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This is the one hundred and seventy-third episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring artist Spottie WiFi. Paul Guarino talked with Spottie WiFi discussing his music journey, jobs in between, and how he sold out of his music NFTs instantly.
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This is the average to savage podcast with Paul Guerrino, everyone and anyone, athletes, celebs and much more. What's up everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the average savage podcast. Our special guest today Spotty Wifi. Spotty Wifi. How's it going? I'm great, Bro, glad to be here. Man, thank you for taking the time. Yeah, no, for sure, I love the love the CRYPTO punk face. Yes, Sir man, I gotta. I gotta stay on brand. Absolutely. Yeah, that's dope. So, yeah, just tell me, tell me a little bit about how you got into, uh, just being an artist and a rapper. Oh, man, you know, I started rapping, Um, like freestyling a little bit on the bus in high school, going to basketball games, at football games and stuff like that. Um, I didn't really ever start taking it too seriously until after high school. I recorded a couple of songs. Um, and what's funny is even my very first song I ever recorded was with the same main producer that I worked with today, to this very day. But Um, yeah, in about two and I'M gonna show my age here, but in like two thousands six or two thousand seven, I moved from outside of Chicago into the city of Chicago where that producer lived. His name is Stephan Clark. He's my partner, my my producer and and everything with spotty Wifi and we we started a group. He was the DJ. It was me and another Mc and, uh, that's when I started taking it more seriously and I just realized that, like, not only did I enjoy writing songs, but I also was a pretty good like I was pretty crafty in terms of being able to book shows and get us gigs and get different types of opportunities popping off, just basically by just grinding. It was like in the Myspace era, you know, sending a lot of d m s and things like that. So, yeah, from two thousand six or seven until I was doing music pretty seriously. You know, we toured, we opened for a lot of big names, but then eventually I just got worn you worn out by it, got burnt out. You know, it was hard to pay the bills with music at that time. By the time I was done, it wasn't even the myspace era anymore. It was more like the soundcloud era. Um, but eventually I kind of gave it up, got a day job, got good at my day job and did that for about eight years. Didn't write a song for eight years and then covid hit and that disrupted my job. Lost my job. I brought a Crypto punk in February and last year and then got this crazy idea to build a character around it and start making music with my crypto punk. That that's that's crazy. That's awesome and crazy, like as an entrepreneur as well.
Um, I'd say like even like I had those moments where, you know, I got I had to go get a regular job and still do my side houstle and things like that. So, like, I feel like I feel like people. Sometimes they're like embarrassed to say that, but like I think it's like pretty normal to do like you need to obviously live and stuff. So I appreciate you like saying all that stuff too. And, Um, and then, yeah, tell me, tell me, like how did you pick out the name Spotty Wif, because I think it's a great name for just like Internet, just like the space that we're in right now. Thank you. Man. So, when I bought my Crypto Punk, Um, the trait that makes my crypto punk rare is the spots on its face. Right. So there's ten thousand Crypto punks, only add two have spots. But at the time it was kind of an undervalued trait, even though it was rare. Nobody was really it wasn't like a trait that anybody really wanted. So, Um, I just saw it as like this is this is basically underpriced. You know, that's that's one of the main reasons why I bought this particular Crypto punk. Then, when I started thinking about doing something creative with my punk and giving it a name and a backstory, I just knew that the spots had to be central to that, that story and that identity, because I felt like anybody can relate to that. You know, everybody has something about them that the world discounts or the world points at it and they laugh at it or they don't appreciate it, but that's what makes us who we are, that's what makes us individuals. So first I started calling him spotty pippen Um and that, you know, people would all that, that reaction, that that that laugh or that chuckle was like every time I would say spotty pippen. And then eventually it just hit me, after a few days or weeks of thinking about it, I was like no, his stage name is spotty Wifi, like spotty pippen can be his his legal name, but spotty Wifi has to be his stage name. Yeah, that's see, when I thought of it, when I just like looked at it and always thinking about I just think of like how it's like funny how the Internet's always like going in and out and spot like good spotty. So that's like that's what I think about it. Totally. Yeah, and it's like, you know, rappers always want to be hard or talk about like they came from the struggle or whatever. So that's why I thought Spotty Wifi was funny, because it's like, you know, it's futuristic, but it's also like, you know, he's from the metaverse, but he's he's his WIFI is spotty. You know. Yeah, for sure. Now, taking it back like a step, how how did you get into N F t? He's like how did you discover them? Man, I got into cryptocurrencies for the first time in lateen Um. So I actually bought Crypto for the first time right before it crashed. So if anybody's watching this, and if anybody's watching this and you, you are on your water right now because...
...you bought some crypto and it just crashed, man, believe believe me, I totally know that feeling. Thankfully, I had a friend at that time who told me, you know, you don't lose anything until you sell. And I was way over exposed by the way I got into crypto and I put way more money in than I was prepared to lose. But I just, I just held it all and throughout the whole bear market, and it was a brutal bear market and in fact it just made me study more and like learn more about it and get more convinced and convicted that I was right. Um, and I just kept buying more, little by little, you know, when I could, I would buy more over the bear market. Um. Then, you know, finally the prices started to go up towards like, I would say, the end of Twenty nineteen. Then covid hit and everything crashed again and I end up losing my job. But then crypto rebounded pretty quickly. In and by one, I started hearing about NBA top shot on twitter, and so NBA top shot was really my gateway. That was how that was the first you know, if you want to call them n F T s. That was the first N F T S I ever bought, and then my crypto punk was the very first ethereum n f t that I ever bought, and I discovered Crypto punks through the top shot community. That's dope. Yeah, that's exactly how I got into N F T S. Two, through NBA top shot. Uh. So that's dope. Um. And then, yeah, just tell me a little bit about Um. Like one, obviously you're getting into N F T S, and then you like, what was the process of you thinking about making your own project and then bringing like music to n F T S? And I think you were one of like the first ones to do it correct. Well, so there were definitely music n f t s before me, but I did a few things that we're new you know. I was the first one to take an n F T and build a character, a musical character, around it. You know. Now you see Snoop Dogg has a character which is his board APE named Dr Bombay Timberland has a character with his board ape named UH Congo, and Universal Music Group is Licensing Board Apes and building characters around them and things like that. But nobody was doing this at that at that time when I started last year. Um, you know some of the other things I did that were new, where I kind of introduced the idea of rarity traits for an N F T album. So if you look at any of my n F T collections, I might have one song and then make twenty six remixes out of it, like I've literally done that, so that when I dropped it as an n f t collection, you might meant the original version of the song, which is very common, or you might meant a remix, which is rare. It might even be a one of one. Um. So what kind of inspired me to get started was? Well,...
I was definitely inspired by the band the guerrillas or like any artist that ever had an alter ego or a pseudonym, things like that. But really it was when I when I started using my crypto punk as my twitter Avatar and I saw that anybody with a Crypto punk profile pick you would get people following you just based off of your profile picture. You know, it doesn't matter if you know what the hell you're talking about or not. You know, they don't even need to know your real identity. They don't need to know your resume or what what your expertise is. They're gonna follow you because the Crypto punk signals to them that, Um, you know something, you know. So once I started seeing that and experiencing that, it just like triggered something in me from those years in the past to being a musician, because when you're a musician you're looking for any way to capture the attention of the audience, you know. And all of a sudden I started to think if if somebody were to take their crypto punk and do something musically with it, they'll have a built in audience, because there's thousands of people that own a Crypto punk right now that are gonna think that's interesting and they're gonna want to support that because they want crypto punks to become popular and well known, you know. So that was really the inspiration, and this was before board apes. There were no board apes yet at this time when I released my first song at Spotty Wifi Um and yeah, man, it just it proved it proved to work, basically. You know, I put out that first song, the Crypto punk community and the N F t community embraced it and I just never stopped. I kept putting on music all summer long last year and by August I had a whole album and then, you know, along the way I started to develop the concept of like we're gonna make rarity traits. You know, we're gonna sell the N F T and you'll get a vinyl record, you'll get a copyright license and you could use the music in your content. Um, we'll do some things where we have events and you have to have an n f t to to get in. You know, occasionally I'll ask my n F T holders to help me make a decision, like which songs should I put out next? Who should I try to get to feature on a song and let them vote and things like that. So we we just my producer and me. You just kind of took things that we saw working for bigger N F T projects outside of music and figured out how do we translate that for a music project? Yeah, so, how many? So, how many of those did you come out like? How many songs have you come out with? Like and it's like what was the first one? Was it just one song or was it like an album? So the first N F t drop was an album. The album had seven songs on it. When you minted the N F T, you might mint one of those seven and songs, or you might mint one of twenty four remixes.
The remixes aren't on the album, but the remixes are more rare in the collection than the songs that are on the album and each of them have their own unique artwork. So you can kind of see visually whether you got or rare or if you've got something that that was more common. And so we made two thousand total N F T S. Two thousand total N F T s. We sold them for point zero three ethereum each, and so that's sixty ethereum total and it's sold out in under sixty seconds, Um, and that sort of became the headline. You know, the crypto font rapper made sixty ethereum and sixty seconds. But really the story, if you dig deeper than the headline, the story is like we spent six months leading up to that, you know, really building relationships in the community Um and and of course focusing on the new Zick and and doing a lot of work with the smart contract developers to to get it all prepared. Yeah, no, definitely. Like like the people that don't know, like obviously now we're in a bear market, but obviously that back then we were in a bowl market and all that. It was everyone was going crazy. And then, you know, contracts. Obviously everyone wasn't, you know, uh, educated on how to make everything, and now there's like a million different types of contracts and, you know, gas one, gas efficient ones and all that. So I'm sure it was crazy just doing all that stuff, because I could only imagine just seeing like how it is now, like it's still harder, but I mean it's still hard, but so, I mean it's easier than it was like before, for sure. Yeah, finding, finding a team of developers was was one of the hardest things, Um, and I'm super grateful for for them. I worked with a team called West Coast N F t. If there weren't for them, this would have never been possible because the way I did the drop, I couldn't do that on open sea. I couldn't do that on raarable by myself. You know, I had to have everything custom yeah, so how, like, I know, like you said. So what how did did you know it was gonna sell out in one minute? No, man, I I you know, if you would have asked me a week before the drop, I really didn't know how it was going to do at all. I would say the few days leading up to the drop things started to feel a little crazy, though, like I did a song. The last song that I put out before the drop was a song with our chick, who is like a pretty controversial figure in the N F T world and Um, we did this song together. It's a fun song. I really loved the song actually, but she had a lot more followers than me at the time. She still does. And that song, like at the time that was the biggest song that we had put out and it became our biggest song like overnight. Basically, people were shocked that I did a song with our chick. Um, it's also like an R and B Song, so it was different than any of the other songs.
And then, you know, I don't remember the exact numbers, but like are the number of people in our discord? It like double or tripled like overnight. You know, Um, we were getting a lot of twitter followers that last week. Um, so in the in the last couple of days leading up to it, I could feel the momentum. I remember I actually went to my developers, but the smart contract developers, and I was like, Yo, can we increase the price because I think we underestimated the demand, you know, and they're like Nah, man, it's too late. If you want to do that, we have to delay the launch, and I was like no, I don't want to delay the launch. So Um, it was really forty eight or seventy two hours beforehand when I started to think, man, this could really sell out, but I really didn't think I didn't think it was going to be like an instant sellout. That was that was a big surprise. Yeah, no, that's awesome. Sort of like how did that like? Basically, how that like in your life? Well, I'll put it to you this way. When I launched the sale, it was in the middle of the day. I was basically on a lunch break from a job that I was freelancing at, working from home as a freelancer. So I was I was kind of like stealing time from this company that I was supposed to be working for launching it. Um, they ended up offering me a full time job. Actually I had just accepted a full time job from them and but I was still freelancing. And right after the sale, or shortly after the sale, I let them know like yeah, I'm done I'm not going to be working here anymore. You know. So. So the biggest way it changed my life was this became my full time job after that. Um, it also changed my life in that I got more recognition for my music and for my innovation in in this web three world that I ever got for anything I've ever done before. You know, I had a pigeons and planes, which is a rat blog owned by complex. They did like a six thousand word editorial on my story tracking my whole music journey going back fifteen years. That was incredible. Um, I've gone on to collaborate with you know, I've done songs with Bun b after that album. I did a song with Jim Jones after that album which is unreleased, but people know that it exists because we just performed it live in New York last week. Um, I've done songs with death row records, which snoop now owns. I've I've I've just had some crazy life experiences in the past year that I would have never ever expected. You know, been able to meet legendary M C S that I looked up to growing up and listened to, as you know, as a kid, and stuff and uh, and and just been in a position that is super, super privileged position where...
...some of these people that I've always looked up to and admired, they're now looking at me, Um, as somebody that that is a thought leader in the space and and we're learning from each other, which is incredible. Yeah, for sure. Like, Um, I wouldn't say I had the same type of like life changing experience in sixty seconds, but it's definitely impact my life a lot too, just because like the people I met in the connections I made just through like twitter and twitter spaces and that it's been like crazy. Like one of like Nikki diamonds, founder of diamonds Po, was like one of the reasons why, like I started my clothing rent originally and now like I'm, like I say, kind of friends with them now, like it's like we talked on twitter spaces and ship. It's pretty crazy, um, to think that. Yeah, so it's just like like random something, just like all the people I met, like and even that's why I was telling you before we started, like a lot of people were talking about you in spaces before I even met you. So that's I was like, yeah, gotta meet this guy. Like I keep on hearing about him, and then I kept on. I've been following you for like, probably like the last like eight months, just seeing all your tweets, so it's been dope to actually see like to come up as well too, and then that's why I said, like I'm pretty sure I'm saying to myself, you're definitely one of the one, one of the N F T, like one of the only n f t music people in the best right now, like you're, I think you're in the top or whatever, three, five, something great, and thank you, man. You know, it's it's it's an incredible time, you know, right now, because we're just, I know it sounds Corny, but we're just so early that if you, if you figure out, like if you if you think about it long enough, you can, you can figure out a way to do something that nobody has ever done before, you know, and that's just that's crazy to me that all last year, that was the thing I kept saying, was, like I just want to make I want to make a footnote in history, because these are historic times we're living in, this is historic technology, and I just, like I remember having this sense of urgency and my producer had the same sense of urgency. Right up until we dropped, we were worried somebody's gonna drop, somebody's gonna do what we're trying to do if we don't hurry, you know. And Uh, it's it's just a great feeling to do something that is innovative and then have people kind of recognize it, because a lot of times you do something or even throughout history you see people they do something innovative and it doesn't get recognized. You know, people don't always get their flowers while they're around to enjoy them, you know. So it's been a wild ride. Now I'm really grateful. Yeah, no, definitely, yeah, and I think that's that's probably the best and the worst part about web three of of how fast it moves because, like you said, like even who knows, like if you did it a week later or someone's gonna have done it already done it, like it's that quick. But I want to read the tweet that you wrote the other day. You said eighteen months ago I was unemployed. Twelve months ago I was a gimmick. Eighteen hours ago I opened up for a little Wayne Eminem and snoop at apest. Thank you to...
...all my spotties that supported me through this movement from the beginning. It was incredible to see so many of you in the crowd yesterday. Much love. So what did it mean to you to to open up for those three legends? Man, it was, it was incredible. Um, you know, snoop is actually one of those artists that I opened for years and years ago at a place called the Raven Milwaukee. Uh. But this was super special because I've become good friends with his son, champ. We've done music together. Snoop has shown me a lot of love personally, you know, he, he, he's one of these giants. I mean, I mean, who's WHO's? Everybody in the galaxy knows who snoop is. You know what I mean? You can't you could go to any continents. You go to Antarctica and there's some scientists running around and they know who, who snoop Dogg is, you know. Um. So He's the type of guy who he was inspired by what I did and he told me that and he told me that publicly and he didn't have to say that. You know, he could have just done what he's doing and and never even mentioned me, and that would have been totally fine, but it was like it was. It was really like a full circle moment, you know, uh, to to open up for him. Lil Wayne is one of my biggest influences, uh, in terms of music and and and rap and and same for my producer, you know, the Carter one through three was a whole era for us and and of course all the mix tapes and everything that. That was just like a moment in time that helped to find our style and everything. Um and Eminem two man, you know, like it's crazy. My my first song, I'm spotty, is inspired by like how Eminem with his first couple of albums, he had a song on called my name is, where he had a song called the real slim shady where he was introducing himself to the world through humor, and that's what I tried to do with our first song. So there were a lot of things that made it a really full circle moment um and that was definitely the biggest stage that I've performed on as Spotty Wifi. And to be embraced by the Board Apes. You know, I owned Board Apes. I've been a big supporter of the board apes since they launched in May have last year or since they sold out in May have last year. So man, it was it was incredible, it was humbling and the coolest part, like I said in that tweet, was looking out into the crowd and anywhere I looked in the crowd I could see friends of mine. I could see people that people that have come to my shows over the past year or eight months when there were twenty people in the room, you know, or less or fifteen people in the room, and I'm seeing these people now in a in a a bigger crowd out and on a bigger stage.
So it just felt like very much I like to think that I represented the community because I think I'm an example of what anybody can do with their intellectual property if they own an n F T and if they want to build with that intellectual property. And I think I inspire people in that way because I'm one of them, I'm part of the community and I didn't come from I didn't have a big platform, I didn't have thousands of followers and I didn't have a ton of money when I when I started. I still don't, but Um, so it was just a very like cool feeling for for all of those reasons. Yeah, no, definitely. And Yeah, like going into the I P rights, like what was that like at the beginning, because I think, uh, cryptopuncs, you didn't have them at the beginning. Correct. So that was a very controversial subject when I started. I bought my Crypto punk in February and you go labs bought the intellectual property of the Crypto punks just a few months ago. So, you know, for about a year there were a lot of question marks about whether what I was doing was, um, copyright infringement or whether it was a violation of larva labs terms and conditions. Um, I had, I believe I had a strong argument to say that I was within my rights, but it definitely was controversial and honestly, that's probably the number one reason why I'm I don't have any competition, you know what I mean? There's there's very few crypto punks doing anything remotely creative with their CRYPTO punks. There's like the punks comic team, which I'm a big supporter of because, you know, they have sixteen crypto punks that they used to make some some comic books, Um, but they weren't around when I darted, by the way, when when I put out my first song, as I'm spotty. Um, you have g money doing some cool things, partnering with Adidas, Partnering With Other Brands, uh, using his crypto punk, um, but these are very, very few and far between examples. So yeah, the Yuga labs buying that intellectual property and saying do what, do whatever you want with it is one of the greatest things that could have happened to me and and totally unexpected gift. You know, it's like the skies just opened up and this gift just fell in my lap. So I'm super grateful for that. Yeah, for sure. Like, Um, so, I don't know how much you know about me, but I'm I do sports marketing for athletes and, Um, I was getting sponsorships and one of my friends owns a Crypto punk and I was like, Yo, you wanna get on his boxing trunks and he was like no, like we we can't, we don't have the I P rights. This back in December, so I was like, I was like, Oh damn,...
...but I knew the board apes did, so I got a smaller ship through that. So it was actually like the first sport ape on in the ring, basically, essentially. So it was pretty cool to do. First of all, the first type thing. Yeah, Hey, that's super dope, man. I'd love to hear that because, yeah, I was just gonna say, by the way, we we we should have a lot to talk about then off the air too. Would love to, you know, get some knowledge from you on how how a lot of those things work. Oh Yeah, yeah, for sure, definitely. Um, what what advice would you give too? I guess, uh, a young artist trying to make it slash, I guess in the new web three N F T world. Well, normally the advice I give is things like don't be in a rush, you know, don't pull up on a Monday looking to sell something on a Friday. Come in ready to learn and listen and build relationships. The best thing you can do is come in and be patient and just try to make friends. You want to you want to meet other creators, UH, contact creators like yourself. You want to meet collectors like you and me, Um, and and, and become a collector. Become a collector before you become a web three creator, honestly, because you're gonna learn a lot by collecting. You'RE gonna learn what, what is easy about collecting, what's difficult about collecting and what are the thought processes that go on in a collector's mind? What are the motivations for a collector? You know, there's different people collect different things for different reasons. You know. Um, some people like that feeling of putting a quarter in the gunball machine and hoping you get a rare flavor. You know, that's why we did rarity traits. Some people collect because they like to get like punks, comic punks. Comic gives you a physical comic book. That helped inspire us to do the vinyl record. Some people collect because they want to get intellectual property rights and build something. That's why we give a copyright license with the music in most cases. So be a collector. You know, that's going to help you a lot. You'RE gonna learn a lot that way. Right now. I would also say, Um man, it's a tough time to try to sell N F T s. It really is a tough time. It's a bear market. Um, you know, you might have an idea today that was a million dollar idea six months ago. Now that idea maybe the best thing you could do is let people get it for free and then you know, earn royalties when they trade it or sell it on the secondary market. You know, Um, you know, you gotta be you gotta be Agile, you gotta be willing to adapt, because this is a very fast moving market. So, but the best advice I can give probably even if you don't put out an N F T for free, just whatever you're thinking to charge, charge less and however many n f t is you're thinking to sell self. Viewer.
That's the best advice. G Money gave me that advice last year when I was asking him about how I should approach this. That was the best advice I ever got. You want the people that believe in you from the beginning, you want them to feel like they got an amazing price and you want that that floor price to rise. You don't want, you don't want to charge the Max you can charge from your early supporters and then see that floor price fall, because that's that's gonna deflate the energy and suck all the air out of the room. You know that. That's probably the best advice I could get. Yeah, no, definitely. Uh, I wish I knew that advice last year because I came out with my own mini project was only like eleven collection and then, like, I didn't I only sold one in the first like, I don't know, maybe like six months, but then once I started getting into nf season actually buying them and getting into communities and stuff, that I sold out of him. So that was as I learned how to do other things and met new people and things like that. So I yeah, definitely I agree with you. Get into buying, like buy N F T S and do research first and then drop your n f t s if you're trying to. and Um, all right, you ready for some fun questions? Let's do it. All right. Who's your who's your favorite artists of all time? Nas Go all right, he's been doing a lot of innovative things too. I don't know if you've seen besides him having his own, you know, N F t platform, streaming and all that, but he coin base. I think he was an early investor and he more made more money than he did in his whole career. So that's crazy. Yes, sir, absolutely. Um. Who who's like your dream collapse song with? Is it NAS as well? Yeah, I mean he's definitely at the top, you know, right up there at the top of the list. Um, I also, you know, I'm a Midwest Kid. UH, lived in Chicago for a decade. So I'M gonna put Kanye on that list. U, Kanye NAS UM. I mean of course Jay Z is on that list. Man, I gotta put Snoop on the list for real, for Real, like I've done songs with Snoop Sun and some of the other death throw artists, but I got to get a song with uncle snoop at some point. Yeah, no, definitely. Um, what's something? What's something people don't know about you? Okay, something people don't know about me. Um, some people do know this, so I guess this is not exactly answering the question. But you know, a lot of people don't know that back in the day I did go to law school. I passed the bar in the state of Illinois. So when I talk about intellectual property and things like that, uh, these are things that I'm passionate about. So, you know, like and and and, I have a marketing background. I I really didn't enjoy being a lawyer. I was only a lawyer for like a year and then I said forget that and I started working at ad agencies. So this world of N F T S is like the innerest section of a lot of things that I'm really interested in, between...
...like, you know, music and art and Intellectual Property and marketing and building communities and stuff like that. So that's one thing that very few people probably know or realize. Another thing I'll say, you know, a lot of people don't know I'm Latino. I'm Costa Rican and and yeah, that's not something a lot of people I'm always wearing the mask if I'm online at the time, and even if you saw me, you know I'm pretty fair complexion. You wouldn't necessarily guess that at all. Yeah, sure, I mean that's the dope. You're that you're so. So you passed the bar. Does that so? Does that mean? Do you have to like renew that or like? So, can you still be a lawyer or you have to retake it? I'm not a practicing lawyer. I would never have to retake the exam, but I would have to pay like a yearly, Um, a yearly due to the what the American Bar Association or the Illinois whatever the thing is called, but I just don't even do that anymore. So my license is basically on hold and I don't I don't know because that's a crazy that's a crazy fallback. I'll just say that. Yeah, it's yeah, no, that's what it is at this point. There were times during covid when I was unemployed or or freelancing. There were times when I was like, you know what, I think I got to reinstate this license and get back and have that as a fallback right now. Um, it never quite came to that, thankfully, because man, I'm telling you, lawyers work hard for their money. Man, it's it's and it's not. To me, it's not fun work. Some lawyers have fun jobs, don't get me wrong, but yeah, I'm very grateful to be doing what I'm doing right now. Yeah, for sure. Well, I appreciate you coming on and could do let the listeners know where they could follow you at. Absolutely then check me out at spotty WIFI DOT IO. That's S P o t t i. e. Spotty WIFI DOT IO. Um on twitter, instagram, Tiktok, any platform you can think of. It's just at Spotty Wifi and uh, if you go to my website and you want to, you want to talk to me personally or anything like that, hop in my discord. The link is right on my website. I'm in my discord every day and there's a lot of like minded people that are music fans and N F T collectors in there. Um, if, if this type of conversation is interesting to you, that's a cool place to hang out and thank you, man. I appreciate the opportunity. I appreciate you sharing your time and your platform. Yeah, for sure, I appreciate it. Again,.
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