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Tim Hill | Average to Savage EP23

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This is the twenty-third episode of the Average to Savage podcast featuring Kansas City Royals pitcher Tim Hill. Paul Guarino talked with Tim Hill discussing his ups and downs in his life from his dad passing away from colon cancer to quitting baseball to himself getting cancer and how he overcame all this got back into baseball and making it to the big leagues (MLB). Follow Tim Hill https://www.instagram.com/timh818 Powered by Ballsy https://ballwash.com/ Use the code PGSPORTS for 15% off

This is the average to savage podcast with Paul Greno everyone in anyone, athletes, suets and much more. This episode is brought to you by balls, the the makers of ball wash. Check out their website at ball washcom. Use the Promo Code PG sports for fifteen percent off. Keep the bunk off your junk ball wash. So up, everybody, on back for another episode of average of savage. got a special guest for me today, Kansas City royals pitcher Tim Hill. Tim, how's it going? Are you pause? Good, good, good. I'm glad I finally got you on the show and trying all season and we finally done it after the season. Finally for sure. And could you tell a listeners just like a brief summary by yourself? Sure, I'm twenty years old. I was. I was drafted in two thousand and fourteen by the Kansas City royals. Happen to be the oldest player in that draft at twenty four years old. So you know, I coming up to college and my senior. Yeah, I was talking to a bunch of scouts, but a lot of them kept saying or like a wow, like the word on the street or like what I kept seeing these people is like this is your kind of too old like kind of probably missed true window type of single. I mean, you know, they're usually looking the draft younger players. So anyways, like glow, the royals took a ten on me and the fourteen they pick me up in the thirty second round, so, you know, as a later pink. So that moving forward. I played my first half season and and in two thousand and fifteen I went to my first spring training. I was feeling a little bit off, you know, just feeling well, but I kind of attributed it till like my first time being in spring training. Wasn't really used to it or waking up he either long days. So it's just, you know, this is tough. I'm tired. One is is will, through like routine blood where oils, ended up finding out that my humid Bloban, which is my reight, so let's cell count, yeah, was about half of what it should have been. So immediately they there were something wrong. So they started getting more tests. Because of like my family history, my dad had calling cancer when I was seventeen. He ended up passing away from it as well. So they gave me a callinoscope and sure enough, they found a tumor. So all of two thousand and fifteen I was dealing with that. It was surgery, took out, they removed half my calling with the tumor and then proceeded with eight months of Chemo therapy all two thousand and fifteen and then I only had about two and a half months of Rehab, like recovery, or whatever you want to call it, to two thousand and sixteen and then I played my first full season in two thousand and sixteen and then my first full season, my second full season, was in two thousand and seventeen. Yeah, so you guys for got you all right. So let's circle back. After High School, ended up at a junior college. Correct. Correct. So how did that? How did that come about? Like did you have like do you want offers coming out of high school? Um, you know, I only played one year of high school baseball. It's like dealing with the whole I played my freshman year and then, you know, like my sophomore, sophomore, junior, senior year of my aunt game with my dad and he's being sick and it was just kind of a time for me. So I wasn't I wasn't really playing ball that time. Yeah, it's kind of a it's been a long journey for me to the big leagues, to say at least. I would say, because while I was nineteen years old, that wasn't even in college. I went to I started school at Nineteen. That's why I was so old as well. Yeah, yeah, all right. So how did you become a submarine pitcher? I've actually always thought I'm like that, okay, yeah, that's like the main question that everyone' that's to me. This year's like hey, when you start throwing down there and it's like, you know, I've always kind of thrown like that. I remember in Little League at this coach was like hey, he's talking to my dad's like hey, listen to he throws over him. Get the probably a lot harder. So but as I I well, let's give a shot. So they were messing with me, trying to get up overhand. I kept going inside on like natural. Yeah, they s next to like a Powell...

...type of things, and I don't hit the towel so that I hit the cow every time. I was getting frustrated. My Dad files like hey, like, listen, he just wants to go like that ristal home want so totally me alone. Yeah, for sure. So so back to so how did you get back into baseball and ended up at a Juko? Okay, so here's a crazy story. Um, actually not. Like when I was, I guess, eighteen years old, I got into some trouble. Yeah, I was just kind of dealing with a home with my dad everything, and make a bad decision, getting arrested and yeah, basically I got arrested, I moved down to San Diego to be on my sister. It was just funny because that a rest ended up making you get into baseball again in a way, because my sister, when I moved down to he said go to school or get a job, and I was like okay, fine. So I got a job at Ross and I go to get hired on the first day. And so I got hired. I go to I go to like qualk in on the first day and I guess they have gotten my background check on that day and they fired me before I even started. Yeah, so I was like all bums, I'm like glass, like a loser, like and get a job at Ross. Like how brutal. What is it? I said, you're lightnings. At the time, I had been playing like with one of my sister's Co workers and like an adult league, Baseball League. Okay, just like a bunch of old men, like screwing around type of thing. HMM. I play against this dude, terrence, one hundred and one game and he played at Palermar, which was the Jew Coo that I ended up going to. After the game he was talking. He's like, man like, that was really good. He's like where do you play it and I was like, well, what do you here? He just started you you to started laughing. He was like you play college ball at all, and I was like no, haven't. He was like, he's like please, come with me on Sunday to Palamark, meet the coach, we'll talk whatever. So I ended up going over there, meeting the coach. I threw far him and he immediately got me signed up for classes and I started playing there. It's awesome. So from there, what do you say that you were there for one year or two years? Actually there for one year. Yeah, I ended up not doing so well in the classroom but, like I said, after my freshman year there I got a bunch of Division One scholarship offers that I was you know, I couldn't go to because my grades weren't good enough. So where were the offers to? I had offers to University of San Diego, NC state, cal state Fullerton, got a couple others. Those like the bigger ones. There was some smaller division one schools as well. So I did you always know you were like really good? I always knew I was good, better than average. I always did well. Yeah, I don't know if I ever like people would always tell me like you're good enough to get drafted, you're good enough to get drafted by it now like my favorite explode smoker, and they actually meant it yet. So so how do you? How do you end up at the Naia School, Acne College? Okay, so I ended up not being eligible my I for my sophomore year. After I I did really well at Powamre my freshman year in like on the field, but in the classroom, like the horrible, which put me in a really bad position. So I wasn't eligible my sophomore year and going up going to school in La La Mission College and I was trying to play time. I was trying to play there. I had I got like a three point a GPA post semesters, like got turned my grades around, like it was really like trying in the classroom and yeah, like really figure some stuff out and two weeks four season, they told me that I was an eligible so it was kind of a heartbreaker. But you know, like I built a really good relationship with that...

...coach and he like like he was really happy with like how hard I had worked and he like wanted to help me, basically. So I gotta I had as soon as I found out I was knowledgeable, I went and got a job this moving company I was working. I worked there for about three months and I think it was about a month a coach cashe only called me was the coast of La Mission. He called me up and he was like Hey, man, do you want to keep playing? And I was like sure, where? He's like it might be somewhere weird, like Kansas, maybe I canvas, or like Oklahoma or like Missouri or somewhere in the Middle United States. Somebody ever been but you, but you know, I did. It'll be an opportunity nonetheless. So that phone call I was like yeah, you know, see you guys, and long behold. He ended up coming up with they call on college and you know, a scholarship I couldn't really turn down. So I went and play. I hated I hated that job that I was working at the time. So I was like, you know what, I might as well give it a chance, and I did. So you went there and you were you were starter there. Right, yes, I was a starter there and you went. You went all American, right, yes, my senior year I did. So then what was happening? We're like scouts coming to your game. So, yeah, the funny thing is I pitch really love my junior year, but there was no one to see it when I no scouts, there no nothing, pretty typical for back on college, like there's no scouts coming out on a regular game. And then I went played in a Collegian Summer League at east coastal playing League, okay, which is pretty competitive. That was really good amount of scouts at all those games. I think that's probably where I got like noticed. was there and then, because when I came back to my senior year, there was plenty of scouts at all the Games just for you. They yeah, so what was that like? was there was the pressure on for you, or you were just pitching like every other day? Not Really. I mean, if I talk to you before, like I talked to probably, you know, at least fifteen different scouts from fifteen different teams. But like after I would talk to them to always there was always like the same feeling that they would always ask like Oh, like how you come almost twenty four, like why are you so old? Like I had to have to explain to I started college late. Yea. So I didn't realizes just, like you know, it was like whatever, I was just doing my thing and I just kind of thought, like, these guys are going to take a chance on me, but they did. So, yeah, so this is also funny because I thought the rockies would have dropped of me just from like they seemed more interested. But so, yeah, so you so like whend, like so senior year ends, and then then what happens? Like all these scouts are you already knew about the scouts? Did you like sign with the agent? Like how we're you just like going another yeah, like a couple of weeks of just I was talking different scouts, like you know, like I would like exchange texts with different scouts or like exchange different phone calls different scouts, but I was just a waiting the draft, which is, you know, pretty nervecking. Yeah, for sure, and untill the third day, because I was thirty second round. I had to watch the first two days and then on the third day was very special. Those cool, even even like an those. Yeah, so I mean being drafted a thirty second round, did you why? Did you think you were getting drafted earlier? Oh, no, not at all, if at all, because Gosha, most of them didn't want to take a chance on come on, my age. Goshah Gosh. Were you the first one to get drafted out...

...of becone college? I want to say yes, but I can't be. I can't be certain on that. I was actually trying to look up the stat how many players from the Naia made the major leagues, but I couldn't find it because I think it's pretty rare. It can't be very high. I know that in the draft a little bit, just because I know there's a lot of good players. Yeah, but I think they get discounted because they're playing at that level. Yeah, it is. It's not as good as the one. So yeah, it's sure. Back to you got drafted by the royals, and so what were your thoughts like when you got drafted by it. I first got drafted, you just kind of really excited. You don't really know, and they sent the Arizona and, you know, the best team. I've always been the best on my team, whatever. Whatever. It's like everybody is really good. Everybody grows hard, all right, everybody's that for reasons. So it's just kind of eye opening. You see much talent there actually is out there. If sure just kind of cool it would. Beginning it can be a little discouraging. Yea. You realize like like okay, like maybe I'm not so special dude, that here they can do the same, like, you know, the same thing, as close to it. Yeah, so I guess in the beginning, I guess a little bit scary, but then you just realize I ats, you go along, he's the separate yourself and try to find a way to stand out. Yeah, for sure. And your first season you did really well. You had a one point six for Yarra. And then, like you're telling me before, in the fall two thousand and fifteen, you're feeling weird. You got diagnosed with the colon cancer. I read that you are seventy pounds. And then how did you how did you come back from all that? Well, it's kind of crazy, like I think it was around November fifteen, was when I finished my last treatment. Yeah, and it was about it took me about a month, maybe six weeks, before like the the Kemo drugs all out of my system. So I wasn't eating, you know, I wasn't like sleeping little stone. I felt really bad. And then it was just weird like some kind around January of sixteen, just like a switch one off and all of a sudden like to eat all this in that sleep. And I think that really, like it really helped me out and I was eating like for to six meals the day and spread my body just respond to it really well. I ended up getting like seventy pounds back in two and a half months. By the time spring training was over, I was back in my normal weight. As a wild like what a like? Like? What did that feel like? Your body like? That's that's crazy, honestly. Like the coming up, like the the gating the weight back, was so easy, it seemed like to because, yeah, I felt good. I Like I just that was easy because I felt good. The hard part would loose. The hard part was losing. There like initial the additional losing it with the hard part, but gaining it back, but sure, super easy. For whatever reason he would think that it would be hard to gain all that weight back. It was just a it was just a matter of my body like finally except like it was finally functioning the way we're supposed to functioning. For sure, for sure. And then you. So your first year back you spent the most of the season in double a and then technically you basically only spent three seasons in the minors and you made it to the majors this season, which is pretty fast, even though I know people were saying like your twenty eight year of rookie, but like you only really spent three seasons, right. Yeah, I know I am lucky. I did get through the Minor Leagues Pretty Pretty quickly. Yeah, because I technically, if you were like a twenty one or twenty two year old, so you'd actually be like twenty five or twenty six right now if you were on the whatever cool right quote, regular turns, which is the average. Yeah, person to believe it on twenty six? Yeah, for sure. So, so now it's two thousand and eighteen present day. You're in spring...

...training. You get pitching seven games, seven innings, two runs are in. Like. So what was all that like and like, like what was the was there a point where you were like you knew you were going to make the team or no, no, honestly, that whole year was so like our that whole spring was so stressful for me. I mean in the beginning it was just like, okay, this is awesome, this is my first league camp, so I was just excited to be like with the big league team and trying to like put myself and you know, when I start pitching well, I pished well off spring. I still knew a lot of times you can't take likes. There's no guarantees in baseball, so like you don't even try to. Like I was just like, you know what, I put myself in a good position and that's all you can really like hope for. Yeah, because, I mean, regardless, my situation was going to improve from the year before. And at the end of two thousand and seventeen, they put me on the forty man roster. Okay, so regardless of whether I went to AAA or big league, like, I was still going to be on three man roster, which, you know, I was trying to be positive and just trying to see like, all right, no matter what, my situation is improved this year. So for sure. But that, as you know, you just keep your head down and wor card and you know usually good things will happening. Do that is how did you find out you need the twenty five man roster? So that was pretty incredible. It was my last, my last outing in spring. It was cracking up. We probably had three days left of camp and and everybody's kind of you. They don't know, like they haven't really released the rosters yet. But like, you know people, at this point you got a pretty good idea. So at this point I know it's like it's either me or somebody else, you know. So I know I'm close. I finished my last outing and I went one, two, three years. You know, great outing came off and meat was at the bottom of the stairs. He says, all take great job. I need to see in my office, you know, before you leave. I'm like guy, cool. So you know, usually that's the pro coffer. He's going to option me down to tripa like it was a good run, those fyle like whatever. You know. HMM. So I go into the answers anybody. He said it's too so like there's no way it's anything but that. So I go up and I'm like, I think my mom was there, like a mom about to get option down, and she was like yeah, you don't know that. Like yeah, we'll see, we'll give you a call after. She's like, okay, I would talk to MED. I come in. He's like as the door was open when I walked in and he's like how you know, you took me take a seat and took a seat, but how do you think you pissed this spring? And I was like, you know, I think this pretty good, and he was like just pretty good, and I was like yeah, I have better. He was like just pretty good, Huh, and he goes all right, what was just pretty good? He goes, you know, we'll just go ahead and send you the trip, and I kind of like I laughed, but I was like that's that's not how you send someone down. That ain't it? Like, come on, that can't be here. He starts explain to me about you know, or would we go to Omaha? We're going to go to Omaha and then we're going to play the triple a team and a body kept saying like we like as if I was like a part of that. Sounds like a man. He turns and there was Moose. was talking microstop, staying on the other side of the door, and he goes a move community and he looks at him. He's like you think this guy's you think this kids a big leaguer or whatever, and I was just like this is like no, I don't think he's a big Leaguer, like I know he's a big leaguer. Yeah, I thought was pretty cool, like like I was smiling whatever, and he's get kid, you make the squad. It's do wasn't that? I think that was on twitter or something or an article about it. Maybe, maybe not. A video. Trouble. Yeah, I don't have twitter. Get on twitter and yeah, I got it. What was what was the first game? Like you get into your first Major League game? That was...

...undescribable. I was crazy. So I'm in the bulletin. It's like freezing, thirty degrees up. I'm jumping, I'm like jumping up and down the whole game kind of keep warm, and at this point my cavs are like probably like about to explode. Finally, the phone rings and sure enough, it's for me. I get up there like my I can't even feel my face and I'm just playing whatever. I go there and it's just kind of a blur. Wearing up, a bur rning out was kind of a blur. The strike over the plate and I'm like okay, we're good and he called fastball in and I get like all pumped up, like I'm just got throwse ball as hard as I can and I end up hitting my first that that next pitch I hit the batter. So I end up hitting my first time faced. At that point I thought I was gonna have a heart attack. I was like, oh my goodness, eating out of my fast like this isn't the way you want to started. Yeah, for sure. Next Guy. I got the next guy out quickly and they pulled me. So then might day was over. A face me. I got one out. Yeah, before I even knew it was over, I was like sitting in the dugout. I was like wow, you have anything? There you go, like everybody just comes up and you know, good job. Well, this is fun for sure. Did you get to keep the ball? It's always like the atmosphere is always like very like intoxicating I guess you could say, but nothing compares to the first time you go out there and do it. That's adrenal and you'll probably ever feel sure recorded. Did you get to keep the ball? I did get to keep the ball. I got to keep a couple of the balls. I got my first, my first pitch, and then like the second pitch, which I hit the guy who is keeping too. So what about it? You have any other month case? Who was that? That said? They're all in a nice little case. Nice, Nice. So what did you have? Any other moments where like, Oh my God, I'm facing whoever X. Oh, yes, I face so I say Mike trial with the bases loaded. Yeah, up in the ground ball that I was supposed to feel that I missed it, which was resulted in for me like every other day for the rest of the year. Yeah, the end of the year. I guess it all worked out. Yeah, for sure, you're going for the Golden Globe next year. That's right. To more time, for sure. So overall, what was your experience your rookie year with the Kansas City Royal? I would say it was. It was, it was awesome, was amazing. was a great learning experience. You know, so like even personally, but also has a team. Like you know, we got obviously we didn't have the greatest year, but I would say like towards the end, like we really started to work together and a lot of us are getting a lot better. It's some huge steps towards becoming a good team and, like, I think we will be a good team next year and moving forward for sure. And what was it like throwing to you're all star catchers out for as awesome. I mean, nobody runs on you, that's for sure. He's just here. Obviously someone being able to have that kind of knowledge. You know, you one to world see taking a team to the world series and one he's taking the teams of the world game a lot, you know, so he's done that quite a bit of experience. That is may be beneficial for, like, you know, especially a rookie pitching. For sure you can learn from it. And just the fact that no one ever runs on you as beautiful to get the best arm in the league. Definitely. So how about this one? Can you give us a little insight on what like the one hundred and sixty two game traveling schedules, like a lot of a lot of quick turn. We're you know, like the whole day game or night game, day game combination, especially when it's night game in one city, day game in...

...the next or whatever. They would be really tough. Or even if it's just a night game, night game, but it's the travels following me like a time change and get really tough feeling. From West Coast to east coast, just like things like that can be a little bit challenging. But I would say it's not. It's not any worse than minor league travel. You know, it's better. It's better than travel and there might be you go to more cities. That's the only difference. So the travels, the travel is better, but the travel is also more. Yeah, definitely. I mean you're not on you're not on like the buses, like in the miners, right, right, you know, you know, you're not on a twelve hour, thirteen hour buck side, which you know that's not let's not fun. Nobody wants to do that. You are for sure, all right, you're right. Ready for some foreign questions, surely? Yeah, so how'd you end up wearing fifty four? Did they just give it to you or you get to pick? So they gave me fift one in the beginning of Spain, okay, and I was super I was super pumped about it. I was fired up because it was randy Johnson's gold number. Okay, you know what? Lefty doesn't like Randy Johnson. Yeah, so that's very excited to have fifty one our he's on the team's beginning of the year that would like his number. So he like, he's respectful about it. He was like him and he might take that number and I was certainly not in any position to something now. So so I got fifty four instead. Yeah, so they just gave it to you. Yeah, that was probably right. With it now, because Yeh to it a little bit every sure now it's like sentimentals. They just gave it to you. Know, it's just like one of those things. Exactly. What about what's one of the favorite, favorite places they traveled this season for cities? My favorite places, I would say I can't say one favorite place, but I would say my favorite cities or Tonto, New York, Chicago and San Francisco. Dope Seattle on there too. To Seattle is pretty nice. Okay, what about any favorite ballparks? Favorite ball parks up by far to be away. Yeah, simply for the atmosphere. I mean we think we played like they sold it out every single night, which is incredible. And what about what was your first big purchase when you made the major leaks? Made any big purchases? I have passed all right. Any any plans to do anything, like a house or a new car? Would like to get it to figure out what are for sure. What about what's on your music playlist right NOWTRYPOLRAE's been opening my as a little bit on some Travis Scott. What about your top top five favorite relievers or pitchers of all time? Let me think about that. For sure, Lady Johnson, but because he's a man. Who any submarine guys really? I Never Watch the top guy and then like I want to throw him or whatever, just because generally they're like different kinds of pictures. Are they tend to like throw a lot of breaking balls where I live on my fast more. Yeah, so I've never been like a huge fan of the sub sup pures. It's funny. I guess I have to throw like a...

...couple more starters in. They're just like playing crow show. I grew up watching him, so you know, he's always been one of my favorites watch. Definitely one of like that green ky former royal. Yeah, and what about what are your goals for two thousand and nineteen season? Two Thousand and nineteen season, when the world series? You Go team player? And where could people find you on social media? I know, I know, you're not big on social media, but you're getting there. No, I'm not too big on social media, but you know Instagram, my handles with timmyn eight. Yeah. Well, I appreciate you coming on the show and it was great to finally talk to you and you're the first MLB player on the show. Absolutely the pleasure of Paul. Thank you for having no problem. This episode was brought to you by Ballsy, the meeks a ball wash. Check out their site for high quality below the bill products at ballwahcom. Don't forget to use the Promo Code PG SPORTS FOR FIFTEEN PERCENT OFF.

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