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Ross Stripling and Cooper Surles | Average To Savage EP99

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This is the ninety-ninth episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring Los Angeles Dodgers pitcher Ross Stripling and Cooper Surles of The Big Swing Podcast. This was our first recorded Zoom video interview and the first time interviewing two people. Paul Guarino talked with Ross Stripling and Cooper Surles discussing how they met each other, why they created The Big Swing Podcast, and their love for sports. Follow The Big Swing Podcast https://www.instagram.com/bigswingpodcast Follow Ross Stripling https://www.instagram.com/ross_stripling Follow Cooper Surles https://www.instagram.com/coopersurles This podcast interview with Ross Stripling and Cooper Surles was originally recorded March 23, 2020

This is the average this aveage podcastwith Paul Garino everyone and anyone athletes, soeptsand much more so F. everybody welcome back to anotherepisode, the average savage podcast our special guest today is row stripplingand Cooper sirls Ross Cooper, how's it going it's going on man Ay doing howyou doing do wel appreciate you guys coming on today, yeah happy to be hereand yeah. I know it's a little weird time right now with corona so Ross like.Where were you your in spring training and now now? Where are you know, so wedecided to go ahead and come on home to Texas just once they theeight weeks. Without you know,groups of fifty or more that, basically, you know killed the ability to haveyour team together in a full workout and basically also meant that weweren't going to have baseball until the middle of May. So we went ahead anddecided just to come on home to Texas and ride this thing out where we feelthe most comfortable and close to family. So that's how we ended up here, yeah for sure H, t about what about you.Pooper yeah, I mean we're still kind of going to work thesame way honestly at compapanies that I work at and we're just kind of playing it out andplayned it by ear. Obviously, taking precautions not going to see people andnot having people in our office. But you know it's that balance, but betweenlike life, goes on and obviously protecting the situation so yeah we'rekind of sitting in the middle here, but as far as being at Homewe're takingprecautions when we can and staying inside as much as we can yeah Osoyou're working for mome yeah, a little bit of both a lot of people are still in the office,my jobis little bit more flexible, so I can kind of be back and forth but yeah.Certainly, a lot of people are still going to the office every day and- and you know, business has to keepgoing on people how to pay their bills, and so there's there's that fine linefor sure yeah definitely yeah. It was kind of weird for me before openapartment building and this fire. When I went off, I only happene one time.I've been here for like three years and like so everybody had to go outsidelike it was a big fire alarm and I was just like wow thi's, like the firsttime I seen like a group of like more than two people in the AGL week, Ha'sBeneahand, weird, and it's like I'm in Connecticut and it all of a suddenstarted snowing hailing today. So I was weird o: Did it really Eah O knowwher,because I mean reay- is a crazy of the people in la that are just like at thebeach like nothing's, going on playing massive games of pick up baskon stuff.Those videos are wild yeah, I'm kind of getting confused by all that stuff. Bu,it's kind of like are. Are you not? Are You doing it purposely or you like? Just I don't know it's weird, it's aweird God yeah I mean the videos that I saw. All the quality of basketball wasnot great. There was a lot O as there was a lot of easy shots that weremissed down in the paint. So maybe the real hooper stated home yeah, that'sthe first time the be squads able to take over the court yethere's someopportunity in there like this is our moment. Yeah I mean the other crazything was thing was last week when UFC Dana Wi was just like no we're stillgoing on and then like yeah we're waking up the next morning and thenthey're like everything scanceled, but he was like so sure that everything wasgoing to go on I mean it could have mean it would have been obviouslyawesome for the UFC, because then they would have been the only sport playingOryeah. I mean Ross, and I were talking about the the best social SOCAF.Distancing thing to do right now is probably to play golf. So if you're, agod for at all like this, is a perfect time, you're spending in time at home,you're like at any time four hundred yards away pay from the next person, soI think Goth's, really the only sport, that's like still be able to play eh for sure. So going into how d? HowDod you guys? How did you to meet yeah, so ros and I both went to Texas ANDM, butwe weren't really friends there, but my wife and his wife fore best friends, sowe were kind of forced to hang out and...

...thankfully we ended up liking, eachother but yeah, so we sort of were thrust into itand then once we both were out of college and kind of into our careers.We started to hang out more and yeah just became a good friendship. Yeah I mean that's exactly how I put Iyou know. We just happen to have have wives that are best friends and we'restarting to hang the jesis of a man, but one day we'rejust like. Let's, let's dive into this podcast thing and see what we can do-and you know over a year later, we're still cruising along yeah, then w ayeah. What made you guys want to do the podcast yeah, no reason in particular, I meanwe always had a pretty good, bancer back and forth about sports and otherstuff. Whenever we would hang out- and I love podcast- I've listened to himfor a long time, and so we kind of just were going over some of the ones that Ilove and it just organically came up that maybe we could do it on our ownand I think Ross, and I are both the typeof people that once we put our head on to something, then we're going toreally see it through. So we just made the necessary step andsort of just been learning as we go and we've gotten a lot better. I rememberthe first couple times: we did it the idea of filling like thirty forty fiveminutes, teemed impossible, and now it just seems second nature to us. We'velearned as we gone, and I will say at I am not text Atat. All this would never exist, it wasn't for Cooper and what hedoes behind the scenes. Man, it's all you hear, is my voice. Everything elseis cooper and without him the big swing wouldn't bewhere it is so man, it's it's a big project. It's not easy to do a podcast,as you know, and like, for instance, we're doing this on zoom. We didn'teven know this existed, yet it seems perfect for a podcast and somehow wedidn't even know about it. So you know there's so many things out there thatwe still need to learn and get better at, but you know just kind of learn onthe flot yeah, it's pretty crazy. I mean I just use this actually for likework meeting and stuff nd, then I was like. Let me try it and I was like. Letme figure out how to record on this, and I did the other day an. I was justlike. We try to interview with you guys, video underview, and here we are yeahand h. w how'd you co up with the bit the name. The big swing, podcast yeah, that was, that was a lot of trial.An arror with the first one we wanted was thescoop right because I'm stripp he's cooped the scoop just sounded perfect, and you know that thatwas taken. I think there's maybe ten podcast with basically that in its nameplus the domain name, all that was taken which we should have known, butwewere all fired up about the scoop. And then it was just basically fortyeight hours of texting back and forth different names, and you know I'm abaseball player, but we didn't want it to be just baseball only and we know wewanted to keep it broad and you know not pigeon hole ourselves to baseball,even though the big swing still has kind of a baseball, Monta amound it,which is good, because obviously we do talk a lot about a bi about baseball.But you know, I think I don't know whonecessarily came up with a big swing. It was one of the five hundred thousandnames. We were sinding each other over the course of two days and that one waslike it's perfect. Let's roll with it. Yeah people always asked me like whichfontyall came up with a big swing and I never have any answer for it, becausewe literally probably text each other like five hundred times in two days, soit could have been any one of us. It could have been a combination of likefive different names. I don't know, but we landed on and we were kind of likeman, that's actually pretty good. We probably should have thought thatsooner yeah definitely yeah like how you guyscall your listeners to swingers. Do Yeah Yeah I'll, take credit for that. Idon't know if the wives like that, but I love that OOne yeah itis good yeahcould be a miscommuniation on some people if they don't know thet, foasyeah for sure yeah. I remember yeah, that's likethat's. That's a reason why to I didn't aime, my like my PG sports podcast. Ididn't eveen name it that because I didn't want people to Associate A. Ionly did sports because I have a like entrepreneurs and like actors, agraces, that's what I'vebeen like pretty much interviewing...

...anybody now. So it's like interestingto see just hear other people's stories and just athletes pretty much one ofthe biggest reasons we did. This was you know it's just fun to take an ourrdor to a week to just kind of disappear down a conversation, put your phonesover theway and dive into someone else's life, and obviously my networkis mostly baseball players. So that's the easiest guess for me to obtain, butsome o e of the most fun podcast we've had for ourselves personally have beenother sports or not. Even in the sports world I mean we've had actors like yousaid on. We had CJ mccallan, Mike Evans. You know so to talk about somethingother than baseball, especially for me when I just live baseball, thosn oseven has been some of the funnest things about this podcast and just beena good outlet. For me, to kind of you know, basically escape baseball for awhile and talk about other things. Well, I think the interesting part too iswe've seen so many of you even baseball players or athletes in Genera Mol,we've interviewed, it seems like they seem to get more fired up when we talkabout stuff, whether it just be like a weird rabbit, whole question or talkingabout their foundation or anything like at. So we've seen that people seem toget really fired up when they're talking about the thing we're notinterteviewing them to that yeah. I don't know how you guys feelafter a podcast but usually probably like ninety nine percent of the time. Ifeel like more motivated after like talking to somebody else about justtheir story. Pretty much yeah, I often times feel very, veryworthless because I don't have oon O' compared to a lot of these guys. Oh I don't know, I guess I never fel like I felt worthi now, but I hear you I mean it is cool.I mean especially, I think, the charitable side of it like we weretalking about so many of these guys that we've interviewed have a uniqueopportunity to touch people's lives and ways that you know n, necessarily thenormal person would and for them to kind of take that opportunity and runwith it as been really cool to hear about yeah, definitel and Rouf, goingto your baseball career, I was listend to a podcast actually, and you said,like you, didn't, think you w're going to make it maybe leaks. So why didn'tthink that? Well I mean I didn't pitch till I was eighteen, so I was newr thewhole pitching thing and and had to walk on in college, and you knowenjoyed college baseball and was good at it. While I was there but reallykind of focused on getting a degree and what life was going to be like aftercollege, I never. You know really thought that Major League Baseball wasin my future and then you kind of just get bigger and stronger as you develop.You know I was kind of a late bloomer, so I developed a lot in my early tiesand all of a sudden, you have people scouts, coaches, other players tellingyou like, Hey. You have a chance to. You know at least play at the nextlevel when the go in the minor leagues and that kind of thing, and even asyou're Gettinto, the minor leagues. You know you just as a guy that didn'tpitch tall as eighteen. I was kind of in of of some of these players just howdeveloped they were, how they would think when they're on the mount and I'mjust kind of out there chunking learning on the go here and man, it wasjust kind of a big learning curve. You know where I never really thought thatthe major leagues was in my future, obviously you're working and strivingfor that. That's the dream, but I think manut. It just took me a long time torealize that you know I could actually make it and the once you get thereyou're like okay. How do I say this is awesome. It's crazy, yeah, a D. I know you guysboth went Texas, a andhem. What did you guys study there yeah? So I was kind ifof in a communications degree. I didn't really know what I wanted to do, andnow I'm not using that at all. But I guess the popcast is kind of ramp fed up a little bit now. Finally,but the thing that actually pays, my billshas nothing to do with my degree, but in the same token, the connections thatI gained at nm had everything to do with my current job so yeah. So Istudied fine ants, which is where the whole stock market thing kind of stand.I mean both my grandparents, my father,...

...are very involved in the market, so Ijust was exposed to the finance world at a young age and and really kind ofreally fell in love with it and studied t in school got my degree and thenobviously pursuetd. It is kind of a fall back for baseball and somethingI'm passionate about look at every day. Times like this, it's stressful andit's not very fun, but actually really. These are the times, sometimes that youpray for. If you got some cash on him, because you're going to get a chance tobuy some blue chip, stables of our economy at some really discountedprices, so it it's fun. I enjoy it glad I studied it. It's a big passion ofmine. Well, I got a ash. Is there any any stocks? You're looking at right now,yeah, you know I wish I could tell you man. I really do it's just too much ofa liability. If I tell you to go by, you know, stock Xyz and it tanks. Youcan actually sue me and I'd get in a bunch of trouble since I'm actuallylicensed tin. The biggest thing an is is just think about the absolutestaples of our economy, like companies that are going to survive crazy timeslike this and a're, going to still be around fifty years from now, and theyjust got cut almost in half and share price. I mean that's, that's a prettybig discount to buy some of the biggest companies in the world, so those ul bethe ones I'll look at yoot to and, like you think, it's valuable now that youhave a degree- and I know some like major leaguers ar just baseball playersin general- leave earlier just go straight to professional baseball rightI mean, I think, it's extremely valuable in general and something to bereally proud of Hind, something that you work hard for, and you know Ishould be proud of that achievement. There's not a lot of professional orsorry, not a lot of major league baseball players that had degree. SoI'm in a small little group there, which is pretty cool- and you know theidea that only one percent of guys in the minor leagues make it to the BigLeagus so to have a degree to fall back on and then to be able to kind ofNetnet Work Yourself, while you're playing baseball in the minor leaguesand moving your way up and have something to fall back on. Like I saidit's, I think it's a big deal and if you have a chance to get your degree,you know there's countless guys that I talked to theyre like Oh yeah, I'm sixhours away. It's like six hours away. I go finish your degree. Man Like this.This life isn't guaranteed, go, go, get your degree, it's a huge deal andsomething to be really really proud of. So I always try and urge people tofinish their degree F. They can well and just the other part of it s justlike it was the best forty years of my life, yeah I'll just say that right now,so I would obviously I don't have a baseball career that I'm falling backlater on degree, but just the idea that I would have given up for the best fouryears of my life wicould be tough to give up for me, yeah yeah. I definitely agree with you. Iremember like people saying that before college- and I was just like- ah Idon't know but e now I agree that it probably was where'd you go to school. I went toSege Harg University and Farrfield kindgit small, Don o yeah. If you guysever played I grevat Yo, I think we might have played you guys,yeah yeah, because I mean they go down shout every at the start up yeah. Ithink we might have early in my career. Like my freshman sophomore year, it'sreally rings a bell, not a positive, though oh good yeah. What's your guysprocess like for the podcast like getting it getting up getting the guestand then like? What do you? The research stuff like that? Yes toobviously with Ross's connections, a lot of the guests a are gotten throughhim and then you know he knows a lot of these people,so he sort of is mainly responsible for developing a lot of the questions t atinvolved with like the personal side of things and then me as a fan. I just tryto find stuff that I think would be interesting for people to hear, and Ihave a lot of questions that I would love o hear for people and now havingthe opportunity to ask those questions. Its been really cool, but it really the azing part, I think for us so faras it. The total team effort that we've had like a lot of the technical stuffas falling on n me and then, of course, with Ros's network. A lot of the guestshave fallen on him, so...

...we really kind of share the load on alot of it. Yeah totally agree. I think it's a fifty fifty split as far asprocess. It's you know really. I think some of our best podcast have been theones where we don't have a superstructured kind of you knowoutline into what we want to ask. I think the abilitiity that we've learnedis to kind of go down. Some of these rabbit holes that you go down. You knowit's if a guy's passionate about something that he's talking about thelast thing you want to do is be like. Okay, let's get back on track and talkabout this, you know. So it's been a learning curve for us,but I think we've gotten a lot betters we'th gone like Cooper talked aboutearlier T. First, you know that Mike Evans interview, I think, was likefifteen twenty minutes like we battled to get fifteen minutes out of MikeEvans versus now. We can't hardly get anyone to shut up or ourselves to shutup before we get to an hour. You know, so it's gotten a lot more fun, a lotmore fluid for us, but as far as process t', it's kind of just relyingon how much better we've gotten in the last year and just rely on our abilityto keep a conversation flowing rather than forcing anything, and I think tojust with Ross- and I you know, having more episodes under our belt. We trusteach other in in doing the podcast. That, like I know I, I can go down arabbit, hole and he's going Na. Get me back on track or viafer. So H, t that's,helps a lot. You know, knowing that you know we have our stuff together and wecan. We can figure it out if we kind of get off track. Yeah I mean I remember I was. Iremember my first episode I ever did. I didn't really write, questions and N. Istarted writing questions now, I'm back I'm not! I Don' I don't ven to writequestions anymore. I do the real, but then I just don't want to do questionjust exactly what you were just talking about like when they're just talkingabout something random and you don't want them, you don't want to get themultre yeah for sure yeah. It's always it's always the followup question tothe question you had perprair that always turns out better Yeph, YEP AC.The research side is good because you want to be able to introduce to theperson is right. You know you want to be able to say. Like you know, this iscooper of the big swing podcast. He was draftein the first round, like whateverit is like. You want to angle O, give some pack yeah, and you know and stufflike that, and then just like have some bullet points that yea you you know arestruggling with, putting out a sentenceor whatever that you can lookat and be like. Oh, I see that you almost threw a no hitter in twothousand and sixteen. What was that, like you know, as opposed to knowingthat one hundred percent, you have to ask that question some point in theinterview aand, then, what about have you guys had interviewswhere you're like? Oh? This is only like twenty minutes, but there was somuch information and then sometimes you might have like a long one you're liketha, Don' like drag on yeah for sure and there's a lot of them were like youget through forty five minutes, and I look at my notes and I'm like there wasfour things thand I think would have been super interesting that I justtotally forgot to ask and you just kind of get caught up in the conversation,and it doesn't mean that necessarily t e stuff, you recorded, wasn't good, butthere's there's so many times where I have interesting stuff that I'vewritten down that I'd never even get a chance to ask, and some people justtalk more than a there's. You know we try and keep it in the thirty to fortyminute range. I think only the Joe Rogans of the world can go over an hourand keep people entertained. You know it's just I don't think we're Joe Roganand some people. You know you ask them a simple question and they go down likea little four minute tangent of what they childhood was like and like allthis stuff- and you know you got to kind of like bring them back down toEarth here a little bit and then, like I mean you can hear it in us every nowand then I go on a ten minute ran about something you know it's just everyone'sa little bit different everyone's passionate about different things andsome subjects get people fired up more than others and all of a sudden you'veeaten up half your clock before you've gotten anywhere close to what you wantto say. The funny thing that I always do like.I always go back and do the research again like after and then I'm like Hanl Ke. I wish I would I wish I asked that question or, like I see sometimg,just posted recently on social media, like I wish. I just ask them about whatthey just do: Yeah, I'm always so critical. I know of me personally BECbecause I edit the podcast for us, so I...

...have to listen back to it like in twoor three times. While I'm editing I and then make sure it's all working so likeby the time it's actually where the listeners listening it to it. I'velistened to it three or four times already so yeah. I hate hearing my voice for sure.Oh yeah yeah, that's yeah. I feelu on that too, at first first I didn'tlike.Now I'm going to hate looking at myself too, but yeah first, I first I didn't listento it either and then I started o listening to it like after I releasedit just to see just to like get the feel like what the audience was like us.Maybe I was thinking about that like coup. If we start using this a lot oftimes, I'm just like sitting in my underwearing, a road city recording apodcast, you know now so were in now we're going to do a video I mean Ididn't know this. One 's Gong to be video- I just usually my hair at least looks a littlebit less fluffy than this. You know at least little little bit done and shaded.I look like I have a moustache and this picture up here on the top left yeah.It's not great, O Hav to work on that. If we're going to start doing video, Ohyeah, there's there's so many times mon hotel rooms like halfway eating asandwich while you're going on a little rant or somethingt yeah. We need toclean that up. We use this yeah actually been going since in the coronavirus and everyone's home I've been going, lies like every day and can getilike a guest not, and now I'm like- oh no like I have to. Usually I don't havemy hand on my glassow, I'm just like recording the pockest, I'm like alright.Now I got to kind of get like ready, get changed, yeah go on line, and Ilike all right so that butit's kind of good, because now I'm gein kind of usedto being on camera more yeah. I think me and Ros Gott in the podcast the game,so we didn't have to beor O yeah. Now now, there's I think we have wihavefaces for the podcast came yeah, it's funny to because my theorywas like why I was like. Why are podcast ing big, so I'm like thinkingso people could probably do stuff and listen instead of like watch stuff,because you can't really do stuff, while you're watching TV show yeah forsure sut yeah, it's pretty crazy. I mean. Where do you guys think likepodcast is going yeah man? I don't know where else it can go right. I mean itseems like it's sort of a media in that. As far as how you consume, it won'tchange, but I think the innovation an like subject matter will just continueto grow. I mean you literally can make a podcast about anything and prettymuch at this point. BFORE doing that and every celebrity almost has anpodcast now, so I just think it's can get. It continueto grow. It's such an easy place to listen it's if you have a guest on. Ithink it takes a lot of the pressure off them not being in front of a cameranot having the pressure of having to be perfect, so yeah. I think it's onlygoing to continue to grow yeah. I would agree. I think it's, theonly I mean, as a guy that gets interviewed almost daily. A podcast iswhere I show my real personality and not even on my own podcast. When I gointo other people's podcast, I naturally relax a little bit forwhatever reason I know. That's, maybe not a good thing, because that's whenyou can say something stupid, I mean you hear amples of that all the time,but I just think podcast seen as a great media outlet for athletes. Idon't know celebrities in general to show the real personality that youdon't ever show to the beat writer that just interdewed you after a game orwhatever you know those stories are much more cut and dry as opposed to apodcast which is an hour of just kind of like laid back cut and loose andshowing off. You know what you're really passionate about in yourpersonality: Yeah, that's yeah! That's exactly why Ilike listen to him. Just because, like you hear the transparency and then youcould like, I feel like you get to know the person like way more than like a intheyre in most of them are kind of like unfiltered. I guess you Soald Sod, likepeople are talking regular, like normal, like how they woure Talkto, so yeah yeah, going into your career again Rosslike what was your first like Major...

League, Gamelike, good question. You know I it ended up going well atleast box score wise. We acitally lost the game, but you know when I look backat the debut. What I remember is just having like myfriends and my family there in San Francisco and and then obviously you go seven anda third no hit and get pulled at a hundred pitches with a no hitter going,and I've never had an opportunity like that to throw an ever again so- and Idon't know if I ever will get another one. So it stinks to not know if Icould have finished it. You know in a perfect world, I've said this a milliontimes we're winning that game. Ten and nothing and Dave Roberts comes outthere and says like look, but you got twelve more pitches, throwin down themiddle and let's see if they hit it to someone. You know kind of thing, asopposed to as a one nuthing game and it's you know we're in San Francisco,our heated rival and you know. Obviously we got studs in the back Ondof the Bullpin to try and come in and close that game out. So it just didn't work out that way, butman looking back how special Wa is it to have a debut like that in front ofso many, my friends in my family, like I mentioned, and it just really coolsomething tha I remember forever and obviously cherish and just a cool wayto start your career yeah. I remember I actually watching it and I was beforewe were really that close Mowe definitely knew each other, and I wouldconsider US friends, but I I remember tuning in just saying, like yeah, youknow I will watch a couple innings just in case it comes out. I could say Iwatched it and, and then you know, you know no hits first satting, second andthirty, and he just keeps going byand. I'm like I really about to watch nineinnings here and, and so I just got inaning to baseball.You ever watched yeah thit's yeah in about ten years, so so yeah Kno. I justremember like feeling like towards the six or seventh aning it felt like itwas the world series in my head, like I was just so hiph block and it was. Itwas a lot of fun. Yeah h t what other sports you guys into I'll speak forCooper and I'll. Tell you he's into just about anything his most recent one.Now that all lis downtime is into marble racing, a snatchhup from hiswife, the other day of him just going ham with one of his buddies aboutmarble racing but TNEN we're at the fantasybasketball and football players. Big Time into both you know, obviously theNBA nffl Cooper would say is now developing alove for baseball, but it's been slow. I think it's more of a love for dodger,since he knows them and has actually met a bunch of them. I think that helpsand other than that man. You know. I thought this would be a good test tosee what else I'm into and it turns out, I'm pretty shallow, I'm just into thethe big three. I don't think ICAN get into bowling and marble racing and UFCor WWI'm a stick to the basics. Yeah I mean, if you just give marel racing achance, it is the new Ay. It is a blast. No. I literally watched marble racing forno LE US Tan about two hours. I watched the time trials for each race and thenthe actual race. It is it's very dark over here at the CIRLS House, right now, Oh man and but yeah, I'm the same withTorosa. I love you know, obviously loved NFL, I'm a huge NBA Guy, and thenI was massive basical swelp fan growing up and kind of in the middle part of mylife. I just lost the touch for it and doing the PODCAST I've. I really founda new love for it and have enjoyed the pitching side of it, a lot getting totalk to Ross and so many pictures that side of it's been really interestingfor me to follow so yeah, definitely getting back into baseball. It'sactually funny. You say that too, because, like my favorite sport, Ialways say is baseball, but like the past few years, I kind of like esaidfelt out of love with it, and I actually just did a couple of minor league and MLB players Podcast,and then I was just like ban like yeah now. I now remember why I liked it andstuff like that. So it's been pe yeah...

...yeah I'll speak up for baseball justfor a second, it's just it's! It's it's an acquired taste. I guess is away you got to put it. You know. ' It's slow, not a lot of action, but if yougrew up watching it and appreciate it for what it is, it's such asophisticated sport and if you kind of understand into what goes into you know, second and third, one out Mike Trout upthe idea of like okay. What's the strategy here kind of thing, you knowit's if you can kind of sit and understand baseball for what it is,it's unbelievable to watch and inbelievable think about what reallygoes into grinding through a hundred and sixty two games, and I understandif you sit and watch a hundred, a D, sixty two games, nine innings night ina night day. I think you might be a little bit crazy, but some people do itman and they love baseball and it's a sport in the class all of itsown. If you ask me yeah back back in the day, I couldn't aim like everysingle starter on every team. Yeah, like definitely can't do that right now.I don't think I can do that. I can't do that. I think the the the part Ross you weresaying like it is such a sophisticated game and and if you are locked into ateam I think it's the most fun sports to fall like if you just are like hey,I'm a massive dodgers fan. I'm going to watch this four nights out of the week.It is the best sport to follow, but if you're just kind of a broad sports fanit, you know the the problem base ootball has is no one really caresabout players outside of their team, like, whereas I don't know NFL so big,with fancy football and then, like you, really care what Lebron's doing whetheryou're Le Bron fan or not. So I think, as a broad thing, baseball is kind ofhard to follow. But if you have one team, it's the best yeah yeah I mean Ithink, yeah and like baseball, I feel like it's like you most of the peoplelike the local team, Yeah N, that and that, like football,is like everybody likes. Anybody from anywor yeah agreed yeah Ross. What adice would you give tolike? A young athlete trying to make like or trying to get like a dew onscholarship orily trying t make a Proli yeah. I could ask this all the time to man. Iwish I had a had a crystal ball. I could share with every kid of what theyshould do. You know and really just kind of leaning on what I did, which isplay everything you know. Don't don't pigeon hole yourself to one sportbecause your parents said you need to or because you think you need to orwhatever give everything a shot and find what you're passionate about anddon't put too much pressure on yourself I mean it's so easy now to like get on instagram and I don't know,feel the pressure to like be something that you're not or to live up to some.You know, I don't know crazy expectation for yourself D and I justthink, go and have fun. I mean they'r sports.Their Games, they're meant to be played with your friends outside having fun,and I think the second that you take it too serious is the second you'll getburnt owt on it. Obviously, take it seriously in that you want to work hardand get better at it, but and if you're thirteen year old kid and you sayingI'm going to focus on baseball only for the rest of my life- I don't know Ijust I feel like you're taking opportunities away and I mean, like I said I dn't, evenpitched all his eighteen man. I didn't necessarily love baseball. I lovefootball and basketball and baseball is kind of a third sport and then I fellin love with pitching, and you know if I would have never takenthat opportunity. Andn just try to focus on baseball, I'm focus onbasketball. I would never be where I am today. So that's kind of what I say:Work hard find some your passionate about, but try everything under the sun-and I don't know- that's that's kind of what I said when a dad asked me is likehow's, my kid going to make the big legs I'm like I don't know. I wish I knew don't spend five hundredbucks a week on lessons. I don't know that necessarily helps just put a batin his hand to him go outside and hit rocks. You know something fun yeah now.I definitely feel you on that. Think. I think kids should definitely putmultiple sports grown up. Are you got...

...you guys ready for some fun? Questions?Are gonna go from average to savage yeah? Let's do it Alrg? What's your guy's is favoritesong right now, Oh good question. I like the it's man. I was justlistening to it. I like the blinded by the lights by the weekend that songgets me kind of fired up. I also like diplo and someone else made a countrysong man. I can't think of it. anyways diplocountry song, cracked out, I would say it's not necessarily new song, but Iwould say billy Ilish, Chosa, Oceaniye yeah. She jams, she's, good man, good.She Lik whispers at you and you're like come into that yeah. What about Rosh Wha wht about who's,been your who, as their favorite strike out against o Oman good question. I always hateanswering questions like these, because I feel like they're going to see it,and then I just gonna be like that mother, I'm never going to. Let himstrike me out ever again. Favorite one was, I came in out of thebullpen one of the first times I ever came in of He botpen in Colorado,Therere, multiple guys on Bass, remember the exact situation, but twoouts and I struck out knowing Aronato- and I remember I remember thinking thatwas pretty cool as I walked off the Mounton now and just because I was notused to come out of the Boltin at all Ol, so don't necessarily strike a tonof guys out, especially Noane Arinoto in Colorado, and was able to pull thatone off. That was a big one. I think that was that was like early twothousand and seventeen and what o you guys like to do in your free Tom.Besides marble racing, let me see, I don't have a lot of interest withbeyond marble and racing. Now I would say one of my favorite things to do. IsI love to go to to breweries. Like I love trying new beer and and going tobreweries, I'm pretty much a home body for the most part, but if I do get outand do something, that's probably what it is yeah I stay so busy between baseball thePODCAST, the stock market stuff that I had t do that my free time is usuallyin Gulf B, my wife and whatever she wants to do, and usually it's somethingfun. It's never anything lame. So whatever she comes up with for us isusually awesome, she's really good. At like diving into new cities. You know,let's say Chicago New York, Miami whereever. We are find a new place toeat something cool specific of that city that we can go, try that we alwaystry something new. Every time we go somewhere. Different EA leads up to mynext one. What r? What's your favorite travel spot? I really like Chicago. I like Rik Leefield, which is just obviously fun for the historic nature of the stadium andthey've redone, the locker room and the weight room and all that stuff whichused to just be atrocious, is now actually very nice and worth checkingout as a visiting player when he used to be spent as little time there aspossible and then the city of Chicago I love. You know we stay there right offof Michigan Avenue, which is all those shops, restaurants, bars and stuff inthere. That's really nice really clean. You can walk around. No one ever knowswho I am or anything like that, so we always like oing to Chicago the food.There is great- and you know it's just a cool baseball, town and city ingeneral. I'd probably say my favorite place that I've traveled to statesidewould be San Francisco. It just kind of feels like you're, not in America. Itfeels like you may be in a different country or something obviously like the physical andscape ofit is pretty crazy, but you just you just- can go to Chinatown, getamazing Chinese food. There's a there's! A Tyan food there's, obviously NAPAV Ahas incredible food and wine. So I would, I would say San Francisco is myfavorite city, I've traveled to I love Sam Fran, trureally cool, sitty WOA.Coming from a dodger. I know it's a funy place to go, play baseball man. Itreally is who's your guys, favorite athlete ofall time of good question. I usually say Lebron, I mean growing up a cowboys fan. You know youcould say like an Emmet Smith or a troy...

Akman or even like a love, pate manning,I loved paid manny man o Lik Right now. It's Lebron, I just to think of the brand that he's builtin to basically take on the city of La and Kobe's legacine Gobe a Laker whenhe could have kind of gone anywhere else than just you know done his thing.He went and took on the biggest responsibility that you could ever takein the NBA and to basically stink in the first year, get hurt and nowobviously we' got a short and season because of this virus, but to come backand play like MBP, Caledar basketball, and when everyone's talking about theclippers and all this stuff, I mean it's just really really cool to seewhat he's done for the NBA es, basically empowered the players. I meanthey're at a level that they've never been as far as how powerful theirplayers are, and it's major difference between them and us, and really othersports in general. If you ask me so I would say, Lebron have you got to meethim? No, I wish man yeah he's The podcastMecca, that's that's! If we could have any gas mean cooper, both say it'sLebron Yeah. Definitely lebront Lebron wouldbe my favorite athlete to I kind of when he was in high school. I rememberwatching him play one time. His junior season and I've been returning to myfriend and just being like that's my guy, like that's, going to be my guyfor the rest of his career and to have that level of expectations on you be onsports, illustrated, I think, as a sixteen year old and then to actuallypan out and then in the middle of your career, face more adversity. Peopledoubting you, people doubting you and then kind of go to this next phase ofhis career go back to Cleveland. When, again, it's just incredible to see someonewith that much expectation actually pan out and be great and it greater than weever could have thought he was and then like Rottad this next chapter in La like it's no easy task to take over asituation like that and to wield his power, get Anthony Davisand start this new dynasty potentially is incredible, and I'm just sad thatpotentially this season's been cut short and we didn't get to see what hecould have done. Yeah is that a Lebron Jersey behind it yeah? It is ther yea to l, brongers, Heloeah and last one. Who would youguys want to do a Jersey exchange with an I wish? That was a thing in baseball,yeah, that's WHA, Iwas Gointa say I want. I want to see it happen more inbaseball. Maybe you coul start ou yeah yeah, be that God yeah I'll, be that tril blazer. Well,what it does is it comes out of your paycheck. That's part of you know likewe pay for those. If we give them away which really it's not a ton of money,but if you're to start giving th m away every day, oyhundr sixty to I mean Ithink it's different right, Tim Ehundre and sixty two games yeah I mean in H, history. I would want totrade with either Griffy or Nolan Ryan. In current baseball I would probablychoose trout. I mean you got to choose with trout. He eats Hese the LebronJanes of Baseball, an no one even knows who he is. It's absolutely wild. Ithink it's a good example of how other sports are able to brand themselvesversus baseball players. Wer really struggle with that that you could havea superior athlete in the basically to the whole rest of the League and MikeTrolt, and you know, is in a housecolled name really. So I'm goingon a rent, but, I would say, trout, yeah. I love the the picture of thosetwo guys that did the Jersey swap in Vegas like Er. They were part ardeingall night. They like swapped their Hawaiian, teas Al that so much, but Ithink that I think that 'd pick Tom Braer Ady, like I feel like he's justlike bonof those I yeah. No, I o Pats, but like he's just one of those guys, Ifeel like that every player has respect for like there's, not one guy, thatyou've ever heard come out and say, like Mad Tom Bras, not all that or oneteammate. That says, like yeah he's not...

...a great teammate like he is the goat inthe eyes of fans and all the players. So I think, if I were an athlete to do,a Jersey swap with him, would just be a massive moment e loop of all thoserumors that came out that were like ohheys coming in and demanding controlof the offense and number twelve and all this stuff. And then he like cameout and was like or Oh, I think his coach maybe came out and said, like HEU,didn't ask for number twelve. He didn't ask for anything about the offense. Allhe asked was for every teammate's phonen number and I was like yeah he'se's Te Geta, a SIC Bron Awais, grabit yeah, all RIH got. I got one bonusquestion because me and my friend's been talking about it if he wins theSuer bowl year, one at Tampa, because the superbowls in Tampa this year ornext or whatever you want to say you think he's like the go of goat, yeah,'s and Jest Hind is the greatest American athlete of all time. Yeah. Ifyou do that, I mean it's like him and Jordan like there's. No one else: FIIBouti, O the superbowl in the first year, Itot Byeah insane and got thatWole curse of it, where the Super Bowls playd and all that stuff, and if hedoes, that he's got a hunt on that second year of the deal and U Jus O Sunset Man, you've done it you'll be Marri yoursel and live yourlife yeah, Oh man, what a life for that guy good for him! Well, I appreciate you guys coming onand could you let the listeners know where Hey coul follow you and yourpersonals and your podcast yeah go to at big swing on twitter and instagramand we're on Itune, spotify and anywhere else. You can listen. It'scalled the big swing Ross and I have been doing it for a couple years now wehave athletes on there. Other people from other walks of life, baseballfootball, basketball, pretty much everything so yeah go check us out onthere and my twittered instagram is just at Cooper, sirls, yeah N. I guess I'm just at Rossstrippling. It might be Rost underscore strictly, and I can never remember, butyeah check us out. Big Swing, podcast and we'll see you guys there.

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