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Rory Newbrough | Average To Savage EP97

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This is the ninety-seventh episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring Rory Newbrough from Netflix's Love is Blind. Paul Guarino and special guest co-host Renee Montgomery talked with Rory Newbrough discussing his upbringing, his career in the gaming industry, and his experience on the Netflix's show Love is Blind. Follow Rory Newbrough https://www.instagram.com/RoryNewbrough Podcast interview with Rory Newbrough was originally recorded April 20, 2020

This is the average this aveage podcastwith Paul Garino everyone and anyone athletes, soets andmuch more rentertainment tonight and ind of much others an some podcast, andthings like that. So it's been fun and I think there's just been a lot ofinterests in the show back then I think combination of it having come out twomonths ago and the fact that we have a global pandemic, there's kind of likethere's been shifting away from it, but yeah. It hasn't really ever gotten toocrazy for me personally, but I know that the final couples they've beenkind of all over the world, all over yeah. Okay, what's up everybody I'nback for another episode of the average Satagh podcast I got my cohost with mewere named Montgomery and our special guest today we're already Newbrowherehe hows it going it's going, how you guys doing new rows on the block Ik, let's Gooy, let go aroe You arouto! Are you dealing withquarantine like how's it going like what is that like? Like I mean it's, you know I actually gotkind of fle like symptoms early on before the official stayat home wordercame or especially like in because I live in Georgia. So I kind of Aveselfquarantine for about two weeks and that's right when the official STAYEDThome started so I've been here for about you know about a month and a halfI mean I definitely missed the gym and I miss being able to go out. But youknow it's a small ask of each of us to do that and kind ofsid it Ome, especially now, since we can do things like this, you know kindof remotely connect. So were you able to get tested? I mean the fluite.Symptoms is kind of covid Wa and I'm not saying you have, but but I'm justsaying, were you able to get testd? No, I didn't even bother because you know Ithink, the the direction at that time, because the infrastructure was stillbeing developed was that if you don't have anything that seems critical or Isee you just wride it out and you know write it out. Like my Motos, I was Ikeall right. Let's just do it right Li. This is riting yeah just ride it out. Ijust stayed at home and cough myself a storm and on all I went Bu. I actuallydid the same. I didn't feel any symptols, but I just kind of selfquarantineand and wit with it. That's great I mean it's. You know,honestly. I can' imagine this being tough a hundred years ago, but now withall the technology. It's not that bad! It's not that bad, honestly, yeah for sure yeah for sure hey wer were. Could you give us a alittle background about where you grew up sure? So I grew up in San Digo,California, so it was one of the beach kids actually went to college acrossthe street from the beach that was like Super Fun and then I came out came out to Atlanta about six years ago.Yo Start working in the games industry. So I worked on for launch titles and then one or twovideo games that didn't you know end up getting released so spend a lot of time.Actually, man, basically the last fifteen years, have been in the gamingindustry specifically up until you know. They asked me to be part of loveasbland okay, so you mentioned gaming, so youwent to uc San Diego, correct right yeah, so you had a engineering, acomputer engineer. INEGRE so was gaming, always the plan and he just fell intolove. What happen yeah absolutely. I think so. My Dad helped me build myfirst computer when I was like three, which means that he did all of it. Iwatched, but it once I got that sit up an sor tplaye my first game. It was kind of like Lov of for sight right. It wasbeing able to just kind of have differing challenges and as an art form,video games are so expressive and interactive, and so it's just so greatto be follow all of those over the course of you know. Last twenty thirtyyears of the develop and then I kind of just went into college expecting to be a programmer,and then I realized that I kind of have a knack for camera work, and so Istarted doing casting and game announcing for a videoganing companyand eventually got hired there. Okay, so I'm an announcer and I am verycurious about game announcing, okay,...

...because I actually think it'sinteresting because right now you know eports is going like take in offbecause that's not we so talk to me. Can you just announce a play for me ifI come down first, I get a steel and this is won. The game right do dosports, so I don't do any like sports games orsports, but I you know it could be. Quite you dod today, okay, Sogota steeland I went down and made it throughy. My name is ream. Mongomery number,twenty one. Let's hear it you wan't play by player. You want Color Owa,whatever you got, because iwu would be chair, wator, chair two depending butchur two would be. He playbi place, Wyoud be number twenty. Three RENAEMontgovery Yeah, twenty one, actually, twenty one, twenty one: Twenty one:okay, let's Ewe're hopping to the play rightnow, and it's twenty one and seventeen on the break or en o half time hereshortly. But we see rerne breaking out here with twenty one down the centerSou a throw ut. My Shovel Pass picking up all the way down to the end, so sheduest gon the score and that's Gointa, break it up and they're in the lead nowright before half time, righ all right, upto Y S, ne Thata that was or inte shill-that was that was a Petn right there on the scrae're to be cming up o my seasonright now. So that was good. I need you ha little normal. I like that ill, flash back to what times used tobe like sure, yeah. So what I know you I lookedup like a couple of jobs you had. So what exactly is a gamedesigner dto or a game director? o? Sorry sure? Yes, I mean I changed positions.A lot was kind of, like you know, doing a lot of legwork and then moving up,and so I started out actually as just like based entry level. Youknow community manager and th. I worked in products and marketing that I movedinto game design and game design. Is You know I we use the example offootball game. Designers would say how many downs are there, how many yardspor down? How many points is it when you do appoint conversion? How far isit before you hit forth down right the rules and the constructs that make thegame what it is and what rules are useful and you'll see a lot of this,like especially, I mean, if for using the example of NFL over time, they'vehad to make adjustments to win referees can break it up if you're outal boundsor not like things like that, develop as people play the game more and itstarts to change so game designer is responsible for holding the constructsof the fun you're having and make sure it's fair and competitive, but alsostill interesting, and u them to watch. So I did that for about three years andthen moved into leadership, which is more like you know, hiring people to dothat and then at a very high level, what products make sense. What Gamesare popular right now, how D we make money? How are we you know? What's ourcortely budget reporting to the board things like that, just like? Can we runthis business properly and keep players interested in our game? Hat's kind ofwhat a game director does is just looks at the overall vision of the productitself. Besides, what's useful, what's not what markets are we going after andthen is it playing the right way that it should? Could you tell Uso what kindof games you work on yeah, so the first game I worked on was smite battlegroundof the Gods it's on pcxbox switch and Psfour, and then I started Paladinschampions of the realm as one of the lead developers. I did that for acouple years, and then I also worked on Realmroy ALB, which ended up beingnumber four on steam. Charts on launch with over a hundred thousand peopleplaying hous are one of our biggest ones, and then I also worked on amobile game called boss measures that didn't actually shit. It was going tobe for Ios anindroid, Nice. That's awesome, T speakin, a games, look atthis little game or over here, and we hade this little complaint from a Gamer.So he told me than fortnight so the what is it the game director offortnight needs to start connecting with the fans again because fortnightis falling off. That is not you, but you ever get another one that blows up,like the other one didn make sure you...

...don't gos connection with the LittleGuy. It's o hard right, because they I mean they've, been you know or IG StillRottiv ly newds, what like three or four years since they made the Batoyalversiosion. But you know they've been doing an excellent job and there's, Ithink, there's like over a thousand people at epic working specifically onfortnight, and so they don a lawesome job, doing it oing something right.Yeah he's just hard to keep Hem instred every day. All Day, all year for yearson end right and there's always going to be things that you make a decisionthat might be a long term decision and it's going to suck in the meantime youhave to muscle through and then it gets to Easo no still play because hecomplains about it. As you see Te, I ot N O play yes they're going to play, butlet's get into a little love is blind Oroi. So I was one of the last ones castedthey actually found me. I think et was on instagram. They justsend me a message whone of the casting he casting agents and they kind of toldme the prese. You didn't apply they well, you think about it. If it's thefirst season, they don't want to be putting out lots of language around theshow right they kind of want to keep it hush hush. So they don't want o Legworjust finding people. No, I know so that's because I'm in the entertainment,injur industry, so I get casting calls all the time about reality show so thatactualplay is a thing that reality shows do. But that might be why love isgline with viral because they really found people organically. So that'scool, but finish your sthreat, that's interesting yeah. So I was actuallyagainst going. I said no twice they kept pushing. They really wanted me toGassi was, I think I think everyone was casting because we shot the show inOctober, O thousand and eighteen, I thinkthey're. They were casting for about nine months before that, but I waspicked up. I think a month and a half before we shot the show. So there wasvery kind of like rush when they you know we did a couple interviews and wedid the wholle process and they were like really onboard. They wanted me tobe part of the show so lik kind of went on it, but it was n know I was againstit at first, but the idea was so fascinating and interestedg. I was justlike you know what let's just see what this is about. It's after saying: no twice what madeyou say. Yes, the third time. Well, it was like cas you think about it. Youhave to take two to four to six weeks off from work right and I was you knowI was running a department, so it's like finding people to make sure thatdoesn't fall apart while I'm gone and you know training people and all thatlike that is, like you know, do I have enough PTO to do this and you know alot of like real world considerations came into it that it's like you know,there's there's definitely a wide stigma for reality. TV Right Li is this:it sensational is this going to be genuine like how is this going to becasted? What are they going to use? And you also, you know that you're kind ofin there being wash twent o seven, you know, do you? Are you careful aboutyour vernacular? You know, are you going to, like, you know, run out ofsleep or get drunk too much once and do something stupid? Like there's alwaysin like Eri, Wole life and your yeah, like your fired or gone, your cruisstupid Cor, this Guy Rig n. So I'm curious that you, this should be emver.Tell you because, like for them to come back to you twice multiple times, ifthey ever tell you what about you, made them really want sho to be on the show.No that mean they didn't really they just like. Please reconsider you knowwe don't live to, have you and those kind of things. So I honestly don'tknow I have to imagine, there's probably some rules of engagement froma production team like that where they don't want to get to too much of theirpuppe teering right. They want to make sure it's organic and they're, notinteracting too much with the people. So I don't know what it was, but youknow off I went eah. What did you tell work thatcurious brought that off? Well, I obviously I asked kind of myclose friends in coworkers. What they thought right like is this something Ishould do and almost all of them were fifty fifty right. Half of them werelike o once in a lifetime opportunity go, do it, it should be fun. Neitherhave for like your stupid wire, even...

...considering this is going to blow up inyour face and like all those things- and I just told him, you know what I'mjust going to go. Do it and you know, there's there's a variable amount oftime right, because the experiment itself was ten days, but the followingvacation and gvication was you obviously thewase, two weeksliving together there in the Gat to get married and all that s like opentiallyhaving to take four to six weeks off variable right, so you don't reallyknow. I just said you know it's going to e minimum two weeks and then maybe I'll, let you know, let's see youknow, aca, that's crazy. What was like thefirst day like in the house? Well, so we got there and I think a lotof people were trying to just get their dip their toe in you know everyone'slike okay. What is this? People are trying to play? It cool- or you knowlike laughing and looking at the things, but I think what was interesting for mebecause I I've done like gaming events and things like that. I'm used to Ihaving very much a structure Feras. This one was very much like, like theyjust released us like doves into the room and then just said, go right, likeit arethey're very anine, oommates, yeah they're, just like hey. This isthe room by and we're like. What did you know? Anonelikewhen you got her,I you sefamilir faces. Well, we I think we each had a producer, and so Idefinitely recognized my producer because him and I were in contact uptila show and then I got to meet. Everyone else. Is Producers and all the people,but no there wasn't any really anyone that I was like I knew beforehand.There were people that knew each other, but I didn't know anyone well so, okay,so after they released you into the wild like the Dubu are how many daysdid like. Did you start to? Did you notice one person right away? Yes, so my first date was with Dan Yelland we had a connection immediately so the first day we did speed dating sothere were fifteen guys and fifteen girls and you had to talk to each othem.I think for seven minutes, and so you just did like this all fifteen and thenright. I thatwud yeah sraiht through all hem just kept going, and so webasically do two sets of dates. We do morning dates in evening or night timedates, and so we do the morning dates and we come back and then in theafternoon we would like make a list of who we liked, and then they would crossreference our lists, and then we do. Nighttime dates do people, and so itstarted out with fifteen it cut down to eight, and then it slowly worked itsway down to two oo like so. My question is like, for instance, was there somebody thatyou really kind of knew that had a connection with someone else that maybethat's why you did't pursue them, but had they not Hedi Connection? Would youhate pursued them? I don't think so. I mean I was kind ofgoing home about Danielle, most of the time, basically all the time, but therewas definitely a lot of leve triangles going on and some competitions and Ifound out at the very end one of my my best friends in the show Matt was alsointo Danielless. We had our own little love triangle and she had to choosebetween us at the end and I think, on the the proposal day match just got upand left just walked out like just left the whole play. Yes,just left. What do you mead just left? Like I mean? Where did he go? He justleft the building he just got up gave a speech said: I'm not gonna, I'm notgoing to play by your roles and just left, and that was the end of it. Asthe La Thete was the day of reposals right, so he just didn't propose to getmarried. Yeah just got up and left, and so I mean I think my sureour loveTrangal didn't get aired. Obviously, if you have the footage still but yeah,that's I mean it was a. It was an interesting one to find out that meanit makes sense right. The people that you connect with would probably begoing out the same women, and you know that Yeah Yeah Yeah that bonus episode. Then we do. I think it was actually three ofthem. Three yeah take all the behind the scens, because for the show to beso successful you know they obviously chop it down and how they wanted it,but now that they know we like the product.Yes, love is won. We want to see the behind the scene. I want to see hislove triangle...

Wa to ee. I wantto see Itall Yeah there,r some good moments. What was that? What was that like? Were you likedisappointed that didway did you know you didn't know the time you weren'tgoing to get haired right? No, I mean none of us knew. I mean the people thatwent on had no idea what it was going to look likeike or when it was going togo. They kind of just dropped it and we had to you know roll with it right. Sowere you like disappointed when it came out and you weren on it like fully so Imean it was like a year and a half from the shooting to that's right, so we hadto wait an we wad to be quiet about it, the whole time, but you know no. I wasjust like okay. What's done as done, I don't have contol of the final product,so I just kind of forgot about. I was like whatever like. I can't conrol this.Let's just move on and then two weeks before the Showeir, they dropped thetrailer and that's when I started like getting anxious. A's like Oh yeah. That thing I did. I forgot yeah, none of us knew hat was going to be inthe final edit or how they going t use it or how many episodes. So I was a little disappointed at first tosee how everything got chopped up ut. I totally understood just because Ididn't continue you on and I didn't get married. So obviously they have to youknow if Netlix only wants ten episodes and the're the publisher and they'repaying for it and it's whatever they want to fit into ten episodes, and theycertainly e mean, I think, t e. The ten days in the pods was enough content forits own CDs on or two right like there's just so much that happenedthere that they could have done that a separate thing. So I have a question: Are there anycouples that you aren't surprised made it like that? You just knew like thatcouple had chemistry and that they were probably going to make the long thelong walk yeah. So I knew I knew laurenand camera were going to make itfor sure I mean they were starstruck from day one. I knew that Matt orBarnet and amber were going to make it, because I spent a lot of time kind ofcoaching and no wait a you know they were going to make it and he was datinglike a hundred people. Well, I knew that he had the tryfective, but I wastalking to Bardan most times like multiple times day. Like almost alot of the time I spent in the lounge, I was spending time with Barnett andDamien and trying to help them because, like they were kind of, what do I do?What do I choose is such a permanent decision. How do I figure this out? Sowoit help them, and since I still had dates with like Geniana and amber andelst, I would h help them ther like through the Pos as well. Just like hey,you know, matts or Barnetts, choosing all these girls he proposed to just go.Know S poposing to me like what should I do so I would like help them throughthe pod of like okay, let's figure out what you're looking for and who you'reafter, and so I spend a lot of time with those I think Genata and Damianand Amberan Barnette were the ones I was pretty confident just because Ipent so much time talking to them an I knew. Lauren and camera were definitely going to make it.The rest of them were kind of up in the air, because you know either ight like diamond and Carlton. I didn't have toomuch interaction with like as far as like on a personal level, so obviouslywe hung out in the lounge with Carlton, but across the Potid have too much inreshment diamond. So those I did AL wasn't super confident on Okaye Asos I mean because that's. Iwould think that if you're there you can fuill the chemistry so yeah Wel, itwas just I mean we were. We were talking about love and marriage andeverything for eighteen to twenty hours a day and we're going in and out ofdates constantly and we were in the lounge constanty and talking co Ho wasthe sleep. How much was a set schedule like what? What was the schedule like adaily Orto Di Day in the Morningan? They said all right today, you're goingto do this, you can take a nap at this time today, like you're, going to eatit this time or was it free flowing it was you need to be out in the lounge atthis time way to get up to D, Get ready and all that, and then they would startthe process of getting us into our morning days. They would tell us youknow, because there was ten pods total and they would say okay, these thisnumber you're in next, and then they would pull us out and do all that andthen, like it t, we all got pretty tiredbecause they gave us the option to go to sleep for some of the night datesand yeah. You know, since we're about to make a big decision. All of USwanted to just keep talking, so we kind of worked ourselves kind of dry and alot of us end up taking naps in the...

...lounge and between dates and thingslike that. So Yeah Wha. What do you think about like,like all the memes going around that are of you? I think they're, I think, they're holme go everyone mee, I mean most people ere, like he's a plan to producer. Ithink that is a complemex hit. Just means that you know. Maybe it's justthe way I speak or the way I carry myself. It stands out, which is good T.it's a positive thing. Isi was thankful for that, and then there was a coupleones that were just absolutely hilarious because it's fun when you cankind of see what someone else's perspective of you is like someone said,I was a a tall, Tyrian lanister and that one was just amazing. That wasjust like such a interesting. I think it's because, like Iwas Saing Tor Angle,like my head, is like similar yeah, so at's Super Co. Peter Ting Lich is anawesome Peresan, I'm so glad that's there, but it's just there's piecesthere and then a lot of people told me that my voice sounds like Ryan rennalds. So I don't. I don't hear it because myvoice, but I've gotten out a likelike, lavley's husband. Okay, I like thatthat Tar, but the first one was so spotal and how tall are you IA'm, sixORT three, so you're, like the literally theCoryou guys gotta like get a Photosib, put a photo of like put it right therein the corner, because that's amazing, that's amazing! ALLRI. Are we done th?What th the loves blind going on to the average to savage questions? No, what about s now Iwas gonna? I was going to ask tolike. Has This changed your way that you look at love, absolutely yeah? I think you know I dida couple interviews on this as well and I think it's the side of the potexperiment. I hope at some point gets more coverage because I think it's a really good commentaryand where we are now in the modern day right, because you know it took ourphones away, we had no distractions, we had no responsibilities, we alll tookhi off of work and we were just there without any electronics o anything elsegoing on, and a lot of US ended up kind of getting in touch with ourselves orkind of coming face to face with our baggage, in anticipation of beingsomeone's partner Righti's. Like a lot of it, we had withrow a lot ofemotional breakdowns and breakthroughs, and a lot of us grew and changedbecause of you know us just being in this ten day, meditation exercise ofjust being alone. In this thing right, I think that was kind of a big eyeopener, and it also you know you treat someone differently if you'reintending to propose to them, then, if you're just on a first date right likelike okay, why h do this yeah you're like? Do you want kids? How many kidsdo you want? What is you know like how many times a day you want to have sexor a week like? What are you looking for in sex like you have to ask thesequestions right because you're about to be married to them? You have to knowwhat day today, life is going to be like and what their values ares askingthose questions, because once they had to get to regular life where theyweren't in the pods anymore, some couples. Just you know it was differenttransition, so you might have been ahead of the curve asking those thingsit's important man Cho about religion and all those other things right likeyou want to know the whole gambit if you're out to either not you know, haveyou have you dated since the engagement ended? Are You gating right now? Oh I'm doingright now, yeah, oh so, you're, finding La okay! So todoes the person you were dating, they know about your whole love. I love asbline experience. Yeah. Of course interesting is the first O I here inAtlanta, I'm INA. Are you hering, O Lan as well? I guessyou are yeah. Thi, like rait fir B, Ar you guys doing your ownexperiment likebecause it's almost like e potof game, where we're we'res Sucking our houses,that's kind of the joke right is that, like this is basically the quarantine addition of love isblind right. That's what everyone's t figured out. It's it's interesting,because it's a forced...

...distance relationship for a lot ofpeople, and I think that they'll probably be some interesting studiesinto how many marriages or upple started. How many broke up like whathappened and e Rona Baby Yeah. You know the quarantines, the CORTATON and WW. Do you know if there's going tobe season to there is going to be a season to it is going to be cast inChicago and they are catasing right now. Wowow. Is that breaking news? No, Imean they announced. I think I knew that. I knew that so you'R O for awhile Guesi'm late, I'm lat allright sign up. I'm Noti'm good allrigh se ready for some fun questionsAr Ougo from average savage hure. What's your favorite song right now, myfavorite song right now good question: I suck it favorite questions. I haveSOMON it's probably some Edm Song. I've been listening, a lot tofood fighters as well in the last couple days, just hit a it a wind. Youknow: Okay, okay, what was your aim name back into. Awel is the Messengerdays, I'm already a TAS reported for duty, I'v Inte, the Chack Nice. I thinkmine was like Zyreal. It was somet like Edg, like Ois, like you like a Gamerfrom first, Oh yeah, I've been gaming since I was like in the single digitsof a hardcore yeah. How D you get the name o dry bear right is that you saytyeah. So when I started doing casting and contencration and the stage work, Iwanted to kind of have like my online name, and I want to SOM thing. It wasunique and easy to say and memorable, so I just kind of it's like looselybased on. If you're ever in a snowy state, they call Driv bears the peoplethat stay inside instead of going out and playing the snow, O kind of likehad the little element of like yeah game or whatever, but it's also, Ithink it's easy to say easy toemember and it's also just kind of innocent. It's Col, IIL, fun name tosay you know really cool name. So, what's something like? What's somethingpeople don't know about you Hiddin townes, something that no one Ishouldn' say. No one Cao people know something about most people. I don't know. That's a good question.Like I said I don't. I don't really ha e to have a good inmentory of ID inTallen you played a sport in high school can Yoa I played Lacrosse inhigh school. I used to play saxophone, that's interesting, yeahs. WHAT CA Y edding re ready in case you need topropose at any moment. No, I don't. Okay, just care just a case D. Youguystneh Oman see that's yl. You need to get onthe show. If anybody was proparing it like. Let me get. Let me get that ring.That's right and my last one: what's your top fivefavorite video games, Oh God, the the hardest question everiwould say: Fivel. Fifty seven is up there and they just thet, just alllauch the first episode of the remake, which is awestom fi s, seven, probablywarcraft ree world, O warcraft, counterstrike and then yeah ill blow, probablyTheablo Yeablo. Your PC got right. I would yeah, I started out, was pc guyand then, when I joined the gaming industry, you know obviously especially like, like dri like Ovangave drect riht that kind of play all platforms so started playing I mean andmy peak I was I was trying to force myself to play like thirty new games aweek, just like get a sense of the mark was going on pray like download phonegames and console games and PC games and keep trying them and all that stuff.It's good to know like. What's out there d whan people are digging yeah for sure I don't know. I don'tknow if I want to play that many games, though some of them only quite for an hourright like it or not. Ariht this one, this one stinks next Eah or that it's Ikind of get it like get what they're...

...doand I see what Genrethis is, and youknow how they're making their money and all that stuff, so yeah trigall right.Well, I appreciate you coming on and could you have the listeners know wherethey could follow you at yeah? You can find me online n, socialat Roarin, Nobro, Rui, newbro or dry bear, and then you can just Yitheryou.Go All righ gain appreciate it. Thank you hat think s go much as beenpleasure.

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