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Shane Gibson | Average To Savage EP73

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This is the seventy-third episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring pro basketball player Shane Gibson. Paul Guarino talked with Shane Gibson discussing growing up in a small town in Connecticut, his college basketball career at Sacred Heart University, and his journey from the NBA D-League to playing basketball all over the world. Follow Shane Gibson https://www.instagram.com/_ShaneGibson

This is the average to savage podcast, with ball Greno everyone in anyone, athletes, so ebs and much more. Drop everybody on back for another episode of the average savage podcast. Or special guests today is pro basketball player Shane Gibson. Shane, how's it going? So man, I'm good. How are you good? Thanks for coming on. I appreciate it. Doubt you know you're my guy. So let's go back in time and how did you first start playing basketball? Well, so, when I was a little kid, like three years old, my dad was a you basketball coach and like used to travel and he would take me and my brother with him and we beat the ball boys and like that's how I first like got involved the game of basketball and like fell in love with it. I just look up to like the high school kids and like want to be them at a young age and like a brother was playing and I wanted to be like him. So that's is how it happened. Gotcha. Now you came out of Killingsley, Connecticut, Small Small County, and killing Lee. Killinglee so small, you know, is so what was that like? Just so you know, being from a small area and not getting that much attention. I mean people who live in Connecticut don't even know that it exists. Like it was very hard. Anything I did was just downplayed. No, I'm saying like I could drop fifty and it be it beat down plate. So it was hard. But Luckily I met a couple people had a good a you team, and I started to travel around the country and started to play and like see other talent and get my name out there a little bit more. And then one of the tournaments was as sacred heart and I played well. I was playing I was fifteen. I was playing with like the sixteen seventeen group and I played well. So one of the coaches that sacred heart saw me and then he ended up off for me a scholarship and then, like that's how I like got noticed, got a chance, a deep one. If it wasn't for that, I don't know what I would be doing right now. So what about like during high school? was there was there a point where they you knew you go, do you want? Yeah, so that happened. So, like I said, I was like fifteen or sixteen. So like...

I knew I'll go d one from that point and I ended up signing my end of my junior year for my senior year even started, like my senior basketball season a been started, so I knew I was going to do one that whole season. So it was Sakereheart, you're only offer I had, say good heart and Central Connecticut. Those are my only only two offers down. And so what made you pick take her over central? When I visited the school's I just felt more comfortable a sacred heart, even though Centralout the time they had I think they had just won the conference tournament, so that they had that going for them, but I just felt like I could have a better career or sacred heart, but I don't know, just felt more comfortable with them and coach Kidd was the first one to spot me and he was at sacred heart and I just had loyalty to them. God, yeah, definitely, definitely. What was your experience like a cigar? Overall, it was cool. I mean I did five years. So they gave me an opportunity to red shirt after my freshman year because we had a junior guard and then three senior guards in my position and I was just like it wouldn't make sense for me to try to compete with all these dudes just waste a year my eligibility. Went on to so many people in my position and they were good, like which Chaunty, hardy, Corey Has Sen Ryan Leckey, Drell Thompson, like these are these are names that people are sick of hard know. So I was like I'm going to read shirt, and I was kind of skinny back then, something like I'll read shirt, focus on school and just get bigger, like stronger and come back ready for the next year and then. So that's what I did myself formore. I came back at average like seventeen points. So it was a good idea to do and overall my experience it was great. I mean I can't really complain, like the coaches. They allowed me to play the style of basketball that I wanted, like that's the main reason why I was as said, would hard was to play basketball chase my dream, and the coaches gave me a lot of freedom in that aspect. So I can't complain about anything really. Yeah, everything...

...that's like school and like the life that I was living. Like they treated me well, like I can't complain about anything. Yeah, definitely, and I think senior year. You're a senior. I think junior and senior were't even like top ten scoring right. Yeah, junior year I was number four in the country and then senior I was number nine. I started off slow senior year. I'd like a at the beginning of the year I had a a knee problem, so that kind of helped me back, but I ended up and averaging twenty five and conference play, but only like twenty throughout the whole season. Yeah, this just twenty one and more man and and then going into into like the NBA draft and you played for the Summer League and with the Kings, and what was that like? That was cool because, all right, so that the way that happened was my agent knew like a trainer at in Sacramento. They're like very close. They dealt with each other for many years. You sent guys that a train. So I was out in California like the that whole summer leading up to the Summer League and I ended up getting like a workout with the Kings at their facility and I put on a show. I got the good and they're like I like. They we didn't like we don't even know about you, never heard about you, like, but we want to give you a chance, like we'll put you on our summer league team and like that's how that happened. So the whole that's chance and just look. Yeah, so I know, I know you didn't played during the two thousand and thirteen season. So we were you doing that in that time period? Yeah, so that it was up to me and my agent. He was like he gave me an option, like do you want to go overseason play basketball because I didn't get drafted? Do you want to go over see that season starts in September, and he's like you want to do that? Or do you want to go to the D League, which starts in November? But if you wait till the D League starts in November, like it's going to take like we're taking a chance because we don't know if you can get on a roster after they already start and have their guys and all that. So I was like now I want to go...

...to the d league, like I feel like I could play an NBA. I feel like I should be an NBA, like I'm going to chase that. So we went with the D league. Row when I got there for the tri outs in November, they wanted me to play point guard. And I was. I've been a shooting guard my whole life. So like just to switch over to point guard, like in one of the best leagues in the world all of a sudden have two weeks to prove that I can play point guard out of nowhere, like it was a lot for me. So I didn't perform well, obviously, so I didn't make the team. So then after so now I'm just asked out, like so I'm not in the D league. The overseas season already started there to got their players. Like I'm not going to go play for something like bumping and like either. If I don't perform well enough now, my stock drops. So we ended up just staying home and I just worked out like that whole winter, just like like I was so pissed off, Bro I would get up at like zero in the morning, hit the track, like come home, he sleep, wake up at like three, go to the gym, work out in the gym for like two hours. Right after that go to the weight room. That was six days a week. I'll do this shit because I was just like like you almost show these dos like down the real deal, like there's no way that they got to disrespect them. So then that whole season I sat out just thinking about like what I was going to do that next season, and then I got my opportunity the next year and then the rest is history. Yeah, so, going into that a two thousand and fourteen season, the you got drafted by the Idaho stampede in the d league. Yeah, well, actually, yeah, it's true. Yeah, and then now Geelie, whatever you want to call it. So then you did what exactly you just said you're going to do. So what was it like, just playing in the d league with great former college players and some MBA players. Man, it just let me know like that I wasn't wrong about myself, like I wasn't. I didn't have illusions. I wasn't like delusional like I however I felt about myself was real, and I got to show myself that...

...and other people that, like, I could play with these dudes. Like it wasn't a problem for me. I'm saying, it was just like it was a proof and like reassert reassurns that I was in the right spot, and I mean that I'm chasing the right dream. Yeah, definitely. I mean, you put up great numbers, and was there any point where they might called you up to the NBA. Yeah, right, so there's like there's prospects, like NBA prospects, the top for every team. They give you a list of the top three NBA prospects that have a chance to get called up. And not my team, I was. It's at one of the top three prospects. So and I was on the sixteen guy on the roster during training. Can Yeah, but like midway to the season I was in on that list of the top three. Like dudes have opportunity to get called up. And like the Golden State Warriors Do you league team? They're the ones who drafted me in two thousand and thirteen, but then they traded my rights to to the Knicks. So I tried it off for the Knicks, but the warriors, dally team drafted. So then the two thousand and fourteen incomes. I'm playing well, then they go they warriors do league team was like yeah, we're interested, blah, blah, like we'll see what happens. I keep playing well. So if everything went well, I could have been playing with curries. It just didn't happen and the I would or Idaho team was affiliated with the jazz right. Yeah, you touch so so since so they could have called you up right. Yeah, it didn't go it goes. Yeah. Well, yeah, I was just curious because you said the Golden State Warriors. So then could they pick you up? Could any team pick you up off the dally team? I think so. I think so, like if something watch you like, I think they could call you up, but I'm not sure exactly how it works. Honestly. I mean that it was. That was a while ago. So yeah, sure, yeah, I mean that would kind of make sense because that's how an NFL to practice squad works. Like you're on anyone's practice squad. They could pick you up and sign you on a hundred and fifty three man roster.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I think that's that's how it goes, but it's an happen. So that's disrespected from that suit. So, like the definitely a chip on my shows and the way I go about things. Like there's definitely a ship. Just more motivation, for sure. So since two thousand and fifteen you've been all over the world. You've been to Italy, Canada, Bulgarias Cypherus, Germany. Now you're in Croatia. So, yeah, take me through all that. Like what's it just been like on the core and off the court, like living in different countries? So two thousand and fifteen, I went to after the the thing. I went to Italy for like three months. I was there and it just didn't work out, but that would like that. Italy is amazing, like I would definitely live there. I would go back. The people, people treating me gray around town like they they don't really speak English, like most of the people around don't speak English. But like when I got there, my poster was already up around the city, so like people knew who I was and they would like take care of me. Like I'll go to the grocery store and like they would just show me extra attention, like I would help me like figure out what I had to do, how much money I had to pay, but blah. So like that was cool. That's like people around the world just take care of you once you get there. It's really amazing. So then I left Italy and then I went to Canada and then that league is like full of American so that was like just being at home everybody. People are from New York, people are from like Minnesota. Like that was easy to conform to because everyone spoke English. So that was cool. And then you want to I was one in the championship there, right. Yeah, I mean that was my first championship like ever. So that was a great feeling and the guys that I play with, that's still to this day like as one of the best teams that ever played on. Like talentis like top to bottom. Like I feel like that same could complete with any team that I've been on. So then after Canada, when a championship there, then...

...the next year I go to or so I want to get back into Europe because that's where the money is, like that's what the best basketball outside of the NBA is, is Europe, and the money is good here too. So I want to get back into the year market. So I had to go to Bulgaria to do it and play and just kill there. I didn't really like Bulgary, honestly, like I would live at the people treating me great, like. I can't say anything bad about the people, I just just not for me. It's not somewhere that ever wanted to be, but it's just something I had to do. But the people were great, like they treated me great, like they all appreciated my talent, like I felt appreciated there, and like I just want them to know thank you for taking care of you. Want you more to racing by too, and your MVP. Right. Yeah, the League, on off it. We played in two leagues. We played in the Bulgarian league and played the Adriatic League. And, like you, it's like a whole. It's like a Rocko. You'll travel to like just travel all over Europe, playing different teams in international league. So I got the MVP of that and we won the championship of that League. So that was pretty cool. So each year stock when going up. Right. Yeah, for sure. So I, like I said, so I had to come to Europe to like make a name for myself in Europe so I could like earn more money and move up. So then after that Bulgaria year, I went to Cyprus. There I'd like tripled my money and one year, like from one years to the next, trip of my money and the little life is great in Cypress, like it's an island. It's one of the nicest beaches in the world, like a top tourist destination, and the team that I played for a lived right on the coast so every day I would drive to practice and out to the left would be the beach and like palm trees and then like bars and like restaurants right on the beach. It was cool. Like after practice, sometimes during like morning practice, I will go to the beach and like to sit there and like...

...look out and just think about my life and like where, how far I've come. Loo's like that. So that was cool. Um, then we wanted championship there as well. So I won three in a row and I was like the MVP of that league to so at that point I'm like Yo, I want three straight championships and three different countries. Like I'm feeling good, yeah, and I'm like like really motivated to keep continuing like with what I'm doing. So then I get an opportunity to play in Germany and the Champions League, and that's like one of the top leagues outside of the NBA in Euroleague, Champions League, is it. So then I go to Germany to play for a telecom upon and when I get there I'm on like a month, like a one month, like a tryout period, because they're like we don't know if you can play at this level. Like it's crazy, like I had to go through so much bullshit, like fucking never. But anyway, so I'm like a right, I'll do it, like I'm just I'm going to bet on myself every time. I get a month to prove to you that I can play here. Let's do it. So I go and like I'm not getting that many minutes, like not really playing that much. I'm on the bench a lot, whatever. So then they're like all right, well, we will give you another month to see, like if you can like prove US wrong whatever. So then at that second month they give me the same amount of time, but like I'm just like all right, so they're going to send me home. I fuck it, like I'm about just kill, like I'm about this shoe whenever I feel like I'm just do whatever I want when I'm on the court. Let them know who I am, not just I'm not going to leave here without letting know. So then I killed that month and they're still like we want to bring in a point guard. I'm not a point guard, but like, I end up killing that month, which set me up to get money in Korea. So once I left Germany, I went to Korea and South Korea and played. Oh they I forgot about that. Yeah, like until Korea, like the...

League is you have to be six to and under to be a guard and like six seven and under to be a foreign big man, because they don't want like dudes coming in. It's like annihiliing their their national players. Yeah, so I end up getting up to that league, like great money, gray situation, but the basketball is different. They're like an American can only like can only play in the first quarter, only one person at a time. Like you can't in the first quarter. So they usually go with the big man. He'll start the game and then the guard comes in for like the second quarter and the third quarter, and then in the fourth quarter you can only have one not like a foreign around the court again. So I guess they want their national players to shine. So I wouldn't play like the second and the third quarter, and that was crazy for me. I wasn't used to that. Yeah, so I didn't have like rhythm. So it's didn't work out. So after a month I left there and went back to Cyprus, and it's because I was like comfortable, like I just wanted to be comfortable up to playing for two different teams. Yeah, that's sure. Spent a time learning two different play books, like two different team, groups of teammates. It was just fucking hectic. Bro Some like y'll, let me just go back to cyclist and like let me just relax my mind and just I know these people, they know me, like I can just enjoy basketball again. So I went there. We ended up going to the finals, but we end up losing, but it was something I needed to do, like just to just to relax myself and I'm saying, yeah, get that sit over with. That year it was so awful. Brou were you playing for the same team? Yeah, same team, same organization, is cool. Different teammates, though, a couple of different teammates, so the dynamic was a little bit different, but that kind of played until the reason why we lost the finals. But it is what it is. So for years, four trips in the final, three championships, and now so last...

...season ends and I'm like all right, let me just reset, like I needed to reset myself, like after that fucking insane as year basketball. It's like I I didn't want to look at a basketball or anything like that. So I came in for a couple months and just like relaxed. I ended up getting surgery on my hand in the summertime, so I gave me some time to like stay away from basketball and just like relax, not really do much, and then I got a chance to play in Croatia and now here. I am playing for Savona, and that they like a really historical, like a historic team or like a lot of history. Had A guy named Petrovitch played in the NBA, but he was like tragically killed in a car accident like young. He's like a legendary. We got to play for the nuts. Yeah, so he's like a legend around here. The gym is named after him. So I get through. I've learned like a lot about their culture and like it's a great place to be. Like I have no complaints the people here. Again, like I said, all the countries that I've been to like the people of treating me so well, like they like want to take care of me, like they like me. Like it's crazy. It's a crazy experience to think that you can leave your country, come somewhere else and they all going to love you like treat you right. But it's true, and then they don't in your own state. Yeah, exactly. It's not you, Bro, for is okay, like that's why it's okay. So as your as your season, the regular season started yet? Yeah, no, actually, yeah, and troys and league, it has. In the Aba League we've only we played like a Super Cup, but it doesn't really count towards that. Your stats and stuff don't count towards the regular season. You got it. Yeah, that's why I like international gets me off confused when you guys are in different leagues all the time. And...

...to what is it? So most of the time you're in two leagues at the same in the same year, because they'll play like they'll have a national league and you play only once a week for that. Yeah, and then that you can play like an international league. Can play once a week. So you have two games a week. Gotcha. Gotcha. So wow. So that's great. I mean this is crazy, all that international stuff. So what would you change anything? Yeah, Bro, just be in the NBA. I Jesus Chrice, like I've had to do what I mean, but I mean traveling all around the world. It's pretty cool. Yeah, it is, like I'm not complaining on yeah, like I'm the only thing that like I would change is that like I had to prove myself fucking way more than dudes who aren't as good as me, that are making way more money than me, like, but I had to do so much shit to get to the point that I'm at now. Like to make good money doing this shit? Yeah, sure not. I mean that's how that's how I feel too in my career. I even say it to sometimes I'm trying to get hired somewhere something I'm I say straight up. I say, instead of give me an interview, I'm like you give me a trial, like I don't want like I don't think what I'm I could tell you, so you're blue in the face. I'm good at something, but I gotta show it. Yeah, exactly, and that's why there's people exact same thing. There's people that are good at interviews, like a bullshit their way and get the job and they might not be good workers exactly, but should I feel you on that. But, like, I just the way I went about it is just like I kind of just turn my brain off, like yeah, to get through some of this shit, I just had to turn my brain off, like when I was in bulk area, like like I literally barely talked for like the eight months, Bro I was they forward, like I'm coming to practice to kill one of the Games to kill and then I'm going home, like and then all of a sudden the season was over and I'm like all right, I want to ship, I want the MVPI that my brain turned back on and I was like back to myself. It was.

That's crazy experience, man. Yeah, so what about like family and friend wise, like how's it been like trying to communicate with them when you're over seasons? So my family knows, like I don't like to talk on the phone. I like the text, like I don't like to have my phone in my hand all the time, like say, it was annoying to me. So, like they understand, like they're not going to talk to me that much, you know I'm saying. But I keep it. Obviously I keep it test but it is hard to do, I guess. How it never relationship like to. That's why I'm probably single now. Like I can't have a relationship of I'm never home and like I had have to have the girl move with me every country I go to. Like that's a tough situation of being. So it does affect like your social life. Definitely. Yeah, and then going to back to the GE league. Now NBA. So I don't know if you heard. I'm probably, I'm sure you're like the reports are they might start paying players like one hundred and twenty five thousand. So would you consider going back to play there if they did that? For sure, definitely, I would be in America. Yeah, it is. There's no way that. I wouldn't have if they were off me that, like, because they do shit like the have a a contract, be contracts, see contracts and thank you have to be in the fucking NBA to get the a contract and if you're now, you get like a sea contract, which is bullshit money. Like there's no way I'm doing that and not wasting a year of my life for fucking at all. For sure, for sure. But if I get they're like Yo, come play here for a hundred fifty. Yeah, definitely doing it. Definitely. So what's your goals for this year and like years ahead? My goal for this year is to well, I'm twenty nine now, I'm going to be thirty. So like I just want to know if I could still be the best player on the best team in the league. I'm saying like, I just want to see. I want to know where I'm at at thirty years old, if I'm still that dude. So my goal is to win the championship and be the best...

...player on the team, be the best player in the League. That's always my goal and that's hasn't changed. Got It now? Yeah, Dude. Do these international teams recognize that you've won like pretty much ever where you went? Yeah, that's why I'm getting that's why I have this opportunity now. I Gota, like so the League that I'm in now, like, if I kill I could go, I could play in the year league, use some shit like that next year, making mad money. I'm saying, yeah, I'm in a good position, and it's because I had to win fucking every country I went to and be the best player on every team, just to fuck, just to get to this point. Yeah, for sure. All right, about this question. What advice would you give to a basketball player trying to get a d one scholarship or trying to make it to be a professional? All right, so the D one scholarship, I would say you have to play a you get in the a U circuit in the summer toime get on a good team where you have a good role. Like everything is politics. So, like if you're a good team but you come off the bench, they're going to give like the starter. He's going to get the Higher Scott like school scholarships, I mean, like the Bigger d one schools are going to go up the due to start. So try to get on a good team where you're on the starting five, I'm saying, so you get the most recognition for what you're doing. Then that it just kill every and every tournament. Try to kill and you'll get up. You'll get you have opportunities to get a d one scholarship from that. Then really like being a pro. It's just a lot of dedication. Which College will teach you? College taught me how to be a pro, like just doing like shooting drills. Like growing up I never did stuff like that. I would just play like whatever. But College and teach you how to like focus on right this jump, show, take this jump, shout, make it ten times from this spot. Move here, make this move, do it ten times from that. But and then it'll be built into your body, like you'll become a pro from years and years of doing that, and then they'll...

...get you on a lifting program and then you'll learn like the manager time. So College it teaches you how to be a pro and yeah, so that's if you want. If you really want it, you're gonna have to dedicate yourself like I used to in college, like Saturday nights, I would put it like one time I put up a status I'm like, you know, if any of my friends seeing me out on a Saturday night, like call me out on me, because I don't want to be out, like I'd rather be in the gym. So Saturday nights I'll go to the gym at twelve midnight when everyone left, and I would shoot and I would just work on my game from like twelve to like one or two, and I was sleeping the gym and I would wake up on Sunday morning and lift and then I would go eat and go to my room and then go go, like go back to sleep, and that was my rootine like get to do crazy things. You just want to achieve crazy goals. Yeah, I mean I barely saw you around campus, either going to class or at the Games. Yeah, man, I was locked in. But like if you saw me freshman and sophomore year, then I was like party, like I enjoyed my first two years, but that was my plan. I'm like you. I don't want to be at school and like now enjoy this year. So my first two years I'm a just get it out my system and after that I mus lock in, and that's what I did. Yeah, definitely, definitely. All right, we're going to we're going to fun questions. are going to go from average of savage. You Ready? What's your favorite Song Right now? Likes Travis Scoy. So my favorite song is like one of the Travis Scots Songs I got. I have a lot of favorite songs. I can't really hold on. Let me look at my my playlist. You don't listen to it now. So I have a lot of favorite song I like. Actually, he'Sive in this song, but fuck up the city. You heard that, Travis Scott? Now it's not Travis S guy. Is PNB rock feature in Quevo. I've been on my I've been on my roddy rich grind now, look that up, and then I've been listening to young,...

...a little bit young the but Travis Guy's my dude. Yeah, honestly is. Anything that he's on is cool. I was like it's boys. Yeah, now he's Ye, listen to Hunch of Jack Traviscott Moon Rock with Quevo. It's kind of old modern slavery. So listen to that. Yeah, to check out the first one, you said PNB rock man fuck up the city feature and Quiver and what about? Why do you worry? Twenty five? All right, so when I was a little kid I played football. Is the first sport that ever played. I was like nine years old, and my family's like just functionally shit sometimes. So I obviously missed like the first day to select jerseys. That miss that practice. So when I went to the next day, the only Jersey that was left was twenty five, and then so I just wear at the rest of my life. I like that. And then when you're not playing basketball or training, what do you what do you like to do in your free time? You already know I like to do. Now I mean free style pribaze watch. I love to watch like science, like documentaries, like anything I can learn on youtube, like something cool like a murder mystery. I like stuff like that. I'll watch like an animal documentary. I play video games, chill with some women, obviously, for sure. Oh yeah, actually that's what I think I want to ask you about. Why don't you really like social media as just I mean, so much of my life is just on the Internet already, like it's kind of annoying, like I don't want to be like so like a you can read everything about my life on the Internet. What more to I have to I don't have to share everything about my life all the time, like it's fucking annoying. So that's why I just I just chill and...

I don't need, like I don't need that satisfacts and that people get from like putting a post up and like people liking it. Like I get enough, you know I'm saying, in my life, like what I do? I get enough of that in real life that I don't really need to got it. And last one after basketball, what do you want to do after basketball? Depends on how much money I have. I honestly I could really answer the question, but like right now I like I'm looking to buy property like condos and stuff and rent those out just make as much much as possible like off that, like while I'm sleeping. You know, I'm saying, yeah, sure, you want to still be involved in basketball. Yeah, the crazy thing. I'm not like a basketball like. I'm not like obsessed with it. You know I'm saying, like it's not really I could watch something like a basketball in the TV. I could watch like something else, like an animal documentary, like a science documentary. It's now like I'm not like stuck to basketball. I don't love it like some people are like basketball junkies. That's not me. I just love it because I'm really good at it and I can make money doing it and like, like I want, I just love playing the game like I love watching. So I don't know. Maybe maybe I'll teach, but right now it's not something that I really am interested in doing, but maybe as I get older. Yeah, for sure. Now I'd say your basketball drunk. You not like I know you're saying, not like watching and stuff, but playing and stuff. Yeah, if for sure, that's because I just want to perfect my craft, like if I'm going to do something, I'm going to give it a hundred percent. Definitely. Well, I appreciate you coming on and I usually say what the people know where. They could follow you on social media, but follow me like I'm not a camera man. Pose sometimes, and I was sometimes. I won't enjoy the show. So what's you're at? Name now underscore...

...classtagram is underscore Shane Gibson, and then facebook is shane a St Gibson. You can find me there. Steesdot all right, appreciate you coming on. Good luck the rest of the season. No, tall man. Thanks for having.

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