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Ross Stripling and Cooper Surles | Average To Savage EP99

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This is the ninety-ninth episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring Los Angeles Dodgers pitcher Ross Stripling and Cooper Surles of The Big Swing Podcast. This was our first recorded Zoom video interview and the first time interviewing two people. Paul Guarino talked with Ross Stripling and Cooper Surles discussing how they met each other, why they created The Big Swing Podcast, and their love for sports. Follow The Big Swing Podcast https://www.instagram.com/bigswingpodcast Follow Ross Stripling https://www.instagram.com/ross_stripling Follow Cooper Surles https://www.instagram.com/coopersurles This podcast interview with Ross Stripling and Cooper Surles was originally recorded March 23, 2020

This is the average to savage podcastwith Paul Greno everyone in anyone, athletes, swebs and much more so up everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the average savage podcast. Our specialguests today is raw strippling and Cooper searles. Ross, Cooper, how was itgoing? It's going on, man. How you doing, man, howyou don't do it? Well, appreciate you guys coming on today.Yeah, happy to be here and yeah, I know it's a little weird timeright now with corona. So Ross, like, where were you? You'rein spring training and now now, where are you now? So wedecided to go ahead and come on home to tex has just once they theeight weeks without, you know, groups of fifty or more. That basically, you know, killed the ability to have your team together in a fullworkout and basically also meant that we weren't going to have baseball until the middleof May. So we went ahead and decided just to come on home toTexas and ride this thing out where we feel the most comfortable and close tofamily. So that's how we ended up here. Yeah, for sure.About what about you, Cooper? Yeah, I mean we're still kind of goingto work the same way, honestly, at company that I work at,and we're just kind of playing it out and played by her. Obviouslytake a precautions not going to see people. Now have people in our office,but you know, it's that balance between like life goes on and obviouslyprotecting the situation, and so yeah, we're kind of sitting in the middlehere. But as far as being at home, we're taking precautions when wecan and staying inside as much as we can. So you're working from home? Yeah, a little bit of both. A lot of people are still inthe office. My job is a little bit more flexible so I cankind of be back and forth, but yeah, certainly a lot of peopleare still going to the office every day and and you know business has tokeep going on. People out of pay their bills and so there's there's thatfine line for sure. Definitely it's kind of weird for me before own apartmentbuilding and the fire alarm went off and only happen one time. I've beenhere for like three years and like so everybody had to go outside like itwas a big fire alarm and I was just like wow, it's like thefirst time I seen like a group of like more than two people in theweeks and weird and it's like I'm in Connecticut and it all sudden started snowinghailing today. So that was weird. Did it really? I don't knowwhere, because I mean really, that's a crazy of the people in lathat are just like at the beach like nothing's going on, playing massive gamesof pick up basketball and stuff. Those videos are while yeah, I'm kindof getting confused by all that stuff, but it's kind of like are younot? Are You doing it purposely or you like just I don't know,it's weird. So Weird. Great. Yeah, I mean the videos thatI saw, all the quality of basketball was not great. There was alot of easy there was a lot of easy shots that were missed down inthe paint. So maybe the real hooper stay to yeah, that's the firsttime the be squads able to take over the court. Yes, true opportunityin there, like this is our moment. Yeah, I mean that the othercrazy thing was, I think it was last week when UFC danaway wasjust like now we're still going on and then like yeah, we're waking upthe next morning and then they're like everything's canceled, but he was like sosure that everything was going to go on. I mean it could have. MeIt would have been obviously awesome for the UFC because they would have beenthe only sport playing. Or yeah, I mean Ross and I were talkingabout the the best social, social distancing thing to do right now is probablyto play golf. So if you're a god for at all, like thisis a perfect time. You're spending time at home, you're like at anytime, four hundred yards away away from the next person. So think God'sreally the only sport it's like still be able to play, for sure.So're going into how did you guys have? Did you two meet? Yeah,so, Ross and I both went to Texas a andm but we weren'treally friends there, but my wife and his wife were best friends, thoughwe were kind of forced to hang out and thankfully we ended up liking eachother. But yeah, so we sort...

...of were thrust into it and thenonce we both were out of college and kind of into our careers, westarted to hang out more and yeah, just became a good friendship. Yeah, I mean that's exactly how I put it. You know, we justhappen to have wives that are best friends and we're starting to hanging the GISof a man with. One day we're just like let's let's dive into thispodcast thing and see what we can do. And you know, over a yearlater we're still cruising along. Yeah then, what? Yeah, whatmade you guys want to do the podcast? Yeah, no reason in particular.I mean we always had a pretty good banter back and forth about sportsand other stuff whenever we would hang out, and I love podcast I've listened tohim for a long time, and so we kind of do. Weregoing over some of the ones that I love and it just organically came upthat maybe we could do it on our own. And I think Ross andare both the type of people that once we put our head onto something,then we're going to really see it through. So we just made the necessary step. Since sort of just been learning as we go and we've gotten alot better. I remember the first couple times we did it, the ideaof feeling like thirty, forty five minutes seemed impossible, and now it justseemed second nature to us. We've learned as we gone and I will sayit, I am not tech savvy. At all. This would never existit wasn't for Cooper and what he does behind the scenes. Man, it'sit's all you. Here is my voice. Everything else is cooper, and withouthim the big swing wouldn't be where it is. So, man,it's a it's a big project. It's not easy to do a podcast,as you know, and like, for instance, we're doing this on zoom. We didn't even know this existed. Yet it seems perfect for a podcastand somehow we didn't even know about it. So, you know, there's somany things out there that we still need to learn and get better at, but you know, just kind of learned on the flood. It's prettycrazy. I mean I just use this actually for like work meeting and stuff, and then I was like Yo, let me try. I was like, let me figure out how to record on this, and I did theother day. Then I was just like we try to interview with you guys, video interview, and here we are. Yeah, and I'd you come upwith the bit the name the big swing podcast. Yeah, that wasthat was a lot of trial and error with the first one we wanted wasthe scoop right, because I'm stripped. He's coop the scoop just sounded perfect, and you know that that was taken. I think there's maybe ten podcasts withbasically that in its name, plus the domain name. All that wastaken, which we should have known, but we were all fired of aboutthe scoop. And then it was just basically forty eight hours of texting backand forth different names. And you know I'm a baseball player, but wedidn't want it to be just baseball only and we know we wanted to keepit broad and, you know, not pigeonhole ourselves to baseball, even thoughthe big swing still has kind of a baseball mantra around it, which isgood because obviously we do talk a lot about a bit about baseball. Butyou know, I think I don't know who necessarily come up with a bigswing. It was one of the five hundred thousand names we were sending eachother over the course of two days and that one was like it's perfect,let's roll with it. Yeah, people always ask me like which pointy allcame up with a big swing, and I never have an answer for itbecause we literally probably text each other like five hundred times in two days.So it could have been any one of the US. It could have beena combination of like five different names, I don't know, but we landedon it. We were kind of like, man, that's actually pretty good.We probably should have thought that sooner. Definitely. Yeah, I like howyou guys call your listeners the swingers to yeah, yeah, I'll takecredit for that. I don't know if the wives love that, but Ilove that one. Yeah, it is good. Yeah, it could bea miscommunicated on some people if they don't know the podcast. Yeah, forsure. Yeah, I remember. Yeah, that's a that's that's a reason why, too, I didn't name I like my PG sports podcast. Ididn't even name it that because I didn't want people to associate I only didsports, because I have a like entrepreneurs and like actors accrets. That's whereI've been like pretty much interviewing anybody now.

So it's like interesting to see justhear other people stories, and just athletes pretty much. One of thebiggest reasons we did this was, you know, it's just fun to takean hour or two a week to just kind of disappear down a conversation,put your phones away and dive into someone else's life. And obviously my networkis mostly baseball players, so that's the easiest guests for me to attain.But some of the most fun podcast we've had for ourselves personally have been othersports or not even in the sports world. I mean we've had actors, likeyou said, on we had CJ McCallum, Mike Evans, you know. So to talk about something other than baseball, especially for me when Ijust live baseball, to them for seven has been some of the funnest thingsabout this podcast and just been a good outlet for me to kind of,you know, basically escape baseball for a while and talk about other things.Well, I think the interesting part two is we've seen so many of you, even baseball players, are athletes in general, that we've interviewed. Itseems like they seem to get more fired up when we talk about stuff,whether it just be like a weird rabbit hole question or talking about their foundationor anything like that. So we've seen that people seem to get really firedup when they're talking about the thing we're not interviewing them about. Yeah,I don't know how you guys feel after a podcast, but usually, probablylike ninety nine percent of time, I feel like more motivated after like talkingto somebody else about just their story. Pretty much. Yeah, I oftentimesfeel very, very worthless because I don't have a lot Gong on compared toa lot of these guys. Oh, I don't know, I guess Inever felt like I felt worthless now, but I hear you. I meanit is cool, I mean especially, I think, the charitable side ofit, like we were talking about. So many of these guys that we'veinterviewed have a unique opportunity to touch people's lives and ways that, you know, not necessarily the normal person would, and for them to kind of takethat opportunity to run with it has been really cool to hear about. Yeah, definitely, and we're all going to your baseball Oker. I was listto a podcast actually, and you said like you didn't think you're going tomake a maybe releaks. So why didn't you think that? Well, Imean I didn't pitch till I was eighteen, so I was near the whole pitchingthing and and had to walk on in college and, you know,enjoyed college baseball and was good at it while I was there, but reallykind of focused on getting a degree and what life was going to be likeafter college. I never, you know, really thought that Major League Baseball wasin my future, and then you kind of just get bigger and strongeras you develop. You know, I was kind of a late bloomer,so I developed a lot in my early s and all of a sudden youhave people, scouts, coaches, other players, telling you like hey,you have a chance to, you know, at least play at the next levelwhen they go in the minor leagues and that kind of thing. Andeven as you get into the minor leagues, you know, you just as aguy that didn't pitched all was eighteen, I was kind of in awe ofsome of these players just how developed they were, how they would thinkwhen they're on the mountain. I'm just kind of up there chunk and learningon the go here and man, it was just kind of a big learningcurve, you know, where I never really thought that the major leagues wasin my future. Obviously you're working in striving for that. That's the dream, but I think, man, it just took me a long time torealize that, you know, I could actually make it. And then onceyou get there, like okay, how do I say this is awesome.It's crazy. Yeah, and I know you guys both went to Texas Aand M. What did you guys study there? Yeah, so I waskind of in a communications degree. I didn't really know what I'm wanted todo and now I'm not using that at all, but I guess the podcastis kind of a kind of ramp fat up a little bit now, finally, but the thing that actually pays my bills has nothing to do with mydegree. But in the same token, the connections that I gained at anhim had everything to do with my current job. So yeah, so Istudied fine ants, which is where the whole stock market thing kind of standI mean both my grandparents, my father,...

...and very involved in the market.So I just was exposed to the finance world at a young age andand really kind of really fell in love with it and studied in school,got my degree and then obviously pursued it as kind of a fallback for baseballand something that I'm passionate about. Look at every day times like this,it's stressful and it's not very fun, but actually really these are the Timessometimes that you pray for if you got some cash on hand, because you'regoing to get a chance to buy some blue chip stables of our economy.It's some really discount of prices. So it's it's fun. I enjoy it. Glad I studied it. It's a big passion of mine. Well,I got to ask, is there any any stocks you're looking at right now? Yeah, you know, I wish I could tell you, man,I really do. It's just too much of a liability. If I tellyou to go by, you know, stock Xyz and it tanks, youcan actually sue me and I'd get in a bunch of trouble since I'm actuallylicensed. And the biggest thing, and is just think about the absolute staplesof our economy, like companies that are going to survive crazy times like thisand are going to still be around fifty years from now, and they justgot cut almost in half and share price. I mean that's that's a pretty bigdiscount to buy some of the biggest companies in the world. So thosewould be the ones I would look at. Yeah, and, like you thinkit's valuable now that you have a degree, and I know some likemajor leaguers, are just baseball players in general, leave earlier, just gostraight to a professional baseball. Right. I mean I think it's extremely valuablein general and something to be really proud of and something that you work hardfor and you know, I should be proud of that achievement. There's nota lot of professional or sorry, not a lot of major league baseball playersthat had degree. So I'm in a small little group there, which ispretty cool. And you know the idea that only one percent of guys inthe minor leagues make it to the big league's so to have a degree tofall back on and then to be able to kind of network yourself while you'replaying baseball in the minor leagues and moving your way up and have something tofall back on, like I said, it's I think it's a big dealand if you have a chance to get your degree, you know, Ithere's countless guys that I talked to there like, Oh yeah, I'm sixhours away. It's like six hours away. I go finish your degree, man, like this, this life isn't guaranteed. Go, go, getyour degree. It's a huge deal and something to be really, really proudof. So I always try and urge people to finish their degree that theycan well and just the other part of it's just like it was the bestfour years of my life and yeah, I'll just say that right now.So I would obviously I don't have a baseball career that I'm falling back lateron degree, but just the idea that I would have given up for thebest four years of my life would be tough to give up for me.Yeah, yeah, I definitely agree with you. I remember like people sayingthat before college and I was just like that, I don't know if it'swell, now I agree that it probably was. Where'd you go to school? I went to the Shigahard University and Fairfield knat small dy one. Cool. Yeah, if you guys ever played a probably smoking there something. Ithink we might have played you guys. Yeah, yeah, because I meanthey go down shout every at the start up. Yeah, I think wemight have early in my career, like my freshman sophomore year. It's reallyrings a bell. I'm not positive, though. Oh good. Yeah,what's your guys process like for the PODCAST, like getting it, getting up,getting the guests and then like what do you have the research stuff likethat? Yes, so, obviously, with Ross's connections, a lot ofthe guests are gotten through him and then, you know, he knows a lotof these people, so he sort of is mainly responsible for developing alot of the questions involved with like the personal side of things, and thenme, as a fan, I just try to find stuff that I thinkwould be interesting for people to hear and I have a lot of questions thatI would love date to hear four people and now having the opportunity to askthose questions. It's been really cool. But it really the aising part,I think, for us so far is it the total team effort that we'vehad. Like a lot of the technical stuff is fall on me and then, of course, with Ross's network, a lot of the guests have fallenon him, so we've really kind of...

...share the load on a lot ofit. Yeah, totally agree. I think it's a fifty split. Asfar as process, it's you know, really I think some of our bestpodcasts have been the ones where we don't have a superstructured kind of you know, outline and to what we want to ask. I think the ability thatwe've learned is to kind of go down some of these rabbit holes that yougo down. You know, it's it's if a guy is passionate about somethingthat he's talking about, the last thing you want to do is be like, okay, let's get back on track and talk about this, you know. So it's been a learning curve for us, but I think we've gottena lot better as we've gone, like Cooper talked about earlier. First,you know that Mike Evans interview, I think, was like fifteen twenty minutes. Like we battled to get fifteen minutes out of Mike Evans versus. Nowwe can't hardly get anyone to shut up or ourselves to shut up before weget to an hour. You know. So it's gotten a lot more fun, a lot more fluid for us. But as far as process, it'sit's kind of just relying on how much better we've gotten in the last yearand just rely on our ability to keep a conversation flowing rather than forcing anything, and I think to just with Ross and I, you know, havingmore episodes under our belt. We trust each other in in doing the podcast. That like I know if I can go down rabbit hole and he's goingto get me back on track or vices. So that's helps a lot. Youknow, knowing that you know we have our stuff together and we canwe can figure it out if we kind of get off track. Yeah,I mean I remember, I was I remember my first episode I ever did. I didn't really write questions and I started writing questions. Now I'm back. I'm not. I don't I don't even write questions anymore. I dothe reason, but then I just don't want to do questions just exactly whatyou were just talking about, like when they're just talking about something random andyou don't want them. You don't want to give them all track. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's always. It's always the follow up question tothe question you had prepared here. That always turns out better. Yep, YEP, exactly. The research side is good, because you want tobe able to introduce you the person is right, you know, you wantto be able to say, like, you know, this is cooper,the big swing podcasts. He was draft in the first round, like whateverit is, like you want to give some back and yeah, and youknow, and stuff like that, and then just like have some bullet pointsthat, yeah, you, you know, are struggling with putting out a sentenceor whatever. They can look at and me like, Oh, Isee that. You almost threw a no hitter in two thousand and sixteen.What was that like? You know? As opposed to knowing that one hundredpercent, you have to ask that question at some point in the interview.Yeah, and then what about? Have you guys had interviews were you're like, Oh, this is only twenty minutes, but there was so much information?And then sometimes you might have like a long one. You're like thatone like drag down. Yeah, for sure, and there's a lot ofthem were like you get through forty five minutes and I look at my notesI'm like there was four things that I think would have been super interesting thatI just totally forgot to ask, and you just kind to get caught upin the conversation. And that doesn't mean it necessarily the stuff you recorded wasn'tgood, but there's there's so many times where I have interesting stuff that I'vewritten down that I'd never even get a chance to ask. And some peoplejust talk more than there's no week. Try and keep it in the thirtyto forty minute range. I think only the Joe Rogans of the world cango over an hour and keep people entertained. You know, it's just I don'tthink we're Joe Rogan and some people. You know, you ask them asimple question and they go down like a little four minute tangent of whatthey childhood was like and like all this stuff, and you know you gotto kind of like bring them back down to Earth here a little bit.And then, like, I mean, you can hear it in us.Every now and then I go on a ten minute ran about something. Youknow, it's just everyone's a little bit different. Everyone's passionate about different thingsand some subjects get people fired up more than others and all of a suddenyou've eaten up half your clock before you've gotten anywhere close to what you wantto say. The funny thing that I was do, like I always goback and do the research again like after and then I'm like pain, likeI wish I would, I wish I asked that question, or like Isee something that just posted recently on social media, like I wish I justasked them about what they just do. Yeah, I'm always so critical.I know of me personally because I edit...

...the podcast for us, so Ihave to listen back to it like in two or three times while I'm editing, and then make sure it's all working. So like by it's time it's actuallywhere the listeners listening it? To it. I've listened to it threeor four times already, so it it. Yeah, I hate hearing my voice, for sure. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's yeah, I feelyou on that too. At first, at first I didn't, like nowI'm going to hate looking at myself too. Yeah, but yeah,first, I first I didn't listen to it either, and then I startedto listen to it like after I released it, just to see, justto like get the feel, like what the audience was like. I wasmaybe I was thinking about that, like Coope, if we start using thisa lot of times, I'm just like sitting in my underwear in a roadcity recording a podcast, you know. Now, so we're and now we'regoing to do a video. I mean, I didn't know this one's gonna bevideo. I just usually my hair at least looks a little bit lessfluffy than this, you know, at least a little little bit done,and I a shade. I looked like I have a mustache and this pictureup here on the top left. Yet it's it's not great. You gotto work on that. If we'RE GOING TO START DOING VIDEO? Oh,yeah, there's there's so many times H'm in hotel rooms like halfway eating asandwich while you're going on a little rant or something. Yeah, we needto clean that up. We use this. Yeah, actually been going since it'sthe coronavirus and everyone's home. I've been going live like every day andcan get like a guess them, and now I'm like, Oh, no, like I have to. Usually I don't have my hammer. Last timeI'm just like recording the pockets. I'm like all right, now I gotto kind of get like ready, get changed. Yeah, go on liveand I'm like all right, so that but's kind of good because now I'mbetting kind of used to being on camera more. Yeah, I think meand Ross got in the podcast the game, so we didn't have to see strenow. Yeah, now there's think that we have. We have facesfor the podcast came out. Yeah, that's funny too, because my theorywas like why? I was like why are podcast getting big? So I'mlike thinking show people could probably do stuff and listen instead of like watch stuff, because you can't really do stuff while you're watching TV show. Yeah,for sure. So, yeah, it's crazy. I mean where do youguys think like podcast is going? Yeah, man, I don't know where elseit can go, right. I mean it seems like it's sort ofa medium that that, as far as how do you consume, it won'tchange. But I think the innovation in like subject matter will just continue togrow. I mean you literally can make a podcast about anything and pretty muchat this point before doing that, and every celebrity almost has an podcast now. So I just think it's can get it continue to grow. It's suchan easy place to listen. It's if you have a guest on, Ithink it takes a lot of the pressure off them, not being in frontof a camera, not having the pressure of having to be perfect. Soyeah, I think it's only going to continue to grow. Yeah, Iwould agree. I think it's the only I mean, as a guy thatgets interviewed almost daily, podcast is where I show my real personality, andnot even on my own podcast, when I go on other people's podcasts,I naturally relax a little bit for whatever reason. I know that's maybe nota good thing because that's when you can say something stupid. I mean,you hear it's examples of that all the time. It but I just thinkpodcast seen as a great media outlet for athletes, I don't know, celebritiesin general, to show the real personality that you don't ever show to thebeat writer that just interviewed you after a game or whatever. You know,those stories are much more cut and dry as opposed to a podcast, whichis an hour of just kind of like laid back, cutting loose and showingoff, you know what you're really passionate about in your personality. Yeah,that's yeah, that's exactly why I like listen to him, just because,like, you hear the transparency and then you could like, I feel likeyou get to know the person like way more than like a and there inmost of them are kind of like unfiltered, I guess you'd say. So likepeople are talking regular, like normal, like how they would talk to soyeah, yeah, and going into your career again, Ross like whatwas your first like Major League game?...

Like, good question. You know, it's it ended up going well, at least box score wise. Weactually lost the game, but you know, when I look back at the debut, what I'll remember is just having like my friends and my family therein San Francisco and and then obviously you go seven and a third no hitand get pulled at a hundred pitches with a no hitter going, and Inever had an opportunity like that to throw in ever again. So and Idon't know if I ever will get another one. So it stinks to notknow if I could have finished it. You know, in a perfect world, I've said this a million times, we're winning that game ten and nothingand Dave Roberts comes out there and says like look, but you got twelvemore pitches, throw them down the middle and let's see if they hit itto someone, you know, kind of thing, as opposed to as aone nothing game, and it's you know, we're in San Francisco, are heatedrival and you know, obviously we got studs in the back end ofthe bullpen to try and come in and close that game out. So itjust didn't work out that way. But man, looking back, how specialwas is it to have a debut like that in front of so many ofmy friends in my family, like I mentioned, and it just really cool, something I'll remember forever and obviously cherish, and just a cool way to startyour career. Yeah, I remember I actually watching it and I wasbefore we were really that close and we definitely knew each other and I wouldconsider US friends. But I remember tuning in just saying like yeah, I'll, you know, I'll watch a couple innings just in case it comes out. We I could say I watched it and and then you know, youknow, no hits. First sitting, seconding, thirty, he just keepsgoing by and I'm like, I really about to watch nine innings here andand so I just got an anything to baseball. You ever watched? Yeah, that's yeah, and about ten years so. So yeah, no,I just remember like feeling like towards the six or seventh inning, it feltlike it was the world series. In my head like it I was justso hype walk and it was. It was a lot of fun. Yeah, what other sports you guys into? I'll speak for Cooper and I'll I'lltell you he's into just about anything. is most recent one, now thatall is downtime, he's into marble racing. Got A snapchat from his wife theother day of him just going ham with one of his buddies about marbleracing. But now we're at the fantasy basketball and football players big time intoboth. You know, obviously the NBA, the NFL, Cooper at would say, is now developing a love for baseball, but it's been slow.I think it's more of a love for dodgers, since he knows them andis actually met a bunch of them. I think that helps. And otherthan that, man, you know, I thought this would be a goodtest to see what else I'm into, and it turns out I'm pretty shallow. I'm just into the the big three. I don't think I can get intobowling and marble racing and UFC or wwe. I'm a stick to thebasics. Yeah, I mean, if you just give marvel racing a chance, it is the new way. It is a blast. Not I literallywatched marble racing for no less than about two hours. I watched the timetrials for each race and then the actual race. It is it's very darkover here at the SEARL's house right now, oh man. And but yeah,I'm the same with Ross. I love, you know, obviously lovedNFL. I'm huge NBA Guy and then I was massive baseball fan growing upand kind of in the middle part of my life. I just lost thetouch for it and doing the podcast I've really found a new love for itand and have enjoyed the pitching side of it a lot. Getting to talkto Ross and so many pitchers. That side of it's been really interesting forme to follow. So yeah, definitely getting back into baseball. Yeah,it's actually funny you say that too, because it's like my favorite sport,I would say, is baseball, but like the past few years I kindof, like I said, I felt out of love with it and Iactually just did a couple of minor league and MLB players podcast and then Iwas just like dam like, yeah, now I now remember why I likedit and stuff like that. So pretty yeah, I'll speak up for baseballjust for a second. It's just it's...

...it's it's an acquired taste, Iguess, is a way you got to put it. You know, it'sit's slow, not a lot of action, but if you grew up watching itand appreciate it for what it is, it's such a sophisticated sport and ifyou kind of understand into what goes into you know, second and thirdone out Mike Trout up the idea of like, okay, what's the strategyhere? Kind of thing. You know, it's if you can kind of sitand understand baseball for what it is. It's unbelievable to watch and unbelievable thinkabout what really goes into grinding through a hundred sixty two games. AndI understand if you sit and watch a hundred sixty two games nine innings,night in and night they I think you might be a little bit crazy.But some people do it, man, and they love baseball and it's asport in the class all of its own. If you ask me, yeah,back back in the day I can him like every single starter on everyteam. Yeah, like, definitely, we can do that. Right now, I don't think I can do that. I can't do that. I thinkthe the part Ross you were saying, like it is such a sophisticated gameand and if you are locked into a team, I think it's themost fun sports of fall. Like if you just are like hey, I'ma massive dodgers fan, I'm going to watch this four nights out of theweek. It is the best sport to follow. But if you're just kindof a broad sports fan it, you know, the the problem baseball hasis no one really cares about players outside of their team. Like where's?I don't know. NFL is so big with fantasy football, and then likeyou really care what Lebron's doing, whether you're Lebron Fan or not. SoI think as is a broad thing. Baseball is kind of hard to follow, but if you have one team, it's the best. Yeah, yeah, I mean I think. Yeah, and like baseball, I feel likeit's like you, most of people like the local team. Yeah, andnot and not like football is like everybody likes anybody from in your yeah,agreed. Yeah, Ross, what advice would you give to like, ayoung athlete trying to make like or trying to be like a deal one scholarship, really trying to make a pro league? Yeah, I could ask this allthe time team and I wish I had a head, a crystal ballI can share with every kid of what they should do, you know,and and really I just kind of leaning on what I did, which isplay everything you know. Don't don't pigeonhole yourself to one sport because your parentssaid you need to or because you think you need to or whatever. Giveeverything a shot and find what you're passionate about. And don't put too muchpressure on yourself. I mean it's so easy now to like get on instagramand, I don't know, feel the pressure to like be something that you'renot or to live up to some you know, I don't know, andcrazy expectation for yourself. And and I just think go and have fun.I mean there's sports, their games. They're meant to be played with yourfriends outside having fun, and I think the second that you take it tooserious is the second you'll get burnt out on it. Obviously take it seriouslyin that you want to work hard and get better at it. But andif you're a thirteen year old kid and you say, and I'm going tofocus on baseball only for the rest of my life, I don't know,I just I feel like you're taking opportunities away. And I mean, likeI said, I'd even pitched all his eighteen man. I didn't necessarily lovebaseball. I love football and basketball and baseball is kind of a third sport, and then I fell in love with pitching and you know, if Iwould have never taken that opportunity and just try to focus on baseball, Imean focus on basketball, I would never be where I am today. Sothat's kind of what I say. Work Hard, find some you're passionate about, but try everything under the sun and I don't know. That's that's kindof what I said. When a dad asked me, is like how's mykid going to make the Big Leagus? I'm like, I don't know.I wish I knew. Don't spend five hundred bucks a week on lessons.I don't know what that necessarily helps. Just put a batness Handtelle, gooutside and hit rocks. You know something fun? Now I definitely feel youand I think I think kid should definitely put multiple sports growing up. Areyou got you guys ready for some fun...

...questions? Are gonna go from averagesavage. Yeah, let's do it all. What's your guys his favorite Song Rightnow? Who? Good question. I like the it's man, Iwas just listening to it. I like the blinded by the lights by theweekend. That song gets me kind of fired up. Also like diplow andsomeone else made a country song, man. I can't think of it. anyways, diplow country song checked out. I would say it's not necessarily newsong, but I would say billy Eilishsa Ocean eyes. Yeah, Ge Jams, she's good. Man. If she was like whispers at you and you'relike come into that. Yeah, what about Rawch? What we're about?Who's been your who was her favorite strike out against? Oh Man, goodquestion. I always hate answering questions like these because I feel like they're goingto see it and then they're just gonna be like that mother. I'm nevergoing to let him strike me out every again. Favorite one was I camein out of the bullpen one of the first times I ever came in abullpen in Colorado. There were multiple guys on Bas I remember the exact situation, but two outs and I struck out Nolan Aronado and I remember. Iremember thinking that was pretty cool. Will as I've walked off the mountain thatone, just because I was not used to come out of the bullpen atall. Also, don't necessarily strike a ton of guys out, especially noone Aroonato in Colorado, and I was able to pull that one off.That was a big one, I think that was. That was like earlytwo thousand and seventeen. And what do you guys like to do in yourfree time? Besides, it's marble racing. Let me see, I don't havea lot of interest. But beyond marble racing. Now I would sayone of my favorite things to do is I'd love to go to breweries.Like I love trying new beer and and going to breweries. I'm pretty muchat home body for the most part, but if I do get out anddo something, that's probably what it is. Yeah, I stay so busy betweenbaseball, the PODCAST, the stock market stuff that I do, thatmy free time is usually a engulfed by my wife and whatever she wants todo, and usually it's something fun. It's never anything lame. So whatevershe comes up with for us is usually awesome. She's really good at likediving into new cities. You know, let's say Chicago, New York,Miami, wherever we are, find a new place to eat, something coolspecific to that city that we can go try that. We always try somethingnew every time we go somewhere different. Yeah, leads up to my nextone. What's your what's your favorite travel spot? I really like Chicago.I like really field, which is just obviously fun for the historic nature ofthe stadium and they've redone the locker room in the weight room and all thatstuff would used to just be atrocious is now actually very nice and worth checkingout. As a visiting player. When he used to be spent as alittle time there as possible. And then the city of Chicago, I loveyou know. We stay there right off of Michigan Avenue, which is allthose shops, restaurants, bars and stuff in there. That's really nice,really clean. You can walk around, no one ever knows who I amor anything like that. So we always like go on to Chicago. Thefood there's great and you know, it's just a cool baseball town and cityin general. I'd probably say my favorite place that I've traveled to state sidewould be San Francisco. It just kind of feels like you're not in America. It feels like you may be in a different country or something. Obviously, like the physical landscape of it is pretty crazy, but you just youjust can go to Chinatown get amazing Chinese food, there's a there's a Talianfood, there's obviously Napa valley has incredible food and wine. So I wouldI would say San Francisco's my favorite city I've traveled to. I Love Sambrand true really cool city. Well, coming from the dodger. I knowit's a fun place to go play baseball. Man, it really is. Who'syou guys favorite athlete of all time? Who? Good question. I usuallysay Lebron. I mean, growing up a cowboys fan, you know, you could say like an Emmett Smith...

...or Troy Acheman, or even likea love Peyton Manning, and I loved Peyton manning man like right now it'sLebron. I just to think of the brand that he's built into basically takeon the city of La and Kobe's legacy and go be a Laker when hecould have kind of gone anywhere else and just, you know, done histhing. He went and took on the biggest responsibility that you could ever takein the NBA and to basically stink in the first year, get hurt andnow, obviously we got a shortened season because of this virus, but tocome back and play like MDP caliber basketball and when everyone's talking about the clippersand all this stuff, I mean it's just really, really cool to seewhat he's done for the NBA's basically empowered the players. I mean they areat a level that they've never been as far as how powerful their players areand it's a major difference between them and us and really other sports in general. If you ask me so, I would say Lebron. Have you haveto meet him? No, I wish man. Yeah, he's The podcastMecca that sets if we could have any guests, me and cooper both sayit's Lebron. Yeah, definitely Lebron. Lebron would be my favorite athlete too. I kind of when he was in high school. I remember watching himplay one time his junior season and I'm a returning to my friend and justbeing like that's my guy, like that's going to be my guy for therest of his career. And to have that level of expectations on you beon sports illustrated, I think is a sixteen year old, and then toactually pan out and then, in the middle of your career, face moreadversity, people doubting you, people doubting you, and then kind of goto this next phase of his career, go back to Cleveland win again.It's just incredible to see someone with that much expectation actually pan out and begreat, and is it greater than we ever could have thought he was.And then, like Ross, had this next chapter in La like it's noeasy task to take over a situation like that and to wield his power,get Anthony Davis and start this new dynasty. Potentially is incredible and I'm just sadthat potentially this season's been cut short and we didn't get to see whathe could have done. Yeah, is that a Lebron Jersey behind it?Yeah, it is there. Yeah, to lebroners. I Love Them.Yeah, and last one. Who would you guys want to do a Jerseyexchange with? Oh Man, I wish that was a thing in baseball.Yeah, that's how you say. I want to I want to see youhaven more in baseball. Maybe you could start off. Yeah, yeah,I'll be that guy. Yeah, I'll be that trailblazer. Well, whatit does is it comes out of your paycheck. That's part of you know, like we pay for those if we give them away, which really it'snot a ton of money, but if you're a start giving away every day, probably because hundred sixty two, I mean I think it's different. Allright, times a hundred sixty two games. Yeah, I mean, in historyI would want to trade with either Griffy or Nolan Ryan. In currentbaseball, I would probably choose trout. I mean you got to choose withtroll. He's the Lebron James of Baseball and no one even knows who heis. It's absolutely why out. I think it's a good example of howother sports are able to brand themselves versus baseball players. Were really struggle withthat, that you could have a superior athlete in the basically to the wholerest of the League and Mike Trout, and you know, is in ahousehold name. Really Sorry, I'm going on a rant, but now Iwould say trout. Yeah, I love the the picture of those two guysthat did the Jersey swap in Vegas, like after they were partying all night. They like swap their Hawaiian tee's. That so much, but I thinkthat I think that would pick Tom Brady, like I feel like he's just likebutton others. I. Yeah, no, I thatts, but likehe's just one of those guys I feel like that every player has respect for. Like there's not one guy that you ever heard come out and say like, Matt Tom Brady's not all that, or one teammate that says like,yeah, it''s he's not a great teammate. Like he is the goat in theeyes of fans and all the players.

So I think if I were anathlete to do a Jersey swap with him would just be a massive moment. I look all those rumors that came out that were like always coming inand demanding control of the offense and number twelve and all this stuff, andthen he like came out and I was like, or so I think it'scoach maybe came out and said, like, he didn't ask for number twelve,we didn't ask for anything about the offense. All he asked was forevery teammate's phone number. Now I was like, yeah, he's get classas a great away his grab it. Yeah, all right, I got. I got one bonus question, because me and my friends been talking tooabout it. If he wins the super bowl year one at Tampa, becausethe super bowls in Tampa this year or next year, whatever you want tosay, you think he's like the go of goats. Yeah, he's andYe kind is the greatest American athlete of all time. Yeah, if youdo that, I mean it's like him and Jordan, like there's no oneelse to live button to the Super Bowl in the first year that. Yeah, insane, and you got that will curse of it. Where the superbowls played and all that stuff. And if he does that, he's gota punt on that second year of the deal. And just get your sonset, man. Yeah, you've done it. You'll be marrying sell andlive your life. Yeah, Oh man, what a life for that guy.Good for him. Well, I appreciate you guys coming on and Icould you let the listeners know where they can follow you at and personals inyour podcast. Yeah, go to at big swing on twitter and instagram andwe're on Itunes, spotify and anywhere else you can listen. It's called thebig swing Ross and I've been doing it for a couple of years now.We have athletes on there, other people from other walks of life, baseball, football, basketball, pretty much everything. So yeah, go check us outon there and my twitter instagram is just at Cooper searles. Yeah,I guess I'm just at Ross strippling. Might be Ross underscore stripling, Ican never remember, but yeah, check us out big swing podcast and we'llsee you guys there.

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