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Michael Carter-Williams | Average to Savage EP146

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This is the one hundred and forty-sixth episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring Orlando Magic guard Michael Carter-Williams. Paul Guarino talked with Michael Carter-Williams discussing his basketball from Syracuse to the NBA, his love for MMA, being in the tech world with NFTs, and the importance of family to him.

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This podcast interview with Michael Carter-Williams was originally recorded on September 21, 2021

...this is the average to Savage podcast with paul Guerrino. Everyone in anyone athletes celebs and much more. What's up everybody. I'm back for another episode of the average Savage podcast. Our special guest today is Michael carter Williams, Michael, how's it going? It's going good man. Just you know, I got uh three year old and the new born so I've been pretty busy so everything is going well on my way. Yeah, for sure dad life, I appreciate you coming on the um yeah let's just go like back in time. Like what was your first memory of playing basketball? Um First memory playing basketball. It was early on I think I had my first workout and like 2nd or 3rd grade and remember go down to the Y. M. C. A. I used to go down to the local Y. M. C. A. Where I live in um just work out, you know with my stepfather and I come from a basketball family. So I've I've always been around the game. Yeah, for sure. And then just like when I always ask everybody this so I'm interested to hear your answer because what like when did you know, you were like really good. Um Honestly it was like noticed late like once I was playing against guys in college that I knew were going to go to the NBA like we're gonna be lottery picks and I could compete, you know, and like you know Dion waiters and you know even I know these guys weren't lottery picks but you know like veterans in college like jardine and Brandon Triche, you know, I was competing with those guys every day and I was on the freshman, so I was like, man, like, you know, this is what the kind of the next level is. Like, I think I'm gonna be able to, you know, make it there. I think that's kind of late. Yeah, I know I was, I was a Mcdonald's all american too, but I just was, I don't know what it was. I just didn't have the realization, you know, I always thought that like, it's weird a lot of guys, um you know, when they get to the NBA, they're like, you know, you've been watching these guys on tv your whole life, so it's kind of different to step on the floor with them. Yeah, I mean maybe also just like growing up in New England obviously,...

...you know, we're not like a powerhouse I'd say uh for things like that. Um and then, yeah, like what was your recruiting process like, and then how did you end up picking Syracuse? Um Originally I wanted to go to nova um that was the school I wanted to um go to, I took a visit there. Um they told me they were going to um finish up the recruiting the class ahead of me and then a couple of weeks later they ended up taking somebody in my class, so I was like, man, I don't want to go there anymore, they told me that, you know what I mean, that whole spiel so then I took a visit, it was a team camp at Syracuse and um you know from a high school we went um as a team and I was like man, I really love it here. Um built a relationship with coach Hopkins and in Boeheim and I loved how they had guys on staff, they used to play there as a, you know Gerry McNamara and coach Autry and um so you know, I like that aspect and I committed pretty young. I wanted to kind of get the process how to wait. Um and then just focus on high school. Yeah, for sure And then um like your first year I believe you just like came off the bench. Um and then what was that like a lot of motivation to, you know, work out and then you started all all 40 games the next year. Yeah. You know, I was yeah, that was a hard time for me my freshman year. Um I wanted to play where we had a very good team, we only had three losses that year but you know, as being a competitor, I still wanted to be out there, felt like I could help the team. So um you know, it was good for me though, it was one of the best years of my life, it's you know kind of taught me, you know to go through some adversity and um you know just to stick with it and work hard and motivating me to get up early in the mornings and you know work out and stay after practice and you know just really pushed myself. Yeah for sure. And then you left after your second year was that like a hard decision to make our easy decision? Um It was it was you know I had a lot of stuff going on at the time my house had...

...burned down um brothers family lost everything. Um This was during the N. C. A. A. Tournament. Um You know I had you know I had a really good tournament so you know I was M. V. P. In my conference so you know things were kind of a line in that way as well so I am you know the decision was kind of easy for me um what I need to do for my family and myself. Yeah. Yeah I mean that's a way to put it is I mean it's awesome way that you know you hope that you have to help your family so you got to do it um And then just going into the draft um you got drafted 11th overall? Um is that like a was that like a place that you thought was a good fit? Like did you did you know you were gonna go 11? Did you think it was too high to low? No I didn't know what I didn't know where I was going to go um you know, I think, you know, I had a good workout in phoenix, I can't remember what picked they had, it was pretty early, had a good workout that called me back um to go work out with them again, and I had another good workout with them, so I didn't know kind of where their head was at. Um you know, that's where I thought I was gonna go, it could have been more hopes than, you know, than anything um but no, I didn't know I was gonna get picked 11, I was I was nervous um you know, I kind of my head was all over the place that night and um but you know, luckily I got, you know, picked. Yeah, yeah, for sure, and then um 76ers draft you and then um you win the rookie of the year, so what, what was that like to, to be named the rookie of the year? Oh, that was that was great, you know, I knew I had a shot um you know, winning it once, I went to Philly and kind of had the opportunity to get out there and play right away. Um you know, it was it was a great, it was a great year, you know, I had ups and downs, you know, obviously went in the work of the year was, you know, unbelievable. Um you know, losing suck, but you know, I think, you know, I tried, I just did with the, you know, did the best I, you know, could give him my situation. Yeah, definitely, and I know you got to play with new Orleans Noel to your, your au teammate, what was that experience like...

...to play with them at the next level? That was the, that was cool man, That was a cool experience. Um, you know, us being drafted to the same team coming from the same au program, being friends growing up, so that was a special moment. Yeah, definitely. Um, and now I know you've been on a few different teams just like how like what's it been like just your NBA career and now, uh, you found a home basically in uh Orlando, you've been there for three seasons, four seasons. Yeah, so, you know, I've been, you know, different places, um, gained a lot of experience, learned a lot from a lot of different players, um, pretty much been in every situation you could possibly be. And so um, you know, I've definitely learned a lot going through the fire, you know, and now, you know, I found a home in Orlando, um great organization, great people, great coaches, um, you know, great staff and you know, it's really, you know, I built a home here and, you know, I love my role here and just being a leader for, you know, the guys and I'm just having good people around is, you know, amazing, you know, living in Orlando is, you know, obviously a blessing, so um you know, I'm thankful to be here, yeah, for sure what's it like going from the young guy in the locker room now, like you're the veteran with a bunch of young guys on the magic um yeah, you know, it's crazy, you know, I think this is gonna be my ninth year in the league um you know, like I said, I've been through so much and you know, guys we got a really, really young team and uh we got a lot of talent, you know, in talented guys and it's just about putting our pieces together, you know, leading them in the right direction, showing them that, you know, the right way to do things and you know, for them to, you know, be successful and you know, just to, you know, play that veteran role and be the guy that, you know, the guys look to in times of distress, so you know, just to ease their mind a little bit now, just going into like off seasons and things like that, like what, what does that look like for you? Like training was um you know, off season, I um take a...

...little, take a little break, you know, after the season, you know, travel a little bit and then um you know, I I do some alternative training, I do some ju jitsu just to get my body moving um you know, you know, I get back in the weight room and um you know, then I start, you know, getting on the court stuff and you know, really just, you know, every day, you know, doing those things and just trying to get a little bit better each summer. Yeah. How did you get into M. M. A. I've been an M. M. A. For about Probably like 12 years now. So my stepfather used to watch. Um, so, you know, I started with him um love, you know, I just grew to love it. You know, love following fighters from started their careers to the end. Um you know, I'm just a huge fan of it. Um you know, just, you know, don't miss the fan on the weekends, you know, I'm, you know, watching every fight and you know, getting in the mix with it any way I can. Are you, are you boxing fans who? Yeah, I'm a bus Venezuela. I like, you know, I like to watch boxing as well. I I would say right now I probably like may more than boxing just because I think the, no, the setup is a little bit better. You know, you kind of have to wait forever for the best boxer to fight the best boxer. Uh So, you know, I think in UFC you get all those, you know, interesting fights and you know, there's a ranking system so the best fight the best. So um I just enjoy that aspect? Yeah, I think the, I think the thing like you said kind of boxing is missing obviously like their promoters and things like that, but I think they're kind of missing like a league sort of structure, but that's how the boxers are making more than them and if so it's like, you know, give and take what? Yeah, well, I was gonna say like, what do you, what do you think about this? I've been just calling it like this celebrity boxing, like, you know, jake paul and things like that. Yeah, Yeah. You know, it's, you know, it's interesting, you know, I think like I never hate on anybody, you know, you know, trying to, trying to make money, trying to make something of ourselves, you know, who are we to tell...

Jake that he can't go out there and try to fight for his dreams. No pun intended. So, I mean, I think that, you know, I'm cool with it. I watch, you know, I, I enjoy it. I can't sit here and say, you know, I'm not cool and I go out and watch, you know, it's entertaining. It's fun. I just don't like when it starts to get, you know, like the Evander Holyfield come back when they're, you know, a little bit older and you know, I know they're making money so it's probably good for their families, but you know, health is always first. So yeah. Yeah, that was, yeah, that was just not cool to see that was um what about have you have you All right if you weren't playing basketball? Have you ever thought about like getting in the cage? Oh training is great. You know I love it. I'll train off until I die. But you know actually get in the cage. I mean before the celebrity stuff you know I would definitely say no but now it's like I'm not going in there. I'm not fighting anybody and they haven't made community find a professional boxer. Maybe if it was something else where you know the playing field was a little bit more even I would you know, step in there. So what if it was like another NBA player? Yeah no definitely I definitely that'll be that'll be cool. Yeah for sure. And then do you think that like mm a training like how do you think that helps you with basketball? Um I think especially jiu jitsu you know it's always thinking while moving and um you know definitely how it's like a chess game and I think basketball is the same way basketball you know you gotta think slow but move fast and I think the agency was kind of the same way. Um you know so it helps, you know helps that way helps you get your body moving from you know taking you know time off which I you know do a little bit so um Yeah I think I think it helps in that and then actually just, just gets my mom moving? Really? Yeah. And then this season, like what are your expectations for the magic? Um Like I said, we've got a young team, so it's hard to put real high expectations, you know, on the team, you know, obviously we're gonna go out there and compete every night, you know, we want to make the playoffs, you know,...

...um you know, I think, you know, that that that's the goal for us right now is, you know, first get healthy, everybody get healthy and then, you know, you know, for we got we have to former uh what's the word, not tradition, but camaraderie. Yeah, like, you know, camaraderie or um identity for, you know, kind of who we are, you know, how we're gonna play. Um and obviously that starts with us, older guys. Um so, you know, I think those are the expectations for us to, you know, set goals for ourselves, you know, you know, you know, making the, you know, the finals or, you know, making the, you know, Eastern Conference finals is, you know, a little bit over our heads right now. Um I think we got to take the steps and and and really build and and really find our identity before we can do those things. And if we don't then, you know, i if we do, I I really think, you know, in in some time, you know, those things are possible. Yeah, yeah, for sure. What about like since you entered the league, like what's what's like most changed about the NBA since you've been in the league practice, I think that, you know, there's so much now about taking care of your body and you know, limiting your practice time because we have so many games. When I first got the lead, We were practicing every day all day. You know, I remember having 20 minutes to spare and I was napping for 15 so definitely practiced. I mean that's I mean that's good that you're less practice. Um And what advice would you give to a young athlete? Just uh you know, trying to make it like, I don't know, scholarship or like a pro league. Um I would say it's an everyday grind man. Like, you know, you got to make some sacrifice in your life. I'm not saying, you know, don't hang out with your friends or you know, don't go to prom, but you know, at some point you got to make a sacrifice and you know, it's it's a daily grind. You got to do something every day to get better. Um You know, it just takes real hard work...

...and spending time in the gym. Yeah, for sure. All right. You ready for some fun questions. Yeah, let's do it. All right. What do you what do you like to do in your free time? Oh as you know, I'm an mm. Hey guys so I like to move some judge it too. I love you know hanging out with my kids swimming in the pool and the beach guy so I love going to the beach. Oh yeah actually I was gonna ask you like how how is fatherhood changed you? Um Man it's it's changed me a lot. I saw some of your instagram post that's why I had to ask you every every every every decision I make. You know it's about the kids now it's not only about me you know things are you know I feel like I'm more diligent in the time I spend away from them just because you know I don't have time to you know to relax and hang out you know whatever I gotta do you know whatever I'm focusing on is the task at hand. Really? Yeah for sure. Um But what's uh what's something people don't know about you? Mm It's a good question. Um I don't know how people perceive me and I I don't really know I I love joking around you know I'm always I'm a big fan of never letting the old man creeping like I I just I'm always joking I'm always you know you know I can hang out with you know you know pretty much whoever and get along with I don't know. Yeah for sure. Oh yeah I know you're into crypto a lot too and you have your own N. F. T. Company so tell me about that. Yeah I'm definitely big into the Kryptonian FT world. Um Got a little company going called defi Cryptocurrency actions. And while we're doing a lot of different projects with a lot of different companies and doing some crypto projects, doing some N. F. T. Projects. So we got some some big things coming, you got a couple of a couple of teammates with me, I got Gary Harris, he's with us talking a few other guys as well so it's gonna be uh it's gonna be fun. Yeah you made some of your own right.

I have it so I am I'm in the process from the process of making me phone having our old ft driver. Yeah so I actually made a couple this, I don't even know a couple months ago just because like everyone is doing it and I was just so basically I like hats made an intuitive entity so it was it was interesting um And then I saw it also I know you have your au team. Um So what what where is that at? And tell me about that. Yeah so it's called the M. C. W. Stars. Um My mother and I run it um We got about 20 teams total about 15 girls and five boys. Five or six boys teams and um we were out in New England um You know it's you know it's grown so much, we compete out of we compete at all the best tournaments in in in in the U. S. And we do well you know we've been some really really good programs and it's been great to see the girls go off to college and you know my my mom is a great job in helping out um you know a lot of kids get into college you know it's a different process you know when you're a division to division three player even even low division one sometimes it's a different process of you know get into college and you know what you need to do and how to you know sending film taping and you know it's a lot different than the you know kind of than the boys so um she's done a you know a great job of that and um yeah it's been it's been great, it's been definitely been successful. Yeah I mean that's one thing I think that that's cool that you're doing that you're both you're doing girls and boys um like what do you what do you do you like to watch like W. N. B. A. Um I don't watch a ton of W. N. B. A. To be honest um you know I catch some games here and there um I definitely I'm a big supporter of the W. N. B. A. Um you know um you know that's a huge reason as to why I have the girls program uh you know I I really think that young girls need to you know they should be able to interact with um girls in the W. N. B. A. Or NBA more. Um You know I think it's a you know pretty well established thing you see high school...

...kids all around NBA players nowadays and you know just trying to help bridge that gap between you know girls and in the W. N. B. A. Players and kind of bringing that you know they have more attention and get and have them get the attention that they deserve. I just thought of this question, would you ever want to be like a W. NBA owner? Um I don't know. I don't know. I don't I don't know it's not to say it's not possible. I just don't know if that's in my in the deck of cards for me you know at this point but you know things always change. You don't know where your life is going to be you know And for five years. Yeah for sure. And then back to the fun questions. I know we got off, we got off track a little bit uh what's your what's your favorite like cheap meal? Favorite cheap meal. I love burgers. So definitely any anything you know big burgers. I'm good with some bacon on it. Can't go wrong And then why why do you wear number 7? Um I wore number seven I 10 was already taken when I was there, 10 is 10 has always been a number. I'm born on october 10th, so 10 10. Um but I wear seven. Um I like the number seven. Um you know, it's It's got the number one. so you know that I was a you know, kind of kind of a cool thing, you know, when I picked the number, I was kind of you know, going through, you know, a little something and kind of became closer to God. So, you know, I think it was all, you know, ironic in that, in that sense. Um You know, like it looks cool, you know Michael Vick when he was young, when I was younger, you know, so seven is actually my favorite number? Uh you are you a jersey guy or you like a sneaker head? Um I used to be more of a sneaker head. I used to be more of a sneaker head. Especially when I was signed with Nike, you know, having all, getting all the free jordans and all that. Um You know, I just I don't know, grew out of it a little bit. You matured your dad now,...

...dad shoes just buy whatever and you know, maybe my kids would be a sneaker head. Maybe they both don't know. All right, so my question is gonna be So what what are like three jerseys that you want that you don't own three jerseys that I want, that. I don't own um I like you know I'm a big fan of you know obviously love to watch football. Um bo Jackson's jersey would be dope. Um walter Payton bear jersey would be dope. And I would have to probably go barry Sanders, detroiters will be go to. So those three Yeah definitely three legends right there and then the last one who is who's been your favorite teammate in the N. B. A. Favorite teammate man. And I've had so many good teammates man um gun in my head, I gotta pick one probably honest. Um you know it was his second, it was both of our second years. We were playing together both young didn't know much about the league coming in and um just building that relationship with him you know throughout all the years and I'm staying in touch. Um and you know it's just funny to see you know kind of where he came from and where he is now, you know, not even just the basketball aspect, just you know him speaking english, you know just everything is kind of you know he's a great great dude, you know he's so probably is probably my favorite. Yeah I mean he was also a lot smaller too when you played with him. Yeah, I got to be pretty crazy. Yeah it's cool though. It's cool to see all the hard work you put in every day and you know they're trying to get where he is, he's at now for sure. Well my God appreciate you coming on and you have the listeners over. I could follow you on social media, appreciate it if all of my instagram, I'm carter Williams, same thing on twitter, so, um, I appreciate it. Thank you guys for having me. I appreciate it, yeah.

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