when I came init was it was like a pretty much a will royal machine. It was just like youknow. How can I assert myself in and be a part of this well loiled machine manso now and what about? How do you get into like character like what's yourprocess or like what is there like? You have any superstitions or anything likethat? No Man, not not not too many, not not superstitions man, it's just youknow. I think it's just part of the the teachings and the studying not doneunder. You know, Susan Batson of just you know it's it's layers. It's layers is creating acharacter and because I'm born an raised, alonf secangles California- andyou know- I grew up in South Central Aus, Los Angeles as well inwood. Youknow where I grew up in neighborhoods, where they were game members and Iplayed football with some of them and you know so for me. It's just taking situal relations in my life, actualexperiences in my life and people that I've encountered and you know,observing and seeing you know how they move d and their story and then reallyincorporating it into this character. Man. So you know, I know a bunch ofpreaches. I know a bunch of preachers. You know I'm saying so it wasn't hardfor me to you know tap into that character, because I grew up around. UBunch of preaches...

...yeah. Do you go back and watch it likewatch the season, yeah yeah yeah. I definitely watch I watchd the episode, I'm one of those actors I like to watchmyself and I crutitue you know I'm saying I'm not one of those like all. Ican't stand and see myself now it's like it's like a basketball,playoff football player. They always watch tapet themselves. You know whatcan improve on what can they get better in what you know what choices I couldhave made in this scene or things that nature? So you know you know, I watchit like gang tape. I pretty much watchit like gay tape, and what about, I think, did you guysget renewed for season three yeah yeah, so we definitely got renewedfor season three. I think we got renewed and season three and we weren'teven done with season to yet because everybody you know like, I said the fanfair and everybody was really watching and you know so y yeah. We got renewedlike in the middle con of almost towards he end. So you know they'rewriting season three right now and you know hopefully with this coronavirussituation in the ends. Wewell we'll be back to work in July and then,hopefully you know fall. I told her. You guys start seeing season three yeah and then I also saw youwere in thelittle nazx video yeah yeah little nazacs man. It was a.It was a blessing relationships man. I know calmatic he'sa good friend of mine and I met calmatic. I want to say three years,three years prior to this through facebook, some friend of Mine Dalin. He connected me with him becausehe was looking for some actors for a project for independent project that hewas you know putting together, and you know I reached out to him and weactually had lunch because he lived around here and we end up meeting atthis spot over in the neighborhood called simply wholesome. We sat downand we just chopped it up. Man- and you know I didn't really know too muchabout Hem y new USA. You know upand coming filmmaker and we talked had a good good time we beconnected, and I want to say a couple of weeks later. I was on youtube justlooking at videos, and I saw that he did a lot of stuffwith with Kengre Glamar knowledge, who else did e work, for he did a lot of videos. Man and I waslike Yo. This dude is like he's for real for real for real man. That timehe was like Ye man, Ibout Tho, sign with this agency, and I was like okay,that's cool. I was like Yo man. If you, if you need any, you know any answers,questions whatever it is. Let me know you know, because I've been in thebusiness so long man- and you know this dude- is just like taking it to a whole,another level- manenderson pact- that's what it was. He directed a lot ofAnnersen pack, videos- and you know from that point: Oh man he hitme up was like Yo man. You know I'm doing this commercial. I was like allright cool and it was you know we did this. No, we did a ansinpack bubbling.Video was the first joint that I work with him on. So the bubbling video andI was like okay, this brother's really on his thing, and then he casting mefor cricket wireless commercial and then hehit me. He was like Yo. You want to be in this move. You want to be in hisvideo with Will Smith, and I was like Yeah Right e horse. I was like yeahbecause Ik I itas like all right, I'm gg the detail. So just I'm working somethings out, because the original for the the little nizex video was supposedto be will smith? Will Smith was busy, so we couldn't do it so Chris Rock cameon board and but yeah man calmatic has definitely you know put me in someiconic stuff man, and this is definitely one of the biggest videos Iwant to say of what two thousand and Nineteen Yi think thats brokthething for mostnumber ones: Oh yeah oabsolutely. So absolutely so definitely a big shoutout to the calmatic man and you know thatr brother's, doing amazing work. SoI was, I was honor to be a part of that I was able to ride a horse and you knowit was Ohman that the first time you ever wrote a horse. No, no! I wasactually maybe my third third or fourth time, but before we shot the video itwas like Yo you got to go to riding class, so I was like all right sure, noproblem. I was like no problem, so...

I was able to you know, have somelessons man before I got on set when I got on set, they put me in my cowboygear. I was already licked in the character. Man, man, that's crazy. So a lot of thesethings that I've seen that you've been in, like I seen the stuff, but now I'mgonna have to go back and look and find you on them. Yeah, AH yeah, the BUBBLIN video man is t thefirst, the first jint that I dial with calmatic man is when a enderson pack is gambling and herols the dice and I come up and I have a I have a du Rag on and I'm like. OhMa, UST, crazy, wayyou, CA, m money and then we chase after hem, so so yeah man,a bubbling videos crazy, like a lot of people, understand that video visuallyis just crazy, dude and then, oh going back to remember.You said you had another story for me. I don't know if you remember Oh yeahyeah so with with all American the right, the showrunner and Catchecordl. She is the showrunner of the show and the Lee writer and me and theNK work together on bones. I did an episode of bones, which is probably oneof my. As far as people say: proudest moments, television wise isbone and because I played this kid fromSierre Liong, who was a ppt who was accused of murdering his best friend,and that script was in case first script for TV. So here we go full circle, come backshe's the show Runnin for all American and she's running the show, and youknow, we've worked together and then another writer on the show Janie Turnerwe met. When I did the shield. I did the shield. I did three seasons of theshield and Jamie Turner work on that. So I've been I've known, Janmy Turnerfor ten plus years and, like I said, working with Nk, I work with her onbones and they're, both on the show. So when they you know were when preach was the character was forme.They both had me in mind, but they didn't tell each other. They was like.Oh, I got somebody whowould be good for this role, prest Hess, like yeah. I gotsomebody that o'ld be good for this role too, but they never said my name Antil. That was just like he was likeyou. I got this guy he's grace from La and Jamil was like yeah. I work withhim. His name is Koreem and she was like. Oh my God, that's wha I wasthinking of to so you know it was divine man, it was divine Dudan and Iwas I was A. I was a fan of the show before I got on it because yeah, because mine was the opposite. Igot bust, so I went to predamly white school and then I transferred to apredominantly black and Latino school dorsy high school. At that time it wasa powerhouse, an football. We were in sports illustrator at that time. Man-and so I connected very quick to that story and a to the showceman so to be able toget on that show, was a blessing, and then you know Lea Daniels Butler castand me brought me in, and you know, hey the rest of his history. Man and herbrother is Lee Daniels. Who you know is a big time director man, so you knowtiy shot out to lead Daniels Butler, for you know, definitely bring me in yall about connections yeah there. It is there, it is man, you do good work. Youshow up on time, you're nice to people, you know aword travels man and peoplewant to work with you for sure. What advice would you give to a young up andcoming actress or actor actress or actor yeah? You know. Definitely, study ha craftknow that this is something then really knowing your heart. If this issomething that you want to do and really dedicated, you know always tellpeople this desent words that I live by. I'm saying you know you treat yourcareer like a bank account, you treat your crap your craft, like a bankaccount the more you deposit into that bank account the greater your return isgoing to be so whatever you love put as much effort put as much as much effortlove into that craft and then that craft an return, wil reward you youknow what you put in is what you get out of it. You know so definitely studythe craft. If you have some greats people that you admire, study theirwork, look at their films. You know I'm saying and really that's just how Kobewas whith Michael Jordan, he stuadied Jordan and he became up. You know I'msaying he became cove, but you can see there Wan dits and pieces of Georga'sgame in Kobe's game. You know spane thing as an actor. You know study thosepeople that you look up to that. You...

...like, and you know, take bits andpieces and incorporated it to yours. Man and you know I guarantee what youput in is what you get out. EAND for sure. That's definitely greatadvice. You ready for some fun. Questions areGoin to go from haverage O savage yeah. Let's go average to savage. Let's go.Oh Ets, get into it what your whty? U Favorite Song Right! Now my fate OL man, that's who that's a togoing, do thats. He started off wit, it Goit; okay, okay, all right man, my favorite song will probably be JaeElectronica, never ending story, okay, with Jaz righ. Now Afte Jlek,album yeah. That's that's what I'm bumping. I have O Business Yeah. That'sI'M gonna check it out because people been talking about. Oh, my goodness, Jalectronic is A. I heard. Both I heard ire people that didn't like it. I havepeople I like it. Man, listen, listen, listen, those who don't like it Theyrlistenait, not the do lyrically and what he's talking about and then youhave a Adon of jz on there come on man, so yeah, never a Thi story, JILECTRONICA IN JZ! Okay! What about what movie? Would youwant to be in? That's already been out or is AGOFOR v? Show man you good Paul Man, TV show. I was just I wasst. I was just I wasokay here we go TV show. I Love Sitcom, three cat Amer half hour. I, like the neighborhood with said it.The entertainer that show was pretty funny. I like that, show I'm trying to think TV show yeah movie right now h an this is good Paulan! You you goodwith this one man. This is good and it's it's a few of them, but I wouldsay what movie I would. What I would haveloved to be in is when they see US N. is that everdoing a that? No that's on that was tha was athink. It was Netflix yeah. It was Netflit, Netflix yeah. Let me go back. My TV show hord oninsecure Ho. Yes, yes, insecure Heo and the movie when they see us. Yes,allright. How about this? Do you think I wrote down questions for thisinterview or no, you probably did because you doing yourhome owork. I didn't writ that. I didn't write down any questions. Oh Man,you Gi pal, you God may e Lizyou good hapte. You got a future in this man, I'm about Dor. Well, I probably didovera hundred now but episode R Yeah Li Itas. Only like the third video episodeI did so far, though. Okay, listen every time you do it, yougo get better, is facing man just know that Don so so I reason why I asked you. I justwant to see what you said and because my first one I ever did, I didn't writeany questions because I wanted to be like conversation then I was like yeahabsolutely ind of need to know. So I start right questions, but then theyjust started getting like boring. Because then I want to talk to themwhen they said the answer. So now s Loklike, I'm not riting, I'm just doingmy research. Remember in it and then there it questions or I'm just likelooking at like what movies and stuff you've been in and TV shows like yeahyeah there you go there, you go there. It is here it is what about? What'syour let's say top five favorite movies top five boys in the hood got a beingthere in a side, question anaside question: When you watch moviesor TV, do you watch it differently than you think you watch it? Yes, yes yeahalways. I can't like be on sad in e whole lot. I, like I,don't watch it like the average person. I I look at like shots and you know I'm saying Kinnuity Ytelyou, you H to tell your mind sometime to belike no just watch as like a exactly...

...yeah yeah yeah exactly, but you know Imay look at certain things, a different cut or whatever so yeah.It's crazy. Like yeah! That's that's! That's how I'm Qich! That's how I watchthat's how I watch TV and that's how I watch films now. So it's very it's veryvery hard for me to do that. So sorry, so you got boysoceans l, woysn boys in thehood all the oceans movies. What else man is so many dude is so many soldier story. I did I really like the great debaters, Gran Treno man like Panther. How many is that it'slike Thatwas Fun, you got ill, Go Onan order on thirs, somany like I just ote, AE, Lik e otifed top one hundred movies, Igorigt exacty,yeah, itis, crazy, Beo, just off the top Yo yeah those. What about what doyou like doing your free time? I love to work out. You know also to am part of foundationcalled my friends house, where we feed the homeless every Wednesday. I've been doing that for about eightyears. So definitely in my free time I lovegiving back love working out. You know definitely go to you know a movie yeah yeah. That's tell me about face pop, Oh yeah man, soI actually have a APP with my Buddy Bervicdaculos jerom henry were non technical founders. W came upwith the idea we bet on ourselves and we are in the apple appstore man soface pop. Is it allows you to create self madimogees featuring your face? Soit's not an Avatar. It's not a you know. Cartoon is your actual face, so this iswhat it looks like. Okay, that's my face right. So if yousend me a Tex, I can sind. Let me turn it up. I can send a face pop, so you can actually take your phonerecord seven seconds and then send it in a text. So the he our IP is. We canjust take just your head and extract the background, so it looks like like afloating hit, so my how what I you know always have a debabe wite my m partnerbird, but remember the tribe, call quest midnight, maraudamidnight,marauders marider's, album wer had all the rappers heads on there. No that'swhat tit came: yeah, you're, a young guy matter of fact, greate album greatalbum to listen to introduction to hip hop great album, but they had a bunchof rappers heads on there and I was like man otofl be dope if they can talkyeah, you know I'm saying, and you know from there on. I was my input and youknow we went on and made it happen. So it's in the apple store right now. It'sfree we're only in the apple store because we're trying to raise morefunding right now. So we can get it into the android store, but you knowit's you. Can you know seven seconds to say Happy Birthday, I love you talksmack to your friends, especially if you're a Gamer, you want to say stuff,send it off and the whole nine. So it's in apple stores face pop face pop allone word and yeah man yeah. I have to check it out and La Absolutely Ashan. Ialways I always askd the people. The last question, my guest. What question would you want to ask meso I have to ask you question yeah, Paul a I pause. So what made you want to start a podcast,...

...a good question? So yes, so I had mybrand PG sports. I made a lot of connections through athletes that workwith and shot a lot of connections, and I waslike how do I use them more, and so I was like an I like to listen to podcastnterviews, so I created a podcast by named to average savage, so I can haveguys on like you instead of Tisports Gosi Olon. I want to do everything likeI did entrepreneurs. I did artist authors, okay, okay, founders, that's was cool, so PP,so PG, here's another question, so p sports. What is hat about? How did thatget started? What made you get? What made you start that like? What made youGon Tan Entrepreneurship Yeah for sure, so I was nineteen and college I createdjust as a twitter page btween about sports, and then I made t shirts gavehim out to people just proote the twitter and then so I, like everyone,liked the shirts and then I came up with a slogan everywhere and anywheremade those shirts. Just I was doing I guess, influence Ar Marketing forinfluencir marking starte. I was just like Messain reading knoying, knowingthe shit out of athletes like to wear it, sent it to him like that's Wer, butask for a picture or if they wultn't, if they want to tweet it out orsomething I would just be. You just send me the picture then, like I'll putit out. I don't care right from there right and I just started getting moreinto that, and now I do pretty much everythingfrom media making websites, social media stuff and now I'm working withathletes to help them build their brands and like sports marking, OIoriginal goal. I want to be like a sports agent, okay, do't at one time. I wanted to bea sports agent because I used to watch arliss on HBO how he was a sports agion.I was like Ye that looks kind of fun, but it was like e, but the other thingthat I found out kind of more recently is like a lot ofpeople, don't like the agents yeah. So it's like. So that's. Why,like I'm on the marketing side, so like it's now, I'm like right, yy, becauseLik, oh you get the you get the cool stuff for the person, yeah yeah yeah, I mean peout. You knowwhat hey the agent the agent the agent as far as looking at agensis. Changingyou got rich Paul, I'm saying is young brother man is you know who's reallyabout e, the thest athletes and his clients? You know I mean so as dot man, so that's what I do too.It's just like some. Some athletes I work with is just like they're, liketext on me to just do random things like yo o, you download, I video for me.Oh, could you you? Could you help me set up like a new page for my business,Bal AAH like just random stuff like that Ni? Well, well, with what whatathletes have you worked for so one we'rke with this rename onGomery s in the wnba okay, whuson champion, I work with a lot of boxersin them and may fighters. Okay, I don't know if you ever head of Chad, JawsonYeah, a n yeah, so he's actually I'm frm, so I'm from Connecticut e's fromnew, even so, okay from towns right near each other, okay owor with athletes like that one ufcfiher, I don't know Marlin oricehe's like yeahyeah. I think I've heard of yeah he's actually rink like numberone right now. Even tnow he's lost the title fight but he's still rite numberone for Badom wits right now. Don' don't man I've been I've been to Nfield,Connecticut, okay, one of my jobs. I was a brand ambassador and we had to goto Lego, Oifi, Connecticut S, to Thelego the lego campus, which wassuper duper cool man, but what people say Connecticut, I'm like Youalwas inin Field Connecticut. I don't think I ever been there and eyomabeside the present being a couple of blocksaway from the Lego. The lego campus, everything else I good. I got one last ask for you. If you cul,do it or noht? Do it you not to commit? Could you get into character, preachand introduce me that I'm Intereste that I'minterviewing you, I paused Paul Gorano, Gor, Lio yeyor inyou know this prereach and man. Paul Greeno is it's about Tho interview e, so I saigest Yha, campion and 'll support this brother becausehe's doing big things and We'e Gointo. Keep this thing rolling like that man,big, shut out to my Guy Paul Ogrino average to savage that's what it'sabout man at's, what we doing out any streets man as a great thatas good that was doating s funny tobecause I had you know who cush poppy is on social media yeah. I had him onand I was like Yo. Could you do like a...

...quick rent? UHHUH OT put him on thespon a he was just like. He was like, Oh man. I N he's like Ican't like I m not used to, but he's not like an actor like. Remember,that's going back right, O your yeah and then you were just like Yo allrighthold up, and then you did itthat's the instagram versus the thereal it is Ehitis man. It is Doy just tap in n. You was in you te tall. We definitely got free freepreach, t shirts online for sale, and you know anybody that orders. Idefinitely sign it for him and you know they had. They have keyt sake for partof the show kind, cool yeah, it's so recording child I'll edit. It throwbackin yeah, it is there, it is ma. Indeed, Y''all can go to black bhcom and orderthe the free preach tshirts or, like I say you can follow me on instagram. I'malways posting up t the site on there. You know you play somewoter and I will definitely sign it preach all American Korean grinds. Hereit is oh yeah. Is there anything any other upand coming stuff, that'sgetting released with you and yeah, so I have A. I have a movie out right now,that's on apple and Amazon is called Shepherd and it's a thriller pay this school teacher, Mr Duire. So you know if you're you know,everybody's home, you can definitely check it out ass on Emma time and it'son apple and it's called shepherd and it's a thriller. So you know definitelycheck that out. You see another side of well, I appreciate you coming on andcould you let the listeners know where they coand follow you at yeah man? Thisis a Corean groymes and you can follow me on instagram facebook, snapchat, Kar, Eema, Geri, mes all across the board. Absolutely man! Indeed, man, I appreciate your brotherhave a blessom you to see Yep.

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