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Nick Newell | Average to Savage EP51

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This is the fifty-first episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring MMA fighter Nick Newell. Paul Guarino talked with Nick Newell discussing how his love for MMA developed, overcoming adversity, and his fight coming up on May 31st at CES MMA 56. Follow Nick Newell https://www.instagram.com/notoriousnewell/ Powered by PG Sports https://www.pg-sports.com

This is the average to savage podcast with Paul Garno, everyone in anyone, athletes, suebs and much more. Stop everybody on back for another episode of the average savage podcast or special guests. Today is MMA fighter Nick Newell, who is currently fourteen into. Nick, how's gone? I'm really happy to be on the PODCAST. Yeah, man, I appreciate you coming on. So it's just jump right into could you tell me a little about you growing up in how you got into a wrestling as a kid? I always love martial arts movies or anything actually Jean Van Damn movies. I think where my favorite? Well, I know where my favorite, and then I loved anything with Arnold or slow, anything family in action. I was super into I wanted to be a NATIA turtle growing up. I used to try to like Cimon man hold and my family to have to watch me to make sure I didn't actually jump into the super so the other thing that I loved was wwe. I know a lot of people will make fun of it or whatever. You know, as a kid that was amazing to me. That was like the best thing that there was still still to this day, like you know, like I don't, I don't follow it, like I respect the impact that out of my life. So when I got high school, one of my friends was like, Hey, I'm gonna ture the wrestling team and I kind of was like, Oh, you're going to you're going to wrestle, and I had wrestling just a little bit, just I was like one season, but I never competed. I just practiced because my dad brought me when I was the second grade. But I was more interested in like baseball actually at soccer. So I got to high school and my friends who use the wrestle and I kind of got tell like your wrestle and I was like all, get you up, you know, I thought that. So I turned the rest of team. I was good to know how to do this and also I'm like I'm pretty good, like I can kind of scrabble all my friends and and I'm top, you know. And it wasn't really the case. I kind of kind of got my ask what you know. HM, when I first started talking, I lost my first seventeen matches, but to me that wasn't like Oh, this is not for me type deal. It was more wow, like humbling, very humbling, and something that grounded me. You know, I can never imagine being something. So it's like that, as something as bad as I was and then being like all, I suck at that. I'm just going to accept that. I suck at it forever, like it bothered me. So I would think I got a cake. I got a good hm. So I just kept training and training and training and obviously I went on and Kinda stay record and school record and became all states and wrestling college and Alfting my game. So I have that's basically...

...more than what you asked for from an answer, but it's my wrestling story. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, so that that's what led your western England college for wrestling, right. Yeah, now Western University, but coge and great experience. You know, I love wrestling. It's my favorite sport. So we's doing. It is a great school and I hadn't definitely appreciated the levelstling that I got there. You know, coming out of college, we made you want to turn into a prom may fighter. So, just like many, many, many other people I was I didn't really understand what MMA was. I had watched ten share morons like a couple of times because, again, I like pro wrestling. Yeah, but it was until the old night fighter season one that I was like, okay, I really am the starting to understand what's going on and what they're doing, and I was. I just wanted to know how to do what they were doing and I didn't have any expectation to make anything out of it. It was just something that I thought would be good to know the definitely I started training and started doing my thing and I still was learning the little intricacies and the little things that go into it. And then I had a guy that I was training with fight and I went to the fight and he was good, but I was noticing all the other fight and I was like, Oh, I could beat you guys up. And again I got kind of jealous of these people. You know, I don't think that's the appropriate reaction, to have jealousy, you know, but I definitely was. I thought and I was like, Oh, I could a hundred and beat you guys up. So I had to talk on my coach and we did what it took to get me ready and I started fighting. Got It. So you weren't five and one as an amateur. Actually know, I had a very short so I lost my debut at seventy and then I cut down the one hundred and fifty five and and I went to a no. But I thought two really good guys. And at the time there was no athletic commission. So if the promoter said you're good to go, you're gonna go. You didn't even need medicals. This was the state that mess. That's why. And when I heard that the commission was going to be introduced, I thought I would be a good idea for me to go for all. The main reason is is because I didn't want them to say, oh well, he guess I hit them serve up close. A different piece. I wanted to get pro winds under my belt before the Athletic Commission came so I could be like hey, look, I'm a professional. Yeah, and I'm already winning profile, so how are you going to tell me that I can't do I was worried about that. So that's exactly what I did, and then I resister some pro wins and you know, from then on out I was a professional fight the definitely would be. What was your first profile like? My first profile was in limit Massachusetts for a lead called cage fighting extreme. I thought this guy, Damn Ford, who was like he was a karate guy, so obviously he...

...was lacking in the ground. I came out, I throw a head kick out him, but I swipt and fell and then you rushed me and I ended up taking him down getting on top of the pounding mill in the first round. Yes, you remember every fight exactly? Huh? Yeah, I mean I remember parts of fight. Yeah, I mean when you fight everything kind of slowed down. So five minutes feels like five hours something for me. At least. I tend to remember the detail, though I don't really like to watch my fight, even when I went. I don't watch them. I know I should, but I just don't like to, so I don't. I know I should. People tell me I but I just have my coaches watching for me to break down. So I for years I was like, Oh, yeah, I hit A and fro like no, you didn't, I did, and then I watched it and I definitely did not do actual I get back to my seat. So I remember most details, but I don't remember. Do you have any favorite fights? I mean, obviously the my favorite probably is when I won the XC title. Yeah, because you know, it was like a near perfect fight with the near perfect fight and at the time. That guy I fought was on like a really good role, role happy in a lot of very, very good fighters, and I was unproven and really no one thought that I could do it. Yeah, except for my team. My team told me that they what was going to happen and and, to be quite honest with you, I didn't believe it myself. Everyone looks at me as this guy that's like just a beast and always believes in himself. But like, I do believe in myself because of what I've been through, but I have the believe in myself. So I was nervous and I was scared and I honestly didn't know if I was going to win going into it. But I just kind of just sit, screw it, I'm gonna bite down on my mouthpiece and go out there and do my thing. And that's where and that's what I did. So after that, Fay, did you have a whole new confidence? Yeah, I definitely had a little bit more confidence in myself and my abilities. You know, it's good. You know, I learned a lot because I ended up going you know, I ended up only winning really two matches my pression year in high school and wrestling and then I trained all year. Everyone is going to parties, you know. I was training all summer every year and then my senior year I wontre fifty three matches, you know. So it's like that's taught me the value of hard work and standing out and being being different. And people look at me because I have one hand and are like, Oh my God, it's amazing that he does that. But that's not what special about me. My playing, the thing I specially as my consistency and my attitude and I'm always going to try to learn and get better. I appreciate the value of hard work, because nothing is come easy to me. Yeah, definitely, definitely, and and I know you started out eleven, and know and then you suffered your first loss versus just engaug you. But what did that fight like teach you about yourself? I mean really,...

...if you watch me fight, I don't get hit a lot. I have very good for work with with my feet, but that fight I evaded and needed and it taught me that I need to kind of relax a little bit, because when I first started the fight, I was tuning them up and I was landing all these shots, but I was too anxious and to like rigid and I was throwing to finish and I kind of like put too much in it and I couldn't pick the appropriate of time to step back off the gas pedal and reassess. And it also showed me that, you know, I was I was tough. I could take a shot and keep fighting. So I appreciate that. I appreciate my loss is just as much as my wings. You know, in this game, if you're not first, your last, you know. But if you can't lose gracefully and learn a lesson from it, then you're never going to get better. Yeah, definitely doesn't say something about him that he's like a star in the UFC. Now. Yeah, I mean obviously when he fights two guys that are top ten in the world and I gave him a better fight than those guys, it means something. MMA man doesn't always work like that, but I mean, I don't know, it feels it feels good to see like, Hey, guys, you think I'm out of my element. Well, look, I've only ever lost. The guys are undefeated at the time, you know, and in just sin's lost since then, but he's proving himself to be a solid top ten fighter, maybe even top five. Yeah, definitely, and I know after that you went on to win two more and that was your I think that was the first time you fought in Connecticut as a pro. Right. Yeah, so after that I went on and won my next two fights in Connecticut, and it was a big deal for me. Yeah, because I'm from Connecticut, and also to be able to finally, after traveling all over the world to fight, be able to finally come home and win bits was key for me. You know, it was. It was good. It was something that although I was fighting here there, I was going to Canada, I was going to La I was fighting in Nashville, fighting in Florida. It was good to be finally home and a lot of my friends will fly out to my fights, but it was good for them to not have to do that. Yeah, definitely. And then what made you retire in two thousand and fifteen and then come back in two thousand and eighteen? Okay, so it's truth is there's no solid answer for that. Right, sometimes it just comes down to how you feel. So at the time I felt like I was at a standstill. I had been getting injured a lot every fight. Camp and and my body was hurting and I was pushing through to fight because I needed the money, you know, and if I didn't do it and I didn't fight, then I made no money. And I had a Condo that I bought, you know, I mean obviously, I it's like I didn't go above my means, but I needed to take care of myself right. I lived at home, honestly, till I was twenty nine and I slept in my coaches basement, you know. So I was like, you know, I'm almost thirty years old, I'm going to buy my own place. So I did and I lost the gag and I sat out for like a year waiting for another fight, and the money just wasn't consistent enough for me to feel comfortable going into my s I didn't want to...

...be this like guy, and let's forty years old, that doesn't know what he's going to do next because he's just like, I'm just going to fight and just be s around, you know. And so I was like, I'm gonna Focus on me, I'M gonna get my body healed up, I'M gonna get my body recovered, I'm going to open up my own gym and then if I decided to fight again, it'll be on my own terms and I won't have to do it because of the money. I'll do it because of the love and and that's exactly what happened. Yeah, what it is is your third or fourth year going into owning your own GYP. Yeah, we are fighting Arts Academy CT in West Saving Connecticutt it's a branch of the Springfield, Massachusetts, Fighting Arts Academy and we've been open for three years, since April. April second was the day we went in business in what's that? Two Thousand and sixteen? Yep. So, yeah, we've been opened a little over three years and you know, we have some great results. Yeah, what's the what's Your Experience Been Like coaching now? It's a definitely has a challenges, but it really helps improve my technique because I'm really watching everyone and every thing and breaking down all the techniques I've been doing so I can teach them better. Yeah, yeah, definitely are going back to two thousand and eighteen. You got you got the Itch to fight again, as I would happen. Yeah, so two thousand and eighteen was helping guys train for fights and training and I was like basically in fight shape and doing well, you know, and I said, you know what, I need to do this again. I don't want to I don't want to have any regrets. I don't want to grow up and be like, Oh man, I could have done this or I could have done that, like whether I can do it or not won't bother me as long as I know that I gave it everything I had to make it happen. Yeah, definitely, your first fight back, you won by submission in the first round and then you got on Dana White contender series. So how did that come about? Like how did you get on the Dan Awaken tender shoes? Um, so, I thought, and I won and I was complaining that I needed to be in the USC. So nothing, I didn't hear anything, you know. And honestly, I've known him for a long time. I still have like the harst. I'm saying his name, but Ali, everyone knows Ali. Yeah, call me up and and he's like, well, let me tell you something, I'll get you, I'll get you, I'll get you in. So I was like listen, this I've been working at this a long time. Like, if you can get me a meeting with Dana? Why? I'll you know, I'd appreciate it. So he did. He got me a meeting and then, you know, we convince them to get me, give me a shot on the contender series. So that basically how it happened. He called me up and promised me that he would make it happen and he did. So, you know, that's that's that's basically how I got on. He's some of the levers he had and from some of my guys he has and used it to get me an opportunity. Yeah, what was it like just to get the opportunity and fight in front of him? I don't really care about stuff like that, you know. I my goal, obviously, is the big shows. I want that UFC fight or that main card belator MSG fight or that Japan on New Year's fight. You know,...

I want those things. But for me to do that, I'm treating it the same, whether I'm fighting in room with no one, like I was on the contender series, or a packed stadium with everyone screaming my name. It's it makes no difference. There's still someone in front of you and you have to fight that person. Yeah, definitely was that way. WAS THAT WEIRD? Just fighting in the like a crowd, fool room. Like how many people were there? Like less than fifty, like a hundred maybe. But here's the thing. You did that and practice all the time, right, it's true. So I fight people and practice and I'll practice and a fight aren't the same thing. Yeah, and as much as I like to say like Oh, being in a room like that and have a no one in the crowd really threw me off, and that's why, that's why I lost, because of my head was out of it and I thought it was weird. But, like, the truth is, I didn't really care or notice the difference. Actually liked it because that could I can hear my coach a little bit better and it it wasn't a big deal, you know, I just wasn't my night more than anything else. Yeah, so we got a big fight coming up. May Thirty one see us fifty six versus Calvin. How the seventeen five. So what should we expect? So this is a this is the kind of fight I asked for. You know, I'm fourteen in two as a pro and a lot of these guys don't want to take the risk, they don't want to fight someone tough they want to make it to the big show, so they won't take any risks. And my last fight was to a wrestler, so I wanted to fight another wrestler and I wanted someone that had experience, that I have a lot to gain off of winning, someone with a good record and lots of experience. So his name was presented and was a fight that I really liked because it's a challenge. You know, seventeen and five is no joke. You you can you can't get a record like that if you stuck. And if you're going to fight the guys on the big show, you have to fight tough guys. You can't just not fight tough guys and then hop in there and be like, Oh, finally a tough guy like you. You got to build your way up to the ladder, you know, and and I like those, those greedy fights. I want to have to dig deep. I I obviously don't want to lose an inch the whole fight. I want to win the entire fight, but it's not the worst thing ever, if maybe you lose a little bit of the round or key as his moments. You know, stuff like that builds character and I like being in those bad situations, because then I have to dig deep and show how good I am, you know. So for me this was a was a great fight because I feel like I obviously he has more to gain from it because I'm bigger drawn, a bigger name, but honestly, on on my half, I have a lot of game from it is very motivating for me because of the style of fight he has. Is something, you know, that that I like. That no one really wants to fight wrestlers ever, and I don't care, I'll do it. And his records good. So for me to build this up if we did, like my last ten opponents are like ninety and thirty or...

...something crazy like that. There records when I fought them. Yeah, so it's something that I like and I want. Ye, that's funny that you said that, because I remember it's weird you back when somebody said they don't do that and then they did it with I think it was I think it was clariss to shield or somebody like a boxer. They did it with the total numbers number. Well, yeah, I mean I just I just went full highlander road and I was like, if I absorb the losses of the people that beat me and absorb the wins of the people that I beat. My records would be a hundred and two, and two, a few more. What advice would you give a kid that has to overcome obscools? I mean, there's really, there's really nothing, nothing you can do. You know, you can be a victim of your circumstances or you can create your own, and you know better than anyone that sometimes you just got to say screw it. Like this what I have and this is what I got to work with and and I'm going to make it happen and I'm going to make a name for myself despite what I'm facing, because the truth is, as the world's not fair and sometimes you start the race a little further back and you have to hustle harder and run faster to to really get ahead, and you know you have to you have to push, you have to push, push, push, push, Push, because there's people that maybe have advantages that you don't have or circumstances that you don't have, but it's about drawing out those circumstances and not using anything as a crutch and making things you want to happen happen. And if you do everything you can to make it happen and it still doesn't happen. At the end of the day, you you can hang your head proud, you know, knowing that it's like, okay, I really, really, really invested in this and it just wasn't meant to be. Definitely Damn. We're going to take some of those quotes. But like a lot of time, you end up doing stuff that you didn't even think that you could do. Like me all the time. I've done so many things. Like people are like, Oh my God, you always believe in yourself, like, like I said before, and that's not true. I actually didn't believe in myself, but I said I'm just going to try my hardest anyway. And things happened that I was like, what the heck? Like one one time that it kind of a turning point for me was my sophomore year wrestling. I have this one guy that pinned me like really quick the year before and then I had wrestled him in like club and he killed me and and I was like I told my coach, I was like, don't make me wrestle him, he's going to beat me, and my coach flipped out on me. He like absolutely chewed me a new one and I was like, okay, I guess I'll go wrestle him and I didn't think that I would do well and I literally lost, and then I was like, man, if I just believe in myself a little bit more, I would have won, you know, and that kind of motivated me. But even after that I still haven't been perfect, you know, but I appreciate the value of hard work and I think that him special things happen when you truly believe in yourself. YEA, yeah, definitely, definitely. And last ones. You are some fun questions. You ready for yeah, who's your favorite MMA fighter? Me, I'll take it all right. What...

...about wwe wrestler? Like, who'd you? Who Do you grew up like? Okay, so we're done. I should say wwf pro wrestlers, but when I was growing up my favorite was Brett Hart, a hundred percent, the best there is, the best there was in the best ever. Will be a game his glasses ones. I'll take it. What about what's on your playlist? Man, I listen to everything, so I don't really like country music that much, but sometimes a few of them slip through, you know. But for me it's mostly like alternative or Indie Rock and gangs are up. Those are like my two things, you know, it's one one in a spectrum or the other one after. What about what's your favorite meme of all time? Jeez, I have so many means. There's one as a guy with like ranch sauce in his pocket and I said, you know, I keep that thing on me and I don't know why. For some reason that makes me laugh like so much every time I see it and like other people will be like a nick, that's not that funny and I'll be like, well, you're wrong. It's ysterical to me. I thought one of the the funniest ones you post, I think I'm pretty sure you post it, was when they were in the persons were in like other guys were in the Ug boots and says when you're serious but your dead ass or something like that. Yeah, is making fun of what do you think? Women and and guys from Long Island? What's something people don't know about Nick Newell? I don't know. I honestly I kind of put my whole life out there and I really I think sometimes I need to pump the brakes, you know, but obviously my favorite thing is my family and my son and and you know, I love my wife and I have like a good thing going on and I used to kind of like to go out and have fun and party and stuff like that, but recent in recent years, I've fallen in love with getting more sleep and going to better early and being healthy and just really taking care of myself, you know. But that's like not a unique trait. There's plenty of people to do that and I just obviously people ask me, what's your hobby? With your hobby and I'm like, my hobby is what I do every day. Fighting is my hobby. This is a hobby to me. You know, if it was something else, than it wouldn't be as much fun and I wouldn't be as good at it. So I spend all my time in the gym and if I'm not in a gym, I'm with my family. Yeah, it would you rather be in a UFC fight or when the lottery? That's that's not a real question, because you didn't say how much money was in the lottery. Let's just say a million dollars. A million dollars. No, I would, I will fight, because there's certain things that I've worked so hard for my whole my whole life, and to not have that happen would just, you know, like the money isn't you can always make more money, but making a legacy for yourself and being remembered as harder for sure. Well, I appreciate you coming on and look at you. Give me like fifty million, you know,...

...like are like even like twenty million, I'd be like, okay, I'll go, I'll take this money and then I'll go fight somewhere else. Yeah, we got it all right. Well, I appreciate you coming on and let the people know where they can find you on social media. Okay, pretty easy. So if you're on facebook, just type in nicknol or Facebook, atom slashing, MMA easy. But if you really want to talk to me, you really want to interact with me, I'm on my twitter and I'm on my instagram. I don't know if the kids use twitter anymore, but my twitter and my instagram are both the same. At notorious nool. I appreciate and good luck to thirty one. Okay, thank you.

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