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Mike Hill | Average To Savage EP119

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This is the one hundred and nineteenth episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring broadcaster Mike Hill. Paul Guarino talked with Mike Hill discussing his journey in the military, sports broadcasting at ESPN and Fox Sports, and his new book "Open Mike".

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This podcast interview with Mike Hill was originally recorded on March 4, 2021

This is the average to savage podcast with Paul Guerrino. Everyone in anyone athletes, celebs and much more. What's up, everybody? I'm back for another episode of the average savage podcast. Our special guest today is Mike Hill. Mike, how's it going? Good. What's up, man? How are you feeling, brother? Doing good. I appreciate you coming on. I know. We've been trying to get it done for a couple weeks now. I know. I know. I'm sorry about that, man. Just life has been hectic. Uh, that's a good thing. Been busy. So, uh, you know, finally got around to it. And, uh, thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And you mentioned being busy. I know you've got a lot going on, and I saw you came out with a new book. You're a new network. You're starting with a couple other people. Um, how's all that going? And just like, how did you end up doing all that? Like through the pandemic? It's been just crazy, man. It's been God and this will, you know, always getting praised to him. But book came about Just been something I've been thinking about for a long time. I actually started writing about four years ago, and it just kind of came out. It was because I needed to come out. So a lot of therapy that was involved became very therapeutic. So that was good. And and I'm using that as to my platform to have other people help themselves when it comes to mental health and a lot of the things that really affects them in their lives and their lives of their loved ones. But the B and C, you know, that's my new network. Uh, left Fox old, and I got an opportunity to be a morning show host. That is one of the reasons why it was hard to catch up with me because, you know, schedule is freaking crazy right now, man. It's like I have to wake up at midnight. I get up at midnight and my show's on at three o'clock in the morning out here, so I'm on from three until seven in the morning, so my whole schedule is ass backwards right now, So I apologize if I start saying something, that's crazy. But my mind ain't really here right now, man. So but it's been fun. It's been great. And I'm grateful for the opportunity, man. Yeah, yeah. No, that's awesome. Um, yeah. Now, just like going from, like, the more event going to now the morning show. Like what's been the difference? Like glaring experiences being at ESPN and Fox Sports and Fox Sports and then Fox Fox, uh, soul. Yeah, it's a different mindset. I mean, it's it's similar. It's some kind of a foxhole. Kind of prepared me a little because it was a talk show. But, you know, I've been doing sports for so long, and, you know, I enjoyed the sports. I was still passionate about sports, but I felt like my voice was growing and I felt like my passions for other things outside of sports was growing. So I needed to have a different voice in the different platforms. So other than the different times and trying to get my body clock right, I mean, it's a minor adjustment. It's a challenge because it's more hard news than I've ever done before in my whole career. But at the same time, once again, it's something that I'm really passionate about because I found myself just watching hard news all the time, watching CNN a little bit of Fox and MSNBC and and just listening to it on the radio. And I'm driving around or whatever. I became that old man like your granddaddy that you should just listen to the news and watch the news all the time. You couldn't talk when Tom Brokaw came on you, too young. Remember Tom Brokaw and Peter Jennings? But they used to be the people used to listen to on ABC and NBC. For those are the people that my grandpa or or granddad I mean, when Grandma used to listen to and you can talk. So I become that personnel. Uh, and that's what I'm passionate about. And that's why I enjoy, you know, doing what I'm doing. But we also have fun on the show, so it's a mixture of everything. It's it's just gonna dream come true. Yeah, that's awesome. And then, yeah, just going back, um, to your childhood. I know you grew up in the Bronx and Alabama. Um, like what? Like, did you always want to be a broadcaster? You know, uh, not really. Not until I was in high school and I realized I suck playing sports. You know, I thought I was going to be an athlete. Like a lot of people that become sportscaster, like, Yeah, I can play sports like this. Anything going nowhere. I ain't gonna make it in the n b A. And I ain't gonna make it in college. You know what I'm saying? You know, I was okay. I was good. But I wasn't great. I was far from I was actually sometimes against the right competition. Or maybe in my case, the...

...wrong competition. I was down, right? Sorry, I I suck, You know So But I realized I love sports, and I had a passion for it, so I wanted to stay into it. So that's the reason I kind of got into journalism. And I had a uncle who was a journalist, a TV report, and I saw him doing I saw other people on television that looked like me at the time doing and I said, You know what? I kinda like that so I can kill two birds, one stone. I can still stay in sports, still have my passion and actually have a job doing something I love, man. So it's paid off. Been doing for 26 years and I'll be 20 them on February 28th. It was 26 years in the business, man. The day I got out of military 1995 was February 28 the same day I got out of military the day I got my first job in broadcasting. So it's been a blessing. It's been a real blessing over half my life. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I was gonna touch on that. So you're in the Air Force? Like what? Made you go right out of high school today? Well, my ass want rid of college? I shit. It wouldn't work out. I wouldn't I would not have lasted. You know, I didn't have the discipline to do things on my own. Now, I was a good student when I apply myself. The problem was, I wasn't disciplined enough to apply myself. And if somebody told me, Hey, you're gonna be on your own. Your mom ain't gonna wake you up in the morning. And your daddy ain't gonna do anything to make sure you get up and go to school and hold you accountable. No, I probably just gone and wasted some money. So I wasn't ready. So the reason I went into the military was, you know, I felt like Okay, I can do something. Stay there, stay disciplined, make some money. And then if I wanted to go to college, which I did later, I could do that, you know? So that was a route that I took. It was the right route. I had two cousins that I looked up to that were in the military. I saw that kind of cars they were driving. You got to understand the gig growing up in the hood. You know, you ain't got a lot of stuff. You see, your cousin's driving the right kind of cars, wearing the right kind of clothes, smelling the right kind of way with some money in their pocket. I'm like the military is for me. So that's the reason I went into the military for the first thing. But the discipline and the aspect of okay, I can make some money for college, and it works out for you. Then you know, that's what I'm gonna do. And it worked out for me. How long were you in the military? for? I was in there for six years, and then So So how old were you when you went to college? I went to college while I was in the Air Force. So the thing is, man, I was married. I got married my first year in the military. I was in the military. I had a part time job and I went to school as well on top of that, and had an internship. So I really from the age of I'd say, from the age of 19 until the age of 25. 20 When I get out of here 25 I really had no life. I didn't live my life. I didn't like that. Kind of makes me think about certain things, to be honest with you because it may, um And I'm gonna talk to my therapist about this tomorrow. Always come up with certain things. So sorry. Forgive me, but I'm talking about therapy. Maybe that's one of the reasons I was so wild because I wasn't really Even though I was married, I never really sold my oats. I never really had fun. Never really got out. You know what I mean? And then. But being married, I had a friend, obviously. And my wife or whatever. But, you know, if she wasn't around not doing anything, I was working all the time. I just you know, maybe that's one reason I don't know. I'm just kind of talk to myself right now. Like I said, I'm gonna do that from time to time because I'm sleepy, bro. But at the same time, I just kind of thought dawned on you, man. From the time I was, I sacrificed a lot. And this was a lesson for a lot of people that say they want to get into a certain business or do a certain thing. Sometimes you got to sacrifice certain things like fun, uh, in order to To To to work hard to get to where you want to get professionally. And then once you get there, then you can have that fun. Because guess what You're doing something that you love doing professional. You wake up in the morning, you start making more money. When you make more money, you have access to things to do That makes you happy and is a lot more fun. So yeah, I sacrificed a lot earlier in my life to be able to have the career in the life that I have now. Yeah, for sure. But I always say sacrifice. Now eat later.

Amen. Amen. Eat well later. Not Sizzler. I'm talking about prime steak, uh, for sure. And then just take me through, like your journey through sports broadcasting, because I think there's a lot of people know you have to You start out like a smaller market and you work your way up. Yeah. I mean, so, like I said the day I got out of the military, I'm talking about like I got discharged about eight o'clock in the morning and at eight o'clock in the morning, eight a one. I remember my first sergeant saying So you know, Airman Hill, Sergeant, What are you gonna do now? And I like shit. I don't know. A job over six years. I have to worry about that, man. I was good. Now, in the meantime, I had been sending out all these resume tapes All these TV stations trying to get a job and have been turned down. I always tell the story. I sent out 75 presentation. I got 72 rejection letters, you know? So it's always these nose, and I got three callbacks and basically two was critiquing my tape. One. I was telling me how bad I was, and maybe I shouldn't do this shit. You know what I mean? But there was one that was one in a bigger sound. Uh, Maryland, which was about 80 miles away from where I was living near Fort Meade, Maryland, Uh, had called me and about 23 weeks before I got out of military when did a job interview in a snowstorm and got there, and I guess impressed. And I didn't hear anything back. I don't know if I was gonna get anything back. I always was told they don't call them because that might turn them off. Whatever. And So I was just waiting, and I was like, You know what? I don't have a job. What am I gonna do? I don't know. I'm married, man. I'm staying with a friend now because we already packed up our apartment. Maybe I'm just gonna go live my brother for a minute down in Virginia and just working it out. Maybe work at Costco. I don't know because I had turned down other jobs. You know, I had a top secret clearance. I have turned down jobs that you need a security claims to have. I'm talking about good jobs. I could have been making, like, 80 $85,000 a year straight out the military at the age I was 24 at the time, right? And back in 1995. That was really good. Money still is today, to be honest with you, But you know, at that time and I said no, I wanted I wanted to get into broadcasting. And so when I discharged, he asked me, didn't know, went to my friend's house, took a nap two hours later, got a phone call. It was Bob Born jester, news director. Hagerstown, Maryland, asked me if I wanted the job, and that's how it began, man. So glory and praise the God man because I was out of work for two hours at that time, and it worked out for me. So since you since you brought up the money, could you tell me how much your first job was for? Yes, exactly. I'll tell you, it was I was making less than $7 an hour. Yes. So think about this. I turned down a job. I'm married, Uh, military benefits. I'm talking about medical. All that stuff done to everything is paid for them. Taking care of my kids, you know, not kids, but my wife and got privileges at the commissary and B X and all that type of stuff. And once you out, that stuff leaves unless you go into the reserves. Right? So I ain't got a job. I ain't got benefits. I ain't got medical. I ain't got them to I ain't got none of that type of stuff, you know what I mean? Uh, so I'm like, Oh, damn, And get that job. And then I turned down $85,000 a year job, and I'm telling my wife Look, hey, this is what I want to do. And she backed me, and I give her credit for that. You know, even though we're not together anymore, I give her credit for all that type of stuff. She she believed in me. And then I get that job, and then I tell her, Yo, I mean, I think I was making like 6, 75 an hour. You know, my first job and so imagine that. But it was my passion. It was what I wanted to do. And this is the lesson that I always tell kids I'm like Sometimes you got to sacrifice the money in order to have your happiness. You want to buy your happiness in a sense, with a job that you enjoy going to. I always say, if I gave you $10 million right now, but I said you had to have a career. You gotta get up and go to work and do something. What would you do? This is what I would have done. I would have chosen broadcasting of anything being a sportscaster. And so I started making 6 $75. Now 60 75 an hour...

...for the first six months. And then I got another job, though six months later, in Fresno and I was making 30,000 year, then 30 35,000. And then I got to Nashville within two years of my first job and I was making 50,000. And then two years after that, 70,000, and by year five I was making over $100,000 a year. So I was able to gradually move up doing what I wanted to do. Having that passion gain that experience, having a smile on my face every day, make the money survive, make the money eventually and continue to climb because I went with my passion and not looking at the dollar signs. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. I think a lot of people kind of forget. Like, you know, you really do have to start somewhere at the bottom and get the experience, And then you get the better offers and better offers and better offers, like you just explain. Uh, and then what about what was it like to to join ESPN? Was that, like, one of your goals? Uh, actually, it wasn't It wasn't, uh, you know, always, because when I was going coming up through the local markets and Hague Sound Fresno in Nashville when I was in New York, I remember somebody said, Hey, uh, they wanted me to audition at ESPN. I went up there and audition. I don't really like it. I like, uh, so as a matter of fact, when I auditioned, auditioned before I got the job in New York. I remember my agent called me and she said, Hey, you got the job and I was like, which one? And she said, the one in New York and I was happier to go to New York because that was where I was born. I was like, Okay, I got to go back home Work at a regional market. MSG, Fox Sports. I didn't really think about ESPN. Didn't really want to go there, to be quite honest with you. Uh, but it just so happened that over a period of time, because what happened in New York after 9 11 and in Dallas, when I got fired, I needed a job, and ESPN brought me in for another audition, and they hired me. And that's the, you know, the rest is history after, like I said, nine years of being there. But, uh, no, to answer your question, it wasn't my dream coming out like I want to be on ESPN. A lot of people used to tell me when I was in local markets. Oh, you're gonna be on ESPN one day. You're gonna do this, You're gonna do a lot. Okay? I will be happy in the top 10 market, making a lot of money in the good city. That's the way I was looking at. So those are my goals. But God had bigger plans for me. And thank God he did. Yeah, for sure. And then what about like, what was the difference is just like working at ESPN versus Fox Sports one. I always have to be careful When I asked that question, man, the differences okay? ESPN's worldwide leader I respect and love with ESPN does. They are still the king. They really are. I work at Fox Sports One Fox Sports Love what I do over there. But ESPN is still the king. When you look at the ratings, they're still the king. They still got it worldwide. Everybody talks about them, so they have a great platform. And I love that. The difference for me being at five sports one is that I'm happier. Minella first and foremost. Nothing against Connecticut. But you know and you know Connecticut L A. For me, Your next big state. Great ST Paul. Great state. Don't get me wrong. I know you lived there. Great state wasn't necessarily for me, But I lived there for nine years, so I did my time. Okay? I served my time. So coming out to L. A was always a dream of mine. So that's number one. But then five sports really wanted me to be me. They really wanted me to be myself at ESPN. I got there and I lost myself. I lost who I was. I lost my voice because, you know, there are so many different people that try and mold you and tell you how you should do this. And then you're scared because you got to remember, You know, I lost my job in New York because of 9 11, I get fired in Dallas. So the last two jobs I had, I'm out of work. So now I want to keep this job. So I got to do whatever the powers that be tells me to do. So I'm a little bit afraid, and I go in and I become basically a puppet, and I lost myself and I don't know who I was. Now it lasted for nine years, but after a while, I was like, You know what? I got to re find myself And so the last couple of years I started...

...doing that, and then I got fired from ESPN. But once again, sometimes your biggest burdens turned out to be your biggest blessings. Because the day I got fired from ESPN is they actually flew out to L. A. And the next day I got a job at Fox. Yeah, that's crazy. I don't know, like about you, but like every time something like job wise or something like falls through for me, I feel like something else just, like happens. And it's just like you said, like it's just like for a reason. Yeah, yeah, God has a plan for us all. You know, like, you know, when one door closes, you know, there's a window that's open, and I strongly believe that. And I've gotten to the point where, you know, yeah, it's disappointing when you first find out something like that happens. If you lose a job or you know something that you really want, it doesn't come through. There's a little disappointment, but I always believe that something better is gonna come along. Actually, something like that just happened recently after, you know, I got this job being C. I had an opportunity to do some acting in because I just got this job at being see. I wasn't able to take this role, and it was a nice role as an actor. I've always wanted to be an actor, and I finally got a part that I auditioned for, that I booked. And my schedule just doesn't collide. But, you know, disappointment. I wish I could do it. What you're gonna do both whatever. But unfortunately, I can't. But I also know that you know what? What's for me is for me. And maybe God has a plan that will lead me to bigger and better things. Because I had that audition because people saw me. Maybe they'll say something in two or three years down the line. We saw this guy before we liked, and we wanted to hire him. Families bring them in to do this. So, you know, I know everything happens for a reason. So I'm with you on that. Yeah, for sure. Um, and then, like I saw one of your your pin tweet is, um I've had sex. I have I had success, but I don't consider myself successful being successful to me is to attain my your full potential. I'm about 30% but I ain't nowhere near done yet. Just watch me. So could you explain that? Yeah. I mean, because a lot of people look and say, Oh, you've been on ESPN and Fox Sports on this national show. Now you got your own show. Uh, housewives all this Manu Manu, you're successful now. Successful. I've had success. And that's what I said. I've had success, I've had winds. And yes, I'm in a good position and I'm blessed, and I'm thankful for that. But do I consider myself successful? Do I consider myself there? You know what I mean? Where? Hey, my goal. Because you got to think about this. When you set a goal, you set goals, right? Said a lot of goals now to set the ultimate goal. That means you have to reach that ultimate goal. I have not reached that ultimate goal. So I've had success on my journey to being successful because I have not obtained once again my full potential. I know there's so much more that still left inside of me that I want to do. I want to do things behind the scenes. I want to host another talk show. I still want to do this morning show. I want to produce some things I want to act. I want to write another book. Those are things that I just want to become a person that is a full conglomerate, so to speak, you know, So I can leave a lasting legacy behind and make an impact on society. So that is when I would consider my myself success folk. And right now that was about 30% When I wrote that, I'm probably about 40% now, because since then I've had another show and then this show coming up. So I'm getting there and once again, getting booked for an acne. Get I'm getting there. But I still have at least halfway of my full potential to reach, and I'm still not done yet. I'm still working hard until I get there. I like that. I like that. Um, what advice would you give to young broadcasters trying to, like, make it do what you're doing like you, man, I admire what you're doing. I admire you know, like you're reaching now and you know hey, take a chance, man. Um, don't listen to the nose. Don't get discouraged by the notes because you're going to hear a lot of them once again. I told you I sent out 75 tapes. I got 72 knows I basically got 74 knows, But I only had...

...one. Yes, but it was the right Yes. And it was the right Yes, at the right time. Because I think back over those tapes that I sent out and remember, I was in the military. And that's a commitment. The military doesn't just let you out because you got another job. It's a commitment. You gotta fulfill that commitment. So this is how God talks when it comes to time. And I had started sending those tapes out. Maybe 89 months, almost a year. Maybe. I believe before I about to get out of the military, say I would have sent out my first tape. Nice market. Nice job, good opportunity or whatever. And they would say, Hey, you're hired. This would have been maybe in April, March, April of 1994. I got out military in February 1995. I still had eight months nine months of my commitment for the military. They don't just let you out like that. So what? Have already gotten that job and I would have had to turn it down. I'd have been disappointed then. I've been looking at the last 89 months of my military, so I'm like, what am I gonna do? So luckily, I got those nose along the way and help me improve my tape. So I kept getting better as I was getting those nose and not I was getting frustrated. I was getting discouraged at times. You know, this is why I'm giving you advice. But at the same time, I kept believing and I was like, It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. And once again, the timing was right, because two hours after I got out of the military, that's when I got that job, the one that said yes, two or three weeks that I interview with right before I got the military. So my advice is don't listen to the nose or get discouraged by all the nose because you're going to hear a lot of them in the beginning. But all it takes is one, right? Yes, that could catapult start and catapult your career to what you really wanted to be. Listen, be nice and continue to network, man. That'll work for you. I'm telling you. Yeah, definitely. Networking is definitely key. Are you ready for some more lighter questions? Some fun questions? Let's do it. Uh, what's your favorite song right now? New favorite song right now. Uh, man, I don't know if I have a favorite song right now. Uh, yeah, I like that ratchet stuff, man. And when it just comes on, I just I like I mean, I could if I went on my playlist right now. Like I love Travis Scott. I love all these guys like I like the baby. I love all these guys, but I don't know if I have one favorite song. Like, I love this song right here. Yeah, that's all. Yeah, you know, So I don't know if I have a favorite song. Alright, I'll take it. What about Are you, like a Jersey guy or like, a shoe guy? Say it again. Are you Jersey guy or like, a shoe guy? Uh, more of a shoe guy. You know, wear jerseys. You know, here's the thing I've owned. And I'm a huge Yankee fan. Uh, I've owned maybe three jerseys in my entire life. That's it. I've never bought a Knicks jersey. I love the Knicks, but I ain't never had a player that I love that much that I wanted to buy Jersey. And I think wearing a basketball jersey over your regular clothes look, stupid shit. Beyonce with you, that's just me. I don't understand why you do that. And then if you wear without a shirt on, you ain't playing. You look stupid as shit. So why would you wear a basketball jersey? I don't understand why people do that, but that's just me. I understand why other people do it. Um, Both so called jerseys, huh? Both shots. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? What I'm saying, like, hey, I'm not trying to judge. I just It's just for me. You know what I'm saying? I like hanging them up more. Yeah, you hang them up. If you can hang them up, you get them signed. You know, it's cool to do something like that, but, uh, and And this wearing jerseys, period, when I don't play the game. You know, it's another thing, but I did have to buy me to Yankee jerseys. I bought me Derek Jeter, Derek Jeter, jersey number two, and I bought the number 42 Mariano Rivera because it's it really access three jerseys because 42 is Mariano Rivera. And obviously that's Jackie Robinson, which has been retired. So I enjoy it. So and then, um, for the Giants. My brother actually bought me Eli Manning Jersey. I want to buy this shit myself. But he bought it for me,...

...and I used to wear it during the Giants games or whatever when he was actually really good and playing for my team will win Super Bowls, but yeah, those are the only three jerseys I've ever owned. I got well, I gotta follow up at the Hall of Famer eventually. Eventually. And I say I love Eli Manning. Don't get me wrong. A great guy. Nice person, good football player. Good. Is he one of the greatest of all time? Hard to say, because I'm a Giants fan. I know he won two Super Bowls right too soon. He won two Super Bowl. I get that, but is that criteria is that the only criteria takes to get you into the Hall of Fame. So you mean to tell me you can suck? You can have 15 seasons in the league. You can suck for 12 of those seasons, have three really good seasons to you win the Super Bowl and you get into the Hall of Fame. I don't believe Eli had good seasons throughout the Eli. You look at his record the season how many times he actually go to the playoffs. He didn't like half the times that he was in the in the in the league and the league. He didn't leave, leave his team to the playoffs, and then the only games that he won in the playoffs are those two Super Bowl winning seasons. So you try and tell me how how much success did you have in the postseason? And how well did he play in the regular season? I don't know. Eventually, he's gonna get in because he's got those two Super Bowl rings, though. You're a realist, uh, Giants fan because all Giants fans I know he's Yeah, he's a he's a sure sure Hall of Famer. He ain't definitely ain't first battle. He definitely was. Alright, last one, Um, like, who has been, like, your favorite interview, and And is there anybody that you want to interview that you haven't interviewed yet? Uh oh, gosh, My favorite interview. I say one of my favorite interviews was the time I interviewed Snoop. First time when he came on NFL live because he was high and I smelled like we threw was bad. He was like, Wow, bro, like you're gonna come in here and the whole joint smells like weed. But it was cool. He had a lot of fun. He was just, like, just real loose, relaxed, like you always say, Snoop real cool. Dude, that was one of my memorable interviews, but my favorite interview may have been I can't think of the guy's name, but he used to be a UFC fighter. He's where this big chain and how all the time Black dude he had Yeah. I can't think of a guy. Uh, rampage. Rampage, Jackson. Yeah, that's a rampage, Jackson. And he had this chain on, and we had just funny interview. I had this, like, had my producer make this paper chain that you know. You see little kids make Put it around my neck and he had his chain on and I was like, Man, I'm you know, I'm the paper chance. That's what I said. I was a paper champ and he busted out laughing. We just because he had just won the championship, was talking about being in Vegas party with Jamie Foxx is a good interview. And then another one was with Magic Johnson because we didn't just talk about this Hall of Fame career. He talked about business as well. So I remember that man. But, you know, I've had a good run, bro. Yeah, for sure. What about dream Interview? Dream Interview would be somebody like, uh, I would like to interview Will Smith. Will Smith is my favorite person celebrity. Ever do this? I like the guy. I think he's just good down to earth, a list brilliant person, and the fact that the other day came out that he could run for president. I'm like I'd vote for Will Smith held and we had a reality show star, Mr President, and you saw a wrestler in Minnesota winning the governorship and then an actor and on the Schwarzenegger won the governorship in California. I can't. Will Smith be run the country here? The rock and I've been around the rock before, but yeah, you know, I love both of those guys. I just think they have good energy, and they're just good people. So and I would like to know more about him, and I think he'd be foretelling, uh, foretelling foretelling about that. He's been killing now. Yeah, he's incredible, man. He really admired that, dude. Well, Mike, I appreciate you coming on. And could you let the listeners know where they can...

...follow you at? You can follow me if you want to. On its Mike Hill on all social media platforms on Twitter and on instagram I t s Mike Hill. And you can also buy the book open mic, uh, amazon at amazon dot com target dot com walmart dot com I'm sorry. And Barnes and nobles dot com and, uh, doing well, and I appreciate all your support and follow me and watch being see Black News Channel as well. Uh, yeah, Real housewives of Atlanta and White song. All that type of stuff. I'm everywhere, man. Yeah, it's my kill is on my social media platforms. Boom. That was great. Okay,.

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