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Keith Berry | Average to Savage EP166

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This is the one hundred and sixty-sixth episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring MMA fighter Keith Berry. Paul Guarino talked with Keith Berry discussing his MMA career, getting into NFTs, and what's next for him.  

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Keith Berry was originally recorded on January 20, 2021

This is the average to savage podcast with Paul Greno everyone in anyone, athletes, celebs and much more. This episode is powered by Meta fans. Meta fans is an NFT project for all the sports lovers. You know why you should get Meta fans? You know why you should get it because it got the ultimate utility. What is utility? It's the perks of having the NFT. You thought about getting nft right, probably. So this is the one to get for sports lovers. You know why? Because free ticket GIVEAWAYS, free in real life events. They're going to be doing cash prizes for fantasy sports and all that good stuff, pickums and all that. You love fantasy sports. I know it, right. Yeah, okay. So then you're going to go to the website metafanscom. You're going to mint it for point zero eight. You're going to buy it. That's what mint means. You're going to buy it. Right. Points are right around two hundred and fifty, right to D and fifty. You get all that. They just had a super bowl party at Wrigley field. They rented out the whole stadium. It was nuts. It's crazy, it's lit. They're doing all these good things. I think personally, it's one of the most slept on projects. It's all about the perks. You guys think it's just a jpeg. This is what you get when you get a Jpeg, you know. Go check it out. Metafanscom, M E T A F A N Scom. Metafanscom. Go Mint it. If you mint one, tag me in it at PCG seven, tag me average, tag me PG, sports, whatever. Tag Meta fans, obviously, tag me to and see what happens. Maybe you'll get another maybe you get another perk. Who knows? Never O, check it out, Meta fans. What's up everybody? Welcome back to another episode the average savage podcast. Or special guests today is Keith. Barry. Keith, how's it going? Hey, it's going great, man, thank you for having me on. I really appreciate it. I appreciate your something coming on. Yeah, glad, glad. We connected on twitter. That's how I've been meeting a lot of New People. So it's dope to just get the people on. And I'm a big sportsman. I work in sports to so I wanted to get you onto tour into sports and N FT's, knowing that you're an MMA futter. Just tell me a little bit back around about yourself and how did you get into mixed martial arts? I grew up in Marietta, California and just as a child that was my mom was a single mother, and I just got into a lot of shit and I got into a lot of fights when I was like fourteen, fifteen, and my wrestling coach in high school just said, you know what, man, if you're a real man, you'll do it in the ring and I started getting more in Ji Jitsu and just like kind of like really respecting martial arts and then when I was eighteen I turned pro. I found like a manager and had some amateur fights and yeah, yeah, that was back in two thousand and five and I fought all the way up to about two thousand and fifteen. I got suspended for actually smoking weed and then came back and I fought for Bellatork for a couple weeks covid hit. So I've really I've taken it like two years off from covid but yeah, I'm looking to still finish my career in the year and get some more fights. I think I'm on a to know, I'm on a three fight one straight right now. So yeah, yeah, I'm but I've added myself to the NFT kid just because I've been super and NFT's lately and just like geeking out on a hardcore basically, just to be honest about it. Yeah, for sure. And Yeah, just going back into the MMAKER, like I know you just said you got to spend for like smoking and things like that, but like how and how crazy is it now that it's like kind of like normalize and it's not like frowned upon them? Yeah, so it was a weird transition. So I saw that right. So I saw they were like totally and there weren't totally against it. I feel like no one really cared, but kind of they usually like just don't test for that. I don't know it was a specific test. Somebody might have just knew I was smoking or something. So then I kind of saw that transition over a year and then when I came back after I fought, after I my year off or whatever, and then it...

...became legal during that year. I came back and I smoked in the crowd after my fight and the commission didn't even care. They didn't care. They like, we're happy for me, and it was just funny. So I feel like a lot has changed. There's like a certain amount of metabolites that are allowed in your system. So basically they just don't want you to be high during the fight. You can, you could smoke recreationally, you know, for recovery, for you know, just just for fun, if you want whatever, but as long as you're not high during the fight, is where they've kind of told us they don't want. So that's why there's a certain amount of metabolites that basically, if you test over a hundred and fifty metabolites, I think then that you're basically high within the last like ten hours. So gotcha. Yeah, and then what was it like just coming up in the rinks? I know you've fought for a lot of organizations and obviously you fell for like big ones like strike, for some belt or so. What was that whole experience like? And I know you're a veteran. You got like what are you like thirty four fights, thirty two something something like. But yeah, I had I started off in like K in the cage, a smaller organization, really popular like your I favor came from Kema Cage, Quinton, rampage, Jackson. So I kind of came from that. I won the belt there. I had a lot of like good, I like real good start, I feel like, in my mma career and then I just got into some injuries. I'm kind of the type that I just accepted all fights and even if I was injured or whatever. And Yeah, so I've had my ups and downs, ups and downs, and I thought, everywhere. So I feel like I have a lot of experience now in my body still really good shape and I just want to like end my career in the UFC get a couple more there's been a lot of people that I've assumed the UFC lately in the last couple of years that I've trained side by side with and I feel like I match up really well against some of these guys. So, yeah, I'm just I feel like this is my year. I made a little money in crypto and a little money and doze, so now I can kind of focus a little more on training, a little more on just like recovery. Yeah, it's hard when you're fighting and you're trying to work another job and try to support yourself and then try to get sponsors and then you're paying your manager, you're paying all these things. It's if you're not at the very top and the UFC it's hard to really make a good living being a fighter, you know. Yeah, and I think that's like a big issue coming up now. I'd say, Love them or hate him, like Jake Paul keeps on calling out for that and like UFC fighters not getting paid enough. Yeah, which is interesting, obviously. I mean it's a little I feel like he's a little going, a little above the top, but like, I think he might be telling the truth a little bit too. So so what are your like your takes on that? I Jake pull man. He's a smart businessman, he really is. He's marketing of well. He's like the perfect heel. Everybody loves to hate him and he's made a lot of money from that. So, you know, I I commend them for it, you know. And that knock out, that last knockout he got over tyrone Woodley. I'm friends with tyrone and I've trained with them a lot and that was a real fucking knockout and that was solid. And, you know, much respect to Jake and everything he's doing. He's right. He's over exaggerating because that's his whole his whole gimmick. You know, he's just so exaggeratory with everything. So yeah, he's doing a good job. He's bringing awareness to it. On the on the flip side, I like Dana White a lot. He's always like take care of me, even when I wasn't with the UFC. He's giving me tickets and done certain things and, you know, I think he's just a really cool guy. He kind of does take care of people that he's done business with for a long time. So yeah, I think they're both they're both fucking...

...cool guys. But Jake is he's is bringing some awareness to it. So it's I think it's healthy. I think it's good for the sport. So yeah, no, definitely. Yeah, I think that's the other thing, like faint, like I don't think fans realize like a lot of guys do have second jobs. Yeah, for sure, that's like a like a big like, like you were just saying, like training, going a job, training like that's a lot for somebody in general, and then to perform at your best and things like that. But I also saw you were on the the Chuck Linnell t DOORTI's three card. So what was that like to be on a card? Like that. See something like that. I'll give you a little background on that guy. I would actually like to fight that guy again. That that was. He was a really respectable opponent. He was in the ultimate fighter, really tough guy. I was getting ready for bare knuckle boxing and I was like, I've been training for Baar Kuckle boxing for like three months and then two opponents fell out and then they didn't want to pay for my flight, so I ended up just like pulling out of the fight and then a week later I got a call from Oscar Delahoya's like management and they were saying they're putting on a fight and they need somebody last minute, and so it was like one of those things and I almost knocked the guy. I really gave him some good shots in the beginning and took me down and he got me in a rum naked choke, I believe. But yeah, something like that. It's just kind of like the story of my career, where I was training for something else and I saw it opportunity and I kind of need the money and you know, Shit happens. But now I'm training, I'm training a lot, do my Shitsu, doing everything to my cardio. I'm eaten good. I mean I have more time than I've ever had, so it's really nice. So I expect my performance, you know, go up. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, now you seem like a humble, nice guy. Do you turn on a different switch when you get in the cage? For sure. Yeah, people say, like don't like fight with anger and shit, but yeah, I better when I'm a little like. I mean, it's a fight, you know, I came up street fighting, even though no, whether, no matter how you want to put it, it's a fight. I know we're professional fighters. Were being professional, but when I do get in the cage, I don't like to like the person. I decided to like smash on them and get my game plan done and went so, yeah, but I but I do respect another fighter. I know we're doing the same thing. He's going through a lot of stuff in his life, I'm sure, and it to be worries at. So I always respect who I'm fighting, you know. Yeah, now, for sure. Now, just I know you're into NFT's big, intense's. That's how I linked up with you. So tell me about how you got into nfts and and when was it I got into NFT's? It was probably it wasn't even a year ago. Is like probably nine months ago. I heard about it from a friend on twitter. I was on I was in a doze. Originally, back like two thousand and nineteen, I picked up some just from a friend telling me about it and then I came back on twitter and like two thousand and twenty and just kind of like building up. And then last year everything kind of like blew up with does and everything, and then I kind of like saw some other people getting into NFT's and then I'm like, I've heard about what they were, you know, but I wasn't really sure and I just like went deep on Gary v Videos and just like explanations of what they are, and now I kind of have like my own like explanation what I tell people they are. I tell different people different things actually, because it's like it's kind of, you know, you're pitching to your audience, right. So some the MI I just...

...tell them a very basic way and then some people that are a little more advanced, I feel like I tell them like another way. But yeah, I definitely feel you on that, because I like the basic things I just tell people. It's just like yeah, it's like digital sports cards, if you could picture that, I guess, like just in the simplest way simple. But now just getting into it and you know, and you know a lot of people are kind of contact me like asking me to make projects or whatever or like them make it, helping them make problem. Like it's way harder than you think, like it's like a whole business if you start a big project, like a Tenzero, eight thousand projects, something like that. Yeah, no, people have said the standing to me and Tis a lot of time and you want like a good team, maybe like a five well that really know what they've done and maybe have done a project already that's been successful, not just like everyone's just trying it for the first time and just hope all going to work. You know, I've just seen different projects sell different ways to and market different ways, and there's a way to market things really smart and like really use your money sparingly, which I think they should, and then as much organic growth as you can, you know, and then, yeah, I mean there's a there's a thousand. People talk about this a lot to me and I if I'm really gonna make a project, I would want to make it with somebody in real life. That's an artist that wants to get into NFT's that's interested. So then I'm like, all right, well then here's a real artist from the real world. I'm taken into NFTS and I'm going to kind of introduce them to the world and then find somebody that's a really good developer or to build out a contract that's not a fucking rug pool, that's a really solid contract for the holders, for, you know, the makers everything, for the creators. So something like that. But it's like you're saying, man, it's tough. You need you need to like whole business plan right, because it's there's a money involved. There's like billions of dollars. If you sell out of Tenzero collection at like point zero, even eat or something, you know, and billions of dollars. So there should be like some real strategic planning and I know that. So that's why I haven't even tried yet. You know exact but I haven't in mind. You know, if something happens and all the but the pieces come together, then I would definitely let like I said, I would get somebody that is into nft that once to get into it and maybe it's the first project with linked with other people that have done successful projects that can like see this artist do well and the nft arena and then just like at least we have a lot of chance to win. You know. Yeah, now I think that's I think that's a great idea. Like find a dope artist that's not intentitesia and then hopefully they have a following already to so then that they're like, Oh, I'm interested, but they they probably have so much shit on their plate, like a lot that they need. They need that extra push. So out. Yeah, yeah, I already told some of my friends that are like I got one friend that's tattoo artist and I and he's like good at drawing and stuff, and I told them about it. He just he has doesn't get the concept yet, but eventually he'll see like one start like once more people start posing about it. Like I think it's the stat was like only like three percent of Americans like own an nft. You right now, so super new? Did you get like a caption that popped up on your twitter that said, like this is what an nft is, and it kind of like gives you this breakdown and they're talking about verifying and I'm t's on twitter. Did you get that? Yeah, just happened. It just happens. Yeah, so I'm like everyone's just getting this too. Like if everyone's getting that, it's kind of like people are like what's that FC even without now. So, like, I mean it's becoming mainstream, right, it's. Well, twitter is definitely the place for NFC's. It's where everyone one's that with that FC's, I feel like. So, yeah, yeah, now I like it because I feel like a lot of people have been sleeping on twitter just for years anyways, like and I...

...always thought it was a great platform. So it's dope to actually see it's getting utilized because like on Instagram, you can't really click on stuff, you know, and on twitter you could click on stuff. You go on the links and then you can find all the stuff. So yeah, and I think, like you said that that that what you just said, that's going to blow people's mind. But the nft pictures or yeah, pictures exactly. Yeah, what do you what do you think is next for just like an seas in general, like what and what projects are you looking at? Like Thatt are coming out, so what's next for them? A lot of people are getting into this metaphors stuff. I'm really like bullish on the whole metaverse, sandbox, the central and Mona all that. I'm I've wanted to buy some sandbox that it's like three point five etherium for the floor and I'm like I don't know if I could justify it to myself yet, even though I know it's a good investment, because I'm like, obviously I'm really into nfts and it's just like I don't know, I just don't know how to pick a plot and I'm like, I know axie infinity is doing a whole metaverse two and there's just a lot to choose from, right. So I have a friend that got into acting infinity really early and he made like a ton of money. I'm like Shit, man, that's I think. I feel like they're a really, really solid company. So and I feel like they're still going to do well and they're still going to go so yeah, I'm still kind of thinking about it all that. The space is just like it grows so quickly, right, so many things I hear about every day, but it's still a small community. It's still just, like you said, like only three percent of people in the world of ever like heard of that FT's. So it's there's still a lot of a lot of room to grow. Yeah, it's crazy because like last Saturday, I think I'm supposed to go out and I didn't go out, and I'm I'm happy I didn't go out, because then there's like a a whole bunch of product, like random project is just like blew up and like sold out. Yeah, it's just like nuts, like every anything could just happened. And but I have learned really, I mean not I learned this last year, but this year I'm not just going to hold all my nfts. I'm going to buy me like a little more and I'm going to flip a couple because I just see these floor like sometimes they run up and then if you don't sell and you're holding off and you just you kind of leave a lot of money on the table and it you can buy back in at the bottom again, because it happens fast. Happens in it like a day and a half. Yeah, so it's like you can't be patient and wait. So that's kind of like my new thing and I got to change my plute on my whole plan. I was like, Oh, I'm not going to sell for a whole year and just seen so many projects that I got into just like never recover from where they were. So I'm like, like I'm bullish. I still like the art is still dope, like I'm going to sell some of them, but I'm not selling because I pretty much can so, but I'm just like I'm thinking I'm a collector, I like to collect them, but I'm gonna try to make a little money too. So I feel like taking profits isn't a bad thing, and some people are just really on certain projects. Are Like if you sell, they're like, Oh, you sold. They like shame, he like, you know, selling, shame or now that's exactly what I've been figuring out. is like they shoot up after a couple days and then it just go if I like levels itself out. So I'm like the same exact way you're thinking. Like I'm like, all right, I think I'm going to try to start getting like two and then just flip one and then keep one, because some of them I do actually do like and I do think they're going to might be worth more in the long term. But like the yeah, and then it's flip is like nuts that it'll kind of save you. Then right. So yeah, for sure, for sure, even like yesterday. I haven't checked with the milk boys. One was but like right when I went, when I first got minted, it went up to like to eat, and then by the end of the day it was...

...at one minted four point seven five. So like you could have doubled your money real quick and then ball back in and still so you would have had one eath and you had a one one card. Yeah, is it? Well, this is is how you say it. Yeah, the milk boys. Yeah, was. Yeah, my buddy told me about that one. I thought that one was going to sell out so quick. How how ten minutes or something? Yeah, there's nuts. They have like a huge following, like yeah, yeah, easy, big fellow. But I that's why I was. I was interested to see how their fans converted, because I don't once again, like I don't think all these people are into nfts. So I think it was like a little of nft community and then like their fans probably just got into it yesterday like to like that's why I don't know. It's nuts, but they're also from Canada to so that's interesting to yeah, hopefully the fans was buy a bunch of the second area and then the market. I'll keep going. Yeah, what about what about sports and NFT and Crypto? Like how do you see that the like in the in the next hour, a couple of years? I know UFC just did the deal with CRYPTOCOM. Yeah, and then you know, UFC has their own NFT's. They're coming out with the whole collection and whole series with their fighters. So I don't know, I don't know how that's kind of work. So say, like someone like Shawn o'malley, he has, I don't know if you know, the crypto cannabis club CD. So he has like a specific one of one and I think he has a couple in the collection. I think he bought end of the project. So I'm like, someone like him, if they make a specific NFC for the UFC, is he going to want to rep his own out of t or is he going to rep the UFC's? I don't know. I think there's a little more like freedom because they just don't understand it, you know, the technology, and they don't understand like they don't get it, you know, but they're they they're just like down because they're like, oh, this is probably going to generate funds that it's opens up another market. They don't really have to do anything, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, with athlete and Celebrity Projects Right now, like I don't really like the ones when it's like actually them, like when if it's someone like so, say if you made it one and it was like your face, like like I rather I want it to be like a like, say, like Ozzy Osborne's comes out today, actually, like his is like cryptobats, like it's not, yeah, but it's like related to him, but not like I think those on. I think it has to be, like I said, like I has to be some kind of I don't know, pro like animal or something like that. Basically, definitely, definitely just a monkey. I cool monkey anything. I'm kind of sick of the apes, but mostly, you know, what money up is the apocalyptic apes, and I was kind of on their team a little bit, helping them, you know, markt a little bit and that ran way up and I sold a couple of them lay, but I'm glad I did, because I sold them to like to etherium, to one point five, a couple and then now the floors all the way down to like four. Even though I'm bullish on the project long term. There seemed like a cool group of guys, like, I don't know, it just seems cool. But I'm glad I did what I did right because from now I still have four it if they run back up and I'm cool. Definitely. Yeah, and I think that like that's like I think that's like one of the best artworks now. Yeah, I just like I like every right. It's just like some have like shot, like they got shot on their ear and they're like Golden. They got these face masks. They're just dope, really cool style. I just feel like people really vibed with that. And it was crazy because right before Christmas and he they were talking about burning them. They're like yeah, if you don't out, we're going to burn them. And I was like I was gonna buy like ten one night and I was like hi and I was I'm gonna buy ten more and I just didn't. I don't have the gas. I was just like worried about gas. And then the next day, I don't know, I don't know what happened, if somebody...

...bought in and then they just flew and like it was the first project that I kind of saw everything really fly like that. It was kind of cool. So I did get into the robotos like about a year when I first started, I got in robotos. So I feel like that project's been doing really well and they have some really really like I could anyone friendly. You know, it's obviously it's like a kid friendly and kind of thing, but I mean it's like it's pg right, it's for like anyone. So I really like that project to and that Guy Pablo. He's like a super charismatic guy from Mexico just like really cultured and like, I don't know, you just like want to bet on the guy because he just seems like he's going to fucking make shit happen. And I like the art. It's cool are and they have like a really strong like central community, not central, but like connected community, you know, if you all really do know each other. So yeah, yeah, I definitely didn't get one because I was not into it then, but I wish I did. You own those early because I think those ones are dope. I's ally did it. They did a Clab I think, with times to. Yeah, yeah, they have Inter Street art to in Mexico and someone downtown. So I mean they're just like, I don't know, they're cool little project. They're doing like some utility for their community. They did like a I think they have a cartoon and they have like their own metavers with their own little video game and all this stuff. So they're they're definitely like really building their project out right. Some of these products to run up, the run down and then there's like nothing else, like they're just done. They made their sold out and then they they their floor dropped and then there's just no more announcements and they're just yeah, for sure. Are you ready for some fun questions? Yeah, let's Sarah. Who are your who are your like top three fighter, your favorite fighters, like grown up top favorite? I like DON FRY lot. Don FRYs uses solid, old school. Used to wear these like American gladiator like American flag shorts and just like what people's asked in Japan. So I really liked him. I like Dan Henderson a lot. I used to train with Dan over Intermacula for years and years and I grew up in Mary. It's Michael Area. And Yeah, so I've kind of just gone between team quests and extreme coutur my whole career. So Dan Henderson dawn fry. I like Chil son and I like Chil summons personality a lot. I don't know if he's like my favorite fighter and maybe like Anderson Silva, just because I feel like in my time he was like one of the greatest of all time. You know, it's kind of like a different era now, but yeah, I feel like he's definitely one of my favorites. Yeah, for sure. What about would you ever do a boxing match? Yeah, I've done, like I've didn't like maybe six. Oh, we're are you did pro boxing? Yeah, I've done. I'm I did I was three and now, and then I started fighting some real boxers. I cut like which waiting to fight on and I lost the decision and then I got stopped twice. I went to Hollywood. I thought this guy, this undefeated boxer. He was actually one of Freddy Roaches guys. So I kind of got into it too fast, kind of like I would do with a lot of things. But no, boxing boxes a lot of fun and it's just different, you know, it's a different art. I'm probably not going to do any more boxing because I want to just concentrate on MMA and I liked Jutsu a lot and that's like an I like to box, I like to strike, but then sometimes people will try to take me down and then I have like a really quick counter Ju Jitsu game, if that makes sense, like Guillotine's Nick Chokes and triangles when people are panicked, when they're not trying to get knocked out,...

...and it's worked well for me in my career. So I'm probably gonna use that in my next couple of fights. So I'm gonna try out what I feel like. They're going to try to take me down, so I'M gonna have to use Shitsu on them. So you got to who would your dream matchup be if you if you pick like anyone, like dad or a lot to fight? Yeah, sh Um shit, that's a hard question. Um, I don't know. Maybe I've always wanted to fight Chris Lieb. It all right. So any reason why? We have like a similar style, I think, and I always thought I could beat them and I will. I watched them coming up. I'd actually like the Nice Guy. I was really a me had this like ultimate fighter. He was in the oldtimate fighter house and he drank all night and the next day they had like this workout where they ran on the treadmill for like all these miles and he ended up like beating everyone after he was drinking all night the night before that. I was like, Damn, this guy's solid. I don't know why fight them from that, but I just like, I don't know, I just think it'd be cool to fight them. That's funny. All right. Last one. What are something people don't know about? You don't know about me? I don't know. I work in the industry as well. It's like I got partnered up with a company called grow packer, so I'm like a partner in this distribution company and we have like part ten different brands. So I kind of do that on the side as well. And I train and look, I an F T's all day. So the people already know that. So what do they don't know? I don't know. Well, I love noboarding. I love the snowboard. All right, that's cool. Yeah, all right, Keith will, I appreciate you coming on, and could you have the listeners know where they can follow you at? Yeah, just my twitter. I most on twitter. I have instagram. It's all about twitter. Twitter's Ko kid nine hundred and fifty one is my at handle. But yeah, I appreciate your time. Man's.

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