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Nick Newell | Average to Savage EP51

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This is the fifty-first episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring MMA fighter Nick Newell. Paul Guarino talked with Nick Newell discussing how his love for MMA developed, overcoming adversity, and his fight coming up on May 31st at CES MMA 56. Follow Nick Newell https://www.instagram.com/notoriousnewell/ Powered by PG Sports https://www.pg-sports.com

This is the average to savage podcastwith Paul Garno, everyone in anyone, athletes, suebs and much more.Stop everybody on back for another episode of the average savage podcast or special guests. Today is MMA fighter Nick Newell, who is currently fourteen into. Nick, how's gone? I'm really happy to be on the PODCAST. Yeah,man, I appreciate you coming on. So it's just jump right into couldyou tell me a little about you growing up in how you got into awrestling as a kid? I always love martial arts movies or anything actually JeanVan Damn movies. I think where my favorite? Well, I know wheremy favorite, and then I loved anything with Arnold or slow, anything familyin action. I was super into I wanted to be a NATIA turtle growingup. I used to try to like Cimon man hold and my family tohave to watch me to make sure I didn't actually jump into the super sothe other thing that I loved was wwe. I know a lot of people willmake fun of it or whatever. You know, as a kid thatwas amazing to me. That was like the best thing that there was stillstill to this day, like you know, like I don't, I don't followit, like I respect the impact that out of my life. Sowhen I got high school, one of my friends was like, Hey,I'm gonna ture the wrestling team and I kind of was like, Oh,you're going to you're going to wrestle, and I had wrestling just a littlebit, just I was like one season, but I never competed. I justpracticed because my dad brought me when I was the second grade. ButI was more interested in like baseball actually at soccer. So I got tohigh school and my friends who use the wrestle and I kind of got telllike your wrestle and I was like all, get you up, you know,I thought that. So I turned the rest of team. I wasgood to know how to do this and also I'm like I'm pretty good,like I can kind of scrabble all my friends and and I'm top, youknow. And it wasn't really the case. I kind of kind of got myask what you know. HM, when I first started talking, Ilost my first seventeen matches, but to me that wasn't like Oh, thisis not for me type deal. It was more wow, like humbling,very humbling, and something that grounded me. You know, I can never imaginebeing something. So it's like that, as something as bad as I wasand then being like all, I suck at that. I'm just goingto accept that. I suck at it forever, like it bothered me.So I would think I got a cake. I got a good hm. SoI just kept training and training and training and obviously I went on andKinda stay record and school record and became all states and wrestling college and Alftingmy game. So I have that's basically...

...more than what you asked for froman answer, but it's my wrestling story. Yeah, for sure. Yeah,so that that's what led your western England college for wrestling, right.Yeah, now Western University, but coge and great experience. You know,I love wrestling. It's my favorite sport. So we's doing. It is agreat school and I hadn't definitely appreciated the levelstling that I got there.You know, coming out of college, we made you want to turn intoa prom may fighter. So, just like many, many, many otherpeople I was I didn't really understand what MMA was. I had watched tenshare morons like a couple of times because, again, I like pro wrestling.Yeah, but it was until the old night fighter season one that Iwas like, okay, I really am the starting to understand what's going onand what they're doing, and I was. I just wanted to know how todo what they were doing and I didn't have any expectation to make anythingout of it. It was just something that I thought would be good toknow the definitely I started training and started doing my thing and I still waslearning the little intricacies and the little things that go into it. And thenI had a guy that I was training with fight and I went to thefight and he was good, but I was noticing all the other fight andI was like, Oh, I could beat you guys up. And againI got kind of jealous of these people. You know, I don't think that'sthe appropriate reaction, to have jealousy, you know, but I definitely was. I thought and I was like, Oh, I could a hundred andbeat you guys up. So I had to talk on my coach andwe did what it took to get me ready and I started fighting. GotIt. So you weren't five and one as an amateur. Actually know,I had a very short so I lost my debut at seventy and then Icut down the one hundred and fifty five and and I went to a no. But I thought two really good guys. And at the time there was noathletic commission. So if the promoter said you're good to go, you'regonna go. You didn't even need medicals. This was the state that mess.That's why. And when I heard that the commission was going to beintroduced, I thought I would be a good idea for me to go forall. The main reason is is because I didn't want them to say,oh well, he guess I hit them serve up close. A different piece. I wanted to get pro winds under my belt before the Athletic Commission cameso I could be like hey, look, I'm a professional. Yeah, andI'm already winning profile, so how are you going to tell me thatI can't do I was worried about that. So that's exactly what I did,and then I resister some pro wins and you know, from then onout I was a professional fight the definitely would be. What was your firstprofile like? My first profile was in limit Massachusetts for a lead called cagefighting extreme. I thought this guy, Damn Ford, who was like hewas a karate guy, so obviously he...

...was lacking in the ground. Icame out, I throw a head kick out him, but I swipt andfell and then you rushed me and I ended up taking him down getting ontop of the pounding mill in the first round. Yes, you remember everyfight exactly? Huh? Yeah, I mean I remember parts of fight.Yeah, I mean when you fight everything kind of slowed down. So fiveminutes feels like five hours something for me. At least. I tend to rememberthe detail, though I don't really like to watch my fight, evenwhen I went. I don't watch them. I know I should, but Ijust don't like to, so I don't. I know I should.People tell me I but I just have my coaches watching for me to breakdown. So I for years I was like, Oh, yeah, Ihit A and fro like no, you didn't, I did, and thenI watched it and I definitely did not do actual I get back to myseat. So I remember most details, but I don't remember. Do youhave any favorite fights? I mean, obviously the my favorite probably is whenI won the XC title. Yeah, because you know, it was likea near perfect fight with the near perfect fight and at the time. Thatguy I fought was on like a really good role, role happy in alot of very, very good fighters, and I was unproven and really noone thought that I could do it. Yeah, except for my team.My team told me that they what was going to happen and and, tobe quite honest with you, I didn't believe it myself. Everyone looks atme as this guy that's like just a beast and always believes in himself.But like, I do believe in myself because of what I've been through,but I have the believe in myself. So I was nervous and I wasscared and I honestly didn't know if I was going to win going into it. But I just kind of just sit, screw it, I'm gonna bite downon my mouthpiece and go out there and do my thing. And that'swhere and that's what I did. So after that, Fay, did youhave a whole new confidence? Yeah, I definitely had a little bit moreconfidence in myself and my abilities. You know, it's good. You know, I learned a lot because I ended up going you know, I endedup only winning really two matches my pression year in high school and wrestling andthen I trained all year. Everyone is going to parties, you know.I was training all summer every year and then my senior year I wontre fiftythree matches, you know. So it's like that's taught me the value ofhard work and standing out and being being different. And people look at mebecause I have one hand and are like, Oh my God, it's amazing thathe does that. But that's not what special about me. My playing, the thing I specially as my consistency and my attitude and I'm always goingto try to learn and get better. I appreciate the value of hard work, because nothing is come easy to me. Yeah, definitely, definitely, andand I know you started out eleven, and know and then you suffered yourfirst loss versus just engaug you. But what did that fight like teachyou about yourself? I mean really,...

...if you watch me fight, Idon't get hit a lot. I have very good for work with with myfeet, but that fight I evaded and needed and it taught me that Ineed to kind of relax a little bit, because when I first started the fight, I was tuning them up and I was landing all these shots,but I was too anxious and to like rigid and I was throwing to finishand I kind of like put too much in it and I couldn't pick theappropriate of time to step back off the gas pedal and reassess. And italso showed me that, you know, I was I was tough. Icould take a shot and keep fighting. So I appreciate that. I appreciatemy loss is just as much as my wings. You know, in thisgame, if you're not first, your last, you know. But ifyou can't lose gracefully and learn a lesson from it, then you're never goingto get better. Yeah, definitely doesn't say something about him that he's likea star in the UFC. Now. Yeah, I mean obviously when hefights two guys that are top ten in the world and I gave him abetter fight than those guys, it means something. MMA man doesn't always worklike that, but I mean, I don't know, it feels it feelsgood to see like, Hey, guys, you think I'm out of my element. Well, look, I've only ever lost. The guys are undefeatedat the time, you know, and in just sin's lost since then,but he's proving himself to be a solid top ten fighter, maybe even topfive. Yeah, definitely, and I know after that you went on towin two more and that was your I think that was the first time youfought in Connecticut as a pro. Right. Yeah, so after that I wenton and won my next two fights in Connecticut, and it was abig deal for me. Yeah, because I'm from Connecticut, and also tobe able to finally, after traveling all over the world to fight, beable to finally come home and win bits was key for me. You know, it was. It was good. It was something that although I wasfighting here there, I was going to Canada, I was going to LaI was fighting in Nashville, fighting in Florida. It was good to befinally home and a lot of my friends will fly out to my fights,but it was good for them to not have to do that. Yeah,definitely. And then what made you retire in two thousand and fifteen and thencome back in two thousand and eighteen? Okay, so it's truth is there'sno solid answer for that. Right, sometimes it just comes down to howyou feel. So at the time I felt like I was at a standstill. I had been getting injured a lot every fight. Camp and and mybody was hurting and I was pushing through to fight because I needed the money, you know, and if I didn't do it and I didn't fight,then I made no money. And I had a Condo that I bought,you know, I mean obviously, I it's like I didn't go above mymeans, but I needed to take care of myself right. I lived athome, honestly, till I was twenty nine and I slept in my coachesbasement, you know. So I was like, you know, I'm almostthirty years old, I'm going to buy my own place. So I didand I lost the gag and I sat out for like a year waiting foranother fight, and the money just wasn't consistent enough for me to feel comfortablegoing into my s I didn't want to...

...be this like guy, and let'sforty years old, that doesn't know what he's going to do next because he'sjust like, I'm just going to fight and just be s around, youknow. And so I was like, I'm gonna Focus on me, I'Mgonna get my body healed up, I'M gonna get my body recovered, I'mgoing to open up my own gym and then if I decided to fight again, it'll be on my own terms and I won't have to do it becauseof the money. I'll do it because of the love and and that's exactlywhat happened. Yeah, what it is is your third or fourth year goinginto owning your own GYP. Yeah, we are fighting Arts Academy CT inWest Saving Connecticutt it's a branch of the Springfield, Massachusetts, Fighting Arts Academyand we've been open for three years, since April. April second was theday we went in business in what's that? Two Thousand and sixteen? Yep.So, yeah, we've been opened a little over three years and youknow, we have some great results. Yeah, what's the what's Your ExperienceBeen Like coaching now? It's a definitely has a challenges, but it reallyhelps improve my technique because I'm really watching everyone and every thing and breaking downall the techniques I've been doing so I can teach them better. Yeah,yeah, definitely are going back to two thousand and eighteen. You got yougot the Itch to fight again, as I would happen. Yeah, sotwo thousand and eighteen was helping guys train for fights and training and I waslike basically in fight shape and doing well, you know, and I said,you know what, I need to do this again. I don't wantto I don't want to have any regrets. I don't want to grow up andbe like, Oh man, I could have done this or I couldhave done that, like whether I can do it or not won't bother meas long as I know that I gave it everything I had to make ithappen. Yeah, definitely, your first fight back, you won by submissionin the first round and then you got on Dana White contender series. Sohow did that come about? Like how did you get on the Dan Awakentender shoes? Um, so, I thought, and I won and Iwas complaining that I needed to be in the USC. So nothing, Ididn't hear anything, you know. And honestly, I've known him for along time. I still have like the harst. I'm saying his name,but Ali, everyone knows Ali. Yeah, call me up and and he's like, well, let me tell you something, I'll get you, I'llget you, I'll get you in. So I was like listen, thisI've been working at this a long time. Like, if you can get mea meeting with Dana? Why? I'll you know, I'd appreciate it. So he did. He got me a meeting and then, you know, we convince them to get me, give me a shot on the contenderseries. So that basically how it happened. He called me up and promised methat he would make it happen and he did. So, you know, that's that's that's basically how I got on. He's some of the levershe had and from some of my guys he has and used it to getme an opportunity. Yeah, what was it like just to get the opportunityand fight in front of him? I don't really care about stuff like that, you know. I my goal, obviously, is the big shows.I want that UFC fight or that main card belator MSG fight or that Japanon New Year's fight. You know,...

I want those things. But forme to do that, I'm treating it the same, whether I'm fighting inroom with no one, like I was on the contender series, or apacked stadium with everyone screaming my name. It's it makes no difference. There'sstill someone in front of you and you have to fight that person. Yeah, definitely was that way. WAS THAT WEIRD? Just fighting in the likea crowd, fool room. Like how many people were there? Like lessthan fifty, like a hundred maybe. But here's the thing. You didthat and practice all the time, right, it's true. So I fight peopleand practice and I'll practice and a fight aren't the same thing. Yeah, and as much as I like to say like Oh, being in aroom like that and have a no one in the crowd really threw me off, and that's why, that's why I lost, because of my head wasout of it and I thought it was weird. But, like, thetruth is, I didn't really care or notice the difference. Actually liked itbecause that could I can hear my coach a little bit better and it itwasn't a big deal, you know, I just wasn't my night more thananything else. Yeah, so we got a big fight coming up. MayThirty one see us fifty six versus Calvin. How the seventeen five. So whatshould we expect? So this is a this is the kind of fightI asked for. You know, I'm fourteen in two as a pro anda lot of these guys don't want to take the risk, they don't wantto fight someone tough they want to make it to the big show, sothey won't take any risks. And my last fight was to a wrestler,so I wanted to fight another wrestler and I wanted someone that had experience,that I have a lot to gain off of winning, someone with a goodrecord and lots of experience. So his name was presented and was a fightthat I really liked because it's a challenge. You know, seventeen and five isno joke. You you can you can't get a record like that ifyou stuck. And if you're going to fight the guys on the big show, you have to fight tough guys. You can't just not fight tough guysand then hop in there and be like, Oh, finally a tough guy likeyou. You got to build your way up to the ladder, youknow, and and I like those, those greedy fights. I want tohave to dig deep. I I obviously don't want to lose an inch thewhole fight. I want to win the entire fight, but it's not theworst thing ever, if maybe you lose a little bit of the round orkey as his moments. You know, stuff like that builds character and Ilike being in those bad situations, because then I have to dig deep andshow how good I am, you know. So for me this was a wasa great fight because I feel like I obviously he has more to gainfrom it because I'm bigger drawn, a bigger name, but honestly, onon my half, I have a lot of game from it is very motivatingfor me because of the style of fight he has. Is something, youknow, that that I like. That no one really wants to fight wrestlersever, and I don't care, I'll do it. And his records good. So for me to build this up if we did, like my lastten opponents are like ninety and thirty or...

...something crazy like that. There recordswhen I fought them. Yeah, so it's something that I like and Iwant. Ye, that's funny that you said that, because I remember it'sweird you back when somebody said they don't do that and then they did itwith I think it was I think it was clariss to shield or somebody likea boxer. They did it with the total numbers number. Well, yeah, I mean I just I just went full highlander road and I was like, if I absorb the losses of the people that beat me and absorb thewins of the people that I beat. My records would be a hundred andtwo, and two, a few more. What advice would you give a kidthat has to overcome obscools? I mean, there's really, there's reallynothing, nothing you can do. You know, you can be a victimof your circumstances or you can create your own, and you know better thananyone that sometimes you just got to say screw it. Like this what Ihave and this is what I got to work with and and I'm going tomake it happen and I'm going to make a name for myself despite what I'mfacing, because the truth is, as the world's not fair and sometimes youstart the race a little further back and you have to hustle harder and runfaster to to really get ahead, and you know you have to you haveto push, you have to push, push, push, push, Push, because there's people that maybe have advantages that you don't have or circumstances thatyou don't have, but it's about drawing out those circumstances and not using anythingas a crutch and making things you want to happen happen. And if youdo everything you can to make it happen and it still doesn't happen. Atthe end of the day, you you can hang your head proud, youknow, knowing that it's like, okay, I really, really, really investedin this and it just wasn't meant to be. Definitely Damn. We'regoing to take some of those quotes. But like a lot of time,you end up doing stuff that you didn't even think that you could do.Like me all the time. I've done so many things. Like people arelike, Oh my God, you always believe in yourself, like, likeI said before, and that's not true. I actually didn't believe in myself,but I said I'm just going to try my hardest anyway. And thingshappened that I was like, what the heck? Like one one time thatit kind of a turning point for me was my sophomore year wrestling. Ihave this one guy that pinned me like really quick the year before and thenI had wrestled him in like club and he killed me and and I waslike I told my coach, I was like, don't make me wrestle him, he's going to beat me, and my coach flipped out on me.He like absolutely chewed me a new one and I was like, okay,I guess I'll go wrestle him and I didn't think that I would do welland I literally lost, and then I was like, man, if Ijust believe in myself a little bit more, I would have won, you know, and that kind of motivated me. But even after that I still haven'tbeen perfect, you know, but I appreciate the value of hard workand I think that him special things happen when you truly believe in yourself.YEA, yeah, definitely, definitely. And last ones. You are somefun questions. You ready for yeah, who's your favorite MMA fighter? Me, I'll take it all right. What...

...about wwe wrestler? Like, who'dyou? Who Do you grew up like? Okay, so we're done. Ishould say wwf pro wrestlers, but when I was growing up my favoritewas Brett Hart, a hundred percent, the best there is, the bestthere was in the best ever. Will be a game his glasses ones.I'll take it. What about what's on your playlist? Man, I listento everything, so I don't really like country music that much, but sometimesa few of them slip through, you know. But for me it's mostlylike alternative or Indie Rock and gangs are up. Those are like my twothings, you know, it's one one in a spectrum or the other oneafter. What about what's your favorite meme of all time? Jeez, Ihave so many means. There's one as a guy with like ranch sauce inhis pocket and I said, you know, I keep that thing on me andI don't know why. For some reason that makes me laugh like somuch every time I see it and like other people will be like a nick, that's not that funny and I'll be like, well, you're wrong.It's ysterical to me. I thought one of the the funniest ones you post, I think I'm pretty sure you post it, was when they were inthe persons were in like other guys were in the Ug boots and says whenyou're serious but your dead ass or something like that. Yeah, is makingfun of what do you think? Women and and guys from Long Island?What's something people don't know about Nick Newell? I don't know. I honestly Ikind of put my whole life out there and I really I think sometimesI need to pump the brakes, you know, but obviously my favorite thingis my family and my son and and you know, I love my wifeand I have like a good thing going on and I used to kind oflike to go out and have fun and party and stuff like that, butrecent in recent years, I've fallen in love with getting more sleep and goingto better early and being healthy and just really taking care of myself, youknow. But that's like not a unique trait. There's plenty of people todo that and I just obviously people ask me, what's your hobby? Withyour hobby and I'm like, my hobby is what I do every day.Fighting is my hobby. This is a hobby to me. You know,if it was something else, than it wouldn't be as much fun and Iwouldn't be as good at it. So I spend all my time in thegym and if I'm not in a gym, I'm with my family. Yeah,it would you rather be in a UFC fight or when the lottery?That's that's not a real question, because you didn't say how much money wasin the lottery. Let's just say a million dollars. A million dollars.No, I would, I will fight, because there's certain things that I've workedso hard for my whole my whole life, and to not have thathappen would just, you know, like the money isn't you can always makemore money, but making a legacy for yourself and being remembered as harder forsure. Well, I appreciate you coming on and look at you. Giveme like fifty million, you know,...

...like are like even like twenty million, I'd be like, okay, I'll go, I'll take this money andthen I'll go fight somewhere else. Yeah, we got it all right. Well, I appreciate you coming on and let the people know where they canfind you on social media. Okay, pretty easy. So if you're onfacebook, just type in nicknol or Facebook, atom slashing, MMA easy. Butif you really want to talk to me, you really want to interactwith me, I'm on my twitter and I'm on my instagram. I don'tknow if the kids use twitter anymore, but my twitter and my instagram areboth the same. At notorious nool. I appreciate and good luck to thirtyone. Okay, thank you.

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