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Royce White | Average to Savage EP6

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This is the sixth episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring Royce White. Paul Guarino talked with Royce White discussing his basketball career, mental health awareness, and his future projects! Follow Royce White https://twitter.com/Highway_30 https://www.instagram.com/last.renaissance.man/ https://www.facebook.com/therenaissanceman/ Powered by Trimino Protein Infused Water https://www.drinktrimino.com -- PG Sports is a digital sports brand that has been Everywhere & Anywhere since 2011. With a rapidly growing social network, we are dedicated to designing fresh apparel, breaking sports news, and connecting athletes to fans! ---- Follow Us Online Here: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pgsports Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pgsportsct Snapchat: https://www.snapchat.com/add/pgsports Website: https://www.pg-sports.com Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/pgsports

This is the average Tis avage podcastwith Balgarino everyone in anyone, athletes selectsand much more. What's up, everybody got to be thesixth episode of the average sevence O podcast got another special guests forRECE: WAIT: roce! What's Un how you Don Meg, good Youre Gude? How about youANI'm great man? I can't complain: I'Mi'm Young Andi'm, healthyand, I'mtalented and ICANT. I can't ask Ho Grat, so, let's just jump right into it andCoul tell th the whisters little bout yourself yeah, where to start right,yeah I ean yesiytoprobably wmost well known for having avocated for Ritalhelpand the NBA play Ta Iwas Stat University. We wantto be drafted and this wer. This is advocacy. Mibo policy really came tofoition from the play city, Minnesota, Grewup Bost, both parts of the TWAYCITYS IFNEAPOLIS SA call lifelong athletes, huge athletic family, Ertos,very diverse family, cultural background. And yes, here we are here.We are yea. So, besides playing basketball, when you were younger, youplayany other sports, yeah yeah played baseball, play soccer, BLAC football,so yeah, definitely a multysport athlete Yeh. Until about the ninthgrade, I say where, where the basketball piece became more morespecializeding all year round, Su Yeah, I mean growing up in Minnesota, wereyou into hockey or no? Now I was here. I never played hockey,but I a lot of friends Ha Waye Hockeyan. You know I knew ai know. I do a lotabout with a lot of games crim that played and things like that. But I'venever never played myself for sure for sure so, coming out of high schoolyou'R, a topic crew or go Jordan, Ol Americans, all the accilades, all thatand then you got a lot of choices to go to Yo, choose choose to stay Minnesotaand then transferred Iowa state. You Played Iowa Sa for one year and thenyou decide to go toe MBA right right right. You know yeah! Actually Iremember I remember being in college, seen you Iwa Stat, just Boll OuonYoucono here, because I'm in Connecticut and that's that's how I actually firstI guess discovered you and then I remember one time I was just likethinking. I was like Yoah where's that Guy Rose Awayat and then I looked upyour story and stuff. That's why I got in contact with you and then aeer kindenough to let me publish that open letter to the NBA, and actually thatwas like the biggest most of you. Art Go Oad on Mysic SOFOR, oh Wowman, yeahwith yeah, you know know I a lot of people even Hav, seen that Ar Cameanyou know I. I beg the question of well first ofe. That was that that was areally TORC O dinaway to meet. You know fact tha that you time game it was atwas a fun. Experience obviously was my first Instela Tournament and I had cutesuccess and then we had some success. We playe the defeget chap that year,even though they were, you know not od not telling, with Whit the services ofKimel Walker, who is Ifre, Aker and decosh. Can the legind was Wa on BoutDiss? Well, so you know we eplayed a lesser uton team than we could havepaced, but you know nonetheless wewre able to bee them. That was that was ahuge moment: Priwas state basketball, history and definitely got flad Ale hat.We got to Crosspass throug that that that time period and yet man Ijus didthe letter. You know it it just it Wasi it was' dissiminated the same way youfee a lot of these other open letters for people disseminated. You know theseplayers, dens or other places. You know it just it just wasn't. It just wasn'tcirculated the same way, and you know I just you know. You know, I think thatthat's very intessyo that was a very intestional not only because the MBA has as apolitic media infeence, which they most certainly do more. So because theimplications of me clarifying my story immediately put some people in themedio ave stick the position in this conversation in Myin, my story, art onone side or the other tofirmly you know become. They start to look wrong right.So that's that' part of the reason why I think that it didn't it didn't carrythat that same eposure, that you see a lot of these other players, openletters getit. Even my most recent open leter whas for the Senta on much longer, much more and SOM tesoation as ta sowell talk about, but much more as been has been confetised. Since this youknow, Minalelt, Ezehology, tat, ID Mely, publicly and and disgusting, and an a positive viter in an enclusivelight or in n a commitment to education...

...like and my ladest letter still has'tHavn't got the media circulation that these other people's letter getin partof that is because I criticize the media in the letter- and I call themercenary, which I think is totally actor so for sure they got so followquestions for that later. But so back to you getting drafted, you got drappedin first around sixteenth over all by the rockets right right, right, twothousand and twelve. So what was that? What was that experience like it was?It was a bi, crazy time teran, I want to say it was Jus all Typin, fun andall thos things, but, and it was of some of those things, but there was aiuge conversation brewing about my anxiety. IWOULD affect my draft topeople's view of my er FYING, which was overblown people ask me questions aboutmyselff that I' not inso to answer from within the NBA from the media that Icried my bet Dan der anyway, because I saw it as a opportunity to set somelight on at least te Pott Othe, the preleminary knowledge th I had at thetime was mytof landscape, which was you know three four degrees better than thegeneral awareness of the the bat public Ds. They wouldn't be asking me thewodomio question that they werent. So you know all of those things weresporling around at the time, and you know just a very peculiar time and mostof my time in my dog Pak up for your overlad degade is just been reallypeculiar. You know it's just I've seen people do things or say things thatwould just make you stretch your EADSO asure. So you think your drafts notfill because of Thatbutthey UA. So and maliple people ha said that SAS beenthat you know top five talent winfall in is brand because it's because of hisanxietys O whattop. So I think I think the the verdict I it in on that on thatfront. No, so so what was your experience like? In the Rockets Organization, pepn organization? There were some.There was some some ofthe types, people in Oranization. You know the people that I had good experienceswith the SOM people that I had some bad experiences with. You know there's somecoases ter a like tha, like Dicke staff. I, like Keakill, I like the guyf downthere by name Aterr Costo, like dear Costi, dureros JIs, was Assistan GM atone tointi like him. He wasn't. He wasn't a bad guy. He wasn't. He wasn'ta stand up in hi, hones forth writer. I would have liked to be one certainconversation once o certain places. I didn't mind AINKE. I thought he was areasonable voice at certain points of Gime, probably card a little bit differentperspective on thing than I do that I did I and, in the end, with Woul,probably advise one way versus the other, and you know it is contributionto the whole situation and then in Ta Fuser to my Myle in Philadelphia aswell, where he would en thebotheu Mana, not a sin Manaan. You know I so butthretherere people that you know t that I had good experience with and then youknow there are people that I did and Darrel you know more. I was definitelya person that you know just just wasn't not a well grounded guy. You know I isbest to be in the situation that we were in yeah. I mean it ha it had allthe ingredients to, but just expose how notgrounded someone I right so andthat' kind of what end of Aenbetamian e. So were you disappointed like notplaying for the rockets Sinc they drafted yo or that? Were youdisappointed that you didn't get to play like a regular season game withthe Rockets Yeah R Depaymeni? Like the SI n like to be Usto Man, I got muchlove for Ous Toi, the people there eexpresmen, but support love. For me Imean there were the occasional Internet sols that were emerging at the time,and you know what do you want to call h their deerate and Al the other kind ofcrazy? You know distankerd mantic, that people doin the Internet wats happeningat that time too, but you know overall, the support from the Ush community waswas nature and yeah. I pretty much ancmy pay in Y A lot oftimes. I've died in my PR inker Mi play based on the community, an I find thatthat comunity value and I let that protell my place. I was reallydisappoint In't, get a chace to play that, besides the fact that we wouldhave been really good, you know Houton Gos out they try to get thewhite Howr to try to do all these different moves. That into my being,you know the thing that would Puti into the the way they wanted to be, and nowthey're n the abeter play. You know we coulda we couldawe could have praic. Ifeelings a lot earlier. Had it been had I been playing theree yeah for sure. Sothen they trat Mhey wouldhave...

Adedanyway Sole Othatso. I meantit'shard today, but you know it S. just it's just a it's Gonbe Hard, O bicase.You know you had some guys there that that played really well Anva before youknow Ye Oner, hotic, therenot, O my Feonis Day Cares Yon btis ar no nopusshover. Now I don't think that they don't have to say angame changinability to I do, but they really are really good players. He they tratedthem to so h for sure. So you can ty the rocket Straner to Seveny sixers andthen the Sen sixers caugt you, but I was reading. I was doing somebackground stuff in all these NBA analysts were surprised that you gotcut. So what happened there right right, yeah! That's a good question e Thosein,analys, Analyza ee! That's good question! I wondeingtheame Tingi, don'tknow Usto Igei, don't know we're leaving in that. I don't even know ifthos are saying yet EYOA. My point ths. It is whole thinggoing on in the sports world in general, but but you know specifically, I justteach to the NVA where ther's just I it the losin or did Belusin of Health Control and competence andknowing what you're doing- and you know I don't have yo how everything getpeople that play stain a p sports or that participated pantaty sports. Butyou know for people at home, teding or fans to think that the NBA in their GMSanything more than you know, high level business, Dani, Belegue, they're,kidding themselve, because these peols don't know their ass from Tyour elbum.I mean that's treality, you feet every you dot every year in the draft,there's always a player where they're like he's too buse too shore he otBlickinoug. He does. Is She well enough? He didad you knont, fucking, noughthever played most of them never played et'Sutu, keep it Realyou, nome Iketor,drafreen inthe in the later part teck around t e yea that yet dracted,because you don't understand what it is to be a dog and you don't understand,beindancefor the thing that don't sow up on the statue, so Annalistyo Alytiguys like Garrol Mori and an I fam Hae. You know they're always going to have aborn spot yeahso. So after the Sy Sixers the king signed you right andthen you find went, you went to the dleague and then they called you up,and you made three appearances: how Mo that allhappen? A AWASSO I mean it. It Wasit was one Guynorda es off, saw vison to tplay me ad to one wove by thetomas to the tube more of his national sporposition play Mapamore at the three years there at the time Wer to gettefor temarket Cosin Centifie, which would a very a formidable line of te ID,be a vomitable line up now, and you know people that Ta, I Gidmiin theorganization about about. You know what the direction needs to be and, and thatcame Tho polition outside of me after me, in the fact that you know thepeople who were there, are there anymore in those positions that coasisn't there sm isn't there and some other people in organization that thatacare as well so some of the players Seerdon' know how he tothe ca thi getbetter without having those Kor type of players. I just I don't know I don'tyou know, that's what I mean it like Anlok, get that an o man. People do notknow what they're doing as much s. They think they do yea Soyeah, but I meanwasn't e awesome accomplishment to like get on the bet on get in the NBA game.o I mean they'. Not really am I mean, I think H. People couldcould say thatthat justit be such a low lot markor lowvalue for towar I weri should be her. I really get my my own prasal system ofmy own. You knowvalue or Woror, accomplishing things or goal is like muoimes more proud that the NBA has thefirst mithealth director and all the Pro Sports Tan Didn, get in for fiftyseconds on a ten day, Youno Rigi, I put me for fifty seconds, Mor a Pacaiaccomplishmentd. You think they did that as a publicity snot. You thinkthey did that as a publicity snut, the Kings, Idon't Knowwho, would they be edayou guys are coming up with n yourMark Eting oyear. We got biggr in us in your basketball Ayoua. We got to talkabout your your physe, a in general and...

...then Tus y life Actmento, that is, thatis a horriblehorribly, ineffective sturt. You have the first identifydemographic conditional demographic make a demographic aware of your of youand in order to pull I te, you have to establish some type of of Yov toetablish something with the with the COR audience. If your X, Pul tk, that'saffected, so the next season, two thousand andfifteen now and you sign with the are Youyea you soun it the clippers for thesummerleag yeah and then what happened there. Yeah I mean we, we we practice o beforewent to Somee League. They, the team, the people in h, offictold you that you know they they'v Een. Every did manyty the seaside, and Ididn't need to play that much in oreally. I Si o not playing that muchand and o not doing that much t Thatcata like Wey, or something likethat out of the entire ahundred twenty minutes that we play an play like fivegames or maybe like a hundred sixty minutes so yeah I played like five tol me, twentyminute total. So I mean it's just it's just one nother one of the situationsthat I've been fom across where, where it just E, was a fair Sa, you knowtesis to reality. So so they just you didn't think they haveany intentions to sign you to the team, I'm not ur. They want dtthatit Wasti,think that they wanted t they wanted to engage the relationship an a much moreslowin methoic matter than I wanted to you know I want to tin to tunme intothe ball. I E EI. Let see him all the bullshit stand stands up. You know,stand up but yl. I O iall the bullshit about about my game or about theDingidea the PIR time. Let's be that send te hold up or- and they kind ofwanted to do, a thing where they wait see. Howi did and in bring back latersee o Idi forme Bak laters like yeah, I'm not into it Ito, it c Bcaus, reallywhat it does. What really? Overall, what iwhatit lends itself to is againthis this Tas Mein Turmes that that me talking about misl health is actuallymore of a distraction or a risk than it is an Esenity, and I jui don't agreewith the purpose on a fondational level, yeah ut, the most important ise andsociety today in Feterit, its no more of a RIS NEF tote Ri should says: NOTArisk its no more of a risk than it needs to be and is totally quantifiablyin category BEA necessity to be having that conversation to do something neesfor men, fo in that space, so yeafor sure so it's two thousand and fifteen,and then you ended up not playing basketball season right right right andnow I go back almost a year R, later in December twonnd. Sixteen you signedwith the National Basketball Leo Canada so tat how Com come e go just connectonWithnagen you playe that Hav played there Imsyou're itching to come back, play basketball right or that youwereitching to come back to play basketball right yeah. I definitely need to getsome different stuff. Outyou know when you, when you build up a life like alike long, routine of competitive, competitive, exertion and competitiveExpressiov, you got to get that you got to get thassit out and I gesit wantedto play, but I didn't want to play you. No. I just I just wanted to find theright spot and all the situations over in Europe at the time, because it wasso close to to my situation in Houston. You know Spressin Allof, ther, poal,post years or doubts about me being a distraction as well, and I was justtired of like trying to prove acason about myself being important, so I judtEnde up not moving on any o Tho thisuse, I mean more than Os opportunities andwhen the Canada one came, it worked out that it was some we could go forwardwith. For sure I mean you dominate in the League winning MBP in thechamponship and and when I see I tice, oh you wan. You want t p this year too,I got hated out. Avy is year, Bu Yeah, allright, so anyways you killed it in Canada.Right so was there any? was there any NBDA, ateams reaching out like after all this? Now after they seen a dominate thisweek? Of course not no Nwow, I woild it cauld you just couque. Why would teyyoucant Yo can't work UF, the femise that the only the only driving force ofthese ndateens to win games or make money US er ater? You can tell by Carl Youn,said that you can asspire people's motives by it. The results right, so wewook at people's results. We look at...

...their actions. We look at their results.Twe can start Taing, first Om some of their motives and it isn't ente whatthey dated actually most of the Timi. What People Sayi that there, theirtheir moents soy people, can come tohe table and say you know we want to wingames the one O build a Mani forer days. Ou No want the ordudation, I mean Somin,the community w want. Is You want that? Your Tusityou know your copitenwant to do a little work asPossiblei an make fundy and be able to survive and navigate the tentre and and be around and hopefully move up and and along the way. You know, you'lldo things a Badthngthatte man bit the Mbay, an the nap, because the thingthat you do carry the needs for you to Exprienc that you actually know whatyou're doing versus general curiosity or an exploration right. So if I'm inthe OTE SI placais like well, I'm putting together, I poveses- I don'tnecessarily know the oucomes going to be. That's why we're joing theexperiment in the FVA? You have to take your you reputation in your in yourvalue on being right about something Toin, the case you're, not right. Youhave to come a Withan exuse, FY you're, not writing off the time to Gijus thereality mqecoure. They wouldn't all me because they would have o admit thatthey were being gise on Onot, only not only on a structurallevel in the public, but there are people that are that would have topersonally in their heart. It made that they were wrong and the implications ofbhem being wrong in my situation in my situation is heavy on their ownpersonal light. TNIGHEYOU KNOW: Whatwe Wer strucually wrong about Miell OIT's,Mark Uin Gon. No, this guy actually is that oe being eglected, and not only Iyou de Eglecte, with the doubte Baverage, a probably Bein teglie in myown personal life, and if I adnid that he was right and I was wrong and thatwe were wrong and that might just ta need to change something in my personallife right now, and I do don't want to do that- There's no Therno vten than Iwant to do that anymore, Oday than I wheni when I put in the Fubo the firsttimgote. So what about so? What do you think of like Kevin, loveand deMargeros, an coming out and then now like everybody'? No now everyone waslike feeling bad in what it wanted to help and stuff like that. But when yousaid no one care yeah, I don't know what it were. E Time were movement andin the spotlight and people needing to be a partof. Somethingneeding to be to get the kin in a way to have a voicis just ditorty and oscuring of many conversations with avs o did one ofthem, the granddaddy of them, but just one of them and and I knowifeoe reallyfeeling bad. I don't. I don't take that for face value. I think this will helpthe DOLP up a momentmon society because of the Batedultswev got you wherepeople knew that it was appropriate response to Sayg wow. This is a really.This is a really courageous thing to do yeah, but I don't know if they reallyunderstand the afpications of it ind part of it is that maybe they don'tneed to maybe there's a collective efols that actually Sak an molds. Theway that we think to Responde to Social Aternintho for examples like the BronJame to the EACTO, specifically understand why you need the jokon tax,O Yotte Hulp in the moment, because collective we've all moved towards a greater copassion formit to healt. Asyou know, as Aso that's much different Thouh, because then you individually goout and have a bunch of things to say, and it's not really Respectiv orconplatives, and it misses the fone right like, for example, like I repect,even loving, to Mareros an I respect, Kelly littlebray and thy Ronloeverybody else as spoken Ou. Now at this point, but the real question I is:Why is it Seo whyis it ss such occurs for them to speak on the first place?Coul O need that we do have AC. I goul be that we still have a digma aroundminthe health that has 't move at as aciety or maybe even more stoiticallycu. It be that we all want the basketball player for a few basketball.Players is Poe an issues and they were cast out for so the immediate threat ofdisposing your struggles in Apparen to everybody. So that's what makes it seemmore crat we allwant. We all want all WAA guy,walk down the alley and come back with his head. ACKTHE next GUYTA Walk Omawere like Damn Dogo your PA Hil. You know so e that God Fuckin in the basketball, Sfield spatifically,but also just ingrate sports Youtu- that Misu hasn't been achknowledge ordiscuss any way. That' a SIGIICA or ro...

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