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Ross Stripling and Cooper Surles | Average To Savage EP99

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This is the ninety-ninth episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring Los Angeles Dodgers pitcher Ross Stripling and Cooper Surles of The Big Swing Podcast. This was our first recorded Zoom video interview and the first time interviewing two people. Paul Guarino talked with Ross Stripling and Cooper Surles discussing how they met each other, why they created The Big Swing Podcast, and their love for sports. Follow The Big Swing Podcast https://www.instagram.com/bigswingpodcast Follow Ross Stripling https://www.instagram.com/ross_stripling Follow Cooper Surles https://www.instagram.com/coopersurles This podcast interview with Ross Stripling and Cooper Surles was originally recorded March 23, 2020

This is the average to savage podcast with Paul Greno everyone in anyone, athletes, swebs and much more so up everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the average savage podcast. Our special guests today is raw strippling and Cooper searles. Ross, Cooper, how was it going? It's going on, man. How you doing, man, how you don't do it? Well, appreciate you guys coming on today. Yeah, happy to be here and yeah, I know it's a little weird time right now with corona. So Ross, like, where were you? You're in spring training and now now, where are you now? So we decided to go ahead and come on home to tex has just once they the eight weeks without, you know, groups of fifty or more. That basically, you know, killed the ability to have your team together in a full workout and basically also meant that we weren't going to have baseball until the middle of May. So we went ahead and decided just to come on home to Texas and ride this thing out where we feel the most comfortable and close to family. So that's how we ended up here. Yeah, for sure. About what about you, Cooper? Yeah, I mean we're still kind of going to work the same way, honestly, at company that I work at, and we're just kind of playing it out and played by her. Obviously take a precautions not going to see people. Now have people in our office, but you know, it's that balance between like life goes on and obviously protecting the situation, and so yeah, we're kind of sitting in the middle here. But as far as being at home, we're taking precautions when we can and staying inside as much as we can. So you're working from home? Yeah, a little bit of both. A lot of people are still in the office. My job is a little bit more flexible so I can kind of be back and forth, but yeah, certainly a lot of people are still going to the office every day and and you know business has to keep going on. People out of pay their bills and so there's there's that fine line for sure. Definitely it's kind of weird for me before own apartment building and the fire alarm went off and only happen one time. I've been here for like three years and like so everybody had to go outside like it was a big fire alarm and I was just like wow, it's like the first time I seen like a group of like more than two people in the weeks and weird and it's like I'm in Connecticut and it all sudden started snowing hailing today. So that was weird. Did it really? I don't know where, because I mean really, that's a crazy of the people in la that are just like at the beach like nothing's going on, playing massive games of pick up basketball and stuff. Those videos are while yeah, I'm kind of getting confused by all that stuff, but it's kind of like are you not? Are You doing it purposely or you like just I don't know, it's weird. So Weird. Great. Yeah, I mean the videos that I saw, all the quality of basketball was not great. There was a lot of easy there was a lot of easy shots that were missed down in the paint. So maybe the real hooper stay to yeah, that's the first time the be squads able to take over the court. Yes, true opportunity in there, like this is our moment. Yeah, I mean that the other crazy thing was, I think it was last week when UFC danaway was just like now we're still going on and then like yeah, we're waking up the next morning and then they're like everything's canceled, but he was like so sure that everything was going to go on. I mean it could have. Me It would have been obviously awesome for the UFC because they would have been the only sport playing. Or yeah, I mean Ross and I were talking about the the best social, social distancing thing to do right now is probably to play golf. So if you're a god for at all, like this is a perfect time. You're spending time at home, you're like at any time, four hundred yards away away from the next person. So think God's really the only sport it's like still be able to play, for sure. So're going into how did you guys have? Did you two meet? Yeah, so, Ross and I both went to Texas a andm but we weren't really friends there, but my wife and his wife were best friends, though we were kind of forced to hang out and thankfully we ended up liking each other. But yeah, so we sort...

...of were thrust into it and then once we both were out of college and kind of into our careers, we started to hang out more and yeah, just became a good friendship. Yeah, I mean that's exactly how I put it. You know, we just happen to have wives that are best friends and we're starting to hanging the GIS of a man with. One day we're just like let's let's dive into this podcast thing and see what we can do. And you know, over a year later we're still cruising along. Yeah then, what? Yeah, what made you guys want to do the podcast? Yeah, no reason in particular. I mean we always had a pretty good banter back and forth about sports and other stuff whenever we would hang out, and I love podcast I've listened to him for a long time, and so we kind of do. Were going over some of the ones that I love and it just organically came up that maybe we could do it on our own. And I think Ross and are both the type of people that once we put our head onto something, then we're going to really see it through. So we just made the necessary step. Since sort of just been learning as we go and we've gotten a lot better. I remember the first couple times we did it, the idea of feeling like thirty, forty five minutes seemed impossible, and now it just seemed second nature to us. We've learned as we gone and I will say it, I am not tech savvy. At all. This would never exist it wasn't for Cooper and what he does behind the scenes. Man, it's it's all you. Here is my voice. Everything else is cooper, and without him the big swing wouldn't be where it is. So, man, it's a it's a big project. It's not easy to do a podcast, as you know, and like, for instance, we're doing this on zoom. We didn't even know this existed. Yet it seems perfect for a podcast and somehow we didn't even know about it. So, you know, there's so many things out there that we still need to learn and get better at, but you know, just kind of learned on the flood. It's pretty crazy. I mean I just use this actually for like work meeting and stuff, and then I was like Yo, let me try. I was like, let me figure out how to record on this, and I did the other day. Then I was just like we try to interview with you guys, video interview, and here we are. Yeah, and I'd you come up with the bit the name the big swing podcast. Yeah, that was that was a lot of trial and error with the first one we wanted was the scoop right, because I'm stripped. He's coop the scoop just sounded perfect, and you know that that was taken. I think there's maybe ten podcasts with basically that in its name, plus the domain name. All that was taken, which we should have known, but we were all fired of about the scoop. And then it was just basically forty eight hours of texting back and forth different names. And you know I'm a baseball player, but we didn't want it to be just baseball only and we know we wanted to keep it broad and, you know, not pigeonhole ourselves to baseball, even though the big swing still has kind of a baseball mantra around it, which is good because obviously we do talk a lot about a bit about baseball. But you know, I think I don't know who necessarily come up with a big swing. It was one of the five hundred thousand names we were sending each other over the course of two days and that one was like it's perfect, let's roll with it. Yeah, people always ask me like which pointy all came up with a big swing, and I never have an answer for it because we literally probably text each other like five hundred times in two days. So it could have been any one of the US. It could have been a combination of like five different names, I don't know, but we landed on it. We were kind of like, man, that's actually pretty good. We probably should have thought that sooner. Definitely. Yeah, I like how you guys call your listeners the swingers to yeah, yeah, I'll take credit for that. I don't know if the wives love that, but I love that one. Yeah, it is good. Yeah, it could be a miscommunicated on some people if they don't know the podcast. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I remember. Yeah, that's a that's that's a reason why, too, I didn't name I like my PG sports podcast. I didn't even name it that because I didn't want people to associate I only did sports, because I have a like entrepreneurs and like actors accrets. That's where I've been like pretty much interviewing anybody now.

So it's like interesting to see just hear other people stories, and just athletes pretty much. One of the biggest reasons we did this was, you know, it's just fun to take an hour or two a week to just kind of disappear down a conversation, put your phones away and dive into someone else's life. And obviously my network is mostly baseball players, so that's the easiest guests for me to attain. But some of the most fun podcast we've had for ourselves personally have been other sports or not even in the sports world. I mean we've had actors, like you said, on we had CJ McCallum, Mike Evans, you know. So to talk about something other than baseball, especially for me when I just live baseball, to them for seven has been some of the funnest things about this podcast and just been a good outlet for me to kind of, you know, basically escape baseball for a while and talk about other things. Well, I think the interesting part two is we've seen so many of you, even baseball players, are athletes in general, that we've interviewed. It seems like they seem to get more fired up when we talk about stuff, whether it just be like a weird rabbit hole question or talking about their foundation or anything like that. So we've seen that people seem to get really fired up when they're talking about the thing we're not interviewing them about. Yeah, I don't know how you guys feel after a podcast, but usually, probably like ninety nine percent of time, I feel like more motivated after like talking to somebody else about just their story. Pretty much. Yeah, I oftentimes feel very, very worthless because I don't have a lot Gong on compared to a lot of these guys. Oh, I don't know, I guess I never felt like I felt worthless now, but I hear you. I mean it is cool, I mean especially, I think, the charitable side of it, like we were talking about. So many of these guys that we've interviewed have a unique opportunity to touch people's lives and ways that, you know, not necessarily the normal person would, and for them to kind of take that opportunity to run with it has been really cool to hear about. Yeah, definitely, and we're all going to your baseball Oker. I was list to a podcast actually, and you said like you didn't think you're going to make a maybe releaks. So why didn't you think that? Well, I mean I didn't pitch till I was eighteen, so I was near the whole pitching thing and and had to walk on in college and, you know, enjoyed college baseball and was good at it while I was there, but really kind of focused on getting a degree and what life was going to be like after college. I never, you know, really thought that Major League Baseball was in my future, and then you kind of just get bigger and stronger as you develop. You know, I was kind of a late bloomer, so I developed a lot in my early s and all of a sudden you have people, scouts, coaches, other players, telling you like hey, you have a chance to, you know, at least play at the next level when they go in the minor leagues and that kind of thing. And even as you get into the minor leagues, you know, you just as a guy that didn't pitched all was eighteen, I was kind of in awe of some of these players just how developed they were, how they would think when they're on the mountain. I'm just kind of up there chunk and learning on the go here and man, it was just kind of a big learning curve, you know, where I never really thought that the major leagues was in my future. Obviously you're working in striving for that. That's the dream, but I think, man, it just took me a long time to realize that, you know, I could actually make it. And then once you get there, like okay, how do I say this is awesome. It's crazy. Yeah, and I know you guys both went to Texas A and M. What did you guys study there? Yeah, so I was kind of in a communications degree. I didn't really know what I'm wanted to do and now I'm not using that at all, but I guess the podcast is kind of a kind of ramp fat up a little bit now, finally, but the thing that actually pays my bills has nothing to do with my degree. But in the same token, the connections that I gained at an him had everything to do with my current job. So yeah, so I studied fine ants, which is where the whole stock market thing kind of stand I mean both my grandparents, my father,...

...and very involved in the market. So I just was exposed to the finance world at a young age and and really kind of really fell in love with it and studied in school, got my degree and then obviously pursued it as kind of a fallback for baseball and something that I'm passionate about. Look at every day times like this, it's stressful and it's not very fun, but actually really these are the Times sometimes that you pray for if you got some cash on hand, because you're going to get a chance to buy some blue chip stables of our economy. It's some really discount of prices. So it's it's fun. I enjoy it. Glad I studied it. It's a big passion of mine. Well, I got to ask, is there any any stocks you're looking at right now? Yeah, you know, I wish I could tell you, man, I really do. It's just too much of a liability. If I tell you to go by, you know, stock Xyz and it tanks, you can actually sue me and I'd get in a bunch of trouble since I'm actually licensed. And the biggest thing, and is just think about the absolute staples of our economy, like companies that are going to survive crazy times like this and are going to still be around fifty years from now, and they just got cut almost in half and share price. I mean that's that's a pretty big discount to buy some of the biggest companies in the world. So those would be the ones I would look at. Yeah, and, like you think it's valuable now that you have a degree, and I know some like major leaguers, are just baseball players in general, leave earlier, just go straight to a professional baseball. Right. I mean I think it's extremely valuable in general and something to be really proud of and something that you work hard for and you know, I should be proud of that achievement. There's not a lot of professional or sorry, not a lot of major league baseball players that had degree. So I'm in a small little group there, which is pretty cool. And you know the idea that only one percent of guys in the minor leagues make it to the big league's so to have a degree to fall back on and then to be able to kind of network yourself while you're playing baseball in the minor leagues and moving your way up and have something to fall back on, like I said, it's I think it's a big deal and if you have a chance to get your degree, you know, I there's countless guys that I talked to there like, Oh yeah, I'm six hours away. It's like six hours away. I go finish your degree, man, like this, this life isn't guaranteed. Go, go, get your degree. It's a huge deal and something to be really, really proud of. So I always try and urge people to finish their degree that they can well and just the other part of it's just like it was the best four years of my life and yeah, I'll just say that right now. So I would obviously I don't have a baseball career that I'm falling back later on degree, but just the idea that I would have given up for the best four years of my life would be tough to give up for me. Yeah, yeah, I definitely agree with you. I remember like people saying that before college and I was just like that, I don't know if it's well, now I agree that it probably was. Where'd you go to school? I went to the Shigahard University and Fairfield knat small dy one. Cool. Yeah, if you guys ever played a probably smoking there something. I think we might have played you guys. Yeah, yeah, because I mean they go down shout every at the start up. Yeah, I think we might have early in my career, like my freshman sophomore year. It's really rings a bell. I'm not positive, though. Oh good. Yeah, what's your guys process like for the PODCAST, like getting it, getting up, getting the guests and then like what do you have the research stuff like that? Yes, so, obviously, with Ross's connections, a lot of the guests are gotten through him and then, you know, he knows a lot of these people, so he sort of is mainly responsible for developing a lot of the questions involved with like the personal side of things, and then me, as a fan, I just try to find stuff that I think would be interesting for people to hear and I have a lot of questions that I would love date to hear four people and now having the opportunity to ask those questions. It's been really cool. But it really the aising part, I think, for us so far is it the total team effort that we've had. Like a lot of the technical stuff is fall on me and then, of course, with Ross's network, a lot of the guests have fallen on him, so we've really kind of...

...share the load on a lot of it. Yeah, totally agree. I think it's a fifty split. As far as process, it's you know, really I think some of our best podcasts have been the ones where we don't have a superstructured kind of you know, outline and to what we want to ask. I think the ability that we've learned is to kind of go down some of these rabbit holes that you go down. You know, it's it's if a guy is passionate about something that he's talking about, the last thing you want to do is be like, okay, let's get back on track and talk about this, you know. So it's been a learning curve for us, but I think we've gotten a lot better as we've gone, like Cooper talked about earlier. First, you know that Mike Evans interview, I think, was like fifteen twenty minutes. Like we battled to get fifteen minutes out of Mike Evans versus. Now we can't hardly get anyone to shut up or ourselves to shut up before we get to an hour. You know. So it's gotten a lot more fun, a lot more fluid for us. But as far as process, it's it's kind of just relying on how much better we've gotten in the last year and just rely on our ability to keep a conversation flowing rather than forcing anything, and I think to just with Ross and I, you know, having more episodes under our belt. We trust each other in in doing the podcast. That like I know if I can go down rabbit hole and he's going to get me back on track or vices. So that's helps a lot. You know, knowing that you know we have our stuff together and we can we can figure it out if we kind of get off track. Yeah, I mean I remember, I was I remember my first episode I ever did. I didn't really write questions and I started writing questions. Now I'm back. I'm not. I don't I don't even write questions anymore. I do the reason, but then I just don't want to do questions just exactly what you were just talking about, like when they're just talking about something random and you don't want them. You don't want to give them all track. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's always. It's always the follow up question to the question you had prepared here. That always turns out better. Yep, YEP, exactly. The research side is good, because you want to be able to introduce you the person is right, you know, you want to be able to say, like, you know, this is cooper, the big swing podcasts. He was draft in the first round, like whatever it is, like you want to give some back and yeah, and you know, and stuff like that, and then just like have some bullet points that, yeah, you, you know, are struggling with putting out a sentence or whatever. They can look at and me like, Oh, I see that. You almost threw a no hitter in two thousand and sixteen. What was that like? You know? As opposed to knowing that one hundred percent, you have to ask that question at some point in the interview. Yeah, and then what about? Have you guys had interviews were you're like, Oh, this is only twenty minutes, but there was so much information? And then sometimes you might have like a long one. You're like that one like drag down. Yeah, for sure, and there's a lot of them were like you get through forty five minutes and I look at my notes I'm like there was four things that I think would have been super interesting that I just totally forgot to ask, and you just kind to get caught up in the conversation. And that doesn't mean it necessarily the stuff you recorded wasn't good, but there's there's so many times where I have interesting stuff that I've written down that I'd never even get a chance to ask. And some people just talk more than there's no week. Try and keep it in the thirty to forty minute range. I think only the Joe Rogans of the world can go over an hour and keep people entertained. You know, it's just I don't think we're Joe Rogan and some people. You know, you ask them a simple question and they go down like a little four minute tangent of what they childhood was like and like all this stuff, and you know you got to kind of like bring them back down to Earth here a little bit. And then, like, I mean, you can hear it in us. Every now and then I go on a ten minute ran about something. You know, it's just everyone's a little bit different. Everyone's passionate about different things and some subjects get people fired up more than others and all of a sudden you've eaten up half your clock before you've gotten anywhere close to what you want to say. The funny thing that I was do, like I always go back and do the research again like after and then I'm like pain, like I wish I would, I wish I asked that question, or like I see something that just posted recently on social media, like I wish I just asked them about what they just do. Yeah, I'm always so critical. I know of me personally because I edit...

...the podcast for us, so I have to listen back to it like in two or three times while I'm editing, and then make sure it's all working. So like by it's time it's actually where the listeners listening it? To it. I've listened to it three or four times already, so it it. Yeah, I hate hearing my voice, for sure. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's yeah, I feel you on that too. At first, at first I didn't, like now I'm going to hate looking at myself too. Yeah, but yeah, first, I first I didn't listen to it either, and then I started to listen to it like after I released it, just to see, just to like get the feel, like what the audience was like. I was maybe I was thinking about that, like Coope, if we start using this a lot of times, I'm just like sitting in my underwear in a road city recording a podcast, you know. Now, so we're and now we're going to do a video. I mean, I didn't know this one's gonna be video. I just usually my hair at least looks a little bit less fluffy than this, you know, at least a little little bit done, and I a shade. I looked like I have a mustache and this picture up here on the top left. Yet it's it's not great. You got to work on that. If we'RE GOING TO START DOING VIDEO? Oh, yeah, there's there's so many times H'm in hotel rooms like halfway eating a sandwich while you're going on a little rant or something. Yeah, we need to clean that up. We use this. Yeah, actually been going since it's the coronavirus and everyone's home. I've been going live like every day and can get like a guess them, and now I'm like, Oh, no, like I have to. Usually I don't have my hammer. Last time I'm just like recording the pockets. I'm like all right, now I got to kind of get like ready, get changed. Yeah, go on live and I'm like all right, so that but's kind of good because now I'm betting kind of used to being on camera more. Yeah, I think me and Ross got in the podcast the game, so we didn't have to see stre now. Yeah, now there's think that we have. We have faces for the podcast came out. Yeah, that's funny too, because my theory was like why? I was like why are podcast getting big? So I'm like thinking show people could probably do stuff and listen instead of like watch stuff, because you can't really do stuff while you're watching TV show. Yeah, for sure. So, yeah, it's crazy. I mean where do you guys think like podcast is going? Yeah, man, I don't know where else it can go, right. I mean it seems like it's sort of a medium that that, as far as how do you consume, it won't change. But I think the innovation in like subject matter will just continue to grow. I mean you literally can make a podcast about anything and pretty much at this point before doing that, and every celebrity almost has an podcast now. So I just think it's can get it continue to grow. It's such an easy place to listen. It's if you have a guest on, I think it takes a lot of the pressure off them, not being in front of a camera, not having the pressure of having to be perfect. So yeah, I think it's only going to continue to grow. Yeah, I would agree. I think it's the only I mean, as a guy that gets interviewed almost daily, podcast is where I show my real personality, and not even on my own podcast, when I go on other people's podcasts, I naturally relax a little bit for whatever reason. I know that's maybe not a good thing because that's when you can say something stupid. I mean, you hear it's examples of that all the time. It but I just think podcast seen as a great media outlet for athletes, I don't know, celebrities in general, to show the real personality that you don't ever show to the beat writer that just interviewed you after a game or whatever. You know, those stories are much more cut and dry as opposed to a podcast, which is an hour of just kind of like laid back, cutting loose and showing off, you know what you're really passionate about in your personality. Yeah, that's yeah, that's exactly why I like listen to him, just because, like, you hear the transparency and then you could like, I feel like you get to know the person like way more than like a and there in most of them are kind of like unfiltered, I guess you'd say. So like people are talking regular, like normal, like how they would talk to so yeah, yeah, and going into your career again, Ross like what was your first like Major League game?...

Like, good question. You know, it's it ended up going well, at least box score wise. We actually lost the game, but you know, when I look back at the debut, what I'll remember is just having like my friends and my family there in San Francisco and and then obviously you go seven and a third no hit and get pulled at a hundred pitches with a no hitter going, and I never had an opportunity like that to throw in ever again. So and I don't know if I ever will get another one. So it stinks to not know if I could have finished it. You know, in a perfect world, I've said this a million times, we're winning that game ten and nothing and Dave Roberts comes out there and says like look, but you got twelve more pitches, throw them down the middle and let's see if they hit it to someone, you know, kind of thing, as opposed to as a one nothing game, and it's you know, we're in San Francisco, are heated rival and you know, obviously we got studs in the back end of the bullpen to try and come in and close that game out. So it just didn't work out that way. But man, looking back, how special was is it to have a debut like that in front of so many of my friends in my family, like I mentioned, and it just really cool, something I'll remember forever and obviously cherish, and just a cool way to start your career. Yeah, I remember I actually watching it and I was before we were really that close and we definitely knew each other and I would consider US friends. But I remember tuning in just saying like yeah, I'll, you know, I'll watch a couple innings just in case it comes out. We I could say I watched it and and then you know, you know, no hits. First sitting, seconding, thirty, he just keeps going by and I'm like, I really about to watch nine innings here and and so I just got an anything to baseball. You ever watched? Yeah, that's yeah, and about ten years so. So yeah, no, I just remember like feeling like towards the six or seventh inning, it felt like it was the world series. In my head like it I was just so hype walk and it was. It was a lot of fun. Yeah, what other sports you guys into? I'll speak for Cooper and I'll I'll tell you he's into just about anything. is most recent one, now that all is downtime, he's into marble racing. Got A snapchat from his wife the other day of him just going ham with one of his buddies about marble racing. But now we're at the fantasy basketball and football players big time into both. You know, obviously the NBA, the NFL, Cooper at would say, is now developing a love for baseball, but it's been slow. I think it's more of a love for dodgers, since he knows them and is actually met a bunch of them. I think that helps. And other than that, man, you know, I thought this would be a good test to see what else I'm into, and it turns out I'm pretty shallow. I'm just into the the big three. I don't think I can get into bowling and marble racing and UFC or wwe. I'm a stick to the basics. Yeah, I mean, if you just give marvel racing a chance, it is the new way. It is a blast. Not I literally watched marble racing for no less than about two hours. I watched the time trials for each race and then the actual race. It is it's very dark over here at the SEARL's house right now, oh man. And but yeah, I'm the same with Ross. I love, you know, obviously loved NFL. I'm huge NBA Guy and then I was massive baseball fan growing up and kind of in the middle part of my life. I just lost the touch for it and doing the podcast I've really found a new love for it and and have enjoyed the pitching side of it a lot. Getting to talk to Ross and so many pitchers. That side of it's been really interesting for me to follow. So yeah, definitely getting back into baseball. Yeah, it's actually funny you say that too, because it's like my favorite sport, I would say, is baseball, but like the past few years I kind of, like I said, I felt out of love with it and I actually just did a couple of minor league and MLB players podcast and then I was just like dam like, yeah, now I now remember why I liked it and stuff like that. So pretty yeah, I'll speak up for baseball just for a second. It's just it's...

...it's it's an acquired taste, I guess, is a way you got to put it. You know, it's it's slow, not a lot of action, but if you grew up watching it and appreciate it for what it is, it's such a sophisticated sport and if you kind of understand into what goes into you know, second and third one out Mike Trout up the idea of like, okay, what's the strategy here? Kind of thing. You know, it's if you can kind of sit and understand baseball for what it is. It's unbelievable to watch and unbelievable think about what really goes into grinding through a hundred sixty two games. And I understand if you sit and watch a hundred sixty two games nine innings, night in and night they I think you might be a little bit crazy. But some people do it, man, and they love baseball and it's a sport in the class all of its own. If you ask me, yeah, back back in the day I can him like every single starter on every team. Yeah, like, definitely, we can do that. Right now, I don't think I can do that. I can't do that. I think the the part Ross you were saying, like it is such a sophisticated game and and if you are locked into a team, I think it's the most fun sports of fall. Like if you just are like hey, I'm a massive dodgers fan, I'm going to watch this four nights out of the week. It is the best sport to follow. But if you're just kind of a broad sports fan it, you know, the the problem baseball has is no one really cares about players outside of their team. Like where's? I don't know. NFL is so big with fantasy football, and then like you really care what Lebron's doing, whether you're Lebron Fan or not. So I think as is a broad thing. Baseball is kind of hard to follow, but if you have one team, it's the best. Yeah, yeah, I mean I think. Yeah, and like baseball, I feel like it's like you, most of people like the local team. Yeah, and not and not like football is like everybody likes anybody from in your yeah, agreed. Yeah, Ross, what advice would you give to like, a young athlete trying to make like or trying to be like a deal one scholarship, really trying to make a pro league? Yeah, I could ask this all the time team and I wish I had a head, a crystal ball I can share with every kid of what they should do, you know, and and really I just kind of leaning on what I did, which is play everything you know. Don't don't pigeonhole yourself to one sport because your parents said you need to or because you think you need to or whatever. Give everything a shot and find what you're passionate about. And don't put too much pressure on yourself. I mean it's so easy now to like get on instagram and, I don't know, feel the pressure to like be something that you're not or to live up to some you know, I don't know, and crazy expectation for yourself. And and I just think go and have fun. I mean there's sports, their games. They're meant to be played with your friends outside having fun, and I think the second that you take it too serious is the second you'll get burnt out on it. Obviously take it seriously in that you want to work hard and get better at it. But and if you're a thirteen year old kid and you say, and I'm going to focus on baseball only for the rest of my life, I don't know, I just I feel like you're taking opportunities away. And I mean, like I said, I'd even pitched all his eighteen man. I didn't necessarily love baseball. I love football and basketball and baseball is kind of a third sport, and then I fell in love with pitching and you know, if I would have never taken that opportunity and just try to focus on baseball, I mean focus on basketball, I would never be where I am today. So that's kind of what I say. Work Hard, find some you're passionate about, but try everything under the sun and I don't know. That's that's kind of what I said. When a dad asked me, is like how's my kid going to make the Big Leagus? I'm like, I don't know. I wish I knew. Don't spend five hundred bucks a week on lessons. I don't know what that necessarily helps. Just put a batness Handtelle, go outside and hit rocks. You know something fun? Now I definitely feel you and I think I think kid should definitely put multiple sports growing up. Are you got you guys ready for some fun...

...questions? Are gonna go from average savage. Yeah, let's do it all. What's your guys his favorite Song Right now? Who? Good question. I like the it's man, I was just listening to it. I like the blinded by the lights by the weekend. That song gets me kind of fired up. Also like diplow and someone else made a country song, man. I can't think of it. anyways, diplow country song checked out. I would say it's not necessarily new song, but I would say billy Eilishsa Ocean eyes. Yeah, Ge Jams, she's good. Man. If she was like whispers at you and you're like come into that. Yeah, what about Rawch? What we're about? Who's been your who was her favorite strike out against? Oh Man, good question. I always hate answering questions like these because I feel like they're going to see it and then they're just gonna be like that mother. I'm never going to let him strike me out every again. Favorite one was I came in out of the bullpen one of the first times I ever came in a bullpen in Colorado. There were multiple guys on Bas I remember the exact situation, but two outs and I struck out Nolan Aronado and I remember. I remember thinking that was pretty cool. Will as I've walked off the mountain that one, just because I was not used to come out of the bullpen at all. Also, don't necessarily strike a ton of guys out, especially no one Aroonato in Colorado, and I was able to pull that one off. That was a big one, I think that was. That was like early two thousand and seventeen. And what do you guys like to do in your free time? Besides, it's marble racing. Let me see, I don't have a lot of interest. But beyond marble racing. Now I would say one of my favorite things to do is I'd love to go to breweries. Like I love trying new beer and and going to breweries. I'm pretty much at home body for the most part, but if I do get out and do something, that's probably what it is. Yeah, I stay so busy between baseball, the PODCAST, the stock market stuff that I do, that my free time is usually a engulfed by my wife and whatever she wants to do, and usually it's something fun. It's never anything lame. So whatever she comes up with for us is usually awesome. She's really good at like diving into new cities. You know, let's say Chicago, New York, Miami, wherever we are, find a new place to eat, something cool specific to that city that we can go try that. We always try something new every time we go somewhere different. Yeah, leads up to my next one. What's your what's your favorite travel spot? I really like Chicago. I like really field, which is just obviously fun for the historic nature of the stadium and they've redone the locker room in the weight room and all that stuff would used to just be atrocious is now actually very nice and worth checking out. As a visiting player. When he used to be spent as a little time there as possible. And then the city of Chicago, I love you know. We stay there right off of Michigan Avenue, which is all those shops, restaurants, bars and stuff in there. That's really nice, really clean. You can walk around, no one ever knows who I am or anything like that. So we always like go on to Chicago. The food there's great and you know, it's just a cool baseball town and city in general. I'd probably say my favorite place that I've traveled to state side would be San Francisco. It just kind of feels like you're not in America. It feels like you may be in a different country or something. Obviously, like the physical landscape of it is pretty crazy, but you just you just can go to Chinatown get amazing Chinese food, there's a there's a Talian food, there's obviously Napa valley has incredible food and wine. So I would I would say San Francisco's my favorite city I've traveled to. I Love Sam brand true really cool city. Well, coming from the dodger. I know it's a fun place to go play baseball. Man, it really is. Who's you guys favorite athlete of all time? Who? Good question. I usually say Lebron. I mean, growing up a cowboys fan, you know, you could say like an Emmett Smith...

...or Troy Acheman, or even like a love Peyton Manning, and I loved Peyton manning man like right now it's Lebron. I just to think of the brand that he's built into basically take on the city of La and Kobe's legacy and go be a Laker when he could have kind of gone anywhere else and just, you know, done his thing. He went and took on the biggest responsibility that you could ever take in the NBA and to basically stink in the first year, get hurt and now, obviously we got a shortened season because of this virus, but to come back and play like MDP caliber basketball and when everyone's talking about the clippers and all this stuff, I mean it's just really, really cool to see what he's done for the NBA's basically empowered the players. I mean they are at a level that they've never been as far as how powerful their players are and it's a major difference between them and us and really other sports in general. If you ask me so, I would say Lebron. Have you have to meet him? No, I wish man. Yeah, he's The podcast Mecca that sets if we could have any guests, me and cooper both say it's Lebron. Yeah, definitely Lebron. Lebron would be my favorite athlete too. I kind of when he was in high school. I remember watching him play one time his junior season and I'm a returning to my friend and just being like that's my guy, like that's going to be my guy for the rest of his career. And to have that level of expectations on you be on sports illustrated, I think is a sixteen year old, and then to actually pan out and then, in the middle of your career, face more adversity, people doubting you, people doubting you, and then kind of go to this next phase of his career, go back to Cleveland win again. It's just incredible to see someone with that much expectation actually pan out and be great, and is it greater than we ever could have thought he was. And then, like Ross, had this next chapter in La like it's no easy task to take over a situation like that and to wield his power, get Anthony Davis and start this new dynasty. Potentially is incredible and I'm just sad that potentially this season's been cut short and we didn't get to see what he could have done. Yeah, is that a Lebron Jersey behind it? Yeah, it is there. Yeah, to lebroners. I Love Them. Yeah, and last one. Who would you guys want to do a Jersey exchange with? Oh Man, I wish that was a thing in baseball. Yeah, that's how you say. I want to I want to see you haven more in baseball. Maybe you could start off. Yeah, yeah, I'll be that guy. Yeah, I'll be that trailblazer. Well, what it does is it comes out of your paycheck. That's part of you know, like we pay for those if we give them away, which really it's not a ton of money, but if you're a start giving away every day, probably because hundred sixty two, I mean I think it's different. All right, times a hundred sixty two games. Yeah, I mean, in history I would want to trade with either Griffy or Nolan Ryan. In current baseball, I would probably choose trout. I mean you got to choose with troll. He's the Lebron James of Baseball and no one even knows who he is. It's absolutely why out. I think it's a good example of how other sports are able to brand themselves versus baseball players. Were really struggle with that, that you could have a superior athlete in the basically to the whole rest of the League and Mike Trout, and you know, is in a household name. Really Sorry, I'm going on a rant, but now I would say trout. Yeah, I love the the picture of those two guys that did the Jersey swap in Vegas, like after they were partying all night. They like swap their Hawaiian tee's. That so much, but I think that I think that would pick Tom Brady, like I feel like he's just like button others. I. Yeah, no, I thatts, but like he's just one of those guys I feel like that every player has respect for. Like there's not one guy that you ever heard come out and say like, Matt Tom Brady's not all that, or one teammate that says like, yeah, it''s he's not a great teammate. Like he is the goat in the eyes of fans and all the players.

So I think if I were an athlete to do a Jersey swap with him would just be a massive moment. I look all those rumors that came out that were like always coming in and demanding control of the offense and number twelve and all this stuff, and then he like came out and I was like, or so I think it's coach maybe came out and said, like, he didn't ask for number twelve, we didn't ask for anything about the offense. All he asked was for every teammate's phone number. Now I was like, yeah, he's get class as a great away his grab it. Yeah, all right, I got. I got one bonus question, because me and my friends been talking too about it. If he wins the super bowl year one at Tampa, because the super bowls in Tampa this year or next year, whatever you want to say, you think he's like the go of goats. Yeah, he's and Ye kind is the greatest American athlete of all time. Yeah, if you do that, I mean it's like him and Jordan, like there's no one else to live button to the Super Bowl in the first year that. Yeah, insane, and you got that will curse of it. Where the super bowls played and all that stuff. And if he does that, he's got a punt on that second year of the deal. And just get your son set, man. Yeah, you've done it. You'll be marrying sell and live your life. Yeah, Oh man, what a life for that guy. Good for him. Well, I appreciate you guys coming on and I could you let the listeners know where they can follow you at and personals in your podcast. Yeah, go to at big swing on twitter and instagram and we're on Itunes, spotify and anywhere else you can listen. It's called the big swing Ross and I've been doing it for a couple of years now. We have athletes on there, other people from other walks of life, baseball, football, basketball, pretty much everything. So yeah, go check us out on there and my twitter instagram is just at Cooper searles. Yeah, I guess I'm just at Ross strippling. Might be Ross underscore stripling, I can never remember, but yeah, check us out big swing podcast and we'll see you guys there.

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