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Tim Hill | Average to Savage EP23

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This is the twenty-third episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring Kansas City Royals pitcher Tim Hill. Paul Guarino talked with Tim Hill discussing his ups and downs in his life from his dad passing away from colon cancer to quitting baseball to himself getting cancer and how he overcame all this got back into baseball and making it to the big leagues (MLB). Follow Tim Hill https://www.instagram.com/timh818 Powered by Ballsy https://ballwash.com/ Use the code PGSPORTS for 15% off

This is the average to savage podcastwith Paul Greno everyone in anyone, athletes, suets and much more. This episodeis brought to you by balls, the the makers of ball wash.Check out their website at ball washcom. Use the Promo Code PG sports forfifteen percent off. Keep the bunk off your junk ball wash. So up, everybody, on back for another episode of average of savage. got aspecial guest for me today, Kansas City royals pitcher Tim Hill. Tim,how's it going? Are you pause? Good, good, good. I'mglad I finally got you on the show and trying all season and we finallydone it after the season. Finally for sure. And could you tell alisteners just like a brief summary by yourself? Sure, I'm twenty years old.I was. I was drafted in two thousand and fourteen by the KansasCity royals. Happen to be the oldest player in that draft at twenty fouryears old. So you know, I coming up to college and my senior. Yeah, I was talking to a bunch of scouts, but a lotof them kept saying or like a wow, like the word on the street orlike what I kept seeing these people is like this is your kind oftoo old like kind of probably missed true window type of single. I mean, you know, they're usually looking the draft younger players. So anyways,like glow, the royals took a ten on me and the fourteen they pickme up in the thirty second round, so, you know, as alater pink. So that moving forward. I played my first half season andand in two thousand and fifteen I went to my first spring training. Iwas feeling a little bit off, you know, just feeling well, butI kind of attributed it till like my first time being in spring training.Wasn't really used to it or waking up he either long days. So it'sjust, you know, this is tough. I'm tired. One is is will, through like routine blood where oils, ended up finding out that my humidBloban, which is my reight, so let's cell count, yeah,was about half of what it should have been. So immediately they there weresomething wrong. So they started getting more tests. Because of like my familyhistory, my dad had calling cancer when I was seventeen. He ended uppassing away from it as well. So they gave me a callinoscope and sureenough, they found a tumor. So all of two thousand and fifteen Iwas dealing with that. It was surgery, took out, they removed half mycalling with the tumor and then proceeded with eight months of Chemo therapy alltwo thousand and fifteen and then I only had about two and a half monthsof Rehab, like recovery, or whatever you want to call it, totwo thousand and sixteen and then I played my first full season in two thousandand sixteen and then my first full season, my second full season, was intwo thousand and seventeen. Yeah, so you guys for got you allright. So let's circle back. After High School, ended up at ajunior college. Correct. Correct. So how did that? How did thatcome about? Like did you have like do you want offers coming out ofhigh school? Um, you know, I only played one year of highschool baseball. It's like dealing with the whole I played my freshman year andthen, you know, like my sophomore, sophomore, junior, senior year ofmy aunt game with my dad and he's being sick and it was justkind of a time for me. So I wasn't I wasn't really playing ballthat time. Yeah, it's kind of a it's been a long journey forme to the big leagues, to say at least. I would say,because while I was nineteen years old, that wasn't even in college. Iwent to I started school at Nineteen. That's why I was so old aswell. Yeah, yeah, all right. So how did you become a submarinepitcher? I've actually always thought I'm like that, okay, yeah,that's like the main question that everyone' that's to me. This year's like hey, when you start throwing down there and it's like, you know, I'vealways kind of thrown like that. I remember in Little League at this coachwas like hey, he's talking to my dad's like hey, listen to hethrows over him. Get the probably a lot harder. So but as II well, let's give a shot. So they were messing with me,trying to get up overhand. I kept going inside on like natural. Yeah, they s next to like a Powell...

...type of things, and I don'thit the towel so that I hit the cow every time. I was gettingfrustrated. My Dad files like hey, like, listen, he just wantsto go like that ristal home want so totally me alone. Yeah, forsure. So so back to so how did you get back into baseball andended up at a Juko? Okay, so here's a crazy story. Um, actually not. Like when I was, I guess, eighteen years old,I got into some trouble. Yeah, I was just kind of dealing witha home with my dad everything, and make a bad decision, gettingarrested and yeah, basically I got arrested, I moved down to San Diego tobe on my sister. It was just funny because that a rest endedup making you get into baseball again in a way, because my sister,when I moved down to he said go to school or get a job,and I was like okay, fine. So I got a job at Rossand I go to get hired on the first day. And so I gothired. I go to I go to like qualk in on the first dayand I guess they have gotten my background check on that day and they firedme before I even started. Yeah, so I was like all bums,I'm like glass, like a loser, like and get a job at Ross. Like how brutal. What is it? I said, you're lightnings. Atthe time, I had been playing like with one of my sister's Coworkers and like an adult league, Baseball League. Okay, just like abunch of old men, like screwing around type of thing. HMM. Iplay against this dude, terrence, one hundred and one game and he playedat Palermar, which was the Jew Coo that I ended up going to.After the game he was talking. He's like, man like, that wasreally good. He's like where do you play it and I was like,well, what do you here? He just started you you to started laughing. He was like you play college ball at all, and I was likeno, haven't. He was like, he's like please, come with meon Sunday to Palamark, meet the coach, we'll talk whatever. So I endedup going over there, meeting the coach. I threw far him andhe immediately got me signed up for classes and I started playing there. It'sawesome. So from there, what do you say that you were there forone year or two years? Actually there for one year. Yeah, Iended up not doing so well in the classroom but, like I said,after my freshman year there I got a bunch of Division One scholarship offers thatI was you know, I couldn't go to because my grades weren't good enough. So where were the offers to? I had offers to University of SanDiego, NC state, cal state Fullerton, got a couple others. Those likethe bigger ones. There was some smaller division one schools as well.So I did you always know you were like really good? I always knewI was good, better than average. I always did well. Yeah,I don't know if I ever like people would always tell me like you're goodenough to get drafted, you're good enough to get drafted by it now likemy favorite explode smoker, and they actually meant it yet. So so howdo you? How do you end up at the Naia School, Acne College? Okay, so I ended up not being eligible my I for my sophomoreyear. After I I did really well at Powamre my freshman year in likeon the field, but in the classroom, like the horrible, which put mein a really bad position. So I wasn't eligible my sophomore year andgoing up going to school in La La Mission College and I was trying toplay time. I was trying to play there. I had I got likea three point a GPA post semesters, like got turned my grades around,like it was really like trying in the classroom and yeah, like really figuresome stuff out and two weeks four season, they told me that I was aneligible so it was kind of a heartbreaker. But you know, likeI built a really good relationship with that...

...coach and he like like he wasreally happy with like how hard I had worked and he like wanted to helpme, basically. So I gotta I had as soon as I found outI was knowledgeable, I went and got a job this moving company I wasworking. I worked there for about three months and I think it was abouta month a coach cashe only called me was the coast of La Mission.He called me up and he was like Hey, man, do you wantto keep playing? And I was like sure, where? He's like itmight be somewhere weird, like Kansas, maybe I canvas, or like Oklahomaor like Missouri or somewhere in the Middle United States. Somebody ever been butyou, but you know, I did. It'll be an opportunity nonetheless. Sothat phone call I was like yeah, you know, see you guys,and long behold. He ended up coming up with they call on collegeand you know, a scholarship I couldn't really turn down. So I wentand play. I hated I hated that job that I was working at thetime. So I was like, you know what, I might as wellgive it a chance, and I did. So you went there and you wereyou were starter there. Right, yes, I was a starter thereand you went. You went all American, right, yes, my senior yearI did. So then what was happening? We're like scouts coming toyour game. So, yeah, the funny thing is I pitch really lovemy junior year, but there was no one to see it when I noscouts, there no nothing, pretty typical for back on college, like there'sno scouts coming out on a regular game. And then I went played in aCollegian Summer League at east coastal playing League, okay, which is prettycompetitive. That was really good amount of scouts at all those games. Ithink that's probably where I got like noticed. was there and then, because whenI came back to my senior year, there was plenty of scouts at allthe Games just for you. They yeah, so what was that like? was there was the pressure on for you, or you were just pitchinglike every other day? Not Really. I mean, if I talk toyou before, like I talked to probably, you know, at least fifteen differentscouts from fifteen different teams. But like after I would talk to themto always there was always like the same feeling that they would always ask likeOh, like how you come almost twenty four, like why are you soold? Like I had to have to explain to I started college late.Yea. So I didn't realizes just, like you know, it was likewhatever, I was just doing my thing and I just kind of thought,like, these guys are going to take a chance on me, but theydid. So, yeah, so this is also funny because I thought therockies would have dropped of me just from like they seemed more interested. Butso, yeah, so you so like whend, like so senior year ends, and then then what happens? Like all these scouts are you already knewabout the scouts? Did you like sign with the agent? Like how we'reyou just like going another yeah, like a couple of weeks of just Iwas talking different scouts, like you know, like I would like exchange texts withdifferent scouts or like exchange different phone calls different scouts, but I wasjust a waiting the draft, which is, you know, pretty nervecking. Yeah, for sure, and untill the third day, because I was thirtysecond round. I had to watch the first two days and then on thethird day was very special. Those cool, even even like an those. Yeah, so I mean being drafted a thirty second round, did you why? Did you think you were getting drafted earlier? Oh, no, notat all, if at all, because Gosha, most of them didn't wantto take a chance on come on, my age. Goshah Gosh. Wereyou the first one to get drafted out...

...of becone college? I want tosay yes, but I can't be. I can't be certain on that.I was actually trying to look up the stat how many players from the Naiamade the major leagues, but I couldn't find it because I think it's prettyrare. It can't be very high. I know that in the draft alittle bit, just because I know there's a lot of good players. Yeah, but I think they get discounted because they're playing at that level. Yeah, it is. It's not as good as the one. So yeah,it's sure. Back to you got drafted by the royals, and so whatwere your thoughts like when you got drafted by it. I first got drafted, you just kind of really excited. You don't really know, and theysent the Arizona and, you know, the best team. I've always beenthe best on my team, whatever. Whatever. It's like everybody is reallygood. Everybody grows hard, all right, everybody's that for reasons. So it'sjust kind of eye opening. You see much talent there actually is outthere. If sure just kind of cool it would. Beginning it can bea little discouraging. Yea. You realize like like okay, like maybe I'mnot so special dude, that here they can do the same, like,you know, the same thing, as close to it. Yeah, soI guess in the beginning, I guess a little bit scary, but thenyou just realize I ats, you go along, he's the separate yourself andtry to find a way to stand out. Yeah, for sure. And yourfirst season you did really well. You had a one point six forYarra. And then, like you're telling me before, in the fall twothousand and fifteen, you're feeling weird. You got diagnosed with the colon cancer. I read that you are seventy pounds. And then how did you how didyou come back from all that? Well, it's kind of crazy,like I think it was around November fifteen, was when I finished my last treatment. Yeah, and it was about it took me about a month,maybe six weeks, before like the the Kemo drugs all out of my system. So I wasn't eating, you know, I wasn't like sleeping little stone.I felt really bad. And then it was just weird like some kindaround January of sixteen, just like a switch one off and all of asudden like to eat all this in that sleep. And I think that really, like it really helped me out and I was eating like for to sixmeals the day and spread my body just respond to it really well. Iended up getting like seventy pounds back in two and a half months. Bythe time spring training was over, I was back in my normal weight.As a wild like what a like? Like? What did that feel like? Your body like? That's that's crazy, honestly. Like the coming up,like the the gating the weight back, was so easy, it seemed liketo because, yeah, I felt good. I Like I just thatwas easy because I felt good. The hard part would loose. The hardpart was losing. There like initial the additional losing it with the hard part, but gaining it back, but sure, super easy. For whatever reason hewould think that it would be hard to gain all that weight back.It was just a it was just a matter of my body like finally exceptlike it was finally functioning the way we're supposed to functioning. For sure,for sure. And then you. So your first year back you spent themost of the season in double a and then technically you basically only spent threeseasons in the minors and you made it to the majors this season, whichis pretty fast, even though I know people were saying like your twenty eightyear of rookie, but like you only really spent three seasons, right.Yeah, I know I am lucky. I did get through the Minor LeaguesPretty Pretty quickly. Yeah, because I technically, if you were like atwenty one or twenty two year old, so you'd actually be like twenty fiveor twenty six right now if you were on the whatever cool right quote,regular turns, which is the average. Yeah, person to believe it ontwenty six? Yeah, for sure. So, so now it's two thousandand eighteen present day. You're in spring...

...training. You get pitching seven games, seven innings, two runs are in. Like. So what was all thatlike and like, like what was the was there a point where youwere like you knew you were going to make the team or no, no, honestly, that whole year was so like our that whole spring was sostressful for me. I mean in the beginning it was just like, okay, this is awesome, this is my first league camp, so I wasjust excited to be like with the big league team and trying to like putmyself and you know, when I start pitching well, I pished well offspring. I still knew a lot of times you can't take likes. There'sno guarantees in baseball, so like you don't even try to. Like Iwas just like, you know what, I put myself in a good positionand that's all you can really like hope for. Yeah, because, Imean, regardless, my situation was going to improve from the year before.And at the end of two thousand and seventeen, they put me on theforty man roster. Okay, so regardless of whether I went to AAA orbig league, like, I was still going to be on three man roster, which, you know, I was trying to be positive and just tryingto see like, all right, no matter what, my situation is improvedthis year. So for sure. But that, as you know, youjust keep your head down and wor card and you know usually good things willhappening. Do that is how did you find out you need the twenty fiveman roster? So that was pretty incredible. It was my last, my lastouting in spring. It was cracking up. We probably had three daysleft of camp and and everybody's kind of you. They don't know, likethey haven't really released the rosters yet. But like, you know people,at this point you got a pretty good idea. So at this point Iknow it's like it's either me or somebody else, you know. So Iknow I'm close. I finished my last outing and I went one, two, three years. You know, great outing came off and meat was atthe bottom of the stairs. He says, all take great job. I needto see in my office, you know, before you leave. I'mlike guy, cool. So you know, usually that's the pro coffer. He'sgoing to option me down to tripa like it was a good run,those fyle like whatever. You know. HMM. So I go into theanswers anybody. He said it's too so like there's no way it's anything butthat. So I go up and I'm like, I think my mom wasthere, like a mom about to get option down, and she was likeyeah, you don't know that. Like yeah, we'll see, we'll giveyou a call after. She's like, okay, I would talk to MED. I come in. He's like as the door was open when I walkedin and he's like how you know, you took me take a seat andtook a seat, but how do you think you pissed this spring? AndI was like, you know, I think this pretty good, and hewas like just pretty good, and I was like yeah, I have better. He was like just pretty good, Huh, and he goes all right, what was just pretty good? He goes, you know, we'll justgo ahead and send you the trip, and I kind of like I laughed, but I was like that's that's not how you send someone down. Thatain't it? Like, come on, that can't be here. He startsexplain to me about you know, or would we go to Omaha? We'regoing to go to Omaha and then we're going to play the triple a teamand a body kept saying like we like as if I was like a partof that. Sounds like a man. He turns and there was Moose.was talking microstop, staying on the other side of the door, and hegoes a move community and he looks at him. He's like you think thisguy's you think this kids a big leaguer or whatever, and I was justlike this is like no, I don't think he's a big Leaguer, likeI know he's a big leaguer. Yeah, I thought was pretty cool, likelike I was smiling whatever, and he's get kid, you make thesquad. It's do wasn't that? I think that was on twitter or somethingor an article about it. Maybe, maybe not. A video. Trouble. Yeah, I don't have twitter. Get on twitter and yeah, Igot it. What was what was the first game? Like you get intoyour first Major League game? That was...

...undescribable. I was crazy. SoI'm in the bulletin. It's like freezing, thirty degrees up. I'm jumping,I'm like jumping up and down the whole game kind of keep warm,and at this point my cavs are like probably like about to explode. Finally, the phone rings and sure enough, it's for me. I get upthere like my I can't even feel my face and I'm just playing whatever.I go there and it's just kind of a blur. Wearing up, abur rning out was kind of a blur. The strike over the plate and I'mlike okay, we're good and he called fastball in and I get likeall pumped up, like I'm just got throwse ball as hard as I canand I end up hitting my first that that next pitch I hit the batter. So I end up hitting my first time faced. At that point Ithought I was gonna have a heart attack. I was like, oh my goodness, eating out of my fast like this isn't the way you want tostarted. Yeah, for sure. Next Guy. I got the next guyout quickly and they pulled me. So then might day was over. Aface me. I got one out. Yeah, before I even knew itwas over, I was like sitting in the dugout. I was like wow, you have anything? There you go, like everybody just comes up and youknow, good job. Well, this is fun for sure. Didyou get to keep the ball? It's always like the atmosphere is always likevery like intoxicating I guess you could say, but nothing compares to the first timeyou go out there and do it. That's adrenal and you'll probably ever feelsure recorded. Did you get to keep the ball? I did getto keep the ball. I got to keep a couple of the balls.I got my first, my first pitch, and then like the second pitch,which I hit the guy who is keeping too. So what about it? You have any other month case? Who was that? That said?They're all in a nice little case. Nice, Nice. So what didyou have? Any other moments where like, Oh my God, I'm facing whoeverX. Oh, yes, I face so I say Mike trial withthe bases loaded. Yeah, up in the ground ball that I was supposedto feel that I missed it, which was resulted in for me like everyother day for the rest of the year. Yeah, the end of the year. I guess it all worked out. Yeah, for sure, you're goingfor the Golden Globe next year. That's right. To more time,for sure. So overall, what was your experience your rookie year with theKansas City Royal? I would say it was. It was, it wasawesome, was amazing. was a great learning experience. You know, solike even personally, but also has a team. Like you know, wegot obviously we didn't have the greatest year, but I would say like towards theend, like we really started to work together and a lot of usare getting a lot better. It's some huge steps towards becoming a good teamand, like, I think we will be a good team next year andmoving forward for sure. And what was it like throwing to you're all starcatchers out for as awesome. I mean, nobody runs on you, that's forsure. He's just here. Obviously someone being able to have that kindof knowledge. You know, you one to world see taking a team tothe world series and one he's taking the teams of the world game a lot, you know, so he's done that quite a bit of experience. Thatis may be beneficial for, like, you know, especially a rookie pitching. For sure you can learn from it. And just the fact that no oneever runs on you as beautiful to get the best arm in the league. Definitely. So how about this one? Can you give us a little insighton what like the one hundred and sixty two game traveling schedules, likea lot of a lot of quick turn. We're you know, like the wholeday game or night game, day game combination, especially when it's nightgame in one city, day game in...

...the next or whatever. They wouldbe really tough. Or even if it's just a night game, night game, but it's the travels following me like a time change and get really toughfeeling. From West Coast to east coast, just like things like that can bea little bit challenging. But I would say it's not. It's notany worse than minor league travel. You know, it's better. It's betterthan travel and there might be you go to more cities. That's the onlydifference. So the travels, the travel is better, but the travel isalso more. Yeah, definitely. I mean you're not on you're not onlike the buses, like in the miners, right, right, you know,you know, you're not on a twelve hour, thirteen hour buck side, which you know that's not let's not fun. Nobody wants to do that. You are for sure, all right, you're right. Ready for some foreignquestions, surely? Yeah, so how'd you end up wearing fifty four? Did they just give it to you or you get to pick? Sothey gave me fift one in the beginning of Spain, okay, and Iwas super I was super pumped about it. I was fired up because it wasrandy Johnson's gold number. Okay, you know what? Lefty doesn't likeRandy Johnson. Yeah, so that's very excited to have fifty one our he'son the team's beginning of the year that would like his number. So helike, he's respectful about it. He was like him and he might takethat number and I was certainly not in any position to something now. Soso I got fifty four instead. Yeah, so they just gave it to you. Yeah, that was probably right. With it now, because Yeh toit a little bit every sure now it's like sentimentals. They just gaveit to you. Know, it's just like one of those things. Exactly. What about what's one of the favorite, favorite places they traveled this season forcities? My favorite places, I would say I can't say one favoriteplace, but I would say my favorite cities or Tonto, New York,Chicago and San Francisco. Dope Seattle on there too. To Seattle is prettynice. Okay, what about any favorite ballparks? Favorite ball parks up byfar to be away. Yeah, simply for the atmosphere. I mean wethink we played like they sold it out every single night, which is incredible. And what about what was your first big purchase when you made the majorleaks? Made any big purchases? I have passed all right. Any anyplans to do anything, like a house or a new car? Would liketo get it to figure out what are for sure. What about what's onyour music playlist right NOWTRYPOLRAE's been opening my as a little bit on some TravisScott. What about your top top five favorite relievers or pitchers of all time? Let me think about that. For sure, Lady Johnson, but becausehe's a man. Who any submarine guys really? I Never Watch the topguy and then like I want to throw him or whatever, just because generallythey're like different kinds of pictures. Are they tend to like throw a lotof breaking balls where I live on my fast more. Yeah, so I'venever been like a huge fan of the sub sup pures. It's funny.I guess I have to throw like a...

...couple more starters in. They're justlike playing crow show. I grew up watching him, so you know,he's always been one of my favorites watch. Definitely one of like that green kyformer royal. Yeah, and what about what are your goals for twothousand and nineteen season? Two Thousand and nineteen season, when the world series? You Go team player? And where could people find you on social media? I know, I know, you're not big on social media, butyou're getting there. No, I'm not too big on social media, butyou know Instagram, my handles with timmyn eight. Yeah. Well, Iappreciate you coming on the show and it was great to finally talk to youand you're the first MLB player on the show. Absolutely the pleasure of Paul. Thank you for having no problem. This episode was brought to you byBallsy, the meeks a ball wash. Check out their site for high qualitybelow the bill products at ballwahcom. Don't forget to use the Promo Code PGSPORTS FOR FIFTEEN PERCENT OFF.

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